PipeChat Digest #3190 - Sunday, October 20, 2002
 
Re: PipeChat Digest #3188 - 10/19/02
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Converting to Haskell
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Haskelling
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Bolcom, Messiaen and Durufle
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Converting to Haskell
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Reed pipes
  by <OrganMD@aol.com>
NYC Organ Recital
  by "Christine Hoffman" <ch.hoffman@verizon.net>
3manual/3rank organ
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
Diode Question
  by <MyrtleBeachMusic@aol.com>
Re: Diode Question
  by "Blaine Ricketts" <blainericketts@attbi.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3188 - 10/19/02 From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:29:42 EDT     --part1_8c.200a7335.2ae2f086_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 10/19/02 10:54:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, = kzrev@rr1.net writes:     > How about better braces on the basses? That is, if the braces--perhaps = two > are needed for each pipe-- are secure and if they have a larger = "footprint" > on the lower end, then the weight will be distributed better. Or Bruce, > toss 'em out and stick in an 8' gedeckt. You don't need a principal = anyway! > <gdr> >   Me thinks you're pulling my low CC!!! I live by my principals!!! = ;-)   The concensus seems to be to send the pipes out to be repaired and then supporting them from above as well, possibly using triangular supports instead of a single brace.   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_8c.200a7335.2ae2f086_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 10/19/02 10:54:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kzrev@rr1.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">How about better = braces on the basses? &nbsp;That is, if the braces--perhaps two <BR>are needed for each pipe-- are secure and if they have a larger = "footprint" <BR>on the lower end, then the weight will be distributed better. &nbsp;Or = Bruce, <BR>toss 'em out and stick in an 8' gedeckt. &nbsp;You don't need a = principal anyway! <BR>&lt;gdr&gt; <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Me thinks you're pulling my low CC!!! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I = live by my principals!!! &nbsp;&nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>The concensus seems to be to send the pipes out to be repaired and = then supporting them from above as well, possibly using triangular = supports instead of a single brace. <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_8c.200a7335.2ae2f086_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Converting to Haskell From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:31:34 EDT     --part1_45.1efde705.2ae2f0f6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 10/19/02 10:55:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jlspeller@mindspring.com writes:     > The problem with your bass pipes is that they are made of > over-pure (and thus soft) electrolytic zinc. This is a very > common problem these days. One solution might be simply to > straighten them and to provide additional wooden racking to > support them. The Haskell solution might also work.   THanks, everyone. Which is your preferred solution?   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_45.1efde705.2ae2f0f6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 10/19/02 10:55:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jlspeller@mindspring.com = writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">The problem with = your bass pipes is that they are made of <BR>over-pure (and thus soft) electrolytic zinc. &nbsp;This is a very <BR>common problem these days. &nbsp;One solution might be simply to <BR>straighten them and to provide additional wooden racking to <BR>support them. &nbsp;The Haskell solution might also work. </FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" = LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>THanks, everyone. &nbsp;&nbsp;Which is your preferred solution? <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_45.1efde705.2ae2f0f6_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Haskelling From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:34:26 EDT     --part1_a2.2dceef43.2ae2f1a2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 10/19/02 12:25:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CNpipeorgn@aol.com writes:     > Bruce: Have you thought of contacting Casavant   um...err... well... duh.... yup! Just haven't done it yet. Maybe = they'll feel guilty and just send us new ones!!! heeheehee   Thanks in practicality.   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_a2.2dceef43.2ae2f1a2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 10/19/02 12:25:52 PM Eastern = Daylight Time, CNpipeorgn@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" = FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE = style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Bruce: &nbsp;Have you thought of contacting = <I>Casavant</I> ? </BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>um...err... well... duh.... yup! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Just haven't done = it yet. &nbsp;Maybe they'll feel guilty and just send us new ones!!! = heeheehee <BR> <BR>Thanks in practicality. <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a2.2dceef43.2ae2f1a2_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Bolcom, Messiaen and Durufle From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 15:07:47 -0400   great site!  
