PipeChat Digest #3262 - Thursday, November 28, 2002
 
Finale Notepad 2003  (off topic)
  by <EchoGamba@aol.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #3261 - 11/27/02 Children's voices
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
George Guest Obituary
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
New CD and Concert (X-Posted)
  by <Devon3000@aol.com>
Fluttering pittmans
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Fluttering pittmans
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
Who controls the volume?   ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
  by "Dennis Stoia" <hcbaroque@yahoo.com>
RE: Who controls the volume?   ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net>
Re: a young man's lament
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: a young man's lament
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@optonline.net>
Re: a young man's lament (Totally Off-Topic)
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
Re: Karg-Elert
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: Last Sunday before Advent FOR SURE
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Last Sunday before Advent FOR SURE
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Finale Notepad 2003 (off topic) From: <EchoGamba@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 05:08:53 EST     --part1_198.1143b99a.2b15f3b5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear list,   I am struggling with Finale Notepad 2003.   Can anyone who uses this program please reply to me in private with instructions on how to go about creating an anacrusis. I am busy writing = out Christmas carol arrangements for my students and just cant see away around =   it. I am having to fill out the first and final bars of music with rather =   untidy looking rests.   Many thanks for your help, and apologies for this off topic request.   PA. EchoGamba@aol.com   --part1_198.1143b99a.2b15f3b5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" = FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Dear list,<BR> <BR> I am struggling with Finale Notepad 2003.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> Can anyone who uses this program please reply to me in private with = instructions on how to go about creating an anacrusis.&nbsp; I am busy = writing out Christmas carol arrangements for my students and just cant see = away around it.&nbsp; I am having to fill out the first and final bars of = music with rather untidy looking rests.<BR> <BR> Many thanks for your help, and apologies for this off topic request.<BR> <BR> PA.<BR> EchoGamba@aol.com</FONT></HTML>   --part1_198.1143b99a.2b15f3b5_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3261 - 11/27/02 Children's voices From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 12:39:05 +0200   Some years ago I shared the platform with Sir David Willcocks conducting a chidren's choir at London's Royal Albert Hall on the occasion of the bicentenary of American Independence day - 1977? Due to a last minute cancellation the American choir couldn't come. Anyway, I got a group of 40 American children together at three week's notice and we rehearsed a collection of American folk songs such as "over there", "We shall = overcome" and so on - the range was middle C to treble F, which is comfortable for most children. They sang very nicely - untrained but musical. A trained boy's choir should have a range from B below middle C to top A. = Exceptional children can sing top C - but this is not common. I trained the children = for the Royal Opera House's production of "Tavener" by Peter Maxwell Davies, = and this somewhat dissonant music calls for top A and the soloist needs to = reach top B - if my memory serves me correctly. It is not only the top notes but the "Tessitura" - i.e. how much of the music is pitched high that is important. If there is a lot of high pitched singing then you will need to practice, as for any athletic event! To get children to sing high notes effectively requires training, using exercises that bring the voice = forward. "eeee's" "aaaah's" and humming are good for high notes - also breathing = from the stomach. My singing teacher, Harvey Alan, told me that you should be able to support somebody standing on a plank on your stomach. I've never tried it and it's a bit late now - and I wouldn't recommend it for the children! John Foss www.johnfoss.gr  
(back) Subject: George Guest Obituary From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 06:36:04 -0600   There is an on-line copy of George Guest's Obituary at: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,60-492818,00.html   Happy Thanksgiving   David  
