PipeChat Digest #3263 - Friday, November 29, 2002
 
Re: Who controls the volume?   ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Greetings
  by "mack02445" <mack02445@mindspring.com>
RE: Karg-Elert
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
RE: Last Sunday before Advent FOR SURE
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Happy Thanksgiving Holidays
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Thanksgiving greeting
  by "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonathan@jonathanbhall.com>
Re: Greetings
  by "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com>
Re: Greetings
  by "Mac Hayes" <mach37@mindspring.com>
Re: Greetings
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Last Sunday before Advent FOR SURE
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Last Sunday before Advent FOR SURE
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Last Sunday before Advent FOR SURE
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Greetings
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
Re: Aeolian-Skinner King of Instruments (was Greetings)
  by "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com>
Re: Aeolian-Skinner King of Instruments (was Greetings)
  by "Stan Yoder" <vze2myh5@verizon.net>
Holy Trinity Ev. Lutheran, NYC.. war Aeolian-Skinner King of Instruments
  by "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com>
Re: Who controls the volume? ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
  by "D. Keith Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Who controls the volume? ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!! From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 10:35:01 EST   Now is the time for us to seriously evaluate how an entire church community gets to the point at which this type of thing is seen as = "perfectly okay." No real liturgical accompanimental instrument, with an ignorant = nerd at the P.A. potentiometer, and nobody noticing that the visiting musician cannot make music. "Make a noise, any noise, unto the Lord, all ye bands." While it is true that in recent years, America has chosen to pursue, embrace, and celebrate anti-intellectualism, it is now invading so many aspects of life that although people are bitterly comlaining, we haven't figured out how, or haven't bothered to, EDUCATE these people. It takes a GREAT deal of work to get things done; some musicians have stuck it out for a decade or more before they got a pipe organ, or a = budget for new choir music, or a separate fund to hire instrumental soloists. But =   education is the key, and always has been. We cannot do anything about willful ignorance, and we cannot do anything about those who say, "I am perfectly happy with my 1968 Baldwin FunMachine with 'Rithimm,' so screw = you music snobs." They are not really happy, they just don't want to make = waves, which is part of the human condition. Liturgical music programs are to organists what candy is to a child = with a sweet tooth: Nobody knows you want it, let alone gives it to you, = unless you ask for it.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Greetings From: "mack02445" <mack02445@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 10:33:47 -0500   To all the Listers, in the US anyway ;-) HAPPY THANKSGIVING!   Its a pleasure to be part of these august groups. Now, food for thought, anyone have a complete list of the Aeolian=3DSkinner recordings? =   Would love to have one if you do. Also looking for a photo of the Symphony Hall, Boston Console.   Cheers, Mack    
(back) Subject: RE: Karg-Elert From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:35:30 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0003_01C296C1.8448E720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Thanks, Dale, and a wonderful Thanksgiving to you and all the listers too. The turkey's life is saved until Christmas here - I would tell of the slightly unusual Thanksgiving meal we are having today for three (the sibling and collateral relatives are at the in-laws today), but because there is no organ (at least pipe or electronic) in my house it is terribly off-topic.     Now thank we all our God.     Glenda Sutton   gksjd85@direcway.com         ------=3D_NextPart_000_0003_01C296C1.8448E720 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <html>   <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dus-ascii">     <meta name=3D3DGenerator content=3D3D"Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)">   <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Footlight MT Light"; panose-1:2 4 6 2 6 3 10 2 3 4;} @font-face {font-family:"Colonna MT"; panose-1:4 2 8 5 6 2 2 3 2 3;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} p.MsoEnvelopeReturn, li.MsoEnvelopeReturn, div.MsoEnvelopeReturn {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Footlight MT Light";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} p.MsoAutoSig, li.MsoAutoSig, div.MsoAutoSig {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle18 {font-family:Arial; color:blue; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none none;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style>   </head>   <body lang=3D3DEN-US link=3D3Dblue vlink=3D3Dpurple>   <div class=3D3DSection1>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue face=3D3DArial =3D FAMILY=3D3DSANSSERIF><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks, Dale, = =3D and a wonderful Thanksgiving to you and all the listers too.&nbsp; The =3D turkey&#8217;s life is saved until Christmas here - I would tell of the slightly =3D unusual Thanksgiving meal we are having today for three (the sibling and collateral relatives = =3D are at the in-laws today), but because there is no organ (at least pipe or =3D electronic) in my house it is terribly off-topic.</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Now thank we all our =3D God.</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>   <div>   <p class=3D3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue face=3D3D"Colonna = =3D MT"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Colonna =3D MT";color:blue'>Glenda</span></font><font color=3D3Dblue face=3D3D"Colonna MT"><span style=3D3D'font-family:"Colonna = =3D MT";color:blue'> Sutton</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue face=3D3D"Colonna = =3D MT"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Colonna =3D MT";color:blue'>gksjd85@direcway.com</span></font></p>   </div>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal style=3D3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3D3 =3D face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>   </div>   </body>   </html>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0003_01C296C1.8448E720--      
(back) Subject: RE: Last Sunday before Advent FOR SURE From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:44:52 -0600   And what, pray tell, is a "tilth"? I don't like the sound of that at all. No chocolate cake for you.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     On 11/27/02 9:36 PM, "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> wrote:   > Cf. Montesquieu, Persian Letters, letter 114: "Vos femmes sont > vos labourages, dit encore le proph=E8te; approchez-vous donc de vos > labourages", itself borrowed from the Koran II, 223: "Your women are a > tilth for you to cultivate, so go to our tilth as ye will").          
