PipeChat Digest #3254 - Saturday, November 23, 2002
 
Minor Key French Noels
  by "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net>
Fwd: barton restore info
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
music for Christmas
  by <Gypsyleee@aol.com>
Re: music for Christmas
  by "Ronald Gibson" <gibsonronald@hotmail.com>
Young Man's Lament
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
Re: Minor Key French Noels
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
St John's Holland Road
  by "alantaylor" <alantaylor@v21mail.co.uk>
Re: a young man's lament
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: St John's Holland Road
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Minor Key French Noels
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: a young man's lament
  by <Pologaptommy@aol.com>
Re: a young man's lament
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Stolen Organ Pipe s
  by "danielwh1" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: Stolen Organ Pipe s
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Minor Key French Noels From: "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 07:32:13 -0500   Listers...   What kind of program note could I put in about such Christmas music in a minor key? I figured organists would have good advice on this:   I'm actually preparing to play the six Noels by Marcel Tournier (on harp, not organ, but still) in church, and it never occurred to me that over half of the music sounds... well, mournful comes to mind. At least introspective. Nice music, though. I don't necessarily associate minor keys with sadness, but I was practicing them and my other half groused "Those don't sound very CHRISTMAS-Y." They don't have individual titles to evoke any images. This made me think that I should put in some note of explanation.   I'd appreciate your thoughts.   Chuck Peery Cincinnati    
(back) Subject: Fwd: barton restore info From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 07:00:57 -0600   Hi Folks   This was sent to the Administration account and I am forwarding it on to the list. If anyone can help this person please reply to him directly at the address below. Since he isn't on this list he will not see any replies sent to the list.   David   >X-Originating-IP: [166.90.238.129] >From: "Cornelius de Kam" <kamcor@hotmail.com> >To: <admin@pipechat.org> >Subject: barton restore info >Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:55:42 -0500 >X-Priority: 3 >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2002 19:41:09.0583 (UTC) > FILETIME=3D[1B356DF0:01C2925F] >Sender: <admin@pipechat.org> > >I have a 1924 2 man 6 rank now 10 rank and am now trying to find how >to match the "stippled" finish in missing parts. >Does anyone know how Dan Barton did this??? >Any help greatly appreciated.... Connie dekamcor@hotmail.com     -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: music for Christmas From: <Gypsyleee@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 08:41:02 EST     --part1_120.19d943fd.2b10df6e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Does anyone have "Prelude-Berceuse" for organ and harp by Oreste Ravanello =   who would be willing to loan it to me until after 12/8? I promise to send = it back in the same condition in which I received it right after the church service on the 8th.   I have tried harder than you can possibly imagine to purchase this music = but it seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth. If anyone can = help me out I will be eternally grateful!   Phyllis   --part1_120.19d943fd.2b10df6e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D"#c0c0c0"><FONT = COLOR=3D"#800000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c0c0c0" SIZE=3D4 = FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Lucida Handwriting" LANG=3D"0">Does anyone have = "Prelude-Berceuse" for organ and harp by Oreste Ravanello who would be = willing to loan it to me until after 12/8?&nbsp; I promise to send it back = in the same condition in which I received it right after the church = service on the 8th.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> I have tried harder than you can possibly imagine to purchase this music = but it seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.&nbsp; If = anyone can help me out I will be eternally grateful!<BR> <BR> Phyllis</FONT></HTML>   --part1_120.19d943fd.2b10df6e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: music for Christmas From: "Ronald Gibson" <gibsonronald@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 14:05:38 +0000   <html><div style=3D'background-color:'><DIV> <P>Hi Phyllis,</P> <P>I'll check the music library this morning to see if they have it.