PipeChat Digest #3197 - Sunday, October 27, 2002
 
5 manual organ
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: George and Seibert Losh
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
RE: 5 manual consoles for Canadian churches
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Casavant Opus#163
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca>
Hugh Knapton
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: 5 manual consoles for Canadian churches
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #3195 - 10/25/02 David barton
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
Re: 5 manual organ
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: 5 manual organ
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #3195 - 10/25/02 David barton
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Jesse Woodberry Organ
  by "Bob K." <rkinner@one.net>
Re: Jesse Woodberry Organ
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Jesse Woodberry Organ
  by "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: 5 manual organ From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:42:52 -0400   Andrew, there is the 5 manual von Beckerath at St. Joseph Oratory in Montreal, dedicated 13 November 1960 with a recital by Andre Marchal. However it is of mechanical action, not EP, and was built in Germany. While on that subject, does anyone know the whereabouts of Raymond Daveluy and Rachel Laurin, until most recently of that edifice, and who is there now? And does anyone know who took the place of Denis Bedard at St. Roch in Quebec City? And Daniel, thank you for the Casavant info. re: Nova Scotia, I hope to visit there next year. Judy Ollikkala Worcester MA  
(back) Subject: Re: George and Seibert Losh From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 08:46:12 -0500   David Fox's book gives the following   Karl Moyer wrote:   > George Losh: birth   born Perry County, PA, 1892   and death dates   died March 30 1975   Obituary in The Diapason August 1975.     > Seibert Losh   death date   January 1934 age 53   John Speller       > where lived; where died; where buried > names of wife and children > > One of these or perhaps a close relative lived in Hershey PA and was > responsible for several pipe organs there, including the organ from the = old > Edison recording studio moved to Derry Presbyterian Church in Hershey. = Can > anyoen comment on any of this? > > Is there any worthy writing about this firm and about these two men = which > might be available on line, for sale, or in book form for interlibrary = loan? > > Thanks for your help. > > Cordially, > > Dr. Karl E. Moyer > Lancaster PA > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: RE: 5 manual consoles for Canadian churches From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:43:40 -0500   Seb has raised a good question. Just how much does one use the fifth manual? I am curious, having been raised 5th-manual deprived (even 4th and sometimes 3d manual deprived). Am sincerely interested in a discussion of what works listers think requires or is facilitated by a fifth manual.   In the land that organbuilders forgot and the rest of the world has not improved,   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Casavant Opus#163 From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:29:08 -0400   THe Organ was Rebuilt by Francois Gendron ,A New Brunswick pipe Organ Specialist 43 years experience . thsi is according to the Paper . Have never heard of him b4 Daniel WH 2000 EP Biggs Fellow    
(back) Subject: Hugh Knapton From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:46:43 -0400   Yes Hugh Knapton is an Excellent Organ Builder Service Person He has done an Exceptional job on the Console rebuild of First Baptist Casavant opus # 1994 in Halifax NS. I have seen his work and he does very good work, I feel he is the = next Generation of the Maritime Organ Building History.He is gradually relocating to the Maritimes . With many of the Maritimes Pipe Organ s reaching the 50 year mark or older, Most have not seen much restoration = to them. He has an excellent chance with the need to restore these instruments.Its a Gold mine in some sence.THe majority of Churches in the Maritimes. Value there instruments and are very protective of them. Most = of the Organs have never been altered , and thsi really gives a rich history = of what these instruments sounded like for the era they were = built.Surprisingly alot of them are still fairly reliable. but do need restoration to extend there useful lifeI look forward to his relocation which is in Progress. thsi will give me a chance to do what I love to do as well. THe Pipe Organ is one of the most beautiful instruments in the world. ..Fortunatly there are people who recognize that, Look at thes groups for instance.Its us who have to look to the future and protect our rich = heritage .. Danielwh 2000 EP Biggs Fellow      
(back) Subject: Re: 5 manual consoles for Canadian churches From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 12:14:31 EDT     --part1_95.24b78f76.2aec1967_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I think that an organ with 7 or 8 divisions should have a fifth manual, particularly one with antiphonal divisions. In fact, I regularly play a = 1927 Casavant that could use one because it has a 2 division antiphonal organ. = I don't know about you guys, but I would rather move my hands to a different =   manual than scramble to hit pistons. If I had a five manual console, I = would use all the manuals in every service and recital I play! That's just me though, Have a good weekend, Gregory     --part1_95.24b78f76.2aec1967_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I think that an organ = with 7 or 8 divisions should have a fifth manual, particularly one with = antiphonal divisions. &nbsp;In fact, I regularly play a 1927 Casavant that = could use one because it has a 2 division antiphonal organ. &nbsp;I don't = know about you guys, but I would rather move my hands to a different = manual than scramble to hit pistons. &nbsp;If I had a five manual console, = I would use all the manuals in every service and recital I play! That's = just me though, <BR>Have a good weekend, <BR>Gregory <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_95.24b78f76.2aec1967_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3195 - 10/25/02 David barton From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:09:28 +0000   Thanks David for your questions. 