(back) Subject: New CD and Concert (X-Posted) From: <Devon3000@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 11:16:26 EST   I finally have time to tell you all about a concert I gave at my church a couple weeks ago. We advertised every way possible, and about 800 people showed up!! This was the first public presentation of the new additions = to our 80-rank Austin pipe organ, 1978/80/82/86. We just completed the = addition of a new Allen console, four manuals, which controls the 80 ranks and puts = 40 additional voices in the various divisions, as well as two new divisions, = the floating Strings, and the Solo. We went from 6 ranks of strings to 16. I = am aware a lot of discussion has gone on about this type of augmentation of pipes, and we're still having a great laugh over John Habermas's spellchecker! Yes, it was this concert (Demon Holdings here!).   At the concert, there were at least a dozen wheelchair people, a whole = group from a local nursing home. Everyone seemed pleased, and the time went by very fast. I would urge all you organists to consider at least an annual concert, build up your mailing list, and the audience might grow. We had = in the program a form for people to fill out if they would like to be = notified of future concerts. We had more than 50 new additions to our mailing = list!   I also utilized a tip from you in these chat groups, and ate two bananas a =   half hour before the performance. Didn't get tired, was calm and = collected, couldn't believe it!   At this concert, I debuted my first CD of organ music, titled "Wedding Music." Toccata From Symphony V Widor Trumpet Tune Purcell Rigaudon Campra In Thee Is Gladness Bach Es ist das heil Bach Psalm 19 Marcello Processional from "Water Music Suite" Handel Jesus, Joy of Man's Desiring Bach Lobet den Herren Walther Trumpet Tune German Air in F Handel Now Thank We All Our God Bach/Fox Be Thou With Them Bach Concerto In F Major Handel Now Thank We All Our God Karg-Elert Trumpet Tune Johnson Sheep May Safely Graze Bach Trumpet Tune Clarke Adagio Paradis Rondeau Mouret Bridal March Wagner Wedding March Mendelssohn   $10 each, $12 each by mail.   I'm already utilizing it with consultations with brides. They hear me = play "live" fragments of these pieces, then they take the CD with them to = listen to the entire pieces at their pace. I've been wanting a resource like = this for years, and decided I'd do it myself, and the result is very = successful, I believe. (It also helps make payments on my son's college tuition!)   Sorry for the commercial, but wanted to let you know that the Fox Valley = AGO is the most "happening" chapter in Illinois, and you can make things = happen also if you'll not give up. There's still an audience out there, they = just need to be aware, and organ concerts are so rare now that they're unique, = if advertised extensively. Blessings to you all in the holiday work ahead.   Devon Hollingsworth Now just the Organist at Christ Church of Oak Brook  
(back) Subject: Fluttering pittmans From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 11:08:37 -0600   Anyone know how to fix a fluttering sound on a Pilcher EP chest when stops are turned on?. The fluttering stops after you play a note. I know the pittmans are inside the chest pneumatics, and have repaired some of these in the past. I have also heard this happening on other EP chests, and heard the problem discussed briefly at the AIO Convention. Someone said, "O, I know they do that. Why would you want to change it?" Some do not appreciate the noise, however. Any ideas? Thanks! Roy    
(back) Subject: Re: Fluttering pittmans From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 11:22:36 -0600   Roy: you might check the thickness of the valve material. Sometimes if it had been skived too thinly, they would try to "curl" at the edge. I figure that's why they "flutter"...actually I've heard some that sound like free reeds.     Just a thought.   Jon Bertschinger  
(back) Subject: Who controls the volume? ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!! From: "Dennis Stoia" <hcbaroque@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 15:05:16 -0800 (PST)   Hello everyone,   While I don't write very often, due mainly to time constraints while on line, I did want to share this experience. I remember reading parts of the debate on whether or not a church organ should be connected to the church's speakers for enhanced volume. Not only did I disagree with that suggestion but boy did I infuriatinguriating experience with that issue myself. This is what happened...   