PipeChat Digest #3123 - Friday, September 13, 2002
 
Re: Catonsville MD
  by <Seedlac@aol.com>
Organ crawl on DVD? (was: Re: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD)
  by <LeliaLoban@aol.com>
Re: Organ crawl on DVD? (was: Re: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD)
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com>
Young Organists
  by "Josh & Amy Edwards" <fbcorganist@charter.net>
Re: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Mein gott, das herze bring ich dir
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Catonsville MD
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Mein gott, das herze bring ich dir
  by "Richard Jordan" <mail@gesangbuch.org>
Thematic catalog numbers
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
Re: Organ crawl on DVD? (was: Re: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD)
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
RE:  TOM LEHRER - OFF TOPIC
  by "Paul Austin" <paulaustin1@btopenworld.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Catonsville MD From: <Seedlac@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 05:33:47 EDT   The original chests are still in use as is the original layout. New stops were added to the great on a new chest, except for the Great Dolce, which = has been removed for another stop. All reeds, except the Great trumpet are virtually the same, if not the same as the original. This based on my = memory form servicing the instrument in the late 1970s and as recently as this = past spring. Steve Bartley  
(back) Subject: Organ crawl on DVD? (was: Re: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD) From: <LeliaLoban@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:04:49 EDT     G. Deboer wrote, >But the whole idea is not so much about improving >the sound as it is to add that extra dimension of the >visual. People today want to see things not just hear >about it.   Yes! Has anybody recorded a concert on DVD with an organ crawl as part of =   the package? I'd love to see and hear a first-rate concert on an historic =   pipe organ with a detailed show-and-tell.   Lelia Loban Lelia@aol.com AOL in the Washington, D. C. area automatically refuses all e-mail sent = from Yahoo.com addresses. Please complain!  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ crawl on DVD? (was: Re: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD) From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:48:00 -0400       LeliaLoban@aol.com wrote: >   > Yes! Has anybody recorded a concert on DVD with an organ crawl as part = of > the package? I'd love to see and hear a first-rate concert on an = historic > pipe organ with a detailed show-and-tell. >   http://www.zarex.com/bin/?zw_site_id=3D1&page=3Dshop/midnightpipes&product_= id=3D130&category_id=3D9d018b7250965e923399455fdfc36695&ps_session=3D5f456e= e6e47adbf8cb019cce663167cd   The link above is to the Midnight Pipes DVD of Frederick Hohman at The Great Organ of Methuen Memorial Music Hall.   I was very favorably impressed with the presentation which includes a tour through the organ by Bob Newton of Andover Organ Co.   The DVD is also available from OHS. http://www.ohscatalog.org/fredhohandme.html   Stan Lowkis    
(back) Subject: Young Organists From: "Josh & Amy Edwards" <fbcorganist@charter.net> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:00:53 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0001_01C25A3A.E66818E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I know there is sometimes a lot of talk on here about fascinating young organists, i.e. Felix Hell. Felix is a marvelous player and I respect him to the utmost.... but, I heard a concert the other night that totally took my breath away.... Cameron Carpenter, a student at Julliard, played a recital at Central Baptist Church, Bearden, in Knoxville, TN. It was absolutely breath-taking. His pedal technique was incredible. Does anyone have any comments on him? Josh in TN   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0001_01C25A3A.E66818E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dus-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE>   <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2719.2200" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D764525712-12092002><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I = know =3D there is=3D20 sometimes a lot of talk on here about fascinating young organists, i.e. = =3D Felix=3D20 Hell.&nbsp; Felix is a marvelous player and I respect him to the =3D utmost.... but,=3D20 I heard a concert the other night that totally took my breath=3D20 away....</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D764525712-12092002><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D764525712-12092002><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D size=3D3D2>Cameron Carpenter, a=3D20 student at Julliard, played a recital at Central Baptist Church, =3D Bearden, in=3D20 Knoxville, TN.&nbsp; It was absolutely breath-taking.&nbsp; His pedal =3D technique=3D20 was incredible.&nbsp; Does anyone have any comments on =3D him?