PipeChat Digest #3116 - Monday, September 9, 2002
 
Re: The Wedge recorded on CD
  by <AFberlin3@aol.com>
Re: Ken Cowan.. Monroe, LA
  by <AFberlin3@aol.com>
Re: The Wedge recorded on CD
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Bach: Wedge
  by "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org>
Chorzempa
  by "Kenneth Potter" <swell_shades@yahoo.com>
Re: Chorzempa
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: Chorzempa
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
RE: Chorzempa
  by <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
Re: Chorzempa
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Re: Chorzempa
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
RE: Jongen, Peeters, Whitlock, Rheinberger, Howells, Dupre
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
RE: Alternate tune name resource?
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
RE: Chorzempa
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Re: old records
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
 

(back) Subject: Re: The Wedge recorded on CD From: <AFberlin3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 07:14:11 EDT     --part1_34.2d15c279.2aaddc83_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/8/2002 10:26:39 PM W. Europe Daylight Time, pstorandt@okcu.edu writes:     > Daniel Chorzempa....Does anyone on this list know what happened to > him? I never seem to see him mentioned anymore. > >   Daniel lives in Florence, Italy where he does alot of music for the = theater. We got together when he played here in Berlin about 4 years ago or so.   Alexander Frey   --part1_34.2d15c279.2aaddc83_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 9/8/2002 10:26:39 PM W. = Europe Daylight Time, pstorandt@okcu.edu writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Daniel = Chorzempa....Does anyone on this list know what happened to <BR> him?&nbsp; I never seem to see him mentioned anymore.<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Daniel lives in Florence, Italy where he does alot of music for the = theater.&nbsp; We got together when he played here in Berlin about 4 years = ago or so. <BR> <BR> Alexander Frey</FONT></HTML>   --part1_34.2d15c279.2aaddc83_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Ken Cowan.. Monroe, LA From: <AFberlin3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 07:16:21 EDT     --part1_5b.2dab312b.2aaddd05_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/9/2002 6:56:46 AM W. Europe Daylight Time, glawn@jam.rr.com writes:     > thank you David for your kind wods.   A kind wod always lifts can hep a person through the rough tines.   --part1_5b.2dab312b.2aaddd05_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 9/9/2002 6:56:46 AM W. Europe = Daylight Time, glawn@jam.rr.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">thank you David = for your kind wods.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> A kind wod always lifts can hep a person through the rough = tines.</FONT></HTML>   --part1_5b.2dab312b.2aaddd05_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: The Wedge recorded on CD From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 09:33:57 -0400   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_2441602= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed   At 07:14 AM 9/9/2002 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 9/8/2002 10:26:39 PM W. Europe Daylight Time, >pstorandt@okcu.edu writes: > > >>Daniel Chorzempa....Does anyone on this list know what happened to >>him? I never seem to see him mentioned anymore. > > >Daniel lives in Florence, Italy where he does alot of music for the >theater. We got together when he played here in Berlin about 4 years ago =   >or so. > >Alexander Frey   Hi again,   Thanks for telling us what Daniel is up to. Is he still playing the organ? I take it that we won't be hearing any new organ recordings by = him.   His early Bach recodings, his Handel Organ Concertos, and his Liszt recording, I think are some of the best organ recordings ever made, both = in terms of sonic excellence and musicality. It is a pity that his later recordings sounded so static and cerebral. I believe most of his recordings were done on the Phillips label.   Cheers,   Arie V. --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_2441602= =3D=3D_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii"   <html> At 07:14 AM 9/9/2002 -0400, you wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite cite><font size=3D2>In a message dated 9/8/2002 10:26:39 PM W. Europe Daylight Time, pstorandt@okcu.edu writes:<br> <br> <br> <blockquote type=3Dcite cite>Daniel Chorzempa....Does anyone on this list know what happened to <br> him?&nbsp; I never seem to see him mentioned anymore.<br> </blockquote><br> <br> Daniel lives in Florence, Italy where he does alot of music for the theater.&nbsp; We got together when he played here in Berlin about 4 years ago or so. <br> <br> Alexander Frey</font><font face=3D"arial"> </blockquote><br> Hi again,<br> <br> Thanks for telling us what Daniel is up to.&nbsp; Is he still playing the organ?&nbsp; I take it that we won't be hearing any new organ recordings by him.<br> <br> His early Bach recodings, his Handel Organ Concertos, and his Liszt recording, I think are some of the best organ recordings ever made, both in terms of sonic excellence and musicality.&nbsp; It is a pity that his later recordings sounded so static and cerebral.&nbsp; I believe most of his recordings were done on the Phillips label.<br> <br> Cheers,<br> <br> Arie V.</font></html>   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_2441602= =3D=3D_.ALT--    