Our church was invited to visit a sister church for the 2nd year anniversary of it's grand opening. As part of the invitation, our choir was invited to sing at that church. While this church is a phenomenal establishment, the church committee, which in my opinion lacks any sense of musical insight or taste, had not even considered purchasing an organ for the church, pipe or digital. However, they didHammondse a hammond keyboard. I will give them credit for purchasing a fine piano, in addition to the keyboard, but that's besides the point. Anyhow, as lead organist at my church, the visiting church, I was invited to play the organ/keyboard for the evening. To my surprise, every couple of minutes I kept noticing that I could no longer hear my own playing. So of course, I kept on pushing up the volume control. Frustratingly, I kept finding myself doing that about every 30 seconds or so. That's when i remembered the aforementioned discussion post on the church sound system. Sure enough, the goofball up in the balcony in the volume control booth thought he had the better sense of how loud the organ should be plaoverrodeconstantly overwrode my intentions of increasing the organ volume. It only took a millisecond for me to just about throw on of my shoes in his direction. I couldn't believe the audacity of this character. I tell ya, I have never been so upset while playing in a church. It drove me up the wall. Worse yet, our choir conductor who was leading the church in singing kept motioning for me, in front of the entire church, to play louder. Not only did I get made a fool of by the volume control obsessed (I won't call him anything else) but was doubly bashed by having attention drawn to me, in front of the entire congregation, for not playing loud enough.   ARGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! I'm still fuming!!!!   For all those considering coupling an organ with the church's sound system, DON'T. TRUST ME!!!!! You nearly can't make a worse decision.   Dennis Organist Chicago, IL   __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: RE: Who controls the volume? ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!! From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 17:20:44 -0600   > For all those considering coupling an organ with the church's sound > system, DON'T. TRUST ME!!!!! You nearly can't make a worse decision. > Dennis   Dennis.....what a pain that guy was!! I have to say this, but please, = it's TOTALLY tongue-in-cheek....you just made a good argument FOR a pipe organ! <HUGE GRIN>   I have a similar problem that just came up this past week, although it doesn't involve the organ, but an over-zealous praise band keyboardist/leader (not me) who insists on controlling it all from a separate mixer from the churches. Folks, if you come to my church in the next couple of weeks, wear boots and rain gear because the mess is going = to hit the rotating cooling device!! (I wasn't even THERE; I was taking a vacation day...and i spent the morning subbing at my home church's three services. GRIN)   Back to your case, Dennis...YOU should control the organ, and ONLY you. Tell the mixer guy to keep his mitts off. :-)   Jeff    
(back) Subject: Re: a young man's lament From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 19:40:35 -0600   My three last cars have been Volkswagens -- two Jettas and a Rabbit -- and = I have never had any complaints about them. I have achieved large mileages = -- well over 100K -- with all of them. Incidentally, many modern organs with slider chests use VW windshield wiper units as the stop actions.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: a young man's lament From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@optonline.net> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 20:57:07 -0500   My 1983 Chevy Celebrity is about to hit 190,000 miles and it's still going strong and runs great. If you don't believe me, ask Mack.   Marika   John L. Speller wrote:   >My three last cars have been Volkswagens -- two Jettas and a Rabbit -- = and I >have never had any complaints about them. I have achieved large mileages = -- >well over 100K -- with all of them. Incidentally, many modern organs = with >slider chests use VW windshield wiper units as the stop actions. > >John Speller > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > >   -- Jungian Type: INTJ        
(back) Subject: Re: a young man's lament (Totally Off-Topic) From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:03:47 EST   In a message dated 11/27/02 8:56:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, marika57@optonline.net writes:   << My 1983 Chevy Celebrity is about to hit 190,000 miles and it's still going strong and runs great. If you don't believe me, ask Mack. >>   I have a 1990 Plymouth Voyager minivan with 372,512 miles (as of when I = got gas this evening) on it. Original engine, but it burns as well as leaks a =   lot of oil. I'm hoping I can make it last to 400,000 miles. (Of course, = it has been across the country several times, and lots of those miles are = long drives to play in regional orchestras).   Now, back to discussing organs.....   Richard Spittel Baltimore, MD  
