PipeChat Digest #3154 - Tuesday, October 1, 2002
 
RE: Questions about Mulet
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
Re: Questions about Mulet
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Weddings and Funerals
  by <patmai@juno.com>
FisK, Opus 119 - First Presbyterian - Monday
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Nixon & Fudd
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Weddings and Funerals
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: what did you play today?
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Fisk Opus 101- Southern Methodist Univ.
  by "Jan S. Van Der Stad" <dorian@nac.net>
Adams and Jefferson
  by "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com>
Re: Fisk Opus 101- Southern Methodist Univ.
  by "D. Keith Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com>
Re: Questions about Mulet
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Weddings and Funerals
  by "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
Re: Weddings and Funerals
  by "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
Re: Weddings and Funerals
  by "Roger Brown" <roger2@rogerbrown.no-ip.org>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Questions about Mulet From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 22:02:44 -0400   Glenda, you must be a member of the Anglican list as well, because I = posted an inquiry there just today that relates to your second question. Or = great minds think alike :-)   I believe it was the program notes for Thomas Murray's recording of the Esquisses Byzantine in Doylestown that stated that the toccata celebrates the building's survival of the German artillery assault on Paris in World War I (we're talking about the Basilique du Sacre-Coeur in Paris, of = course, where his father had been choirmaster). I have no reason to doubt this. However, I am also struck by his use of this verse in a piece about a building associated with the dogma of Papal Infallibility, as seems to be the case.   Must read a little more about the Franco-Prussian war to flesh out what I have gathered only today. Bismarck, in his efforts to create a German nation-state, had a big problem with ultramontanism, such that = anti-Catholic laws were passed and a reaction called the Kulturkampf took place ca. 1860-1890. The Franco-Prussian war was taking place around the time of Vatican I, at which this dogma was emitted, and in 1870 (the year the council ended) the French army withdrew its protection of the Vatican-- = for what reason I haven't yet checked, but it was probably because the Germans were threatening or perhaps actually beat them in battle. The French = church by and large was of the Gallican persuasion, relatively independent from Rome. Nevertheless, several prominent Frenchmen considered the failure to guard the pope to be a calamity and a symptom of a national spiritual malaise. They proposed building the Basilica as an act of repentance and reparation. Contributions came in from many around the country, but = perhaps even then such a sentiment represented a minority view. A French = historian whom I used to know tells me that most Parisians do not like this building because of the ultramontane spirit that its existence symbolizes.   Now, if Mulet, writing a Toccata celebrating the building's steadfast resistance to foes, subtitled it with a Bible verse always used to defend the papacy, and the basilica has the history and reputation that it does, = I think the conclusion is nearly inescapable that he had a theological point to make, as well-- or at least was commenting on this state of affairs as part of the building's situation.   Any enlightening tidbits of information about this little theory of mine would be appreciated.      
(back) Subject: Re: Questions about Mulet From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 22:35:39 -0400     > (2) What was the significance of el nombre "Tu es petra" to Mulet? In > other words, why did he name it thusly? > > Thank thee. > > Glenda Sutton > gksjd85@direcway.com   Because it rocks, Glenda! Paul Emmons' analysis is most insightful, by the way.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals From: <patmai@juno.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 22:48:45 -0400   OK, John and Pipechatters,   Earlier tonight I wrote: > > John Adams and musician Thomas Jefferson both died on the > > 4th of July. I do not know about Mr. Hamilton.   Later John Speller said:   > Far be it from me -- an Englishman -- to point this out, but > Alexander Hamilton was killed in a duel with Aaron Burr.   <sigh> What I _should_ have said was that I did not know the _date of death_ for Alexander Hamilton.. Yes, I knew of the duel with Aaron Burr, ancestor of one of my best friends in high school. Soprano Carol Burr sang solos with the choir at Teaneck High School, (Teaneck, NJ), which I accompanied on the grand piano or the Hammond in the THS auditorium. To get back on topic, my organ study during high school was primarily on a 2-manual Estey at the Presbyterian Church.   Regards to all,   Pat Maimone, who played for three funerals/memorial services a week ago.. patmai@juno.com   ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.  
