PipeChat Digest #3121 - Wednesday, September 11, 2002
 
Re: New Member's Saga of getting an organ.
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD
  by <Hell-Felix@t-online.de>
Re: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD
  by "G. Deboer" <gdeboer@bluemarble.net>
Re: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
RE: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: New Member's Saga of getting an organ. From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:25:40 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0008_01C259A7.7CA517C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Dear Keith, Well I guess I'm not the only guy with an obsession for organs =3D somewhat doubting my sanity. I never felt that I wanted a pipe organ =3D since my experience with pipes versus electronics found pipes not as =3D dependable and quite costly maintenance wise. ( To the list please lets = =3D not get started on the maintenance theme versus/versus). I never would have had any interest in organs at all if it not were = =3D for a Hammond Spinet (M-3) that my parents purchased for me at the age =3D of 15. From there it was lessons and search for a full two manual 32 =3D pedal AGO organ I could practice on. For many years I played on many =3D other church's organs but never had an actual full two manual AGO =3D pedalboard. Right after I was commissioned in the Air Force, my mother =3D shipped me my M-3 which I immediately traded in for an A-100. (1964) I =3D had that organ until 1983 when a Allen Carousel, two full manuals but =3D "Princess" pedalboard became available. In 1996 I heard of an Allen =3D Custom IV available at a church not too far away. My son was attending = =3D a local college nearby. He and I cut and numbered about 360 some wires =3D used to key the oscillators and marked all the other sundry wires.The =3D following weekend, I and about 6 other large men took the organ console = =3D and relay box off the choirloft with the assistance of the men from =3D Zimmer and Son who were installing the new pipe organ. (Thank God for =3D their lift) I then had 6 large men put this thing in the living room and = =3D the relay box down into the cellar. I then spent two days hooking up all = =3D the wires (only two mistakes) Three weeks ago I purchased a Allen =3D Theatre III and all the Allen Custom IV had to be removed. At 61, after = =3D three kids college education, paying off the mortgage, a new roof on the = =3D house, a new heating system Dad finally did it. I don;t even feel like I = =3D am spoiling myself. I actually feel I have to pinch myself every time I = =3D walk through the living room or get away from the organ bench. Last =3D weekend I won quite a bit of money at Atlantic City. God it can;t get =3D much better. God's Will be done. Paul ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Kzimmer0817@aol.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:59 PM Subject: New Member's Saga of getting an organ.     Dear List,   I apologize up front for the length of this message. I won't make =3D this a habit. =3D20   I was on Pipechat and Piporg-L about 4 years ago. I posted =3D numerous messages and questions, and, I think, I behaved myself for the = =3D most part. I unsubscribed from the pipe organ groups so that I wouldn't = =3D keep torturing myself trying to get a pipe organ. I guess the desire to = =3D have a pipe organ had become an idol to me. I sealed up my box of pipe = =3D organ paraphernalia - including some excelent and educational advice =3D from Rich Schneider, Chris Feiereisen, Bruce Cornely, Ken List, Larry =3D Chance, and a few others - to be reopened some day when my children were = =3D grown and I could begin my hobby.   I was tempted again last year when I discovered the =3D www.keyboardtrader.com website. A few months ago there was a 10 rank =3D Austin Opus 1440 for sale in Gainesville, Florida. Knowing ol' Bruce =3D lived there, I asked him to go check it out. He encouraged me to pursue = =3D it. The unanswered question was "how" to go about it.   