PipeChat Digest #3173 - Sunday, October 13, 2002
 
Re: Johannus specifications
  by "Teah" <teahzg@charter.net>
Pricing Electronic Organs
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
(no subject)
  by "dballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br>
address sheet music
  by "dballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br>
Re: Johannus specifications
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Johannus specifications
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Johannus specifications
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
(no subject)
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
music list
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Chicago Organs
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Johannus specifications From: "Teah" <teahzg@charter.net> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 05:35:34 -0500   Now Gary, play nice. Frankly, having had the opportunity to play the = "new" Johannus, including the much hyped "American Classic V", I'm afraid I must agree with Arie's assessment....more of the same all dressed up in a new box. As for getting in touch with a knowledgeable Johannus Dealer ... hmmm... around Northern Wisconsin they're VERY good at arm twisting and = high pressure sales tactics... little else. Because of my experience with Johannus Dealers in my area, my money went to a custom Dutch builder that has provided me with a truly fine hand crafted instrument and personal service.   I realize that there are a lot of folks thrilled with the Johannus ... = it's just not for me.   Cheers,   Tim   ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Deboer" <gdeboer@bluemarble.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 12:30 AM Subject: Re: Johannus specifications     > It is of course quite obvious that our friend "Arie" really does not = know > what he is talking about. For anyone out there wanting the truth about what > the newest organs from Johannus are all about, please contact the = factory to > put you in touch with a very knowledgeable dealer in your area who will > answer your questions in a straight forward and honest way. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 5:35 PM > Subject: Re: Johannus specifications > > > > At 06:25 AM 10/13/2002 +0930, you wrote: > > >Does anyone know the number and specification of the speakers in the new > > >series of Johannus organs. > > > > > >The excellently printed brochures don't contain this information. > > > > > >Are the new R@D developments obvious to the ear, or only to the eye when > you > > >study the brochures? > > > > > >I'm referring to the Opus, Sweelinck, etc. stock models. > > > > > >Ian. > > Ian, > > > > I dont think that the new Johannus organs are all that different. = Just > > advertised as the latest and greatest. It is interesting the line = they > > re-designed first was the Opus line, which is the cheapest. Does one > > really think that they sounded better than the Sweelink stuff, Monarke > > etc. I dont think so. > > > > They are using a different Atmel Dream chip now, but technically = unless > > they spent a lot of R & D on it, it can only do pretty much what the > > previous chip did. They may have incorporated some better samples, = the > odd > > new feature, but audibly they will be much the same as the previous > > models. To come up with audibly better organs, requires massive = amounts > of > > R & D money, talented engineers (both software and hardware), better audio > > systems. Generally, at this point in the game, this also means a more > > expensive product. > > > > And those glossy borchures, they really do help sell organs, as a lot = of > > customers hear with their eyes. > > > > Regards, > > > > Arie V. > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Pricing Electronic Organs From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:41:05 EDT   Dear Pipe Chatters: In all fairness, the price of electronic and digital organs will = continue to decrease as quality increases for a very simple reason. The components used in digital organs are farmed in wetlands, much the =   same way as rice is. Billions of circuit boards and components are = harvested every year, and once their husks are removed and the digital components dried, they can be stored in warehouses for decades, which is why = electronic manufacturers insist that you can get replacement parts for any of their existing models. As the demand for digital organs increases, so does the demand for electricity. As we burn more fossil fuels to generate power for these instruments, the climate has changed, causing longer rainy seasons in the areas where electronic organ parts are farmed. This year's diode crop may have yielded enough parts for two hundred years. Surplus parts are packaged and sold as tasty, nutritious snack foods. Please note that I am a pipe organ builder, so not all of the = aforemention ed facts may be accurate. SMG  