</P> <P>Sincerely yours,</P> <P>Ronald D. Gibson</P> <P><A = href=3D"mailto:gibsonronald@hotmail.com">gibsonronald@hotmail.com</A></P> <P><BR><BR>&nbsp;</P></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Gypsyleee@aol.com <DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: "PipeChat" <PIPECHAT@PIPECHAT.ORG> <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: PipeChat@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: music for Christmas <DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 08:41:02 EST <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;Does anyone have "Prelude-Berceuse" for organ and harp by = Oreste Ravanello <DIV></DIV>&gt;who would be willing to loan it to me until after 12/8? I = promise to send it <DIV></DIV>&gt;back in the same condition in which I received it right = after the church <DIV></DIV>&gt;service on the 8th. <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;I have tried harder than you can possibly imagine to = purchase this music but <DIV></DIV>&gt;it seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth. If = anyone can help <DIV></DIV>&gt;me out I will be eternally grateful! <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;Phyllis <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=3Dall><hr>Help STOP SPAM with <a = href=3D"http://g.msn.com/8HMYEN/2016">the new MSN 8 </a> and get 2 months = FREE*</html>  
(back) Subject: Young Man's Lament From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 09:10:54 EST     --part1_12.2923097c.2b10e66e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Paul and others,   I was happy to see a little support for the use of an electronic organ - = at least for the practice time. Practicing the organ, for me, has been a lot =   like trying to exercise... when it's left until the end of the day, it is = so incredibly difficult to get up the motivation to do it.   While most, if not all, of us would much prefer a pipe organ, it's not practical for all of us. In my town, there are two small Mollers. They = are locked up by rather possessive organists.   In practice, the main thing, in my opinion, is the manual and pedal technique. That can be accomplished on a good electronic.   Check out the following two websites that have organs for sale: Theatreorgan For Sale Ads: http://barton.theatreorgans.com/adsearch.asp - then enter your criteria = such as "sell ads" for "pipe" or "electronic".   Another good link is the Church Organ Trader: www.keyboardtrader.com - then click on "electronic organs"   I have resigned my position as organist at our small country church. It = is likely that I will be going to a much smaller church - which doesn't even have an organ. This will be a much greater motivation, now, to get my = pipe organ put together and playing.   Good luck, Keith   --part1_12.2923097c.2b10e66e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Paul and others,<BR> <BR> I was happy to see a little support for the use of an electronic organ - = at least for the practice time.&nbsp; Practicing the organ, for me, has = been a lot like trying to exercise... when it's left until the end of the = day, it is so incredibly difficult to get up the motivation to do it.<BR> <BR> While most, if not all, of us would much prefer a pipe organ, it's not = practical for all of us.&nbsp; In my town, there are two small = Mollers.&nbsp; They are locked up by rather possessive organists.<BR> <BR> In practice, the main thing, in my opinion, is the manual and pedal = technique.&nbsp; That can be accomplished on a good electronic.<BR> <BR> Check out the following two websites that have organs for sale:<BR> Theatreorgan For Sale Ads:<BR> http://barton.theatreorgans.com/adsearch.asp&nbsp; - then enter your = criteria such as "sell ads" for "pipe" or "electronic".<BR> <BR> Another good link is the Church Organ Trader:<BR> www.keyboardtrader.com - then click on "electronic organs"<BR> <BR> I have resigned my position as organist at our small country church.&nbsp; = It is likely that I will be going to a much smaller church - which doesn't = even have an organ.&nbsp; This will be a much greater motivation, now, to = get my pipe organ put together and playing.<BR> <BR> Good luck,<BR> Keith</FONT></HTML>   --part1_12.2923097c.2b10e66e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Minor Key French Noels From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 11:31:25 EST     --part1_131.1771355f.2b11075d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear Chuck:   Are they really minor or are they modal? Some of these are very old and more or less in character with the more serious Gallic personna. If these are similar to those played on the organ, perhaps supplying english translations of the titles. How about brief readings from the bible to introduce each one? Most of these revolve around the creche scene. Tell the Christmas Story in words and music. These noels have a flavor that haunts the memory of the listener for weeks and months later.   Ron Severin   --part1_131.1771355f.2b11075d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Dear Chuck:<BR> <BR> Are they really minor or are they modal? Some of these are very<BR> old and more or less in character with the more serious Gallic<BR> personna. If these are similar to those played on the organ, <BR> perhaps supplying english translations of the titles. How about<BR> brief readings from the bible to introduce each one? Most of these<BR> revolve around the creche scene. Tell the Christmas Story in words<BR> and music. These noels have a flavor that haunts the memory of the<BR> listener for weeks and months later.