PipeChat Digest #3155 - Tuesday, October 1, 2002
 
Re: what did you play today?
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
RE: Questions about Mulet
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
RE: Cheap music writing software
  by "Mickey Sadler" <msadler@netset.com>
Re: Weddings and Funerals
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Questions of distortion
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
RE: Weddings and Funerals
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
Re: Questions of distortion
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Questions about Mulet
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
RE: Questions about Mulet
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
Re: Fisk Opus 101- Southern Methodist Univ.
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Fisk Opus 101- Southern Methodist Univ.
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Intermodulation Distortion
  by "noel jones, aago" <zimbelstern@onemain.com>
Re: Weddings and Funerals
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: cheap music writing software?
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Intermodulation Distortion
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Intermodulation Distortion
  by "noel jones, aago" <zimbelstern@onemain.com>
Re: Intermodulation Distortion
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Intermodulation Distortion
  by "Bruce  Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: Re: what did you play today? From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 07:50:11 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --MS_Mac_OE_3116303411_48853_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit   on 9/30/02 11:43 PM, Cremona502@cs.com at Cremona502@cs.com wrote:   In a message dated 9/30/02 9:02:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes:     Zion Lutheran Church (ELCA) Hamilton, Ohio (formerly known as The Safe Capital of the World)     OK!!! Is this because it's a very law-abiding place to live or because = it isn't??   ...... or does someone make them? ;-)   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   Your third guess is correct. It used to be home to three manufacturers of safes: the Mosler Safe Company, the Hamilton Safe Company, and a third = whose name I forget. Only the Hamilton Safe Co. is left. The place is now carving out a new name for itself, however, as "The City of Sculpture." = You can read about it at:   http://enquirer.com/editions/2002/05/29/loc_hamilton_carves.html     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu       --MS_Mac_OE_3116303411_48853_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: what did you play today?</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> on 9/30/02 11:43 PM, Cremona502@cs.com at Cremona502@cs.com wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D3D"2">In a message dated 9/30/02 9:02:38 PM = Eastern Da=3D ylight Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes: <BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D3D"4"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">Zion Lutheran = Church (=3D ELCA) <BR> </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D3D"4"><FONT = FACE=3D3D"Arial">Hamilton, Ohio=3D (formerly known as The Safe Capital of the World)<BR> </FONT></FONT><BR> <BR> OK!!! &nbsp;&nbsp;Is this because it's a very law-abiding place to live or = =3D because it isn't?? <BR> <BR> ...... or does someone make them? &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR> Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon50=3D 2 <BR> ....an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC=3D 2053 <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Your third guess is correct. &nbsp;It used to be home to three = manufacturer=3D s of safes: the Mosler Safe Company, the Hamilton Safe Company, and a = third =3D whose name I forget. &nbsp;Only the Hamilton Safe Co. is left. &nbsp;The = pla=3D ce is now carving out a new name for itself, however, as &quot;The City of = S=3D culpture.&quot; &nbsp;You can read about it at:<BR> <BR> http://enquirer.com/editions/2002/05/29/loc_hamilton_carves.html<BR> <BR> <BR> Randy Runyon<BR> Music Director<BR> Zion Lutheran Church<BR> Hamilton, Ohio<BR> runyonr@muohio.edu<BR> <BR> </BODY> </HTML>     --MS_Mac_OE_3116303411_48853_MIME_Part--    
(back) Subject: RE: Questions about Mulet From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 06:55:25 -0500   Thanks to Paul Emmons for a very responsive and interesting reply. No, I am not a member of the Anglican list - they stray off-topic even more than I do, which is considerable.   Stupid question - of which basilica are you speaking, Paul?   Surely someone knows the answer to the Noel question!   Thanks,   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Emmons, Paul   I believe it was the program notes for Thomas Murray's recording of the Esquisses Byzantine in Doylestown that stated that the toccata celebrates the building's survival of the German artillery assault on Paris in World War I (we're talking about the Basilique du Sacre-Coeur in Paris, of course, where his father had been choirmaster). I have no reason to doubt this. However, I am also struck by his use of this verse in a piece about a building associated with the dogma of Papal Infallibility, as seems to be the case.        