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D764525712-12092002><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D764525712-12092002><FONT face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2>Josh =3D in=3D20 TN</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D764525712-12092002></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0001_01C25A3A.E66818E0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:44:13 -0400   At 08:01 PM 9/11/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Arie, > >But the whole idea is not so much about improving the sound as it is to = add >that extra dimension of the visual. People today want to see things not >just hear about it. >The best comparison I can think of is, how many more people watch and = listen >to television today than just listen to radio only. Just a year ago = today >people were glued to their television sets watching the NYC attacks, >listening to a radio announcer that day would have been vastly inferior. >Why do you think MTV is so popular with the younger crowd ? It is not = for >the music so much as it is for the visual. >I have VHS tapes of organ concerts (made privately), the sound is pumped >through an audio system simultaneously with the TV. The overall effect = is >definitely superior to just a standard CD. > >Gary Gary and list,   I understand where you are coming from, but I think the visual aspect may have to start at live concerts and recitals. The reason is that so many organ recitals, the audience is disconnected from the performer, because they can't see the artist or what he/she is doing at the keyboards. It would be helpful and interesting for the audience to follow the artist on = a monitor.   It is also true among younger people, they just can't sit still and = listen, they have to sit, watch and listen. Probably a product of TV and movies, and pop concerts. The problem with organ music, or at least a lot of it, it requires concentration over a long period of time. Just think of = Bach's major works, without understanding and/or concentration, these pieces are boring to a lot of people. I think that is an area where the general public and the organ world are disconnected. At any organ recital, you will find the vast majority of attendees being old folks. The problem is getting young folk interested. Maybe video at concerts, and DVDs is a start in that direction.   Also, I don't think that the world is going to all of a sudden go to organ =   music, just because a wunderkind organist is going to put out a disc of Vincent Luebeck organ hits on DVD. It will need to be much more popular music than that.   Just my thoughts,   Arie V.    
(back) Subject: Mein gott, das herze bring ich dir From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:56:13 -0400     Can anyone tell me where to find the tune and especially the words to the chorale "Mein gott, das herze bring ich dir", which Johann Ludwig Krebs = set as a chorale prelude? In German would be OK     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: Catonsville MD From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:11:54 -0500   ----- Original Message ----- From: <Seedlac@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 4:33 AM Subject: Re: Catonsville MD     > The original chests are still in use as is the original layout.   I should perhaps clarify what I said in my earlier posting. I said that = the action had been converted from electro-pneumatic ventil to = electro-pneumatic pitman operation. While Steve is quite correct in stating that the = original windchests are still in use, they have in fact been changed by the fitting of pitman rails, the removal of the original stop action frogs, and the boring of holes between the ventils. While this has probably improved the speed and reliability of the action, how far it represents a radical departure from the instrument's original state or not is a matter of some debate. It all depends how much one is of a purist in matters of = historical preservation <g>.   Incidentally, perhaps the most significant thing about the Catonsville organ, historically speaking, is that it was the very last instrument = voiced by Claver Casavant, one of the original Casavant Freres (Claver and Samuel Casavant).   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: Mein gott, das herze bring ich dir From: "Richard Jordan" <mail@gesangbuch.org> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:33:40 -0500   At 09:56 AM 9/12/02 -0400, you wrote: > >Can anyone tell me where to find the tune and especially the words to the >chorale "Mein gott, das herze bring ich dir", which Johann Ludwig Krebs = set >as a chorale prelude? In German would be OK >   One resource could be www.Gesangbuch.org which is a new German hymn site and it will have lyrics in german as well as the tunes unfortunately it is not yet available there [although volunteers are most welcome]   Failing that its time to refer to either Wackernagel or Zahn (complete titles can be found at gesangbuch.org)       Regards, Richard Jordan   http://www.Lutheran-Hymnal.com http://www.OnJordansBanks.com  
(back) Subject: Thematic catalog numbers From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:03:28 -0400   Malcolm writes:   >It is a lovely one-movement little trio written by Bach before the Six Sonatas, even though it has somehow a higher Schmieder number.   Schmieder numbers are arranged by medium and form rather than chronologically.   Koechel numbers (for Mozart's works) are roughly chronological. They were originally strictly chronological according to the then-current scholarly opinion on dates of composition-- but the trouble with this is that such opinion changes. Many subsequent editions of the Koechel catalog = reflected these changes by reassigning numbers to compositions. The original number would be marked obsolete and the reader would be referred to another = number with a letter suffixed, to place the piece in the revised order. The situation finally became so cumbersome and confusing that the library profession and almost everyone else now has reverted to the original numbering.      