(back) Subject: Bach: Wedge From: "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:40:21 -0400   Glenda's inquiry about the Bach Prelude & Fugue in E-minor, "Wedge," BWV 548, led me to the irresistible exercise of going to the OHS Catalog = website http://www.ohscatalog.org and searching on the word "wedge". Eureka! Recordings by the following organists appeared:   John Ayer (Flentrop, Busch Hall, Harvard) William Porter (Fritts organ, Pacific Lutheran University, Tacoma) Marianne Webb (1971-1995 Reuter, Southern Illinois Univ.) Martin Jean (Sclicker/Dobson, Valparaiso Univ. Chapel) Marcel Dupr=E9 (British organs) Fernando Germani (Laurenskerk in Alkmaar, The Netherlands) George Ritchie (not the recording cited by Bruce Cornely, but Ritchie's = more recent recording on two Taylor & Boody organs)   A search on the number 548 (the BWV number of the Wedge), produced even more, including:   Michael Pohl (restored 1905 Sauer at the Berlin Dom) Robert Clark (1746 Hildebrandt, Naumburg, organ known to Bach) Thomas Berning (1730 Silbermann, Glauchau) Wolfgang R=FCbsam (1974 Flentrop, Oberlin) Joan Lippincott (Paul Fritts organ at Pacific Lutheran University, Tacoma) Bernard Lagac=E9 (Beckerath organ at Immaculate Conception Church, = Montreal)   Not appearing in either of these searches are two sets of the complete = Bach organ works, one by Lionel Rogg and the other by Helmut Walcha.   Which one? You could not be more *courant* than to have the Robert Clark recording from Naumburg, which, by the way, is among the top 5 selling CDs this year on the OHS website! The playing is elegant, and the organ, just restored, was built with Bach as a "consultant." Bach probably suggested Hildebrandt to build this organ. Bach and Gottfried Silbermann wrote reports on the completed organ, praising it. And, the University of Nebraska at Lincoln mounted a 5-day symposium last month at the organ in Naumburg with 90 participants in attendance (including lucky me) who were treated to this most unusual instrument (replete with original celeste!).   The new Fritts organ at Tacoma is magnificent, and there are two choices featuring this organ: Joan Lippincott and William Porter. I personally produced (on my Raven label) the recordings by George Ritchie and Martin Jean, and I like them both (of course!). The bargain price, fabulous = organ (Arlesheim) and solid, musical playing of Lionel Rogg's complete set make = it a clear choice for those seeking a complete set. Lagac=E9's long = association with the wonderful 3m Beckerath at Immaculate Conception Church in Montreal.make his complete survey very special, not the less because it = also contains the entire Well-Tempered Clavier and Goldberg Variations played = on the organ, as well as the bona fide organ works, all on 22 CDs, each of which may be purchased separately, but at a very low price if purchased all-at-once. He and that Beckerath seem made for each other.   Bill    
(back) Subject: Chorzempa From: "Kenneth Potter" <swell_shades@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 09:18:41 -0700 (PDT)     Arie wrote:   >Daniel Chorzempa....Does anyone on this list know what happened to >him? I never seem to see him mentioned anymore.   For many years Chorzempa lived in the Netherlands and performed and recorded mostly in Europe. A quick Google search reveals that he is still keeping up a busy and impressive performing schedule there. This year he released a recording of three Beethoven Sonatas on piano.   I agree he is a very exciting and rock solid performer, and we don't see much in the way of organ recordings from him these days. He was one of my favorite organists back around the 80's. I have a bunch of vinyl of him but no cd's. I seldom play my vinyl cuz my turntable is stacked high with cd cases that I have been meaning to put away.   Ken     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Kenneth Potter, Organist/Director of Music St. Peter's Episcopal Church, Westchester Square, Bronx, NY 845/358-2528 <swell_shades@yahoo.com>, Austin Op. 2097 at: = http://www.nycago.org/Organs/html/StPetersEpBronx.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Chorzempa From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 12:23:28 -0400   On 9/9/02 12:18 PM, "Kenneth Potter" <swell_shades@yahoo.com> wrote:   > I seldom play my vinyl cuz my turntable is > stacked high with cd cases that I have been meaning to put away. > I didn't know I had a twin brother out there, but obviously I do.   Alan    