(back) Subject: Re: Karg-Elert From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:55:08 EST     --part1_183.12997cc8.2b16df8c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 11/26/2002 5:47:41 PM Central Standard Time, gksjd85@direcway.com writes:   > If I > recall correctly, he played it at the same pace I did - moderately. > >   That's also how we bake our turkey . . . moderately!!! :-))   Have a wonderful THANKSGIVING, Glenda.   All the best! Dale G. Rider, MSM, CAGO Organist/Director of Music Ministries First Baptist Church (American) Kansas City, Missouri Volunteer Staff Organist Community of Christ Auditorium & Temple Independence, Missouri   --part1_183.12997cc8.2b16df8c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 11/26/2002 5:47:41 PM Central = Standard Time, gksjd85@direcway.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">If I<BR> recall correctly, he played it at the same pace I did - moderately.<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> That's also how we bake our turkey . . . moderately!!!&nbsp; = :-))&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR> Have a wonderful THANKSGIVING, Glenda.<BR> <BR> All the best!<BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Book Antiqua" LANG=3D"0">Dale G. Rider, = </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D1 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Book Antiqua" LANG=3D"0"><I>MSM, = CAGO<BR> </I>Organist/Director of Music Ministries<BR> First Baptist Church (American)<BR> Kansas City, Missouri<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Volunteer Staff = Organist<BR> <B><I>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Community of = Christ</B></I> Auditorium &amp; Temple<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Independence, = Missouri</FONT></HTML>   --part1_183.12997cc8.2b16df8c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Last Sunday before Advent FOR SURE From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 22:36:59 -0400   on 11/26/02 12:25 AM, Alan Freed at acfreed0904@earthlink.net wrote:   > On 11/25/02 8:25 PM, "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> wrote: >=20 >> on 11/25/02 1:44 PM, M Fox at ophicleide16@direcway.com wrote: >>>>=20 >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> >>>=20   >> At the 8:00 a.m. service, nothing too unusual: >=20 > At that hour, who would notice?   Good point. >=20 > Wir pfugen. What really IS the etymological background of that phrase? = Is > it really as gross as I suspect? (Or do I have a dirty mind?) Or both.   For shame, mein Herr. Wir pflugen means We plow--at least according to my German dictionary. (Of course, plowing has a long history of sexual connation. Cf. Montesquieu, Persian Letters, letter 114: "Vos femmes sont vos labourages, dit encore le proph=E8te; approchez-vous donc de vos labourages", itself borrowed from the Koran II, 223: "Your women are a tilth for you to cultivate, so go to our tilth as ye will"). >=20 >> then We Gather Together again but now in a syncopated >> 4/4 rhythm instead of the original 3/4, with Over the River and Through = the >> Woods played on top of it, and later Turkey in the Straw made a brief >> appearance in the upper octave (still over We Gather Together: it works= , >> actually),=20 >=20 > I LOVE it! I hope people caught on! Such a wondrousness should not be > wasted on only a few!   I plan to send it off to a music publisher now that that I've test-driven it. It's subtle enough that some listeners might miss it. But at least it's fun for the ringers. I'm working on a Christmas piece in the same irreverent vein. > >>=20 >> The Miami University Flute Choir played all the rest of the music.... >> Folks stayed in the pews for the postlude (a first) and gave them a stan= ding >> ovation. Great day. >=20 > HOW WONDERFUL!!! I rejoice with you, brother.   Since I teach at Miami (French, not music), I have lots of faculty friends in the music department. This coming Sunday, a clarinetist will play. She and I did a CD called Arias for the Soul. You can read about it at http://www.fna.muohio.edu/musweb/Recordings/gingrasariareview.html >>=20 >>=20 > Well, you're a very strange person. Nothing much we an do about THAT!   Sorry.... >>=20 > >=20 > Three cheers...   Thanks.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: Last Sunday before Advent FOR SURE From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 23:05:29 -0500   On 11/27/02 9:36 PM, "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> wrote:   > Cf. Montesquieu, Persian Letters, letter 114: "Vos femmes sont > vos labourages, dit encore le proph=E8te; approchez-vous donc de vos > labourages", itself borrowed from the Koran II, 223: "Your women are a > tilth for you to cultivate, so go to our tilth as ye will").   Oh, yes! How could it have slip't my mind???   (I just found another reader of dirty books!)   More later; too late tonight.   Tr=E8s best,   Alan