(back) Subject: Re: Organ crawl on DVD? (was: Re: Felix Hell - Luebeck CD) From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:00:23 EDT     --part1_26.2da625f0.2ab23e47_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/12/02 8:04:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, LeliaLoban@aol.com writes:     > Yes! Has anybody recorded a concert on DVD with an organ crawl as part = of > the package? I'd love to see and hear a first-rate concert on an = historic >   I think Diane Bish had the right idea but did not exploit it enough. I always wished while the camera was locked in on her feet that it would = tour the building and the organ rather than her dress!   Most people, myself included, would accept the sacrifice of sound quality = to be able to hear the organ while going on a tour of the building and the interior of the organ works. I have four videos of organ performances, = but none of them really include the building.   Another idea.... I have a recording of Irish hymns played on period instruments, and during the music there is a wonderful tour of Ireland showing landmarks, etc. This could be an exciting way to present organ music.... playing Bach, or Franck, or whomever and showing places where = they lived and worked and what inspired them. A little creativity and (alot) = of money and I think it could really make some universally marketable DVDs.     Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_26.2da625f0.2ab23e47_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 9/12/02 8:04:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, LeliaLoban@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Yes! &nbsp;Has = anybody recorded a concert on DVD with an organ crawl as part of <BR>the package? &nbsp;I'd love to see and hear a first-rate concert on an = historic <BR>pipe organ with a detailed show-and-tell.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>I think Diane Bish had the right idea but did not exploit it enough. = &nbsp;&nbsp;I always wished while the camera was locked in on her feet = that it would tour the building and the organ rather than her dress! = &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>Most people, myself included, would accept the sacrifice of sound = quality to be able to hear the organ while going on a tour of the building = and the interior of the organ works. &nbsp;&nbsp;I have four videos of = organ performances, but none of them really include the building. <BR> <BR>Another idea.... &nbsp;I have a recording of Irish hymns played on = period instruments, and during the music there is a wonderful tour of = Ireland showing landmarks, etc. &nbsp;&nbsp;This could be an exciting way = to present organ music.... playing Bach, or Franck, or whomever and = showing places where they lived and worked and what inspired them. = &nbsp;&nbsp;A little creativity and (alot) of money and I think it could = really make some universally marketable DVDs. <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_26.2da625f0.2ab23e47_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: TOM LEHRER - OFF TOPIC From: "Paul Austin" <paulaustin1@btopenworld.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:05:56 -0700   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0010_01C25B04.C50919E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Could anyone who owns 'Too many songs by Tom Lehrer and not enough =3D drawings by Ronald Searle' (the sheet music to the Tom Lehrer songs) =3D please contact me privately. I ordered the book but have just recieved = =3D a phone call telling me the book is unobtainable because it is no longer = =3D in print :-( It was like a bullet through the heart!!   Thanks   Paul. paulaustin1@btopenworld.com   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0010_01C25B04.C50919E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Could&nbsp;anyone who owns 'Too many = =3D songs by Tom=3D20 Lehrer and not enough drawings by&nbsp;Ronald Searle'&nbsp;(the sheet =3D music to=3D20 the Tom Lehrer songs) please contact me privately.&nbsp; I ordered the =3D book but=3D20 have just recieved a phone call telling me the book is unobtainable =3D because it=3D20 is no longer in print :-(&nbsp; It was like a bullet through the=3D20 heart!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paul.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:paulaustin1@btopenworld.com">paulaustin1@btopenworld.com</= =3D A></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0010_01C25B04.C50919E0--