(back) Subject: FisK, Opus 119 - First Presbyterian - Monday From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 23:30:55 EDT     --part1_189.ef77672.2aca70ef_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Tonight's recital was heard from the FIRST ROW of the nave. Yeesh! how = do people sit there weekly! It's claustrophobic! But....   The organ took on a deliberate presence. Articulation was clear, pipe speech was more observable and there was increased bass response. = Still, the organ was not too loud. There was a very exciting fullness from this vantage point. The organ gets better with each hearing. From the = front pew I felt that I could almost feel the "breath" of the organ.   At intermission I moved to about 2/3 down the nave, westward (ho!). = There was more cohesion and the organ really pulled together at this point. Interestingly, divisional locations were more evident at this point.   On thing in particular that stood out tonight was the broad scaling of the =   trebles. Nothing thins out as the scale ascends. The flutes are = beautifully round throughout. The Swell harmonic flute chorus is exquisite. The principals also seemed more present and velvety on the nave level.   I was also more aware tonight of the effect of the flexible wind and the = Fisk temperament. The key of "F" -- of course!! -- is the really good one, so =   the Toccata and Fugue in F was a keeper. The chordal episodes were = really exciting, and they were heightened by the increasing tension of key modulations. The flexible wind and temperament also played a major role = in the Bolcom "What a Friend." It really seemed to come to life. As = well, the temperament made the Franck Fantasie really sparkle and was quite = telling in the Rheinberger.   Strangely enough, I enjoyed all of the chorale preludes. Dr Craighead really made wonderful use of the tonal palette of the organ. The only = stop I found wanting was the 32 Bourdon.... it just didn't seem to do much. = I'd personally rather have a 32 reed.   In the romantic pieces it almost seemed that the entire organ was under expression. The swell box is amazingly effective, and being mechanical = is, of course, infinite.   The strings are shimmering and would be perfectly at home in the = Wannamaker organ. it's so wonderful to hear this kind of sound again, especially as part of a rich plenum such as in this organ.   From a purely mechanical standpoint, the combination action is very quiet, =   and, of course, contains "oodles" of levels. Sitting in the first pew I = was aware of a little bit of key action noise, but it was not offensive.   I would really like to hear some of the other new Fisks that have been so badly reviewed. It would be nice to check them all using the same = criteria and ears! But, Opus 119 is definitely a standard for measurement.     Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_189.ef77672.2aca70ef_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Tonight's recital was = heard from the FIRST ROW of the nave. &nbsp;&nbsp;Yeesh! &nbsp;&nbsp;how = do people sit there weekly! &nbsp;It's claustrophobic! &nbsp;&nbsp;But.... <BR> <BR>The organ took on a deliberate presence. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Articulation was clear, pipe speech was more observable = and there was increased bass response. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Still, the organ = was not too loud. &nbsp;There was a very exciting fullness from this = vantage point. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The organ gets better with each hearing. = &nbsp;&nbsp;From the front pew I felt that I could almost feel the = "breath" of the organ. <BR> <BR>At intermission I moved to about 2/3 down the nave, westward (ho!). = &nbsp;&nbsp;There was more cohesion and the organ really pulled together = at this point. &nbsp;&nbsp;Interestingly, divisional locations were more = evident at this point. &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>On thing in particular that stood out tonight was the broad scaling of the trebles. &nbsp;Nothing thins out as the scale ascends. &nbsp;The = flutes are beautifully round throughout. &nbsp;The Swell harmonic flute = chorus is exquisite. &nbsp;&nbsp;The principals also seemed more present = and velvety on the nave level. <BR> <BR>I was also more aware tonight of the effect of the flexible wind and = the Fisk temperament. &nbsp;&nbsp;The key of "F" -- of course!! -- is the = really good one, so the Toccata and Fugue in F was a keeper. = &nbsp;&nbsp;The chordal episodes were really exciting, and they were = heightened by the increasing tension of key modulations. &nbsp;&nbsp;The = flexible wind and temperament also played a major role in the Bolcom "What = a Friend." &nbsp;&nbsp;It really seemed to come to life. = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;As well, the temperament made the Franck Fantasie = really sparkle and was quite telling in the Rheinberger. <BR> <BR>Strangely enough, I enjoyed all of the chorale preludes. = &nbsp;&nbsp;Dr Craighead really made wonderful use of the tonal palette of = the organ. &nbsp;&nbsp;The only stop I found wanting was the 32 = Bourdon.... it just didn't seem to do much. &nbsp;I'd personally rather = have a 32 reed. <BR> <BR>In the romantic pieces it almost seemed that the entire organ was = under expression. &nbsp;&nbsp;The swell box is amazingly effective, and = being mechanical is, of course, infinite. <BR> <BR>The strings are shimmering and would be perfectly at home in the = Wannamaker organ. &nbsp;it's so wonderful to hear this kind of sound = again, especially as part of a rich plenum such as in this organ. <BR> <BR>From a purely mechanical standpoint, the combination action is very = quiet, and, of course, contains "oodles" of levels. &nbsp;&nbsp;Sitting in = the first pew I was aware of a little bit of key action noise, but it was = not offensive. <BR> <BR>I would really like to hear some of the other new Fisks that have been = so badly reviewed. &nbsp;&nbsp;It would be nice to check them all using = the same criteria and ears! &nbsp;&nbsp;But, Opus 119 is definitely a = standard for measurement. <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_189.ef77672.2aca70ef_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Nixon & Fudd From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 23:33:51 -0400   That would appear to have been an even match.   