(back) Subject: From: "dballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:53:28 -0300   Hi, List. Sorry, I forgot to send the address of "Sala de M=FAsica" where are the sheet music.   http://www.pibrj.org.br/musica Domitila Ballesteros     --- UOL Elei=E7=F5es 2002 - Todos os lances da disputa pol=EDtica http://eleicoes.uol.com.br/    
(back) Subject: address sheet music From: "dballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:53:52 -0300   Hi, List. Sorry, I forgot to send the address of "Sala de M=FAsica" where are the sheet music.   http://www.pibrj.org.br/musica Domitila Ballesteros     --- UOL Elei=E7=F5es 2002 - Todos os lances da disputa pol=EDtica http://eleicoes.uol.com.br/    
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus specifications From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:28:16 EDT     --part1_12.27206e0d.2adb1540_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   The pipe organ has been around for hundreds of years. Its sounds have inspired musicians to practice and compose, and congregations to sing. = Its size, power, and majesty awe all types of people, whether they are = organists, violinists, businessmen or mechanics. The PIPE organ offers something of interest to all, whether it is its mechanism, whispering celeste ranks, thundering bombardes, or a beautiful facade. Pipe organs beautify the worship space and give the opportunity for the congregation to have pride = and joy while worshipping. The pipe organ is a living and breathing = instrument created by honest, hardworking craftsmen who LOVE their work and pride themselves by making their instruments the best they can be. I am a = senior in college earning an organ performance degree. At school, I have a large =   Martin Ott tracker-action instrument at my disposal at all times. She is = a fine organ, and whenever there is a problem, Martin helps to solve it, = often out of the goodness of his heart. However, the church that I play at has = an Allen MDS8. She will play a service OK, but has no character and sounds = flat and ugly. I question the business ethics of Allen. I think my church = paid around 25,000 for this organ. The great division has NO REEDS and German stop nomenclature. It has a flute celeste and a wimpy 16' gedact which is =   BORROWED FROM THE SWELL. The Swell division has French stop nomenclature, = 3 ugly reeds, and ugly mixture, and a mediocre sesquialtera and no 8' = diapason. The pedal division does not even have a 16' prinzipal. The foundation of =   the pedal is a 16' Bordun, the only other 16' flue in the pedal is a 16' gedact borrowed from the swell. My organ does have a midi box which = allows me to assign one additional rank to each division of the organ. However, these midi stops will not couple down. For example, If I put an 8' open diapason on the swell midi channel and couple the swell to the great, that =   open diapason will not sound! Another brief story about this organ-I = wanted to adjust the reverb-on the console there is a switch for reverb that only =   offers it to be ON or OFF. I wanted to add more reverb so I checked the owners manual-under reverb it says, "contact your Allen Representative for =   reverb adjustments." After that, I opened the back of the console to find = a clearly marked knob that says "reverb level." All of these things make me =   question the business ETHICS of electronic builders. Why would there be = so many borrowed ranks on an organ with no pipes????? That is so cheap and stingy! Why wouldn't the midi voices (these are my organ's life savers) couple to other divisions? Why would they make you call an Allen representative to have a silly little thumb screw turned a half inch? My predecessor requested a back rest to be put on the bench, so Allen sent = one (like a Schantz back rest-made out of 3 pieces of wood) and charged 800 dollars! A local craftsman could have made the same piece in 1 hour time = for a quarter the price-and with pride and love, not greed. These companies = are DISHONEST. Their