PipeChat Digest #3183 - Saturday, October 19, 2002
 
Re: Bolcom, Messiaen and Durufle
  by "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
RE: Bolcom, Messiaen and Durufle
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
RE: Bolcom, Messiaen and Durufle
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Bolcom, Messiaen and Durufle
  by "Jonathan" <jhumbert@ptd.net>
RE: Don't laugh at 3-rank organs
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Converting to Haskell
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Converting to Haskell
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
Re: Bolcom, Messiaen and Durufle
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Bolcom, Messiaen and Durufle
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Bolcom, Messiaen and Durufle From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 07:52:23 -0500   Glenda wrote: > > (3) Did anyone other than Durufle have a Suite opus 5? Any > recommendations for recordings on that one? >   I enjoy two recordings of this very much, one is at Riverside played by Virgil on a Capital release but there is also a release by O. Latry played at St. Etienne du Mont which is breath taking ! Not sure if it is still = in print, but I bet it is. The organ sounds very large on the recording and that is because IT IS ! If I were worthy of a grand funeral I would = request the toccata as a postlude, what a way to go ! I especially like the = first mov't of the suite and if there ever were a piece which conveyed the = dulled senses of a foggy night there it is !    
(back) Subject: RE: Bolcom, Messiaen and Durufle From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 12:47:35 -0400   > (3) Did anyone other than Durufle have a Suite opus 5? Any recommendations for recordings on that one?   I'd like to hear Todd Wilson's and any others-- but Virgil Fox's Riverside Church recording of the Durufle suite (on an LP of French organ music that has since been reissued as a CD) was my introduction to both the performer and the composer at about age 12, and it was rich and stunning, firing my imagination about everyone and everything involved for years. I still = think that he did a wonderful job with the whole disc, one of his best. He does make a cut in the toccata that, when discovering it, I thought was one of his own eccentricities, but later learned that Durufle had come to = recommend it himself.        
(back) Subject: RE: Bolcom, Messiaen and Durufle From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 12:29:28 -0500   (1) The Bolcom is great stuff - the recordings I have heard have been of the "O Zion Haste/How Firm a Foundation". These pieces are organ music. Surely someone has recorded a grouping of them. Craighead has been playing the "What a Friend" in recital the past year or so.   (2) While I have a lot of Fox recordings, mostly inherited from my friend, I do not happen to have one of his playing the Messiaen. I am most particularly interested in a recommendation of a good recording by someone of the Dieu parmi nous, because as I once wrote this list, that is the only Messiaen I have at this point come to like. However, I am not particularly interested in a complete collection of Messiaen.   (3) I DO have both the Fox and the Wilson recordings of the Durufle - I totally forgot about the Wilson CD. Thanks for reminding me!     Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com            
(back) Subject: Re: Bolcom, Messiaen and Durufle From: "Jonathan" <jhumbert@ptd.net> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 17:32:07 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0016_01C276CC.485919C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Glenda,   My favorite Durufle recording (although rather unauthentic, but =3D exciting) is John Scott at St. Paul's Cathedral, London, on the Hyperion = =3D label. This CD helped me learn to love Durufle's music.   Regards, Jonathan Humbert   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0016_01C276CC.485919C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2719.2200" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Bookman Old Style">Glenda,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Bookman Old Style"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Bookman Old Style">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; My favorite =3D Durufle=3D20 recording (although rather unauthentic, but exciting) is John Scott at =3D St.=3D20 Paul's Cathedral, London, on the Hyperion label.&nbsp; This CD helped me = =3D learn=3D20 to love Durufle's music.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Bookman Old Style"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Bookman Old Style">Regards,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Bookman Old Style">Jonathan =3D Humbert</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0016_01C276CC.485919C0--    
(back) Subject: RE: Don't laugh at 3-rank organs From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 20:05:48 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0001_01C276E1.C649A6F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Thanks, Steve - that's what I'm looking for in my home, a three-rank three-manual organ! But not this year.     Glenda Sutton   gksjd85@direcway.com         ------=3D_NextPart_000_0001_01C276E1.C649A6F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <html>   <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dus-ascii">     <meta name=3D3DGenerator content=3D3D"Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)">   <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Footlight MT Light"; panose-1:2 4 6 2 6 3 10 2 3 4;} @font-face {font-family:"Colonna MT"; panose-1:4 2 8 5 6 2 2 3 2 3;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} p.MsoEnvelopeReturn, li.MsoEnvelopeReturn, div.MsoEnvelopeReturn {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Footlight MT Light";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} p.MsoAutoSig, li.MsoAutoSig, div.MsoAutoSig {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle18 {font-family:Arial; color:blue; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none none;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style>   </head>   <body lang=3D3DEN-US link=3D3Dblue vlink=3D3Dpurple>   <div class=3D3DSection1>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks, Steve &#8211; that&#8217;s = =3D what I&#8217;m looking for in my home, a three-rank three-manual organ!