Anonymous   ----- Original Message ----- From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:01 PM Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals     > It was Elmer Fudd and Richard Nixon who fought the duel, and they both died > on February 30th. So much for my memory... > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 23:39:12 EDT     --part1_1a6.96785c1.2aca72e0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/30/02 6:25:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Paulaustin11@aol.com writes:     > Just 2 weddings Colin?? I have between 40 and 50 a year!! > Mercy.... you sound like my father!! heeheehee     Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_1a6.96785c1.2aca72e0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 9/30/02 6:25:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Paulaustin11@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Just 2 weddings = Colin?? &nbsp;I have between 40 and 50 a year!! <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR>Mercy.... you sound like my father!! &nbsp;heeheehee <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_1a6.96785c1.2aca72e0_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: what did you play today? From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 23:43:08 EDT     --part1_1a8.96731d3.2aca73cc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/30/02 9:02:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes:     > Zion Lutheran Church (ELCA) > Hamilton, Ohio (formerly known as The Safe Capital of the World)   OK!!! Is this because it's a very law-abiding place to live or because = it isn't??   ...... or does someone make them? ;-)   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_1a8.96731d3.2aca73cc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 9/30/02 9:02:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes: <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D4 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px">Zion Lutheran Church (ELCA) <BR>Hamilton, Ohio (formerly known as The Safe Capital of the = World)</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>OK!!! &nbsp;&nbsp;Is this because it's a very law-abiding place to = live or because it isn't?? <BR> <BR>..... or does someone make them? &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_1a8.96731d3.2aca73cc_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Fisk Opus 101- Southern Methodist Univ. From: "Jan S. Van Der Stad" <dorian@nac.net> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 23:43:58 -0400   Hi List   Someone recently told me that Fisk Opus 101 is full of distortion. That's something I don't think I've heard yet on a pipe organ. And yet I'm told it's such a thing on this one.   Can anybody confirm this?   Thanks   Jan S. Van Der Stad        
(back) Subject: Adams and Jefferson From: "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 23:08:01 -0500   I just wonder what the last pipe organs both of these gentlemen heard ... = I would assume it was a Hook that Adams heard... checking out was extant in the Charlottesville area at that time for Jefferson....   Sand    
(back) Subject: Re: Fisk Opus 101- Southern Methodist Univ. From: "D. Keith Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:18:22 -0700 (PDT)   I've heard the SMU Fisk in several recitals. I haven't heard any distortion. Whoever told you that needs to clean his ears out.     --- "Jan S. Van Der Stad" <dorian@nac.net> wrote: > Hi List > > Someone recently told me that Fisk Opus 101 is full > of distortion. That's > something I don't think I've heard yet on a pipe > organ. And yet I'm told > it's such a thing on this one. > > Can anybody confirm this? > > Thanks > > Jan S. Van Der Stad > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Questions about Mulet From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 00:41:39 EDT     --part1_126.17c593f7.2aca8183_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   The Thomas Murray recording is wonderful. I am in love with the crecendo that the uses at the end of Nef. Wow...I rewind it about 10 times every = time I listen to that CD.   --part1_126.17c593f7.2aca8183_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>The Thomas Murray = recording is wonderful. &nbsp;I am in love with the crecendo that the uses = at the end of Nef. &nbsp;Wow...I rewind it about 10 times every time I = listen to that CD.</FONT></HTML>   --part1_126.17c593f7.2aca8183_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals From: "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 08:20:11 +0100   "Letter to the Colonies"   Adams ? Jefferson ? Who are these people of whom you speak ?   Harry   -----Original Message----- From: Randolph Runyon <runyonr@muohio.edu> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: 01 October 2002 00:45 Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals     >Of course, if Adams and Jefferson had also fought each other in a duel, = and >both won (or lost), it would have been the same result. ;) > > > >Randy Runyon >Music Director >Zion Lutheran Church >Hamilton, Ohio >runyonr@muohio.edu > > > >on 9/30/02 7:37 PM, Glenda at gksjd85@direcway.com wrote: > >> Pat is right - Hamilton was killed by Burr in a duel on July 11-12 >> (can't remember the year). It was Adams and Jefferson who died within >> hours of each other on July 4, 1826. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Glenda Sutton >> gksjd85@direcway.com >> >> >> >> >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals From: "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 08:25:03 +0100   Colin, I think that 'my' area reflects some of 'your' characteristics. Except that weddings are extremely abundant this year; every Saturday has been full, with others squeezed in on Fridays, Mondays and even Sunday afternoons. But then, our area suffered greatly from 'Foot and Mouth'; so that farm = life and future prospects froze. It might be that the number of weddings = reflects the upturn in farming prospects ? We certainly hope so.   Funerals also busy, early this year. With more and more younger men = turning turtle with strokes.   How's your ticker ?   Harry -----Original Message----- From: cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: 30 September 2002 23:20 Subject: RE: Weddings and Funerals     Hello,   Deaths apparently reach their peak in February! (At least in the UK)   I have had just two weddings all year.   Perhaps it has something to do with the extraordinary rise in the value of real estate and property? Weddings are being delayed as young couples struggle to afford property.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals From: "Roger Brown" <roger2@rogerbrown.no-ip.org> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 17:34:55 +1000     MusicMan> Adams ? Jefferson ? Who are these people of whom you speak ?   Well let's put it this way. If you included them in the Ashes touring party they wouldn't do any worse than the hopeless mob you are sending.       -- Regards, Roger (who lives 5km from the MCG)   Roger Brown roger2@rogerbrown.no-ip.org http://rogerbrown.tripod.com http://member.melbpc.org.au/~robrown/