I was attending a Pediatric Conference in Kiawah (next to =3D Charleston, SC). Our route would take us thru Columbia, SC where a =3D beautiful 4 rank Wicks was for sale. Surprisingly, my wife suggested =3D that we stop to see it on our way. Unfortunately, it sold a week before = =3D our trip. I very sheepishly asked if we could leave Kiawah right after = =3D my last meeting and travel the 6 hours to Gainesville to see the Austin =3D (would cost us $40 for hotel room instead of the $150 we would spend for = =3D the add'l night in Kiawah). She agreed.   While in Charleston, I spent a very informative and interesting = =3D afternoon with Allan Ontko of Ontko and Young Pipe Organs. As it turns = =3D out, he will be installing a new organ in a West Georgia Church which =3D happens to be attended by a friend of mine. His traveling route will =3D take him within about 2 miles of my house. I've asked if he would allow = =3D me to come along when he installs it and provide some free labor in =3D return for the advice he's given me in my decision to purchase this =3D organ.   I had never met Bruce Cornely, tho' we had built an good =3D "e-friendship" thru our frequent online communications about organs. In = =3D return for some fine dining, he arranged an informative tour of some of = =3D Gainesville's organs. I got to play three trackers for the first time =3D in my life. I even came to appreciate the versatility of a single =3D manual/pedal tracker with divided keyboard!   The Austin had been installed along two walls of the owner's =3D garage since 1972. Since the owner's death a few years ago, the organ =3D had been unplayed. Mud daubers had taken up residence in many of the =3D pipes. The organ had numerous dead note and a few ciphers. My wife =3D fell in love with the beautiful oak console.   Due to the amount of work I estimated that needed to be done, I = =3D made an offer of 40% of the asking price, which was not immediately =3D accepted. A few weeks later, I received an e-mail accepting my offer.   Last Thursday afternoon, my Dad and I set out in a 24' U-Haul =3D aimed for Gainesville to pick up a pipe organ. I had built 11 pipe =3D crates and purchased labels and baggies in which to put labelled bolts =3D and other parts. Just after entering Florida (around 11 p.m.) my wife =3D phones me to tell me that our 13 year old son broke his ankle playing =3D football, but was OK.   After running a few errands in Gainesville Friday morning, we =3D finally started packing up pipes around 9:45. I had hoped to test each = =3D note and put a different colored sticker by the toehole depending upon =3D whether the ciphered or didn't work at all. After testing one rank with = =3D my dad having difficulty figuring out every other key (it was a diatonic = =3D !\/! - shaped pipe layout) I decided "to heck with it". We just packed = =3D up the pipes. I hadn't even tho't about eats and drinks. We were =3D dripping with sweat. The seller gave us some ice and water. I was also = =3D trying to label each hose and cable. Again, it got too complicated, so I = =3D just cut them. Eight ranks of the organ are straight with only two =3D ranks being unified, so I figured the rewiring will be pretty =3D straightforward. =3D20   By around 4:30, we were hot, hungry, thirsty, soaking wet, =3D absolutely filthy, and fatigued. The 3 rank pitman chest, 3 unit =3D chests, and pipes were loaded. We had no other transportation, since we = =3D didn't want to move the truck. I sheepishly phoned Bruce and bribed him = =3D with dinner if he would come pick us up, take us to our motel, and drive = =3D us to dinner - which he did.   In return for breakfast (hope I'm not making Bruce sound bad) =3D he helped us Saturday morning. All that remained were the console, a =3D movable platform, the 5 rank pitman chest, and the huge blower. We =3D managed to get it all loaded by about 10:15 a.m. and were on our way.   I managed to get a few friends from church to come over this =3D evening to help unload it all into the basement. Needless to say, I'm a = =3D little overwhelmed, wondering if I've bitten off more than I can chew. = =3D I'm excited, though. For those of you who remember my postings, you can = =3D probably appreciate how excited I am to actually have a pipe organ after = =3D coveting one for 35 years!?! I'm a little worn out as well. I didn't =3D sleep well for 2 nights in anticipation of the trip. I didn't sleep =3D well for the two nights down there. Fortunately, I wasn't swamped at =3D the office these past two days.   