livelihood depends upon misleading naive organ = committees who couldn't play a c major scale let alone a Bach Prelude and Fugue. Imagine a corporation convincing a 5 year old boy that a certain stock = option is better than another. Electronic builders claim to have authentic sounding stuff but the truth is that NOTHING can give the same sound as = wind passing over the lips of a pipe. Even lovers of electronic organs know = this deep down. That will never change. There is no love or art in digital organs, they are not timeless, they are not beautiful, organists hate to = play them. We need to get the message out that pipe organs are the answer to creating honest, true music. Spending 400,000 now and having a fine organ =   for many generations is better than spending 25,000 on a simple computer in an ugly cabinet that will need to be replaced as it becomes "out dated." I am sure that this letter will upset a few-sorry, but these are my = feelings, I am sure that others share them. Gregory   --part1_12.27206e0d.2adb1540_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>The pipe organ has been = around for hundreds of years. &nbsp;Its sounds have inspired musicians to = practice and compose, and congregations to sing. &nbsp;Its size, power, = and majesty awe all types of people, whether they are organists, = violinists, businessmen or mechanics. &nbsp;The PIPE organ offers = something of interest to all, whether it is its mechanism, whispering = celeste ranks, thundering bombardes, or a beautiful facade. &nbsp;Pipe = organs beautify the worship space and give the opportunity for the = congregation to have pride and joy while worshipping. &nbsp;The pipe organ = is a living and breathing instrument created by honest, hardworking = craftsmen who LOVE their work and pride themselves by making their = instruments the best they can be. &nbsp;I am a senior in college earning = an organ performance degree. &nbsp;At school, I have a large Martin Ott = tracker-action instrument at my disposal at all times. &nbsp;She is a fine = organ, and whe <BR>I am sure that this letter will upset a few-sorry, but these are my = feelings, I am sure that others share them. <BR>Gregory</FONT></HTML>   --part1_12.27206e0d.2adb1540_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus specifications From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:38:57 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --B_3117364737_11852767 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   On 10/13/02 2:28 PM, "Gfc234@aol.com" <Gfc234@aol.com> wrote:   > At school, I have a large Martin Ott tracker-action instrument at my = disp=3D osal > at all times. She is a fine organ, and whe > I am sure that this letter will upset a few-sorry, but these are my = feeli=3D ngs, > I am sure that others share them.   Gregory, you are a fortunate person indeed. What school do you attend?   Be assured that I am one of the many who DO share your feelings.   Alan Freed Saint Luke=3DB9s Church Manhattan   --B_3117364737_11852767 Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: Johannus specifications</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">On 10/13/02 2:28 PM, = &quot;Gfc234@aol.com&quot=3D ; &lt;Gfc234@aol.com&gt; wrote:<BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">At school, I have a = large M=3D artin Ott tracker-action instrument at my disposal at all times. &nbsp;She = i=3D s a fine organ, and whe <BR> I am sure that this letter will upset a few-sorry, but these are my = feeling=3D s, I am sure that others share them. <BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman"><BR> Gregory, you are a fortunate person indeed. &nbsp;What school do you = attend=3D ?<BR> <BR> Be assured that I am one of the many who DO share your feelings.<BR> <BR> Alan Freed<BR> Saint Luke&#8217;s Church<BR> Manhattan</FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --B_3117364737_11852767--    
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus specifications From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:53:36 EDT     --part1_163.159a2b27.2adb1b30_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I am at Northern Illinois University-about 45 minutes west of the Sears Tower. We have some neat organs in the Chicago area!. Best, Gregory   --part1_163.159a2b27.2adb1b30_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I am at Northern = Illinois University-about 45 minutes west of the Sears Tower. &nbsp;We = have some neat organs in the Chicago area!. <BR>Best, <BR>Gregory</FONT></HTML>   --part1_163.159a2b27.2adb1b30_boundary--  
