PipeChat Digest #3170 - Saturday, October 12, 2002
 
Re: Fisk Opus 101- Southern Methodist Univ.
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Johannus specifications
  by "pat and ian" <patian@senet.com.au>
Re: Fisk Opus 101- Southern Methodist Univ.
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Johannus specifications
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Re: Johannus specifications
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Fisk Opus 101- Southern Methodist Univ. From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 10:58:28 -0500   I service Fisk 101, and can confirm that it is a fine instrument with = ample winding, and a light, sensitive, and reliable action! When the organ was installed, it was necessary to pull the Wind Stabilizer stop to get steady wind. That has now been changed so that one pulls Wind Stabilizer Off to = get unsteady wind. Thus the "steady wind" is the norm, and some confusion is eliminated. After hearing this organ on many occasions, and played by many different organists, I must say that most of the anomalies I hear come from the = touch of the performer. Remember that it is necessary to get the key all the way down, = particularly with large registrations. This is especially true when the servo = pneumatic is engaged. Remember that it follows the motion of the finger exactly. One also needs = a swift depression of the key and a sharp release to avoid blurring and an = under winded sound. As fine a player as Rubsam is, I believe this is the = problem heard on the recording Michael Barone mentioned. This was, however, one = of the most memorable performances I have ever heard by any player on any = organ. People were literally jumping up and down and cheering at the end. Roy Redman.   "Jan S. Van Der Stad" wrote:   > Hi List > > Someone recently told me that Fisk Opus 101 is full of distortion. = That's > something I don't think I've heard yet on a pipe organ. And yet I'm = told > it's such a thing on this one. > > Can anybody confirm this? > > Thanks > > Jan S. Van Der Stad > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Johannus specifications From: "pat and ian" <patian@senet.com.au> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 06:25:10 +0930   Does anyone know the number and specification of the speakers in the new series of Johannus organs.   The excellently printed brochures don't contain this information.   Are the new R@D developments obvious to the ear, or only to the eye when = you study the brochures?   I'm referring to the Opus, Sweelinck, etc. stock models.   Ian.    
(back) Subject: Re: Fisk Opus 101- Southern Methodist Univ. From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 16:46:48 -0500   This raises an interesting question about the touch of organs in general and how the technique of particular players and the action of particular organs may sometimes be incompatible. When I was growing up in England I used to play quite a bit on the 1894 Hill tracker at Holy Trinity, Taunton, and this was fitted with relief pallets. The action was sensitive and comfortable to play on, but it too required the key to be depressed firmly and fully if there was not to be an underwinded effect. With the growing revival of the symphonic style of playing, and the performance of very rapid passages in large scale organ works and transcriptions, we at Quimby Pipe Organs are increasingly being asked by customers to adjust the key contacts on our electro-pneumatic instruments closer than is the normal standard to facilitate extraordinarily rapid playing. This seems in some ways to be a return to the feather touch action of some organs of the early twentieth century -- like the organ in my school chapel in England, which had keys you barely had to breathe on for them to sound. As a not very good player I always found this very awkward, but a very good player could work wonders with it. I remember the late Dr. Henry G. Ley making some very complimentary remarks about it when he visited there. Perhaps it's about time to develop some kind of instantly adjustable firing points on organ consoles.   John Speller   Roy Redman wrote:   > After hearing this organ on many occasions, and played by many different > organists, I must say that most of the anomalies I hear come from the = touch of > the performer. > Remember that it is necessary to get the key all the way down, = particularly > with large registrations. This is especially true when the servo = pneumatic is > engaged. > Remember that it follows the motion of the finger exactly. One also = needs a > swift depression of the key and a sharp release to avoid blurring and an = under > winded sound. As fine a player as Rubsam is, I believe this is the = problem > heard on the recording Michael Barone mentioned.  
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus specifications From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 18:35:53 -0400   At 06:25 AM 10/13/2002 +0930, you wrote: >Does anyone know the number and specification of the speakers in the new >series of Johannus organs. > >The excellently printed brochures don't contain this information. > >Are the new R@D developments obvious to the ear, or only to the eye when = you >study the brochures? > >I'm referring to the Opus, Sweelinck, etc. stock models. > >Ian. Ian,   I dont think that the new Johannus organs are all that different. Just advertised as the latest and greatest. It is interesting the line they re-designed first was the Opus line, which is the cheapest. Does one really think that they sounded better than the Sweelink stuff, Monarke etc. I dont think so.   They are using a different Atmel Dream chip now, but technically unless they spent a lot of R & D on it, it can only do pretty much what the previous chip did. They may have incorporated some better samples, the = odd new feature, but audibly they will be much the same as the previous models. To come up with audibly better organs, requires massive amounts = of R & D money, talented engineers (both software and hardware), better audio =   systems. Generally, at this point in the game, this also means a more expensive product.   And those glossy borchures, they really do help sell organs, as a lot of customers hear with their eyes.   Regards,   Arie V.    
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus specifications From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:52:50 +1300   I played a large 3-manual Johannus Sweelinck instrument about a monthago, four days after it was installed. I was not impressed tonally, or with the layout of the console. The tone was fairly dull, rather 1940s-ish English, and the design was not anything like I'd choose. No better than the 2m 10-yr-old Allen in the church I go to, and I don't like that thing either. Ross   >Are the new R@D developments obvious to the ear, or only to the eye when you >study the brochures? > >I'm referring to the Opus, Sweelinck, etc. stock models.