I will certainly be posing some questions. I will try to be =3D good and search the archives before I ask the obvious. I was =3D particularly surprised by the thread about wiring up the blower; I =3D tho't I'd just run a 220v line from my main panel to the basement and =3D hook it up. O well.   I'm posting a second message with the information specific to =3D the organ.   Thanks for sharing my excitement.   Keith Zimmerman, M.D. Commerce, Georgia=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0008_01C259A7.7CA517C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dear Keith,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Well I guess = =3D I'm not the=3D20 only guy with an obsession for organs somewhat doubting my sanity. I =3D never felt=3D20 that I wanted a pipe organ since my experience with pipes versus =3D electronics=3D20 found pipes not as dependable and quite costly maintenance wise. ( To =3D the list=3D20 please lets not get started on the maintenance theme=3D20 versus/versus).</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I never = would =3D have had any=3D20 interest in organs at all if it not were for a Hammond Spinet (M-3) that = =3D my=3D20 parents purchased for me at the age of 15. From there it was lessons and = =3D search=3D20 for a full two manual 32 pedal AGO organ I could practice on. For many =3D years I=3D20 played on many other church's organs but never had an actual full two =3D manual AGO=3D20 pedalboard. Right after I was commissioned in the Air Force, my mother =3D shipped=3D20 me my M-3 which I immediately traded in for an A-100. (1964) I had that = =3D organ=3D20 until 1983 when a Allen Carousel, two full manuals but "Princess" =3D pedalboard=3D20 became available. In 1996 I heard of an Allen Custom IV available at = a=3D20 church&nbsp; not too far away. My son was attending a local college =3D nearby. He=3D20 and I cut and numbered about 360 some wires used to key the oscillators = =3D and=3D20 marked all the other sundry wires.The&nbsp;following weekend, I and =3D about 6=3D20 other large men took the organ console and relay box off the choirloft =3D with the=3D20 assistance of the men from Zimmer and Son who were installing the =3D new&nbsp;pipe=3D20 organ. (Thank God for their lift) I then had 6&nbsp;large men put this =3D thing in=3D20 the living room and the relay box down into the cellar. I then spent two = =3D days=3D20 hooking up all the wires (only two mistakes) &nbsp;Three weeks ago I =3D purchased a=3D20 Allen Theatre III and all the Allen Custom IV had to be removed. At 61, = =3D after=3D20 three kids college education, paying off the mortgage, a new roof on the = =3D house,=3D20 a new heating system Dad finally did it. I don;t even feel like I am =3D spoiling=3D20 myself. I actually feel I have to pinch myself every time I walk through = =3D the=3D20 living room or get away from the organ bench. Last weekend I won quite a = =3D bit of=3D20 money at Atlantic City. God it can;t get much better. God's Will be=3D20 done.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= =3D p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp= =3D ;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= =3D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&= =3D nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 Paul</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DKzimmer0817@aol.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Kzimmer0817@aol.com">Kzimmer0817@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 10, = =3D 2002 10:59=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> New Member's Saga of = =3D getting an=3D20 organ.</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 =3D face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">Dear List,<BR><BR>I apologize up front for the = =3D length of=3D20 this message.&nbsp; I won't make this a habit.&nbsp;=3D20 <BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I was on Pipechat and =3D Piporg-L=3D20 about 4 years ago.&nbsp; I posted numerous messages and questions, =3D and, I=3D20 think, I behaved myself for the most part.&nbsp; I unsubscribed from =3D the pipe=3D20 organ groups so that I wouldn't keep torturing myself trying to get a = =3D pipe=3D20 organ.&nbsp; I guess the desire to have a pipe organ had become an =3D idol to=3D20 me.