PipeChat Digest #3111 - Friday, September 6, 2002
 
Re: PipeChat Digest #3110 - 09/05/02
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
RE: Redundant organs in UK
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
English Organ
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
English Organ
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
RE: Organist position available
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Elec Organ List
  by "Dennis Goward" <dlgoward@qwest.net>
Re: Elec Organ List
  by "Teah" <teahzg@charter.net>
Re: I should have checked
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
Re: Organist position available
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
RE: Organist position available
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Redundant organs in UK
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
RE: Redundant organs in UK
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3110 - 09/05/02 From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 10:52:18 +0000     I studied the Franck Chorals with Downes and he was most insistent on my using the French edition. I do not have it to hand at this moment, but on what evidence do you base your theory that the registration markings are = not Franck's? I also had the privilege of playing the B minor choral to Madeleine Durufle on the 3 manual organ in her apartment - again, she was particular to emphasise "Franck's" registration and, particularly, the use =   of the swell box for accents. One notable french sound called for ny = Franck is the voix humaine with flute and tremulant - shades of the Wurlitzer and = a shock to English ears 30 years ago! John Foss   www.johnfoss.gr     _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com    
(back) Subject: RE: Redundant organs in UK From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:00:34 -0400   At 02:31 PM 9/4/2002 -0400, you wrote: >If you are thinking of re-installing British organs in American = churches-- >unfortunately, differing climatic conditions would militate against the >longevity of any instruments so transposed. European builders (the best >ones, anyway), must use different woods for organs that they build for = this >side of the Atlantic-- right, Malcolm? Because of these different >conditions, certain builders such as Marcussen have refused to attempt = this >at all. > Hi List,   There are a number of Hill, Norman & Beard instruments here in Ontario, = all of them problematic from day one. Unless they were built with dry = winters, central heating etc. in mind they usually didn't fare too well. The same can be said for some British pianos that crossed the pond into Ontario.   Regards,   Arie V.    
(back) Subject: English Organ From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:39:55 -0500   Several have asked: The organ I have in storge came to some antique store in Texas, as did several others, with the contents of "redundant churches" Several were rescued by Joe Blanton, and this is one of them. It is by an unknown builder from about 1900. 10 stops, 12'8" tall, 5'3" deep, and about 8' wide. All in a simple but nice pine carpenter gothic case with stenciled front pipes. Available restored and installed $65,000 Roy Redman    
(back) Subject: English Organ From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:40:22 -0500   Several have asked: The organ I have in storage came to some antique store in Texas, as did several others, with the contents of "redundant churches" Several were rescued by Joe Blanton, and this is one of them. It is by an unknown builder from about 1900. 10 stops, 12'8" tall, 5'3" deep, and about 8' wide. All in a simple but nice pine carpenter gothic case with stenciled front pipes. Available restored and installed $65,000 Roy Redman    
(back) Subject: RE: Organist position available From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:29:32 -0500   Man, I'd love a job like that, but it's a little far for my broom to fly!   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Hopkins ORGANIST - CHOIR/MUSIC DIRECTOR Trinity Anglican Church, Halifax Candidates must have an appreciation for Anglican liturgy and be willing to develop a church music program for adults and children. The organ is a three-manual Casavant (1929) and is in good repair. Salary is negotiable. Application may be sent to:   Organist - Choir Director Search Committee C/o Dorothy Hallas Trinity Church 5435 Cogswell Street Halifax, NS B3J 1R1 Phone: 423-7077; e-mail: trinity@supercity.ns.ca          
(back) Subject: Elec Organ List From: "Dennis Goward" <dlgoward@qwest.net> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:48:52 -0700   Anybody got an address or url for the electronic organ group? Thanks.   D      
(back) Subject: Re: Elec Organ List From: "Teah" <teahzg@charter.net> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:51:09 -0500   Yep, here ya go Dennis: http://www.gulfcst.com/eorg-l     Cheers,   Tim    