(back) Subject: Re: Converting to Haskell From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 09:27:18 +1300   it was really exciting to play in-tune french >> reeds! They are quite exciting. Because they are so >> temperamental we also discussed the possibility of adding >> tuning slides to the tops of the resonators as a solution >> to the precarious nature of tuning only on the wire. Has >> anyone had experience with this? > >It really isn't a good idea to tune reeds that were designed >to tune on the wire by using tuning slides, and vice versa. >This tends to make them even less stable than before, and >generally ruins the regulation. It would also be extremely >difficult to retrofit tuning slides to outwardly tapering >dead-length trumpet resonators and get them to stay in >place. My advice would be to attempt to live with your >reeds as they are, or if you can't do that to consider >having them completely rebuilt and revoiced to be more >stable, or even completely replaced with new reeds.   There is another choice, too. Send the shallots off to a reed-maker and = get new tongues put in, of harder brass and perhaps thicker, with a specific request that you want the reeds to be stable in tuning and tone. You might lose a bit of brilliance this way, but you may find the absence of future heartache worth it. Or, send the entire pipes back to the pipemaker for = this procedure so the reed voicer doesn't work blind as it were.   Re-tonguing reeds can be of enormous value.   Ross    
(back) Subject: Re: Reed pipes From: <OrganMD@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 19:03:56 EDT     --part1_a3.3070c5a0.2ae33edc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi all......   I must comment on this topic. Speaking as a veteran of the industry, if = you desire new tongues, crate up the pipes and send them. Do not, repeat do = not just send the old tongues and shallots unless you are prepared to become = an on site reed voicer yourself. There are too many variable factors = involved to get a good job in any other way.   David Broome & Co., and Sam Hughes are two names that come to my mind as folks capable of doing most anything that is possible to do with a set of reeds.   Bill   --part1_a3.3070c5a0.2ae33edc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Hi all......<BR> <BR> I must comment on this topic.&nbsp; Speaking as a veteran of the = industry,&nbsp; if you desire new tongues, crate up the pipes and send = them.&nbsp; Do not, repeat do not just send the old tongues and shallots = unless you are prepared to become an on site reed voicer yourself.&nbsp; = There are too many variable factors involved to get a good job in any = other way.<BR> <BR> David Broome &amp; Co., and Sam Hughes are two names that come to my mind = as folks capable of doing most anything that is possible to do with a set = of reeds.<BR> <BR> Bill</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a3.3070c5a0.2ae33edc_boundary--  
(back) Subject: NYC Organ Recital From: "Christine Hoffman" <ch.hoffman@verizon.net> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 22:33:32 -0400   SACRED MUSIC IN A SACRED SPACE presents K. SCOTT WARREN Associate Musician of the Church of St. Ignatius Loyola in an organ recital Sunday, November 3, 2002 at 4:00 pm Church of St. Ignatius Loyola 980 Park Avenue at 84th Street New York City   SACRED MUSIC IN A SACRED SPACE PRESENTS the second of a series of organ recitals celebrating the N.P. Mander organ's 10th anniversary at St. Ignatius Loyola during the 2002-2003 season. On Sunday, November 3, 2002 at 4:00 pm, K. Scott Warren, Associate Musician at St. Ignatius, will perform works of Bach, Buxtehude, de Grigny, Martin and Messiaen. Mr. Warren is also Director of Music and Organist at Immanuel Evangelical Lutheran Church and Associate Organist for Congregation Emanu-El.   The acclaimed Mander organ at St. Ignatius Loyola, inaugurated in 1993, "... has attracted the attention and won the admiration of music lovers from all around the world." (National Public Radio). The Church of St. Ignatius Loyola provides an ideal setting for organ music; located on Park Avenue at 84th Street, the church is renowned for its visual splendor and beautiful acoustics.   Tickets at the door are $20 or $15 for seniors and students. Advance- sale tickets are $15, $12 for seniors and students. Seating for the concert is general admission. Tickets may be purchased at the Church Parish House, 980 Park Avenue between 83rd and 84th Streets, any day between 9:00 a.m. and 9:00 p.m., by phone at (212) 288-2520, or online at www.saintignatiusloyola.org.   PROGRAM   Nicolas de Grigny: Ave maris stella Frank Martin: Agnus dei pour orgue Olivier Messiaen: Les corps glorieux: Combat de la mort et de la vie Dietrich Buxtehude: Ich dank dir, leiber Herre, BuxWV 194 Ich dank dir schon durch deinen Sohn, BuxWV 195 J.S. Bach: Prelude and Fugue in E-flat Major, BWV 552   K. Scott Warren, Associate Musician, joined the staff of the Church of St. Ignatius Loyola in the summer of 2001. He is the pianist for the Sunday evening Contemporary Mass, and plays the organ and piano for a variety of liturgies throughout the week. He made his Sacred Music in a Sacred Space debut in last season's French Romantics concert playing works of Saint-Saens, Massenet, and D'Indy.   Mr. Warren is also Director of Music and Organist at Immanuel Evangelical Lutheran Church and Associate Organist for Congregation Emanu-El in the City of New York.   A native of Dallas, Texas, Mr. Warren is a graduate of the University of North Texas, where he studied organ with Dr. Jesse E. Eschbach. While in Dallas, he was Organist and Associate Director of Music at the Highland Park United Methodist Church, the largest Methodist congregation in the nation. He also toured regionally as Keyboardist and Music Director with the Al "TNT" Braggs Show Band, a popular Dallas-based rhythm and blues revue.          