<BR> <BR> Ron Severin</FONT></HTML>   --part1_131.1771355f.2b11075d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: St John's Holland Road From: "alantaylor" <alantaylor@v21mail.co.uk> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 18:09:03 -0000   John Foss mentions the organ in St John's Holland Road and indeed the wonderful building.   This church should be on a list of "churches and organs well worth a = visit" As John implies the church is stunning, if a little run down. The organ = was built by Gern, who was himself, an ex employee of Cavaille-Coll. The organ was then rebuilt by Willis 3.   Until quite recently the organ was in a very bad state. The only way to = play it was to use full organ, including the Tuba, as there were so many = missing notes. Then the church called in a quite remarkably organ building firm called BC Shepherd and Son. They, for a very modest sum, got most of the organ working. There are only a few stops on the choir manual that do not now work. (The Shepherds also built the amazing organ in the French Church in Leicester Square, London) If any lister wants an address where CDs of both organs can be purchased, drop me a line off list and I will furnish = the address. They really are worth the bother.   ST John's only has one service a week. This is a Solemn Mass which is celebrated at 6.30pm on a Sunday evening. The congregation is tiny and = they always welcome visitors. The organist is always pleased to allow fellow players to play.   Cheers,   Alan Taylor ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3242 - 11/19/02     > Recital programmes > I mentioned Bob Griffiths at St John's Holland Road as being one of the > three really memorable recitals I have been to - it was a combination of the > programme, the organ, the building and the recitalist. The programme was > Choral No 1 Franck > Choral No 3 Franck > L'Ascension Messiaen > Choral No 2 franck > It didn't look that good on paper - but in the flesh it was something else. > Changing the order of the Chorals to end with the B minor, which has a > totally dreamlike pianissimo conclusion, was a stroke of genius. > I'll try and think up my own "dream programme" - but it does require = care! > John Foss > > www.johnfoss.gr > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/featuredemail > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: a young man's lament From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 09:59:39 +1300   What you say may be perfectly correct, I have no doubt, but at my age I'm looking more for lots of nice sounds than anything else as my technique won't be getting any better... :-) Ross you don't need much more than 2 man and pedal with a decent 8' flute in each division--it actually enforces better practicing. gfc    
(back) Subject: Re: St John's Holland Road From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 10:42:02 +1300   When I visited that church in 1992, I was told it was the last church in = the greater London area to have a stone vault.   The service was on Friday evening, to enable a 90+ frail old priest crown the lifesize statue of Mary with a tiara he had been saving up for all his life - it finally cost about NZ$40,000 as I recall. The fellow was so old and frail that three men had to help him up a stepladder. When celebrating Holy Communion at that Service, the old fellow was = largely invisible as he remained seated in his wheel chair.   The music was OK, but mostly organ bombasting against a few singers in plainsong stuff. The instrument was played absurdly loudly, with chorus reeds even during the Communion.   Afterwards there was a lot of wine and food in the back of the Church. I tried to speak to many of the clergy there, but not one would even answer = my proffered hand and greeting. Why? Well, as my penfriend (who took me = there) said, 'By your grey trousers and coloured jacket they think you're an Evangelical. People here are very very very high-Church and all clergy = never wear anything but black, including the socks.'   The place was more Roman than Roman. At one point, someone declaimed how gracious it was that their Holy Father the Pope had permitted the use of = the correct books in the Church in England. In other words, here, CofE books were not used. Seven bishops were present, mostly assistant bishops, and = all wore elaborate displays of purple, lace and hideously expensive jewellery and ornament, culminating in constantly swopping between birettas and mitres.   The hymns were long and tedious, mostly in Latin.   The congregation, apart from the approx.40 clergy, numbered about 50, and most of these were Indians wearing pure white suits. The rest were elderly white folks, almost all men, like my penfriend.   