(back) Subject: RE: Chorzempa From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:25:29 -0500   No to mention all us cousins....   -----Original Message----- From: Alan Freed [mailto:acfreed0904@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:23 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Chorzempa     On 9/9/02 12:18 PM, "Kenneth Potter" <swell_shades@yahoo.com> wrote:   > I seldom play my vinyl cuz my turntable is > stacked high with cd cases that I have been meaning to put away. > I didn't know I had a twin brother out there, but obviously I do.   Alan     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: RE: Chorzempa From: <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 12:17:01 -0500   <raises hand>   Why, that's to keep the dust off the dust cover, of course! ;-)   At 11:25 AM 9/9/2002 -0500, you wrote: >No to mention all us cousins.... > >-----Original Message----- >From: Alan Freed [mailto:acfreed0904@earthlink.net] >Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:23 AM >To: PipeChat >Subject: Re: Chorzempa > > >On 9/9/02 12:18 PM, "Kenneth Potter" <swell_shades@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I seldom play my vinyl cuz my turntable is > > stacked high with cd cases that I have been meaning to put away. > > >I didn't know I had a twin brother out there, but obviously I do. > >Alan >    
(back) Subject: Re: Chorzempa From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 14:08:02 -0400   At 12:23 PM 9/9/2002 -0400, you wrote: >On 9/9/02 12:18 PM, "Kenneth Potter" <swell_shades@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I seldom play my vinyl cuz my turntable is > > stacked high with cd cases that I have been meaning to put away. > > >I didn't know I had a twin brother out there, but obviously I do. > >Alan > Hi,   I go one step further, my CD player sits on top of my turntable, with a Cassette deck on top of that. I'm just too lazy to move them off to spin any vinyl. Just when I am home all by myself and a bit nostagic do I play =   record anymore, and then I really enjoy them. If I was more of a = committed audiophile I think I would play records most of the time.   Arie V.    
(back) Subject: Re: Chorzempa From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 15:40:04 -0400   At 09:18 AM 9/9/2002 -0700, you wrote:   >Arie wrote: > > >Daniel Chorzempa....Does anyone on this list know what happened to > >him? I never seem to see him mentioned anymore. > >For many years Chorzempa lived in the Netherlands and performed and >recorded mostly in Europe. A quick Google search reveals that he is >still keeping up a busy and impressive performing schedule there. This >year he released a recording of three Beethoven Sonatas on piano. > >I agree he is a very exciting and rock solid performer, and we don't >see much in the way of organ recordings from him these days. He was >one of my favorite organists back around the 80's. I have a bunch of >vinyl of him but no cd's. I seldom play my vinyl cuz my turntable is >stacked high with cd cases that I have been meaning to put away. > >Ken > Ken,   If I am not mistaken, this recording of the 3 most famous Beethoven = sonatas is an old one he did in the late 70s. If his piano technique is anywhere near as good as his organ technique, it is likely a very good recording. Maybe I will pick one up.   I do wish that Phillips would re-issue his performance of some Liszt works =   that he did on the Flentrop in the Doelen concert hall. The best Liszt I ever heard on an organ.   Another recording by him that is good are the Mozart organ works and the Church Sonatas. Very listenable.   Arie V.    
(back) Subject: RE: Jongen, Peeters, Whitlock, Rheinberger, Howells, Dupre From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:32:42 -0400   Peeters:   After hearing a recording, I bought a copy of his Elegie, op. 38, a year ago. It's a very solemn and wrenching lament that builds from p to ff = then back down to pp. Most, of not all, is over a single pedal point. He = wrote it in memory of his mother. I didn't think that Peeters could write anything so, well, emotional. It's sheet music from a French publisher. Theodore Presser in King of Prussia, Pa. (formerly in Bryn Mawr) should = have it in stock.   Another piece by Peeters that I haven't learned but should is a toccata on Ave Maris Stella, op. 28. I bought my copy quite a few years ago while wandering around in the neighborhood of the University of Chicago-- which, being a great university, has surrounded itself with an interesting neighborhood including at least one used book store. I don't remember = what else, if anything, I found of interest in there, but here was this copy of = a Peeters piece that I had never heard of before, nicely bound and labeled = in a red folder by a former owner. Not only did this item look very interesting musically, but according to the signature, this former owner = was Hans Klotz. I've always wondered how something once belonging to this German authority found its way to a used book dealer in southern Chicago.   Rheinberger:   My all-time favorite Rheinberger piece continues to be his sonata no. 7, = if f minor, op. 127. E. Power Biggs recorded it on the Steinmeyer organ in = the Deutsches Museum, Munich, in the 1950s.   Dupre:   If you have Dupre's 15 antiphons, then you probably know the two short toccatas in it. Another famous short toccata of Dupre is Placulis servulis, in the Tombeau de Titelouze. It is for All Saints' = Day. I am also quite fond of the Carillon, in Sept Pieces (once published by = H.W. Gray. Heaven knows who, if anyone, handles it now.)   Others:   Possibly reminiscent of Jongen is Ermend Bonnal. The Vallee de Behorleguy (from Paysages Euskariens) is a soft, melodic piece with a unique atmosphere.   Do you know the Toccata by Marius Monnikendam (H.W. Gray Saint Cecilia Series)? It's intense and effective, but not terribly long or difficult.   Good luck with your explorations. It sounds as though you are having fun.   Paul >  