(back) Subject: Happy Thanksgiving Holidays From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 10:51:09 -0500   From the Cold White Land of the Frozen North   To all my friends on both the Organ Lists who are below the Canadian = border.   HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO YOU ALL   Bob Conway   Resident of the Land of Sunshine and Snow.    
(back) Subject: Thanksgiving greeting From: "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonathan@jonathanbhall.com> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 12:46:57 -0800 (PST)   Happy Thanksgiving to all and sundry, here and abroad. Four of us are having a wonderful time as I write in Amityville, Long Island, repeating our culinary outrages of last November. The homemade mince and apple pies are nearly ready to eat....   And this is the first Thanksgiving in many years where I haven't attended or played at a church service. It feels a bit strange, but also quite restful. No Karg-Elert this time around, and I can leave "Kremser" and "St. George's Windsor" to other hands!   Wherever we live, whoever we are, we always have much to say thanks for. I am thankful every day--despite the sometimes spectacular nonsense that lies in my path--for being an organist and a sacred musician. That ain't the Irish Mist in me speaking, either.   Best,   Jonathan on Long Island  
(back) Subject: Re: Greetings From: "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 12:58:52 -0800   Now, food for > thought, anyone have a complete list of the Aeolian=3DSkinner = recordings? > Would love to have one if you do.>   Well, I can come close:   Volumes:   1. The American Classic Organ, G. Donald Harrison, narrator 2. Organ Literature Bach to Langlais (George Faxon, Roy Perry, & the = "staff organist." 3. Robert Owen at Christ Church, Bronxville 4. Edgar Hillar at St. Mark's, Mt. Kisco NY 5. Richard Purvis at Grace Cathedral, San Francisco (identified as "staff organist." 6. Alec Wyton at the Cathedral of St. John the Divine, NY 7. Marilyn Mason at Groton School 8. Norman Coke-Jephcott at St. John the Divine 9. Ruth Barrett Phelps at the Mother Church, Boston 10. Music of the Church: Roy Perry at 1st Presbyterian Church, Kilgore TX (with choirs) 11. Henry Hokans at All Saints, Worcester MA 12. Pierre Cochereau at Symphony Hall, Boston 13. Organ Music and Vocal Solos: Ruth Barrett Phelps at the Mother church with Frederick Jagel, tenor 14. ? 15. Catharine Crozier at Reorganized Church of Latter Day Saints, Independence MO - Program I 16. Catharine Crozier at Reorganized Church of Latter Day Saints, Independence MO - Program II 17. Phillip Steinhaus at All Saints Church, Pontiac MI 18. Two Great Organs: Albert Russell at Philharmonic Hall NY & Asylum Hill Congregational, Hartford CT 19. Albert Russell: Durufl=E9 Requiem etc. (don't have -- don't know which instrument) 20. John Weaver at Holy Trinity Lutheran, NY 21. Bob Whitley at St. Luke's, San Francisco 22. Maurice & Marie-Madeleine Durufl=E9 at Christ Church Cathedral, St. = Louis MO 23. Ronald Arnatt at Christ Church Cathedral, St. Louis MO 24. Paul van Veelen (don't have -- don't know which instrument) 25. Clyde Holloway at National Presbyterian Church, Washington DC 26. ? 27. Robert Anderson at Zumbro Lutheran, Rochester MN (2-LP)   (There seem to be two further Robert Anderson recordings at Zumbro -- not sure if these are 28 and 29?   Happy Thanksgiving!   Michael Fox    
(back) Subject: Re: Greetings From: "Mac Hayes" <mach37@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:53:03 -0800   M Fox wrote: > ... anyone have a complete list of the Aeolian=3DSkinner recordings? > Would love to have one if you do.> > ... > 24. Paul van Veelen (don't have -- don't know which instrument)     AS 324 - Paul Van Veelen- "playing the Sipe & Yarbrough Mechanical Action Organ at St. Stephen United Methodist Church in Mesquite, Texas." 13 ranks plus a Mixture III-IV. The organ dates from 1963; the recording was taped in 1969.   Manual I 8 Holzgedackt 4 Spillflote 2 Principal Sesquialtera II Cymbel 11 Tremulant   Manual II 8 Rohrflote 4 Prestant 2 Flachflote Mixture III-IV   Pedal 16 Subbass 8 Prestant 4 Nachthorn 16 Posaune     Mac Hayes Rosamond, CA  
(back) Subject: Re: Greetings From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 19:55:08 -0500   On 11/28/02 3:58 PM, "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com> wrote:   > 20. John Weaver at Holy Trinity Lutheran, NY   Michael Fox: Is that the one in Buffalo?   Alan (what a LIST!)    