(back) Subject: Re: I should have checked From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:27:51 EDT     --part1_a7.262d5206.2aa95087_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Alan,   It was a pleasure to see you again at St. Luke's for Communion again 2 = weeks ago. Am I a member, yet? My next trip to New York is in January. Please =   send any special organ concerts during that month. My schedule is = flexible and I want to be able to attend at least one or two. (to all Pipe = Chatters) Lee   --part1_a7.262d5206.2aa95087_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Alan, <BR> <BR>It was a pleasure to see you again at St. Luke's for Communion again 2 = weeks ago. &nbsp;Am I a member, yet? &nbsp;My next trip to New York is in = January. &nbsp;Please send any special organ concerts during that month. = &nbsp;My schedule is flexible and I want to be able to attend at least one = or two. &nbsp;(to all Pipe Chatters) &nbsp;Lee </FONT></HTML>   --part1_a7.262d5206.2aa95087_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Organist position available From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:35:30 -0400   Try your magic carpet, dear! I take it you never did buy Rick the Harley, then.   Cheers,   Malcolm   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:29 PM Subject: RE: Organist position available     > Man, I'd love a job like that, but it's a little far for my broom to > fly! > > Glenda Sutton > gksjd85@direcway.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > Daniel Hopkins > > ORGANIST - CHOIR/MUSIC DIRECTOR > Trinity Anglican Church, Halifax        
(back) Subject: RE: Organist position available From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:38:03 -0500   Oh, yes, Malcolm, we have the Road King, remember? But that's still a long ride from Florida to Halifax on the Hog every week.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com (whose husband thinks she should have her own Sportster, and who is teaching the baby kitties to wear leather and do-rags and sit on the cycle)   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Malcolm Wechsler   Try your magic carpet, dear! I take it you never did buy Rick the Harley, then.          
(back) Subject: Re: Redundant organs in UK From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:01:18 -0400   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 2:31 PM Subject: RE: Redundant organs in UK     > If you are thinking of re-installing British organs in American = churches-- > unfortunately, differing climatic conditions would militate against the > longevity of any instruments so transposed. European builders (the best > ones, anyway), must use different woods for organs that they build for this > side of the Atlantic-- right, Malcolm? Because of these different > conditions, certain builders such as Marcussen have refused to attempt this > at all.   Hi Paul and List,   Not special woods, just special treatment. At Manders, in East London, = there is an enormous "drying plant," in which, *slowly*, wood is reduced to 8% moisture, and then slightly relaxed a bit before being sent into our = climate and our heating habits. The finest Quebec Pine is used for wood pipes and for other structures, and it and mahogany are used in the construction of chests. It does just fine here, of course. Some laminates are used for special purposes, and wood is sealed in ways that prevent warping and splitting.   Someone on the list alluded to all the Hill, Norman and Beard instruments = in Canada, and their propensity toward splitting themselves to death. I knew several of these during my years in Canada, and have probably mentioned something done by a friend of mine, leaving his appointment at the = Cathedral in Saskatoon, home to a very large Hill, Norman and Beard instrument. It = had given him no end of trouble all through his time there, trouble which included stop knobs coming off in his hand as he was trying to draw stops, but more nasty, a constant stream of cyphers, seemingly at least one bad = one each Sunday. He listed the postlude in the bulletin for his last Sunday at the Cathedral as "Cypher in G, by Hill, Norman & Beard." Traveling across Canada by car some years ago, I stopped in to see the place, and found a new-ish Casavant in place.   I think in that first part of the 20th century, many English could not believe that Americans not only had heat in their homes, but also in their churches! But more to the point, they had no experience with the drying effects of central heating on timber. All English and European builders fully understand this now, and one no longer hears about split chests and other troubles caused by drying. Our contract, by the way, specifically requires, under the terms of the warranty, that humidity must be kept at a reasonable level. We have urged (successfully) a number of churches with fierce forced air heating to install humidification systems.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com        
(back) Subject: RE: Redundant organs in UK From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:44:30 +0100   Hello,   I must stop rushing when I type things at the keyboard!   4 decades it should have been. :)   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK       -----Original Message----- From: "pipechat@pipechat.org" <pipechat@pipechat.org> on behalf of "jon = bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Sent: 04 September 2002 18:18 To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Re: Redundant organs in UK   Jon Bertschinger wrote (cruelly!)     If the U.K. was closer, and there was a bridge, I'm sure more organs would be saved. btw. did you really mean "40 decades"?=20 that would be 400 years. just wondering.