&nbsp; I sealed up my box of pipe organ paraphernalia - including =3D some=3D20 excelent and educational advice from Rich Schneider, Chris Feiereisen, = =3D Bruce=3D20 Cornely, Ken List, Larry Chance, and a few others - to be reopened =3D some day=3D20 when my children were grown and I could begin my=3D20 hobby.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I was tempted again = =3D last=3D20 year when I discovered the www.keyboardtrader.com website.&nbsp; A few = =3D months=3D20 ago there was a 10 rank Austin Opus 1440 for sale in Gainesville,=3D20 Florida.&nbsp; Knowing ol' Bruce lived there, I asked him to go check = =3D it=3D20 out.&nbsp; He encouraged me to pursue it.&nbsp; The unanswered =3D question was=3D20 "how" to go about it.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I =3D was=3D20 attending a Pediatric Conference in Kiawah (next to Charleston, =3D SC).&nbsp; Our=3D20 route would take us thru Columbia, SC where a beautiful 4 rank Wicks =3D was for=3D20 sale.&nbsp; Surprisingly, my wife suggested that we stop to see it on = =3D our=3D20 way.&nbsp; Unfortunately, it sold a week before our trip.&nbsp; I very = =3D   sheepishly asked if we could leave Kiawah right after my last meeting = =3D and=3D20 travel the 6 hours to Gainesville to see the Austin (would cost us $40 = =3D for=3D20 hotel room instead of the $150 we would spend for the add'l night = in=3D20 Kiawah).&nbsp; She agreed.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = =3D While=3D20 in Charleston, I spent a very informative and interesting afternoon =3D with Allan=3D20 Ontko of Ontko and Young Pipe Organs.&nbsp; As it turns out, he will =3D be=3D20 installing a new organ in a West Georgia Church which happens to be =3D attended=3D20 by a friend of mine.&nbsp; His traveling route will take him within =3D about 2=3D20 miles of my house.&nbsp; I've asked if he would allow me to come along = =3D when he=3D20 installs it and provide some free labor in return for the advice he's = =3D given me=3D20 in my decision to purchase this=3D20 organ.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I had never met =3D Bruce=3D20 Cornely, tho' we had built an good "e-friendship" thru our frequent =3D online=3D20 communications about organs.&nbsp; In return for some fine dining, he = =3D arranged=3D20 an informative tour of some of Gainesville's organs.&nbsp; I got to =3D play three=3D20 trackers for the first time in my life.&nbsp; I even came to =3D appreciate the=3D20 versatility of a single manual/pedal tracker with divided=3D20 keyboard!<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The Austin had =3D been=3D20 installed along two walls of the owner's garage since 1972.&nbsp; =3D Since the=3D20 owner's death a few years ago, the organ had been unplayed.&nbsp; Mud = =3D daubers=3D20 had taken up residence in many of the pipes.&nbsp; The organ had =3D numerous dead=3D20 note and a few ciphers.&nbsp; My wife fell in love with the beautiful =3D oak=3D20 console.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Due to the amount = =3D of work=3D20 I estimated that needed to be done, I made an offer of 40% of the =3D asking=3D20 price, which was not immediately accepted.&nbsp; A few weeks later, I = =3D received=3D20 an e-mail accepting my =3D offer.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Last=3D20 Thursday afternoon, my Dad and I set out in a 24' U-Haul aimed for =3D Gainesville=3D20 to pick up a pipe organ.&nbsp; I had built 11 pipe crates and =3D purchased labels=3D20 and baggies in which to put labelled bolts and other parts.&nbsp; Just = =3D after=3D20 entering Florida (around 11 p.m.) my wife phones me to tell me that =3D our 13=3D20 year old son broke his ankle playing football, but was=3D20 OK.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; After running a few =3D errands in=3D20 Gainesville Friday morning, we finally started packing up pipes around = =3D   9:45.&nbsp; I had hoped to test each note and put a different colored = =3D sticker=3D20 by the toehole depending upon whether the ciphered or didn't work = at=3D20 all.&nbsp; After testing one rank with my dad having difficulty =3D figuring out=3D20 every other key (it was a diatonic !\/! - shaped pipe layout) I =3D decided "to=3D20 heck with it".&nbsp; We just packed up the pipes.