(back) Subject: (no subject) From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:02:00 EDT     --part1_17e.101d3e33.2adb1d28_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Subj: Re: Johannus specifications=3D20 Date: 10/13/2002 1:28:16 PM Central Daylight Time=3D20 From: <A HREF=3D3D"mailto:Gfc234">Gfc234</A> =3D20 To: <A = HREF=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> =3D20=3D =3D20 =3D20     The pipe organ has been around for hundreds of years. =3DA0Its sounds = have=3D20 inspired musicians to practice and compose, and congregations to sing. = =3DA0It=3D s=3D20 size, power, and majesty awe all types of people, whether they are = organists=3D ,=3D20 violinists, businessmen or mechanics. =3DA0The PIPE organ offers something = of=3D20 interest to all, whether it is its mechanism, whispering celeste = ranks,=3D20 thundering bombardes, or a beautiful facade. =3DA0Pipe organs beautify = the=3D20 worship space and give the opportunity for the congregation to have pride = an=3D d=3D20 joy while worshipping. =3DA0The pipe organ is a living and breathing = instrumen=3D t=3D20 created by honest, hardworking craftsmen who LOVE their work and = pride=3D20 themselves by making their instruments the best they can be. =3DA0I am a = senio=3D r=3D20 in college earning an organ performance degree. =3DA0At school, I have a = large=3D =3D20 Martin Ott tracker-action instrument at my disposal at all times. =3DA0She = is=3D20=3D a=3D20 fine organ, and whenever there is a problem, Martin helps to solve it, = often=3D =3D20 out of the goodness of his heart. =3DA0However, the church that I play at = has=3D20=3D an=3D20 Allen MDS8. =3DA0She will play a service OK, but has no character and = sounds f=3D lat=3D20 and ugly. =3DA0I question the business ethics of Allen. =3DA0I think my = church p=3D aid=3D20 around 25,000 for this organ. =3DA0The great division has NO REEDS and = German=3D20 stop nomenclature. =3DA0It has a flute celeste and a wimpy 16' gedact = which is=3D =3D20 BORROWED FROM THE SWELL. =3DA0The Swell division has French stop = nomenclature,=3D =3DA03=3D20 ugly reeds, and ugly mixture, and a mediocre sesquialtera and no 8' = diapason=3D ..=3D20 =3DA0The pedal division does not even have a 16' prinzipal. =3DA0The = foundation=3D20=3D of=3D20 the pedal is a 16' Bordun, the only other 16' flue in the pedal is a = 16'=3D20 gedact borrowed from the swell. =3DA0My organ does have a midi box which = allow=3D s=3D20 me to assign one additional rank to each division of the organ. = =3DA0However,=3D20 these midi stops will not couple down. =3DA0For example, If I put an 8' = open=3D20 diapason on the swell midi channel and couple the swell to the great, = that=3D20 open diapason will not sound! =3DA0Another brief story about this organ-I = want=3D ed=3D20 to adjust the reverb-on the console there is a switch for reverb that = only=3D20 offers it to be ON or OFF. =3DA0I wanted to add more reverb so I checked = the=3D20 owners manual-under reverb it says, "contact your Allen Representative = for=3D20 reverb adjustments." =3DA0After that, I opened the back of the console to = find=3D a=3D20 clearly marked knob that says "reverb level." =3DA0All of these things = make me=3D =3D20 question the business ETHICS of electronic builders. =3DA0Why would there = be s=3D o=3D20 many borrowed ranks on an organ with no pipes????? =3DA0That is so cheap = and=3D20 stingy! =3DA0Why wouldn't the midi voices (these are my organ's life = savers)=3D20 couple to other divisions? =3DA0Why would they make you call an Allen=3D20 representative to have a silly little thumb screw turned a half inch? = =3DA0My=3D20 predecessor requested a back rest to be put on the bench, so Allen sent = one=3D20 (like a Schantz back rest-made out of 3 pieces of wood) and charged = 800=3D20 dollars! =3DA0A local craftsman could have made the same piece in 1 hour = time=3D20=3D for=3D20 a quarter the price-and with pride and love, not greed. =3DA0These = companies a=3D re=3D20 DISHONEST. =3DA0Their livelihood depends upon misleading naive organ = committee=3D s=3D20 who couldn't play a c major scale let alone a Bach Prelude and Fugue.