&nbsp; But not =3D this year.</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>   <div>   <p class=3D3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue face=3D3D"Colonna = =3D MT"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Colonna =3D MT";color:blue'>Glenda</span></font><font color=3D3Dblue face=3D3D"Colonna MT"><span style=3D3D'font-family:"Colonna = =3D MT";color:blue'> Sutton</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue face=3D3D"Colonna = =3D MT"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Colonna =3D MT";color:blue'>gksjd85@direcway.com</span></font></p>   </div>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal style=3D3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3D3 =3D face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>   </div>   </body>   </html>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0001_01C276E1.C649A6F0--      
(back) Subject: Converting to Haskell From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 23:58:33 EDT     --part1_36.2f7e2581.2ae23269_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Today when the organ at First Baptist Gainesville FL was being tuned I was =   shown three of the bass pipes of the Principal 8 (pedal) which are mitred = and are collapsing at the top. The weight of the horizontal top section is causing it to sag and also to cause denting in the vertical section of the =   pipe where the brace is attached. I discussed the possibility of = converting these pipes from full length to Haskell. He felt it was a good solution = but has never made Haskell pipes.   I was wondering if anyone has, or knows of anyone who has, converted pipe from mitred to Haskell?   As PS, it was really exciting to play in-tune french reeds! They are = quite exciting. Because they are so temperamental we also discussed the possibility of adding tuning slides to the tops of the resonators as a solution to the precarious nature of tuning only on the wire. Has anyone = had experience with this?     Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_36.2f7e2581.2ae23269_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Today when the organ at = First Baptist Gainesville FL was being tuned I was shown three of the bass = pipes of the Principal 8 (pedal) which are mitred and are collapsing at = the top. &nbsp;&nbsp;The weight of the horizontal top section is causing = it to sag and also to cause denting in the vertical section of the pipe = where the brace is attached. &nbsp;&nbsp;I discussed the possibility of = converting these pipes from full length to Haskell. &nbsp;&nbsp;He felt it = was a good solution but has never made Haskell pipes. <BR> <BR>I was wondering if anyone has, or knows of anyone who has, converted = pipe from mitred to Haskell? <BR> <BR>As &nbsp;PS, it was really exciting to play in-tune french reeds! = &nbsp;&nbsp;They are quite exciting. &nbsp;&nbsp;Because they are so = temperamental we also discussed the possibility of adding tuning slides to = the tops of the resonators as a solution to the precarious nature of = tuning only on the wire. &nbsp;Has anyone had experience with this? &nbsp; <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_36.2f7e2581.2ae23269_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Converting to Haskell From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 23:07:43 -0500   You will have to have new pipes for "Haskells". The diameters of your current pipes will not work out. Is this by anychance a M=F6ller? If so you should probably just replace the pipes...some of their metal was too thin for the size of the pipe.   As to tuning slots in the tops of reeds....they should already be there. Is there a chance that they have not been rolled/curled out yet? check carefully, they may be scribed for scrolls already.     Jon B  
(back) Subject: Re: Bolcom, Messiaen and Durufle From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 01:20:57 EDT     --part1_9d.2fb3b0c4.2ae245b9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I have a recording of John Scott playing Mendelssohn at St. Paul's. It is =   wonderful, but because the organ is SO big, and the space so ample, the = inner voices of compositions are easily hidden and may sound blurry. I have Durufle recoeded at Coventry Cathedral by David M. Patrick. The organ = sounds wonderful but there is no stop list in the liner notes. Does anyone have = the stop list for Coventry? His prelude and fugue on ALAIN is wonderful! = Very clean playing and good sensible registrations overall. 3 Vierne Improvisations transcribed by Durufle are on the cd too. Good luck, Gregory   --part1_9d.2fb3b0c4.2ae245b9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I have a recording of = John Scott playing Mendelssohn at St. Paul's. &nbsp;It is wonderful, but = because the organ is SO big, and the space so ample, the inner voices of = compositions are easily hidden and may sound blurry. &nbsp;I have Durufle = recoeded at Coventry Cathedral by David M. Patrick. &nbsp;The organ sounds = wonderful but there is no stop list in the liner notes. &nbsp;Does anyone = have the stop list for Coventry? &nbsp;His prelude and fugue on ALAIN is = wonderful! &nbsp;Very clean playing and good sensible registrations = overall. &nbsp;3 Vierne Improvisations transcribed by Durufle are on the = cd too. <BR>Good luck, <BR>Gregory &nbsp;</FONT></HTML>   --part1_9d.2fb3b0c4.2ae245b9_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Bolcom, Messiaen and Durufle From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 01:24:13 EDT     --part1_6b.356762.2ae2467d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   here is david patrick's website-   http://www.impulse-music.co.uk/patrick.htm   --part1_6b.356762.2ae2467d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>here is david patrick's = website- <BR> <BR>http://www.impulse-music.co.uk/patrick.htm</FONT></HTML>   --part1_6b.356762.2ae2467d_boundary--