&nbsp; I hadn't even = =3D tho't=3D20 about eats and drinks.&nbsp; We were dripping with sweat.&nbsp; The =3D seller=3D20 gave us some ice and water.&nbsp; I was also trying to label each hose = =3D and=3D20 cable. Again, it got too complicated, so I just cut them.&nbsp; Eight = =3D ranks of=3D20 the organ are straight with only two ranks being unified, so I figured = =3D the=3D20 rewiring will be pretty straightforward.&nbsp;=3D20 <BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; By around 4:30, we were =3D hot,=3D20 hungry, thirsty, soaking wet, absolutely filthy, and fatigued.&nbsp; =3D The 3=3D20 rank pitman chest, 3 unit chests, and pipes were loaded.&nbsp; We had = =3D no other=3D20 transportation, since we didn't want to move the truck.&nbsp; I =3D sheepishly=3D20 phoned Bruce and bribed him with dinner if he would come pick us up, =3D take us=3D20 to our motel, and drive us to dinner - which he=3D20 did.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In return for =3D breakfast (hope=3D20 I'm not making Bruce sound bad) he helped us Saturday morning.&nbsp; =3D All that=3D20 remained were the console, a movable platform, the 5 rank pitman =3D chest, and=3D20 the huge blower.&nbsp; We managed to get it all loaded by about 10:15 = =3D a.m. and=3D20 were on our way.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I managed = =3D to get=3D20 a few friends from church to come over this evening to help unload it = =3D all into=3D20 the basement.&nbsp; Needless to say, I'm a little overwhelmed, =3D wondering if=3D20 I've bitten off more than I can chew.&nbsp; I'm excited, though.&nbsp; = =3D For=3D20 those of you who remember my postings, you can probably appreciate how = =3D excited=3D20 I am to actually have a pipe organ after coveting one for 35 =3D years!?!&nbsp;=3D20 I'm a little worn out as well.&nbsp; I didn't sleep well for 2 nights = =3D in=3D20 anticipation of the trip.&nbsp; I didn't sleep well for the two nights = =3D down=3D20 there.&nbsp; Fortunately, I wasn't swamped at the office these past =3D two=3D20 days.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I will certainly be = =3D posing=3D20 some questions.&nbsp; I will try to be good and search the archives =3D before I=3D20 ask the obvious.&nbsp; I was particularly surprised by the thread =3D about wiring=3D20 up the blower;&nbsp; I tho't I'd just run a 220v line from my main =3D panel to=3D20 the basement and hook it up.&nbsp; O=3D20 well.<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm posting a second = =3D message=3D20 with the information specific to the organ.<BR><BR>Thanks for sharing = =3D my=3D20 excitement.<BR><BR>Keith Zimmerman, M.D.<BR>Commerce, = Georgia</FONT>=3D20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0008_01C259A7.7CA517C0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD From: <Hell-Felix@t-online.de> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:21:41 +0200 (CEST)   Thanks, Malcolm, for the clarification. A little additional clarification from my side: the Luebeck project, if it will be realized in Germany on an Arp Schnitger Organ, will not be subject of our cooperation with Reference Recordings. The project is pendant already more than a year, but because of other priorities we are a little bit behind with it. We hope, to record in spring 2003, so the CD would be released not earlier than May 2003. But this delay has an advantage also: we will be able to implement the newest knowledge about which works are definitely from Vincent Luebeck, the elder, and Vincent Luebeck, the younger. In so far I was not surprised to hear from Dr. Klaus Beckmann (author of the Breitkopf edition), that the F Major prelude, e.g., is with high probability from Vincent Luebeck, the younger, as well as the G Major prelude. But we will wait, what the official new Breitkopf edition will say in this regard.   Hans-Friedrich Hell   Malcolm Wechsler wrote:   > I spoke with Hans this morning, who says that one recording > will probably be the complete Luebeck (father and son both - > the Luebecks, NOT the Hells!). I am not sure that project is > public yet - I made reference to it in the review as an > idea in the back of Felix's mind, but I would not want anything > said about any commitments to anyone. That should come from them.  