=3D20 =3DA0Imagine a corporation convincing a 5 year old boy that a certain = stock=3D20 option is better than another. =3DA0=3DA0Electronic builders claim to have = authe=3D ntic=3D20 sounding stuff but the truth is that NOTHING can give the same sound as wind=3D =3D20 passing over the lips of a pipe. =3DA0Even lovers of electronic organs = know th=3D is=3D20 deep down. =3DA0That will never change. =3DA0There is no love or art in = digital=3D20 organs, they are not timeless, they are not beautiful, organists hate to = pla=3D y=3D20 them. =3DA0We need to get the message out that pipe organs are the answer = to=3D20 creating honest, true music. =3DA0Spending 400,000 now and having a fine = organ=3D =3D20 for many generations is better than spending 25,000 on a simple computer = in=3D20 an ugly cabinet that will need to be replaced as it becomes "out dated." I am sure that this letter will upset a few-sorry, but these are my = feelings=3D ,=3D20 I am sure that others share them. Gregory   --part1_17e.101d3e33.2adb1d28_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>Subj: <B>Re: = Johannus s=3D pecifications</B>=3D20 <BR>Date: 10/13/2002 1:28:16 PM Central Daylight Time=3D20 <BR>From: <A HREF=3D3D"mailto:Gfc234">Gfc234</A> =3D20 <BR>To: <A = HREF=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</=3D A> =3D20 <BR> =3D20 <BR> <BR> <BR>The pipe organ has been around for hundreds of years. =3DA0Its sounds = have=3D inspired musicians to practice and compose, and congregations to sing. = =3DA0I=3D ts size, power, and majesty awe all types of people, whether they are = organi=3D sts, violinists, businessmen or mechanics. =3DA0The PIPE organ offers = somethin=3D g of interest to all, whether it is its mechanism, whispering celeste = ranks,=3D thundering bombardes, or a beautiful facade. =3DA0Pipe organs beautify = the wo=3D rship space and give the opportunity for the congregation to have pride = and=3D20=3D joy while worshipping. =3DA0The pipe organ is a living and breathing = instrumen=3D t created by honest, hardworking craftsmen who LOVE their work and pride = the=3D mselves by making their instruments the best they can be. =3DA0I am a = senior i=3D n college earning an organ performance degree. =3DA0At school, I have a = large=3D20=3D Martin Ott tracker-action instrument at my disposal at all times. =3DA0She = is=3D20=3D a fine organ, and whenever there is a problem, Martin helps to solve it, = oft=3D en out of the goodness of his heart. =3DA0However, the church that I play = at h=3D as an Allen MDS8. =3DA0She will play a service OK, but has no character = and so=3D unds flat and ugly. =3DA0I question the business ethics of Allen. =3DA0I = think m=3D y church paid around 25,000 for this organ. =3DA0The great division has NO = REE=3D DS and German stop nomenclature. =3DA0It has a flute celeste and a wimpy = 16' g=3D edact which is BORROWED FROM THE SWELL. =3DA0The Swell division has French = sto=3D p nomenclature, =3DA03 ugly reeds, and ugly mixture, and a mediocre = sesquialte=3D ra and no 8' diapason. =3DA0The pedal division does not even have a 16' = prinzi=3D pal. =3DA0The foundation of the pedal is a 16' Bordun, the only other 16' = flue=3D in the pedal is a 16' gedact borrowed from the swell. =3DA0My organ does = have=3D a midi box which allows me to assign one additional rank to each division = o=3D f the organ. =3DA0However, these midi stops will not couple down. =3DA0For = examp=3D le, If I put an 8' open diapason on the swell midi channel and couple the = sw=3D ell to the great, that open diapason will not sound! =3DA0Another brief = story=3D20=3D about this organ-I wanted to adjust the reverb-on the console there is a = swi=3D tch for reverb that only offers it to be ON or OFF. =3DA0I wanted to add = more=3D20=3D reverb so I checked the owners manual-under reverb it says, "contact your = Al=3D len Representative for reverb adjustments." =3DA0After that, I opened the = back=3D of the console to find a clearly marked knob that says "reverb level." = =3DA0A=3D ll of these things make me question the business ETHICS of electronic = builde=3D rs. =3DA0Why would there be so many borrowed ranks on an organ with no = pipes??=3D ??? =3DA0That is so cheap and stingy! =3DA0Why wouldn't the midi voices = (these a=3D re my organ's life savers) couple to other divisions? =3DA0Why would they = make=3D you call an Allen representative to have a silly little thumb screw turned=3D20=3D a half inch? =3DA0My predecessor requested a back rest to be put on the = bench,=3D so Allen sent one (like a Schantz back rest-made out of 3 pieces of wood) = a=3D nd charged 800 dollars! =3DA0A local craftsman could have made the same = piece=3D20=3D in 1 hour time for a quarter the price-and with pride and love, not = greed.