(back) Subject: Re: Last Sunday before Advent FOR SURE From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 20:28:04 -0400   on 11/28/02 11:44 AM, Glenda at gksjd85@direcway.com wrote:   > And what, pray tell, is a "tilth"? I don't like the sound of that at > all. No chocolate cake for you. > > Glenda Sutton > gksjd85@direcway.com   The only word in the English language to rhyme with "filth"....     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: Last Sunday before Advent FOR SURE From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 19:40:19 -0600   Tilth is not a word I was familiar with either, but upon looking it up in the Oxford English Dictionary I find that it means the same thing as tillage -- i.e., what you get by working or tilling the ground.   John Speller   Randolph Runyon wrote: > > on 11/28/02 11:44 AM, Glenda at gksjd85@direcway.com wrote: > > > And what, pray tell, is a "tilth"? I don't like the sound of that at > > all. No chocolate cake for you. > > > > Glenda Sutton > > gksjd85@direcway.com > > The only word in the English language to rhyme with "filth"....  
(back) Subject: Re: Last Sunday before Advent FOR SURE From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 20:46:18 -0400   To be serious for a moment, in the Montesquieu passage (as "labourage") it means "plowland". That is, not what you get by tilling the ground but rather the ground you till.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu         on 11/28/02 9:40 PM, John L. Speller at jlspeller@mindspring.com wrote:   > Tilth is not a word I was familiar with either, but upon > looking it up in the Oxford English Dictionary I find that > it means the same thing as tillage -- i.e., what you get by > working or tilling the ground. > > John Speller > > Randolph Runyon wrote: >> >> on 11/28/02 11:44 AM, Glenda at gksjd85@direcway.com wrote: >> >>> And what, pray tell, is a "tilth"? I don't like the sound of that at >>> all. No chocolate cake for you. >>> >>> Glenda Sutton >>> gksjd85@direcway.com >> >> The only word in the English language to rhyme with "filth".... > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Greetings From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:44:55 EST     --part1_a9.326ff821.2b184ac7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Alan, I hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving, and I promise not to throw = anymore snow balls. Leeeeeeee   --part1_a9.326ff821.2b184ac7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Alan, I hope you had a Happy Thanksgiving, and I = promise not to throw anymore snow balls.&nbsp; Leeeeeeee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a9.326ff821.2b184ac7_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Aeolian-Skinner King of Instruments (was Greetings) From: "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 20:56:08 -0800     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>   > > 20. John Weaver at Holy Trinity Lutheran, NY Is that the one in Buffalo? > > Alan (what a LIST!)   A qualified no. The record says: Lutheran Church of the Holy Trinity, New York City; from the stoplist, a 3/45 or so from the later years (Great: 8' Principal, 8' Bourdon, 4' Octave, 4' Zauberfl=F6te, 2' Fifteenth, = Fourniture IV -- and the Choir Trompette Harmonique playable at 8' and 4', and = Chimes!)   But I can't find it in the Skinner/Aeolian-Skinner opus list, although it = is after turkey dinner, the tryptophanes have kicked in, and my research = skills are likely impaired.   By the way, Volume 24 -- the 2/17 Sipe with two 8' manual stops, both stopped flutes, seems a little squeaky for a place in the "King of Instruments" series ...   MAF      
(back) Subject: Re: Aeolian-Skinner King of Instruments (was Greetings) From: "Stan Yoder" <vze2myh5@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2002 00:10:55 -0500   Regarding Holy Trinity Lutheran, Central Park West:   EMS op. 113 of 1903 "last Skinner & Cole contract", replaced by   op.785 of 1929   785A tonal 'replacements', 1951   785B new console, 1962   replaced 1976 by a Robert Turner, III/65.   So saith Kinzey/Lawn.   Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Holy Trinity Ev. Lutheran, NYC.. war Aeolian-Skinner King of Instruments From: "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:05:20 -0600   To find the history of this organ, start with Opus # 113..... follow on to #785. This is one of the EM/Aeolian-Skinners that has a long history.   Happy Thanksgiving,   Sand Lawn    
(back) Subject: Re: Who controls the volume? ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!! From: "D. Keith Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:11:30 -0800 (PST)   To all who have commented about the volume tampering, I must admit that I don't have nearly as much patience as most of you about dealing with such nonsense.   That sound "engineer" would turn the volume down on me one time. I would turn the organ off and walk out of the church. There are too many churches looking for organists to put up with crap like that.   D. Keith Morgan   __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com