(back) Subject: RE: Alternate tune name resource? From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:38:39 -0400   Are you familiar with Hymns and Tunes, by Katherine Smith Diehl? I have found it an indispensible resource, although dating from the 1960s it is becoming obsolete in terms of covering currently used hymnals. It has indexes by first line, tune name, author, composer, and melody (solfa). There are numerous cross-references to alternate names or versions. I was hoping in the early 80s to publish a supplement myself, but never got it together. Now, with respect to the tunes, there is no need, because = DeWitt Wasson has done so quite encyclopedically in his new three-volume work, "Hymntune Index and Related Hymn Materials." It's pricey, but music libraries, at least, should have it.   Both Diehl and Wasson are published by Scarecrow Press.       > -----Original Message----- > From: Pepehomer@aol.com [SMTP:Pepehomer@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 9:30 PM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Alternate tune name resource? > > I am looking for an index or resource that has names of hymn tunes and = the > exact other hymn tunes that are used elsewhere. For example, the tune > "Gethemane" in the Lutheran hymnals is known as "Ajalon" in others. Is > there such an index? Thanks! > > Justin Karch > Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS > Rome, GA > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: RE: Chorzempa From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:31:45 -0400   Robert: That's fine if you're late. There's plenty of one man jobs to be done by myself before and after you leave. There is a possibility that we will be finished with the tuning in one day so bring along a blank = invoice. I'm all for getting this done asap. Remember, this is not a full tuning, just a thorough tuning. In fact if it's hot enough in the Church I may not touch the reeds and leave them until just before the concert or the rehearsal.   See you later. AjM   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of = Arie Vandenberg Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:08 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Chorzempa   At 12:23 PM 9/9/2002 -0400, you wrote: >On 9/9/02 12:18 PM, "Kenneth Potter" <swell_shades@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I seldom play my vinyl cuz my turntable is > > stacked high with cd cases that I have been meaning to put away. > > >I didn't know I had a twin brother out there, but obviously I do. > >Alan > Hi,   I go one step further, my CD player sits on top of my turntable, with a Cassette deck on top of that. I'm just too lazy to move them off to spin any vinyl. Just when I am home all by myself and a bit nostagic do I play record anymore, and then I really enjoy them. If I was more of a = committed audiophile I think I would play records most of the time.   Arie V.     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: old records From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:38:35 +1200   I've found that it's no use putting things on top of other things I want = to use, so I endeavour never to put anything on top of the CD player or the turntable. It helps, too, I've found, to have more than one stereo set. I have the huge one in my "barn", another in the study, and a third in the living-room. Old vinyl still makes a good sound, and I've got lp's dating back to 1949, with at least 25 from 1950 - mostly English Deccas. Think of some of the = old lp's. Some of my organ favourites, which I still play, include things like this - Bach on the Biggest (Atlantic City Stadium organ) The Chicago Stadium organ Reg Foort at the Mosque Theatre Flor Peeters at Zwolle many of Helmut Walcha on old organs The Philippine bamboo organ The Sion organ, Switzerland Fox at Wanamaker Store The Great Cathedral Organ series from the UK complete Bach, Rogg at Zurich complete Bach, Kraft all over the place Biggs's Art of the Organ.   and so on.   In addition to my 12,500 lp's, I have about 1200 45rpm's. And beyond that, = I have about 2500 78rpm's. I play the 78s on the 1955 "Pye Black Box" = (special 78 diamond needle), or the 1923 phonograph (big floor model with long = horn), or the portable 1912 Decca. New needles are dead easy to get here in NZ = for both lp's and 78s. The 78 needles are made in Dundee, but I have boxes and boxes of the old ones still.   My younger friends (I'm 60) really enjoy an evening of music from the old vinyl and 78s, whatever the music. Here in Wellington, they're still = selling new vinyl of pop music (not for me, that stuff, though) at $10 a record.   Finally, remember the question of Peter Sellers, "Dear Sir, I have this round black thing about a foot in diameter. It has a small hole in the middle and is about an sixteenth of an inch thick. Would this be a = record?"   Regards, Ross (in NZ)     >I go one step further, my CD player sits on top of my turntable, with a >Cassette deck on top of that. I'm just too lazy to move them off to spin >any vinyl. Just when I am home all by myself and a bit nostagic do I = play >record anymore, and then I really enjoy them. If I was more of a = committed >audiophile I think I would play records most of the time. > >Arie V.