=3D20=3D =3DA0These companies are DISHONEST. =3DA0Their livelihood depends upon = misleadin=3D g naive organ committees who couldn't play a c major scale let alone a = Bach=3D20=3D Prelude and Fugue. =3DA0Imagine a corporation convincing a 5 year old boy = that=3D a certain stock option is better than another. =3DA0=3DA0Electronic = builders cl=3D aim to have authentic sounding stuff but the truth is that NOTHING can = give=3D20=3D the same sound as wind passing over the lips of a pipe. =3DA0Even lovers = of el=3D ectronic organs know this deep down. =3DA0That will never change. = =3DA0There is=3D20=3D no love or art in digital organs, they are not timeless, they are not = beauti=3D ful, organists hate to play them. =3DA0We need to get the message out that = pip=3D e organs are the answer to creating honest, true music. =3DA0Spending = 400,000=3D20=3D now and having a fine organ for many generations is better than spending = 25,=3D 000 on a simple computer in an ugly cabinet that will need to be replaced = as=3D it becomes "out dated." <BR>I am sure that this letter will upset a few-sorry, but these are my = feel=3D ings, I am sure that others share them. <BR>Gregory</FONT></HTML>   --part1_17e.101d3e33.2adb1d28_boundary--  
(back) Subject: music list From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 15:18:00 -0400   Zion Lutheran Church (ELCA) Hamilton, Ohio Oct. 13 Prelude: Benedictus Max Reger   Anthem: Great Is the Lord Michael W. Smith, arr. Jack Schrade= r Zion Men=B9s Quartet   Offertory: Rhythmic Trumpet Seth Bingham   Postlude: Nuages ensoleill=E9s sur le Cap N=E8gre Eug=E8ne Reuchsel   Hymns: Christ, Whose Glory Fills the Skies (Ratisbon) The Lord=B9s My Shepherd (Brother James' Air) He Leadeth Me=20     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu        
(back) Subject: Chicago Organs From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:23:22 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0128_01C272ED.FED08810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Dear Gregory,   Those of us who attended the OHS convention this past June in Chicago =3D saw a great many of those neat Organs. If you were not there, you might = =3D enjoy looking at http://www.organsociety.org/2002/index.html which I = =3D think will bring you right out to the Chicago Convention page. If not, =3D just click on "Conventions" and then on Chicago, and you can see the =3D schedule, and some neat pictures of many of the venues. This just =3D seconds your motion. He heard some fabulous instruments.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com   ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Gfc234@aol.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Johannus specifications     I am at Northern Illinois University-about 45 minutes west of the =3D Sears Tower. We have some neat organs in the Chicago area!.=3D20 Best,=3D20 Gregory ------=3D_NextPart_000_0128_01C272ED.FED08810 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dear Gregory,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Those of us who attended the OHS =3D convention this=3D20 past June in Chicago saw a great many of those neat Organs. If you were = =3D not=3D20 there, you might enjoy looking at&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.organsociety.org/2002/index.html">http://www.organsoci= =3D ety.org/2002/index.html</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 which I think will bring you right out to the Chicago Convention page. =3D If not,=3D20 just click on "Conventions" and then on Chicago, and you can see the =3D schedule,=3D20 and some neat pictures of many of the venues. This just seconds your =3D motion. He=3D20 heard some fabulous instruments.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Malcolm Wechsler</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.mander-organs.com">www.mander-organs.com</A></FONT></D= =3D IV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DGfc234@aol.com =3D href=3D3D"mailto:Gfc234@aol.com">Gfc234@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 13, 2002 = =3D 2:53=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Johannus=3D20 specifications</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3D2>I am at = =3D Northern=3D20 Illinois University-about 45 minutes west of the Sears Tower. &nbsp;We = =3D have=3D20 some neat organs in the Chicago area!. <BR>Best, <BR>Gregory</FONT>=3D20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0128_01C272ED.FED08810--