To be honest, I really felt I did not belong at all, and was certainly not made to feel welcome by anyone before or after. The service itself was, to put it terribly politely, not me or my tradition. I was glad to escape, noting to myself that the building's acoustics were one thing I could give thanks for. Nothing would induce me to go back. If that's what Christ intended worship to be, then I'll plain give up.   Ross -----Original Message----- From: alantaylor <alantaylor@v21mail.co.uk> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Sunday, November 24, 2002 7:13 AM Subject: St John's Holland Road     >John Foss mentions the organ in St John's Holland Road and indeed the >wonderful building. > >This church should be on a list of "churches and organs well worth a = visit" >As John implies the church is stunning, if a little run down. The organ = was >built by Gern, who was himself, an ex employee of Cavaille-Coll. The = organ >was then rebuilt by Willis 3. > >Until quite recently the organ was in a very bad state. The only way to play >it was to use full organ, including the Tuba, as there were so many = missing >notes. Then the church called in a quite remarkably organ building firm >called BC Shepherd and Son. They, for a very modest sum, got most of the >organ working. There are only a few stops on the choir manual that do not >now work. (The Shepherds also built the amazing organ in the French = Church >in Leicester Square, London) If any lister wants an address where CDs = of >both organs can be purchased, drop me a line off list and I will furnish the >address. They really are worth the bother. > >ST John's only has one service a week. This is a Solemn Mass which is >celebrated at 6.30pm on a Sunday evening. The congregation is tiny and = they >always welcome visitors. The organist is always pleased to allow fellow >players to play. > >Cheers, > >Alan Taylor >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> >To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:02 AM >Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3242 - 11/19/02 > > >> Recital programmes >> I mentioned Bob Griffiths at St John's Holland Road as being one of the >> three really memorable recitals I have been to - it was a combination of >the >> programme, the organ, the building and the recitalist. The programme = was >> Choral No 1 Franck >> Choral No 3 Franck >> L'Ascension Messiaen >> Choral No 2 franck >> It didn't look that good on paper - but in the flesh it was something >else. >> Changing the order of the Chorals to end with the B minor, which has a >> totally dreamlike pianissimo conclusion, was a stroke of genius. >> I'll try and think up my own "dream programme" - but it does require care! >> John Foss >> >> www.johnfoss.gr >> >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. >> http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/featuredemail >> >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> >> >> > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Minor Key French Noels From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:42:24 EST     --part1_71.2957d4bd.2b115040_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Draw no attention to the "minor key aspect" - the music is what it is!   Dale G. Rider, MSM, CAGO Organist/Director of Music Ministries First Baptist Church (American) Kansas City, Missouri Volunteer Staff Organist Community of Christ Auditorium & Temple Independence, Missouri   --part1_71.2957d4bd.2b115040_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Draw no attention to the "minor key aspect" = -&nbsp; the music is what it is!<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Book Antiqua" LANG=3D"0">Dale G. Rider, = </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D1 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Book Antiqua" LANG=3D"0"><I>MSM, = CAGO<BR> </I>Organist/Director of Music Ministries<BR> First Baptist Church (American)<BR> Kansas City, Missouri<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Volunteer Staff = Organist<BR> <B><I>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Community of = Christ</B></I> Auditorium &amp; Temple<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Independence, = Missouri</FONT></HTML>   --part1_71.2957d4bd.2b115040_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: a young man's lament From: <Pologaptommy@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 17:45:05 EST     --part1_12.292a0327.2b115ef1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Here is an option that I found useful. I live over 70 miles away from the church where I am the organist, and = over 80 miles away from my school, where I am under the instruction of Dr. = Ronald Hough.   