PipeChat Digest #3172 - Sunday, October 13, 2002
 
sheet music
  by "dballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br>
Re: silence is golden
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
Re: Johannus specifications
  by "G. Deboer" <gdeboer@bluemarble.net>
Re: Johannus specifications
  by "pat and ian" <patian@senet.com.au>
Re: silence is golden
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
 

(back) Subject: sheet music From: "dballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:22:17 -0300   Hi, List.   Now, in "Sala de M=FAsica", site of music of my church, First Baptist Church of Rio de Janeiro, we began to put some organ and choir sheet music (free download). There are five compositions written by brazilian composers. TWo are for pedal solo. In next weeks, I hope, we'll have more.   Domitila Ballesteros   --- UOL Elei=E7=F5es 2002 - Todos os lances da disputa pol=EDtica http://eleicoes.uol.com.br/    
(back) Subject: Re: silence is golden From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:43:21 EDT     --part1_165.1512e522.2ada53e9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Notes in the bulletins don't do any good in most churches. We have tried several formats for the Prelude. The one that works the best is to have = the announcements first and whoever does them to say something about listening =   quietly to the prelude, and the choir comes in at that time, too. That = makes the Prelude part of the service rather than "music to chat by." However, = for the evening service, I play while people are entering and visiting and the =   service starts with a song following the prelude. For a while I was = waiting to start the Prelude just as it was time for the service to start, and the =   people said they missed the music while they were entering. Lee   --part1_165.1512e522.2ada53e9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Notes in the bulletins = don't do any good in most churches. &nbsp;We have tried several formats = for the Prelude. &nbsp;The one that works the best is to have the = announcements first and whoever does them to say something about listening = quietly to the prelude, and the choir comes in at that time, too. = &nbsp;That makes the Prelude part of the service rather than "music to = chat by." &nbsp;However, for the evening service, I play while people are = entering and visiting and the service starts with a song following the = prelude. &nbsp;For a while I was waiting to start the Prelude just as it = was time for the service to start, and the people said they missed the = music while they were entering. &nbsp;&nbsp;Lee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_165.1512e522.2ada53e9_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus specifications From: "G. Deboer" <gdeboer@bluemarble.net> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 00:30:22 -0500   It is of course quite obvious that our friend "Arie" really does not know what he is talking about. For anyone out there wanting the truth about = what the newest organs from Johannus are all about, please contact the factory = to put you in touch with a very knowledgeable dealer in your area who will answer your questions in a straight forward and honest way.   Gary   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 5:35 PM Subject: Re: Johannus specifications     > At 06:25 AM 10/13/2002 +0930, you wrote: > >Does anyone know the number and specification of the speakers in the = new > >series of Johannus organs. > > > >The excellently printed brochures don't contain this information. > > > >Are the new R@D developments obvious to the ear, or only to the eye = when you > >study the brochures? > > > >I'm referring to the Opus, Sweelinck, etc. stock models. > > > >Ian. > Ian, > > I dont think that the new Johannus organs are all that different. Just > advertised as the latest and greatest. It is interesting the line they > re-designed first was the Opus line, which is the cheapest. Does one > really think that they sounded better than the Sweelink stuff, Monarke > etc. I dont think so. > > They are using a different Atmel Dream chip now, but technically unless > they spent a lot of R & D on it, it can only do pretty much what the > previous chip did. They may have incorporated some better samples, the odd > new feature, but audibly they will be much the same as the previous > models. To come up with audibly better organs, requires massive amounts of > R & D money, talented engineers (both software and hardware), better = audio > systems. Generally, at this point in the game, this also means a more > expensive product. > > And those glossy borchures, they really do help sell organs, as a lot of > customers hear with their eyes. > > Regards, > > Arie V. > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus specifications From: "pat and ian" <patian@senet.com.au> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:59:45 +0930     Thanks Arie,   As always, I really do appreciate receiving your information.   Gary Deboer's message to the list made me "smile". The local Johannus = dealer in my area is not "a very knowledgeable dealer" and I sometimes find = myself knowing a great deal more than he does.   Do you know if Mr. Deboer is a Johannus dealer?   The new feature Johannus organs in Australia are almost the same price as the previous models. So, that seems to suggest something.   What's the latest these days on the Ahlborn Galanti Organum or any other = Mr. Pitts information?   Regards Ian.    
(back) Subject: Re: silence is golden From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 03:27:03 -0500   I've only experienced the Prelude at the start of service time in Lutheran churches, and I do like it conceptually as being recognized as part of worship, not what happens before worship starts.   On the other hand, I enjoy playing 15-20 minutes before the service = begins. At the Baptist church I played for for 13 years, the early comers tended = to settle down in silence and listen, so I'd pull out subtle music to start. The talkers really got going only in the last few minutes before time, by which time I'd be doing something more in background/mood music mode.   Rip Jackson, at Grace Congregational Church here in Rutland, VT, manages = to get attention paid to music by having enormously varied and very well done music. People hate to miss any of it! At the Postlude, the minister pronounces a Benediction, and then he/she and the 40 voice choir in the front balcony sit back down for the organ postlude- a few people slink = out, but almost everyone sits to listen.   This takes clergy who are convinced of the value of music as more than background. It strikes me that it might be easier (with the right cues) to have people listen to the Postlude than to the Prelude. How about that for a trade-off?   Paul       At 11:43 PM -0500 10/12/2, Chicaleee@aol.com wrote: >Notes in the bulletins don't do any good in most churches. We have tried >several formats for the Prelude. The one that works the best is to have >the announcements first and whoever does them to say something about >listening quietly to the prelude, and the choir comes in at that time, >too. That makes the Prelude part of the service rather than "music to >chat by." However, for the evening service, I play while people are >entering and visiting and the service starts with a song following the >prelude. For a while I was waiting to start the Prelude just as it was >time for the service to start, and the people said they missed the music >while they were entering. Lee     http://www.sover.net/~popel/agomain.html