(back) Subject: RE: Cheap music writing software From: "Mickey Sadler" <msadler@netset.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 08:21:37 -0400   At 6:21 PM -0500 9/30/02, PipeChat wrote: > >Subject: cheap music writing software? >From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> >Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:06:29 -0400 > > >I was intrigued by this mention of Noteworthy Composer, which at $39 = seems >an excellent buy. However, as I understand from their web site, it only >works in Windows and I work on a Mac. I was about to buy Finale, but can >someone please tell me if there is music writing software for the Mac = that >is in the price range of Noteworthy Composer? > > >Randy Runyon >Music Director >Zion Lutheran Church >Hamilton, Ohio >runyonr@muohio.edu     Hi All,   You might want to check ABC at http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/. (Also check http://abcmr.sourceforge.net/.) Programs are available for the MAC, Windows, DOS, UNIX, Linux, etc. Most are free, some are shareware and not all have all the extensions to ABC. I have been using Barfly on my iMAC. Music is written as ascii text using any text editor, then one of the ABC programs will open the text file and give you a printed score, a MIDI file, and/or play the music. You can also send ABC files by e-mail since they are text files. That makes a very efficient way to exchange music.   Back to lurking.   Later,   Mickey     -- Mickey E. Sadler Dublin, Ohio  
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 09:15:49 -0400   On 9/30/02 6:39 PM, "TubaMagna@aol.com" <TubaMagna@aol.com> wrote:   > Jefferson and Hamilton   Jefferson and Adams?   Alan    
(back) Subject: Questions of distortion From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 09:27:07 EDT   Dear List Members:   Fisk 101, one of Robert Anderson's projects, is in a rather intimate hall, and can be heard and seen at close range. No organbuilder of high calibre would risk "tonal distortion" in that setting, whatever the = alleged critic may have actually meant. It might be best, in the future, to simply =   ask, "For those of you who have played and heard Fisk Opus 101, please = share your experiences." Third- and fourth- hand "information" is a very, very destructive = force in what we ironically call the "organ community." I once asked somebody = if they'd ever heard a particular person play in recital, since the artist = was scheduled to play nearby that fall. Their response was, "Don't count on = it. He ALWAYS cancels his concerts. A total coward. Backs out of everything." What was the TRUTH? The gentleman in question fell on the ice and = chipped his elbow three years earlier, and was forced to cancel an engagement that =   would have meant a great deal to him and his career. I found THAT out by actually attending the concert, and speaking to his loyal following. If a pipe organ has a "prepared for" stop, it suddenly turns into, = "That builder NEVER finishes ANYTHING." If the church decides to carpet and = cushion after the organ has been scaled, built, installed, voiced, and finished, inevitably somebody will say, "They have NO grasp of scaling." If a recitalist has a brief memory lapse in an otherwise astounding and = engaging performance, you can count on a campaign of, "What a complete fraud. They should NEVER play in public." The way we phrase questions prejudices the respondent and the = witnesses (those legalitarians on board know this from the courtroom). Let us not scuttle each others' careers and livelihoods based upon hearsay, and not "lead the witness." Sweeping generalizations are destructive (have you = ever been a victim of one?). As our profession withers, let us bring out the watering can, not the defoliant.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: RE: Weddings and Funerals From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:59:57 +0100   Hello,   Talking about weddings reminds me of a ridiculous sceanrio into which I = was once drawn.   During the Chilean crisis, when people were disappearing and Pinochet = was on the rampage, we had a number of genuine refugees turn up on our = shores in the UK. I cannot recall the exact details, but two refugees = were advised to get married in some haste......it helped their case.   So it was, that five people gathered at a wedding; during which I was = Organist, Best Man and held the baby!!   Now, if you have ever tried to play a hymn holding a baby!   We celebrated afterwards with a take-away pizza and a bottle of cheap = champagne. The speech was in English and the happy couple smiled and = nodded without understanding a word.   Regards, Colin Mitchell UK           -----Original Message----- From: "pipechat@pipechat.org" <pipechat@pipechat.org> on behalf of "Cremona502@cs.com" <Cremona502@cs.com>=20 Sent: 01 October 2002 03:39=20 To: "pipechat@pipechat.org" <pipechat@pipechat.org>=20 Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals=20   In a message dated 9/30/02 6:25:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Paulaustin11@aol.com writes:=20         Just 2 weddings Colin?? I have between 40 and 50 a year!!=20 =09     Mercy.... you sound like my father!! heeheehee=20     Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502=20 ...an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053  
(back) Subject: Re: Questions of distortion From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:35:13 EDT     --part1_23.2521f4a4.2acb0ca1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   amen   --part1_23.2521f4a4.2acb0ca1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>amen</FONT></HTML>   --part1_23.2521f4a4.2acb0ca1_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Questions about Mulet From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 10:53:38 EDT     --part1_69.2e0e7fe4.2acb10f2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Glenda, would be so kind as to forward Paul's words on Mulet to me? I accidentally deleted the note in a group of others and can't retrieve = deletes on AOL.   Thanks.   Darryl     --part1_69.2e0e7fe4.2acb10f2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Glenda, would be so kind as to forward Paul's = words on Mulet to me? I accidentally deleted the note in a group of others = and can't retrieve deletes on AOL.<BR> <BR> Thanks.<BR> <BR> Darryl<BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_69.2e0e7fe4.2acb10f2_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: Questions about Mulet From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 11:31:16 -0400   >Stupid question - of which basilica are you speaking, Paul?   Sacre-Coeur, Paris (as I had mentioned parenthetically). The architecture is more-or-less Byzantine. My explanation must have been in keeping :-)    