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD From: "G. Deboer" <gdeboer@bluemarble.net> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:24:30 -0500   Dear list,   Has anyone from our ranks of professional organists (or nearly as good as) ever given any thought about recording on DVD instead of CD. I know it doesn't apply to everyone, but the vast majority of the = "regular" public does not care for organ music because in today's society we are conditioned to view simultaneously with listening. Samples are of course: Television, Live rock concerts, Live orchestra, any other single/solo instrument. DVD will also give much better sound than CD (DAC conversion at 24 bits vs 16 bits with CD) and we get the visual as well. Shouldn't cost much more = to produce either than CD, and if a little, would be well worth it. I believe this will be a very good way to hopefully get the average = concert attendee back into the folds of the organ recital, because his or her interest was rekindled when they saw that great performance on the last organ DVD they watched. How about it Felix ? You are of the younger generation and it is your caliber of performance that can make this turn-around a reality. How does anyone else feel about this ?   Gary     ----- Original Message ----- From: <Hell-Felix@t-online.de> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:21 PM Subject: Re: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD     > Thanks, Malcolm, for the clarification. A little additional > clarification from my side: the Luebeck project, if it will > be realized in Germany on an Arp Schnitger Organ, will not > be subject of our cooperation with Reference Recordings. > The project is pendant already more than a year, but because of > other priorities we are a little bit behind with it. We hope, > to record in spring 2003, so the CD would be released not earlier > than May 2003. But this delay has an advantage also: we will be able > to implement the newest knowledge about which works are definitely > from Vincent Luebeck, the elder, and Vincent Luebeck, the younger. > In so far I was not surprised to hear from Dr. Klaus Beckmann > (author of the Breitkopf edition), that the F Major prelude, e.g., > is with high probability from Vincent Luebeck, the younger, as well > as the G Major prelude. But we will wait, what the official new > Breitkopf edition will say in this regard. > > Hans-Friedrich Hell > > Malcolm Wechsler wrote: > > > I spoke with Hans this morning, who says that one recording > > will probably be the complete Luebeck (father and son both - > > the Luebecks, NOT the Hells!). I am not sure that project is > > public yet - I made reference to it in the review as an > > idea in the back of Felix's mind, but I would not want anything > > said about any commitments to anyone. That should come from them. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 18:18:09 -0400   At 04:24 PM 9/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Dear list, > >Has anyone from our ranks of professional organists (or nearly as good = as) >ever given any thought about recording on DVD instead of CD. >I know it doesn't apply to everyone, but the vast majority of the = "regular" >public does not care for organ music because in today's society we are >conditioned to view simultaneously with listening. >Samples are of course: Television, Live rock concerts, Live orchestra, = any >other single/solo instrument. >DVD will also give much better sound than CD (DAC conversion at 24 bits = vs >16 bits with CD) and we get the visual as well. Shouldn't cost much more = to >produce either than CD, and if a little, would be well worth it. >I believe this will be a very good way to hopefully get the average = concert >attendee back into the folds of the organ recital, because his or her >interest was rekindled when they saw that great performance on the last >organ DVD they watched. >How about it Felix ? You are of the younger generation and it is your >caliber of performance that can make this turn-around a reality. >How does anyone else feel about this ? > >Gary Gary and list,   It is true that DVDs, produced in quantity, won't cost much more than CDs.   However, DVDs with pictures, multi channel sound, probably won't sound any =   better than CD. The way I understand it, your average DVD player is for movies, and the sound is more for effects than critical musical enjoyment.   There is however a new DVD audio standard, which is actually a multi standard, and it can sound distinctly better, but I don't think there is any video on those. These disks are meant to be played on dedicated audio =   machines, and are at this time still expensive. Sony is also marketing their own SACD, which can sound incredible.   Whether, making DVDs, in pure audio format for the sonic benefits is a viable commercial proposition is another question. It seems that most of the world is happy enough with MP3, and CD. The typical classical CD now sells between 1000 and 5000 copies. Not many, when you consider how expensive it is to make a good recording. Classical CD stores are disappearing fast around here (Toronto), and most stores only have 1 or 2 bins of discs.   I am hoping that there will be improvements coming down the pipe, but I'm not holding my breath.   Arie V.    
(back) Subject: RE: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:48:30 -0500   Well, my heart is broken that Felix did not play the Trio Sonata No. 3!   Sulking,   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com