1)The organ in my house is a two manual Viscount. 2) with regard to organ tuning in Greece - I expect that Athens has a contract with Klais. Our organ in Katerini is tuned every two years. Being = a good qaulity tracker action instrument it holds its tuning well, and there =   have been no mechanical problems. 3) (and a bit off topric) With regard to living in Greece, Ralph Downes = said more or less the same thing to me 15 years ago. "Well, you won't find many =   organs there!" I wanted a break and didn't plan on staying for more than 6 =   months or so, but if you have seen the film "Shirley Valentine" you might understand the attractions! A good climate - we had lunch in the garden today in the high 70's and I have been sunbathing on the beach this week, the relaxed approach to life,the high quality of services, the general feeling of safety. (A Greek American friend of mine with two young = children and parents in New York was asked by her mother if she planned to return = to the USA when there were a few problems in Kosovo and Serbia. "No! she = said! My children are far safer here. They can play in the streets from dawn to dusk and are unlikely to be shot at by a madman!) Where in England - or = the USA for that matter - can you get a decent 120 sq m. 8 room house for $200 = a month? A first rate meal out for $15 a head including good wine? (see my articles - Hotels and Restaurants in Pieria, Aithrio superb food and wine! =   *****) The world's first theatre organ may have been constructed just down =   the road from my house in Dion (The Hydraulus). This possibly predates the =   instrument in Alexandria, for it was from Dion that Alexander the Great = set out on his voyage of conquest, taking with him the cultural achievements = of Ancient Greece- music, theatre, literature and science. The Gods of = Olympus watch over us here - arguably the forerunners of christianity, for their hierarchical establishment is not dissimilar to that of the Christian = Church which succeeded them. 12 Gods - ruled over by Zeus - 12 Apostles under the =   Guidance of Christ, son of Jehovah. Temples built to the God of the sun (Ilios) on mountain tops changed allegiance to Elijah (Profitis Ilias), = and many pre Christian ceremonies were modified to take into account the "New" =   religion. "Where'ere you tread is Sacred, Hallowed Ground" said that great =   Philhellene Lord Byron in the Pilgrimage of Childe Harold. You cannot walk =   more than two yards without being in contact with "History". St Paul = visited the area, Alexander the Great was born nearby and trained arguably the = most successful army ever here, so this part of the world is redolent with History. And the food and company are good. Apart from my own organ, which =   is excellent for practising on, I frequently play at the Evangelical = Church, and annual visits to England take on an added dimension on the grounds of "absence makes the heart grow fonder." Sorry if I have wandered off topic = a bit, but this is a very rich and beautiful part of the world with much to offer. John Foss     www.johnfoss.gr         _________________________________________________________________ Broadband?=A0Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp    
(back) Subject: Re: 5 manual organ From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:01:27 -0400   Perhaps I'm missing something, but I've tended to agree with what I heard as a college student, that what you can't do on a four-manual organ = is not worth trying. The fifth manual on the five-manual consoles I've = played was more a nuisance than an asset.   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: Re: 5 manual organ From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:14:47 EDT     --part1_10.27652758.2aec51b7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Maybe you're right-I'm not trying to argue you know. Have a good weekend, Greg   --part1_10.27652758.2aec51b7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Maybe you're right-I'm = not trying to argue you know. <BR>Have a good weekend, <BR>Greg</FONT></HTML>   --part1_10.27652758.2aec51b7_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3195 - 10/25/02 David barton From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:17:52 EDT     --part1_185.10dc93db.2aec5270_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   John, I want to take a vacation! Peace, Greg   --part1_185.10dc93db.2aec5270_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>John, <BR>I want to take a vacation! <BR>Peace, <BR>Greg</FONT></HTML>   --part1_185.10dc93db.2aec5270_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Jesse Woodberry Organ From: "Bob K." <rkinner@one.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:46:07 -0400   Dear List,   I just crawled around an organ in an old church in Cincinnnati. It is a 2-manual tracker with a flat pedalboard, about 10 ranks - packed in like sardines. The builder's plate says "Jesse Woodberry Co., Boston" - no opus number. The church member who let me in says it was installed about 1900 and that he thought it was built in Germany and imported by Woodberry.   Anyone have any information about this organ or its builder?   Thanks, Bob -- "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." Mahatma Gandhi        
(back) Subject: Re: Jesse Woodberry Organ From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 19:58:26 -0400   On 10/26/02 5:46 PM, "Bob K." <rkinner@one.net> wrote:   > an old church in Cincinnnati   Bob, I can assure you that you're going to get a good answer from this unbelievable list. But your description (Oy, is THAT vague) is a bit, = just a bit, sparse. Surely the source(s) will be helped by knowing WHERE in Cincinnati, and what denomination, or architectural style, or SOMEthing!   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Jesse Woodberry Organ From: "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 22:49:02 -0500   Bob,   There was only one Jesse Woodberry organ installed in Cincinnati. It was installed in 1900 in Fergus Street Christian Church, now known as North = Side Christian. The Presbyterian Church in Crestline, OH had a Woodberry organ installed in 1888. Very few Woodberry organs are found outside of New England.   Sand Lawn