(back) Subject: Re: Fisk Opus 101- Southern Methodist Univ. From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:46:00 EDT     --part1_18d.f1f08e2.2acb4768_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/30/02 11:45:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = dorian@nac.net writes:     > Someone recently told me that Fisk Opus 101 is full of distortion. = That's > something I don't think I've heard yet on a pipe organ. And yet I'm = told >   Hi, Last night when I attended the recital at First Presbyterian, Gainesville = FL, on Fisk Op 119, I noticed what I thought was a man talking in low tones during loud parts of the music. It was so constant that I decided that there was no person so rude or others so oblivious that this could = actually be the case. When I moved back about 2/3 of the way down the nave, I no longer heard it. I did not hear it at the previous recital when i sat in = the gallery.   I'm not allowed to post on Piporg, but if you can somehow submit this experience without using my name, I'd be interested to know if that is = what the person experienced.   bruce cornely   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_18d.f1f08e2.2acb4768_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 9/30/02 11:45:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dorian@nac.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Someone recently = told me that Fisk Opus 101 is full of distortion. &nbsp;That's <BR>something I don't think I've heard yet on a pipe organ. &nbsp;And yet = I'm told <BR>it's such a thing on this one.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Hi, <BR>Last night when I attended the recital at First Presbyterian, = Gainesville FL, on Fisk Op 119, I noticed what I thought was a man talking = in low tones during loud parts of the music. &nbsp;&nbsp;It was so = constant that I decided that there was no person so rude or others so = oblivious that this could actually be the case. &nbsp;&nbsp;When I moved = back about 2/3 of the way down the nave, I no longer heard it. &nbsp;I did = not hear it at the previous recital when i sat in the gallery. <BR> <BR>I'm not allowed to post on Piporg, but if you can somehow submit this = experience without using my name, I'd be interested to know if that is = what the person experienced. <BR> <BR>bruce cornely <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_18d.f1f08e2.2acb4768_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Fisk Opus 101- Southern Methodist Univ. From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:46:43 EDT     --part1_73.26b7d095.2acb4793_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Oh.. teeheehee   I thought this discussion was only on POrg... and thought the previous = post was to an individual.... ooopsie oopsie!!   ;-)     Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_73.26b7d095.2acb4793_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Oh.. teeheehee <BR> <BR>I thought this discussion was only on POrg... and thought the previous = post was to an individual.... &nbsp;&nbsp;ooopsie oopsie!! <BR> <BR>;-) <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_73.26b7d095.2acb4793_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Intermodulation Distortion From: "noel jones, aago" <zimbelstern@onemain.com> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 14:50:46 -0400   Intermodulation Distortion was very much in evidence in the Casavant at the Catholic Cathedral In Erie, PA when I heard and played it, and I discussed this with a piano tuner who displayed it quite vividly in a Steinway grand as well... -- noel jones, aago    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:03:27 EDT     --part1_60.26f9e356.2acb4b7f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 10/1/02 3:25:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk writes:     > Adams ? Jefferson ? Who are these people of whom you speak ? > Well, let's see. I understand that Sam Adams makes really great beer!! = ;-)     Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_60.26f9e356.2acb4b7f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 10/1/02 3:25:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk = writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Adams ? = &nbsp;Jefferson ? &nbsp;Who are these people of whom you speak ? <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Well, let's see. &nbsp;I understand that Sam = Adams makes really great beer!! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_60.26f9e356.2acb4b7f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: cheap music writing software? From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 15:48:08 -0400   Many thanks to all those who wrote to answer my question about inexpensive music writing software. I decided, however, to go ahead and get the full-fledged Finale 2003 at the educator's discount ($300).     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: Intermodulation Distortion From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 15:51:19 EDT     --part1_d4.1e0dd46d.2acb56b7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 10/1/02 2:53:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, zimbelstern@onemain.com writes:     > Intermodulation Distortion   can you elaborate on just what this is and how it manifests itself! = thankee   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_d4.1e0dd46d.2acb56b7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 10/1/02 2:53:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, zimbelstern@onemain.