(back) Subject: 3manual/3rank organ From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 22:48:15 -0400   List, Glenda (gksjd85@direcway.com) wrote about wanting a three manual three = rank organ. That's not completely unattainable or impractical. I don't = have the link on my right now, but I tho't I had posted it earlier. = There's an article entitled "Small Three Manual Organs of the Romantic = Zenith". There's a link to it from the website of the late Julian Rhodes. = It gives a description of many small 3manual organs of <10 ranks. There = is one that is 3 manual 3 ranks. One that I really like is tthe = Kilkhampton organ that is 3 manuals 6 ranks. I'll try to find the link. = You might search Google for the link.   Sincerely, Keith Zimmerman, M.D. Commerce, Georgia  
(back) Subject: Diode Question From: <MyrtleBeachMusic@aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 01:52:08 EDT     --part1_5b.300e5fc6.2ae39e88_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Pardon what's probably a basic question. I've done lots of pipe organ = work, but have never had to deal with diodes until now. I'm in the process rewiring windchests and am supposed to install diodes on each magnet. The =   instruction I have is to install them "directly across each magnet" with = no further explanation. However, I notice on a few other chests in this = organ (which were modified a few years back), there are diodes with one end attached to the positive keying terminal (the customary nail by the = magnet) and the other end to a bare copper wire that runs the length of the chest = and is attached to the negative common return "hooks".   What/where is the best place to install the diodes? As soon as anyone can =   answer would be great as I'm heading back there tomorrow.   Thanks!   JR   --part1_5b.300e5fc6.2ae39e88_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Pardon what's probably a basic question.&nbsp; = I've done lots of pipe organ work, but have never had to deal with diodes = until now.&nbsp; I'm in the process rewiring windchests and am supposed to = install diodes on each magnet.&nbsp; The instruction I have is to install = them "directly across each magnet" with no further explanation.&nbsp; = However, I notice on a few other chests in this organ (which were modified = a few years back), there are diodes with one end attached to the positive = keying terminal (the customary nail by the magnet) and the other end to a = bare copper wire that runs the length of the chest and is attached to the = negative common return "hooks".<BR> <BR> What/where is the best place to install the diodes?&nbsp; As soon as = anyone can answer would be great as I'm heading back there tomorrow.<BR> <BR> Thanks!<BR> <BR> JR</FONT></HTML>   --part1_5b.300e5fc6.2ae39e88_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Diode Question From: "Blaine Ricketts" <blainericketts@attbi.com> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 01:02:37 -0700   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Are you installing a new transistor relay by chance.&nbsp; All but one manufacturer have back EMF diodes on their relays so you don't have to install them at the chest magnet. <p>BR <br>&nbsp; <p>MyrtleBeachMusic@aol.com wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE><font face=3D"Arial"><font = size=3D-1></font></font>&nbsp; <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>What/where is the best place to = install the diodes?&nbsp; As soon as anyone can answer would be great as I'm = heading back there tomorrow.</font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>Thanks!</font></font> <p><font face=3D"Arial"><font size=3D-1>JR</font></font></blockquote> </html>