At my church, we have a beautiful pipe organ, but it is impossible for me = to get to it more than two or three times during the week. Same with the = organs at school. I found it useful to ask the LARGER churches in the area where = I live, if I could practice on the organ during the times when they are = having rehearsals in the choir room. Since rehearsals generally take place in = the evenings, it might better suite your schedule also. It seems like many of =   the smaller churches hold rehearsal in the sanctuary, and of course you cannot practice at that time. My own church has all of our rehearsals in = the Music Suite, so during that time the sanctuary and the chapel are open, = and available for practicing. I myself practice at a nearby church, on Thursday nights while their youth =   choirs are having their rehearsals in the music room. Also, many large churches have chapels, many with nice small pipe or electronic organs, so = be sure to inquire about the availability of the chapel organs also. I also read someone's posts earlier, and they said to join the AGO. There = is NOT a better idea than that! Become friends with the local organists! = Get to know them, and they will trust you. I have found that also has really helped me out also. Just my advice, Josh White   FUMC, Graham TX <A HREF=3D"www.fumcgraham.org">www.fumcgraham.org</A> organ pictures: www.geocities.com/polo_gap_tommie   --part1_12.292a0327.2b115ef1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Here is an option that I found useful.<BR> I live over 70 miles away from the church where I am the organist, and = over 80 miles away from my school, where I am under the instruction of Dr. = Ronald Hough.<BR> <BR> At my church, we have a beautiful pipe organ, but it is impossible for me = to get to it more than two or three times during the week.&nbsp; Same with = the organs at school.&nbsp; I found it useful to ask the LARGER churches = in the area where I live, if I could practice on the organ during the = times when they are having rehearsals in the choir room.&nbsp; Since = rehearsals generally take place in the evenings, it might better suite = your schedule also.&nbsp; It seems like many of the smaller churches hold = rehearsal in the sanctuary, and of course you cannot practice at that = time.&nbsp; My own church has all of our rehearsals in the Music Suite, so = during that time the sanctuary and the chapel are open, and available for = practicing.&nbsp; <BR> I myself practice at a nearby church, on Thursday nights while their youth = choirs are having their rehearsals in the music room.&nbsp; Also, many = large churches have chapels, many with nice small pipe or electronic = organs, so be sure to inquire about the availability of the chapel organs = also.<BR> I also read someone's posts earlier, and they said to join the AGO.&nbsp; = There is NOT a better idea than that!&nbsp; Become friends with the local = organists!&nbsp; Get to know them, and they will trust you.&nbsp; I have = found that also has really helped me out also.<BR> Just my advice,<BR> Josh White<BR> <BR> FUMC, Graham TX<BR> <A HREF=3D"www.fumcgraham.org">www.fumcgraham.org</A><BR> organ pictures: www.geocities.com/polo_gap_tommie</FONT></HTML>   --part1_12.292a0327.2b115ef1_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: a young man's lament From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 20:30:32 -0500   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --B_3120928233_24824731 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit   On 11/23/02 5:45 PM, "Pologaptommy@aol.com" <Pologaptommy@aol.com> wrote:   Here is an option that I found useful.   Josh: You are terrific. Excellent advice, all the way. Alan.       --B_3120928233_24824731 Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: a young man's lament</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">On 11/23/02 5:45 PM, = &quot;Pologaptommy@aol.co=3D m&quot; &lt;Pologaptommy@aol.com&gt; wrote:<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">Here is an option that I = found use=3D ful.<BR> <BR> Josh: You are terrific. &nbsp;Excellent advice, all the way. = &nbsp;Alan.<BR=3D > <BR> </FONT></FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --B_3120928233_24824731--    
(back) Subject: Stolen Organ Pipe s From: "danielwh1" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 23:09:21 -0400   Check this link out It was a news broadcast on CBC tv back in Nov 1999 To view the news clip just go to the right of the page and just under = Choose your media next to Cameron MacIntosh , click on Real Video I found thsi while searching the CBC news archives Danielwh     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.422 / Virus Database: 237 - Release Date: 20/11/2002    
(back) Subject: Re: Stolen Organ Pipe s From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 22:19:28 EST   In a message dated 11/23/02 10:10:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca writes:   << Check this link out It was a news broadcast on CBC tv back in Nov 1999 To view the news clip just go to the right of the page and just under = Choose your media next to Cameron MacIntosh , click on Real Video I found thsi while searching the CBC news archives >>   um, WHAT link? (But the subject line of the heading sounds interesting)