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Intermodulation = Distortion </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>can you elaborate on just what this is and how it manifests itself! = &nbsp;&nbsp;thankee <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_d4.1e0dd46d.2acb56b7_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Intermodulation Distortion From: "noel jones, aago" <zimbelstern@onemain.com> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 16:16:22 -0400     --------------7EB74FDED41B98D2412B3A93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii; x-mac-type=3D"54455854"; = x-mac-creator=3D"4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   > can you elaborate on just what this is and how it manifests itself! > thankee   Imagine you have two howling beagles and you are standing in between them...as the pitch of the howling (or singing, if you prefer) comes close upper partials sound fuzzy...sort of a white noise.   In a very good grand this happens but is not noticeable at a distance...someone much more knowledgeable than I (meaning just about anybody) can explain it better than i can.   -- noel jones, aago       --------------7EB74FDED41B98D2412B3A93 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html>   <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"Arial"><font color=3D"#000000"><font = size=3D-1>can you elaborate on just what this is and how it manifests = itself!&nbsp;&nbsp; thankee</font></font></font></blockquote> Imagine you have two howling beagles and you are standing in between = them...as the pitch of the howling (or singing, if you prefer) comes close upper partials sound fuzzy...sort of a white noise. <p>In a very good grand this happens but is not noticeable at a = distance...someone much more knowledgeable than I (meaning just about anybody) can explain it better than i can. <p>-- <br>noel jones, aago <br>&nbsp; <br>&nbsp;</html>   --------------7EB74FDED41B98D2412B3A93--    
(back) Subject: Re: Intermodulation Distortion From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 16:37:01 EDT     --part1_99.2d4d0f32.2acb616d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 10/1/02 4:19:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, zimbelstern@onemain.com writes:     > Imagine you have two howling beagles   haahaahaa.... that's cute!   thanks.... your explanation made sense (at least to me)   arrrrrrrrrooooooooooooooooooooooo   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_99.2d4d0f32.2acb616d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 10/1/02 4:19:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, zimbelstern@onemain.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Imagine you have = two howling beagles </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>haahaahaa.... that's cute! <BR> <BR>thanks.... &nbsp;&nbsp;your explanation made sense (at least to me) <BR> <BR>arrrrrrrrrooooooooooooooooooooooo <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_99.2d4d0f32.2acb616d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Intermodulation Distortion From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 22:44:41 +0100   Hello all,   Intermodulation distortion is, put at it's simplest, the result of = applying two pure tones to a non-linear device. The device can be some kind of amplifier but can be any transmission system, and it is non-linear if the output does not faithfully follow the input. An overloaded or badly = designed amplifier is the most common such device, cable connections or dirty plugs and sockets with bad joints (which form minature rectifiers) can also do = the same thing.   The effect of the non-linearity is to produce mainly sum and difference products (also products of multiples of two tones), which are heard if = they are in the audible range. But, I hear you cry, these are resultants which are are often what is wanted.   Well, the difference tone may be, but the sum is not, and the undesireable effect comes from this and from the myriad multiple products. To really compound the potential problem musical tones are usually far from pure, = they comprise multiple overtones which intermodulate with one another and with those of other tones in the system and can produce the most horrendous noise. This depends on the degree of non- linearity in the system, by far the worst potential trouble source is an overloaded digital amplifier. (though some devotees of so-called music actually like this).   But what, I wonder has all this got to do with intermodulation occuring apparently in fresh air. I've never come across it so must speculate from here on. The first thought is, is there a mike/amplifier set-up switched on - a sound re-inforcement system for instance. That must be number one suspect. Otherwise it must be something purely mechanical, a loose panel which is picking up the sound and re-radiating a distorted version of it. Part of = the organ or piano case, windows, radiators, pictures and frames - anything = with a large surface area which can vibrate should be suspect. Play one or two loud notes on a flute or diapason in various parts of the compass, walk round and have a good listen. Try 'damping out' any vibration with your = hand and see if it makes a difference.   The only other thought which occurs is that there is some sort leakage (running)within the chests, and notes (low notes ?) are sounding or half sounding which should not be. Just a thought.   Would be interested to hear if you find the answer.   Bruce Miles     mail to:- bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk website:- http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "noel jones, aago" <zimbelstern@onemain.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 7:50 PM Subject: Intermodulation Distortion     > Intermodulation Distortion was very much in evidence in the Casavant at > the Catholic Cathedral In Erie, PA when I heard and played it, and I > discussed this with a piano tuner who displayed it quite vividly in a > Steinway grand as well... > -- > noel jones, aago > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >