PipeChat Digest #3142 - Tuesday, September 24, 2002
 
Glenda's trip to Atlanta
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: What did you play today?
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
recording directly from a digital instrument
  by "tom carter" <tcarter215@yahoo.com>
Re: recording directly from a digital instrument
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Re: recording directly from a digital instrument
  by "Roger Brown" <roger2@rogerbrown.no-ip.org>
Re: recording directly from a digital instrument
  by "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca>
RE: copyrightable silence
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
Playing by ear
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
Re: copyrightable silence
  by "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca>
Re: copyrightable silence
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Re: Bach echoes/dialogues
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Glenda's trip to Atlanta
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: What did you play today?
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Source for Hard-to-find recordings
  by "David Carter" <davidorganist2002@yahoo.com>
Re: Bach echoes/dialogues
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
String player organists?
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Re: String player organists?
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
A Harpsichord Made Out of LEGO's (no ORGAN content)
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
RE: copyrightable silence
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
The T.V. Churches
  by "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net>
Re: The T.V. Churches
  by "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net>
Re: The T.V. Churches
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Organ Pipes as a backdrop for Ideology!
  by "Ronald Gibson" <gibsonronald@hotmail.com>
 

(back) Subject: Glenda's trip to Atlanta From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:02:49 EDT   Bruce wrote: >I would also be tempted to take in All Saints down by Georgia Tech >and that wonderful famous hamburger place. The Chenaults operate the = music   >program, and I don't know what the liturgy is there, but the music should = be   >wonderful. They should use incense or the place would smell like french =   >fries!!! Don't leave Atlanta without a hamburger from um.... er.... = that >place! ;-)     Bruce is referring to The Varsity which has some of the best hamburgers = and hot dogs around, not to mention the fried pies. It's worth a trip to Hotlanta just to eat a meal at the Varisty and feel your arteries clog up with grease!     Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: Re: What did you play today? From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 06:59:44 -0500   I can't really blame them, though- we're talking of churches where 25 people is large attendance. Some nice organs, though!   Paul   > >I play several places about once a month, with the understanding that if = I >get a >call where I can make real money, their keyboard noodlers will fill in = again. > > > >That is really great. Let's em know how much committment pennies can >buy!! ;-) > >Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 >...an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053     http://www.sover.net/~popel/agomain.html      
(back) Subject: recording directly from a digital instrument From: "tom carter" <tcarter215@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 06:59:56 -0700 (PDT)   Hello from one new to the list:   As an organist/composer, I would find it very convenient to record new works from a digital instrument I play occasionally directly to CD (preferably) or cassette. However, as a long-time neo-Luddite, I lack the digital know-how to guess what my best course of action is. The instrument has a built-in "sequencer" that records directly to disk, and "MIDI" ins and outs, but what else do I need to get my improvisations, etc. directly onto an audio format? Any help would be greatly appreciated.   Many thanks, Tom   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D     __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: recording directly from a digital instrument From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:09:53 -0400   At 06:59 AM 9/24/2002 -0700, you wrote: >Hello from one new to the list: > >As an organist/composer, I would find it very >convenient to record new works from a digital >instrument I play occasionally directly to CD >(preferably) or cassette. However, as a long-time >neo-Luddite, I lack the digital know-how to guess what >my best course of action is. The instrument has a >built-in "sequencer" that records directly to disk, >and "MIDI" ins and outs, but what else do I need to >get my improvisations, etc. directly onto an audio >format? Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >Many thanks, >Tom > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Tom,   Most digital organs have a 2 channel output for hooking up to a recorder = or a P.A. system. Since many also are only 2 channel organs, there are also outputs dedicated for external amplifier/speaker systems.   The first outputs mentioned, are usually underneath the keyboard shelf, = the second on the back of the organ.   One thing that has to be borne in mind is that, while you may get a clean signal this way, the voiceing balance may be off, as amplifiers and speakers can affect the way an organ is setup, and also the room it is placed in.   Just remember too, if you are using a digital recorder, never go beyond = the saturation point (too much signal), or you will get severe distortion.   Regards,   Arie V.    
(back) Subject: Re: recording directly from a digital instrument From: "Roger Brown" <roger2@rogerbrown.no-ip.org> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 00:16:19 +1000     tom carter> As an organist/composer, I would find it very tom carter> convenient to record new works from a digital tom carter> instrument I play occasionally directly to CD tom carter> (preferably) or cassette   For playback through the instrument itself or (as your question seems to imply) through a separate sound system?   If the latter, why would you want to record direct - surely an improvisation is the sum of the instrument plus the accoustic of the room. The only way to record that would be through good quality (analogue) microphones.   -- Regards, Roger   Roger Brown roger2@rogerbrown.no-ip.org http://rogerbrown.tripod.com http://member.melbpc.org.au/~robrown/    
(back) Subject: Re: recording directly from a digital instrument From: "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:39:50 -0400   At 06:59 AM 24/09/2002 -0700, tom carter wrote: >(SNIP)     > but what else do I need to >get my improvisations, etc. directly onto an audio >format? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Tom,   Does your digital device have the ability to record the AUDIO output onto a 3.5" floppy in one of the recognised audio file formats such as = .mp3. If it does then you would load the file into your computer and with one of =   the many downloadable conversion programs that there is , convert it into = a ..wav format that you can burn onto CD with the CD burner in your = computer. If you are unable to record the audio output then you would have to record =   the sound as output through the speakers via microphone (s) onto tape or into your computer via the sound card and appropriate software. A URL that you might wish to look at is http://www.webdevelopersjournal.com/studio/   HD    
(back) Subject: RE: copyrightable silence From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:52:29 +0100   Hello,   Could this case really have resulted in a hearing, I wonder?   Now it seems to me that professional opinion of GLENDA should should be = called upoin here.   Could it be that Cage set a precedent for silent music or was he himself = a plagiarist? How long does a silence have to be before it is = "substantially the same" as another silence in artistic concept?   I intend to experiment this Sunday with an announced improvised silence = dedicated to the memory of Cage. I will then invite the Cage foundation = to sue me. I will then invite, as co-defendents, the holders of the = copyright to Gerard Hoffnung's South Bank recordings which, in one = session, includes a piece containing three bars of silence....albeit in = different time signatures to add a Viennese flavour!   I anticipate that I could get a judgement in my favour because, I will = argue that an improvised silence cannot possibly be the same as a = written silence, or be substantially the same. Indeed, not only will the = time signatures change regularly, there will be increases and decreases = in tempii, a section of fugal silence and regular changes of key = signature.........a brilliant silent Toccata will end the piece in three = different keys and in an impossible prestissimo.   Now, if Glanda were the hired attorney, we could probably get back the = =A3100,000 and distribute it among ourselves; the recoverable costs of = the case to be donated to the Deaf Society.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   "He that hath ears to hear, let him hear" but "Let all mortal flesh = keep silence"            
(back) Subject: Playing by ear From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:25:32 +0100   Hello again,   The amusing John Cage debacle reminded me of a true event in my life = which, to this day, I find difficult to comprehend.   As a Uni Organ Scholar, it was part of my duties to drag the Chapel = Choir to York Minster, where they would sing Evensong and I would = conduct with both arms rotating in elegant circles.....that saves so = MUCH effort! Perhaps realising that I was (and still am) the world's = worst conductor, other organists shyed away from throwing themselves at = my feet when I bestowed upon them the honour of "York accompanist for = the day". =20   Not to be outcast or left in a hopless situation, I called upon outside = forces. However, one visit was especially difficult, and in = desperation, I scoured the land looking for an organist. Eventually, a = recommendation came my way and a hired help was found at the eleventh = hour.   On the day, the choir were astonished to see me wander into the Minster = rehearsal carrying what appeared to be a piece of mobile recording = equipment strapped to my chest!   We rehearsed, the organ played beautifully and all went well. At = Evensong, the same thing.....the equipment still strapped to me, my arms = rotating furiously and a wonderful organ accmpaniment rolling around the = building.   It was only afterwards that I let the choir in on the secret.....the = accompanist was completely deaf!   I find it remarkable that someone so profoundly deaf as Paul Whittaker = (then 17 years of age) should go on to graduate at Oxford University and = gain, after much dispute, the FRCO diploma. Indeed the RCO were = extremely unbending about the requirements at the time, because Paul = could not undertake the aural tests. It resulted in a major "incident" = in the RCO's history, but thankfully, common sense eventually prevailed, = and this brilliant musician was awarded the diploma.   So how did he manage to accompany a choir in such a vast acoustic?   Well, it seems that, apart from watching my "circles", he could follow = the progress of the vocal lines if I sang Bass as I conducted...hence = the TRANSMITTER I had strapped to me. Paul, wired for sound and wearing = earpieces, could FEEL the vibrations of my singing. It was enough for = him to be able to follow the proceedings. =20   However, it remains a mystery to me how he could use the Swell Boxes so = beautifully and keep the organ in perfect balance with the choir. We had = arranged certain "signals" if he should play too loud or too soft, but = never once did I have to use them.   A remarkable experience indeed.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK          
(back) Subject: Re: copyrightable silence From: "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:03:42 -0400   Isn't silence in the public domain? I'm sure it's been done for many years but perhaps not so much recently given out noisy lifestyles . Woldn't = that preclude it as being copywritable?    
(back) Subject: Re: copyrightable silence From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:27:55 -0400   At 12:03 PM 9/24/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Isn't silence in the public domain? I'm sure it's been done for many = years >but perhaps not so much recently given out noisy lifestyles . Woldn't = that >preclude it as being copywritable? > Hi list,   Now wouldn't that be something if you told somebody to shut-up, that you could be facing a lawsuit, because you violated a copyrighted piece of music, that specified a period of silence. Maybe we should return to a previous period of civilization, where pointing and grunting was the norm.   Arie V.    
(back) Subject: Re: Bach echoes/dialogues From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:36:21 EDT     --part1_116.17a7c354.2ac1ee85_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Bombay Sapphire...   --part1_116.17a7c354.2ac1ee85_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>Bombay = Sapphire...</FONT></HTML>   --part1_116.17a7c354.2ac1ee85_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Glenda's trip to Atlanta From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:28:17 EDT     --part1_118.17e9d25f.2ac1fab1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/24/02 7:03:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RMB10@aol.com =   writes:     > Bruce is referring to The Varsity which has some of the best hamburgers = and > hot dogs around, not to mention the fried pies. It's worth a trip to > Hotlanta just to eat a meal at the Varisty and feel your arteries clog = up > with grease!   Thanks, Monty. When I lived in Atlanta we never called the place by name. It was just assumed that when we wanted a hamburger or a hotdog, THAT'S where we'd = wind up! A great place. Onion rings aren't bad, either!! ;-)   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_118.17e9d25f.2ac1fab1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 9/24/02 7:03:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RMB10@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Bruce is referring = to The Varsity which has some of the best hamburgers and <BR>hot dogs around, not to mention the fried pies. &nbsp;It's worth a = trip to <BR>Hotlanta just to eat a meal at the Varisty and feel your arteries clog = up <BR>with grease! &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Thanks, Monty. <BR>When I lived in Atlanta we never called the place by name. = &nbsp;&nbsp;It was just assumed that when we wanted a hamburger or a = hotdog, THAT'S where we'd wind up! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;A great place. = &nbsp;&nbsp;Onion rings aren't bad, either!! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_118.17e9d25f.2ac1fab1_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: What did you play today? From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:30:53 EDT     --part1_106.189a7ce0.2ac1fb4d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/24/02 8:05:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, = popel@sover.net writes:     > I can't really blame them, though- we're talking of churches where 25 >   Not much sympathy here, though. So often these churches barely provide a =   reasonable worship experience and are then stunned that people aren't = filling the place up on Sunday. Evangelism and pastoral care needs to extend beyond a newspaper ad in the Saturday paper! grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr   And, sadly, the first thing to go is the music, so the bad sermon just = gets longer!   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_106.189a7ce0.2ac1fb4d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 9/24/02 8:05:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, popel@sover.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I can't really = blame them, though- we're talking of churches where 25 <BR>people is large attendance. Some nice organs, though!</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Not much sympathy here, though. &nbsp;&nbsp;So often these churches = barely provide a reasonable worship experience and are then stunned that = people aren't filling the place up on Sunday. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Evangelism = and pastoral care needs to extend beyond a newspaper ad in the Saturday = paper! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr <BR> <BR>And, sadly, the first thing to go is the music, so the bad sermon just = gets longer! <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_106.189a7ce0.2ac1fb4d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Source for Hard-to-find recordings From: "David Carter" <davidorganist2002@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:35:09 -0700 (PDT)   Dear Pipechatters: Without doing a search of the archives, I don' know whether the following = site has been shared by others, so here goes...   In my random surfing today, I ran across the following site, which appears = to have a sizable inventory of hard-to-find and out-of-print recordings: = http://www.gemm.com/   I entered Biggs into its search field, and came up with a decent list of = his recordings. This site could be useful to see whether or not your favorite LP has been reissued = on CD.   Take care all!   David Carter In HOT Sacramento, experiencing its 49th unhealthy air day this summer = (now fall!!!)     __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach echoes/dialogues From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:32:12 -0400   On 9/23/02 9:16 PM, "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> wrote:   > Alan, I've been to NYC twice, and haven't been able to drag Rick up > there yet. If you see me, it may be in the company of any number of > strange people (none stranger than myself), but probably not with Rick. > He's a homebody. Will let you know the next time I am heading that way.   I'll be looking forward, no matter who comes along with you. We'll have = to visit the very exclusive residential neighborhood, "Sutton Place," of course. Henry Kissinger and suchlike live there.   Alan    
(back) Subject: String player organists? From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:05:56 -0500   Hi, List-   I'm to do a presentation on "Small Organs and Instruments" next July at = the Region I AGO regional convention on Cape Cod. I have a budget for guest instrumentalists, and would like to hire three or four other musicians.   I play classical guitar, recorders and clarinets, and I have good friends with Cape connections who play flute/oboe and bassoon/saxophone/recorder, so the winds are pretty well covered, and the organ is a bit small to do brass with.   So, I'm looking for an organist who plays violin or cello.   Anyone interested, or know anyone? I'm looking to do some continuo pieces, some organ pieces with pedal solos given to bass instruments, and taking organ music that you already have and using instruments instead of a = second manual, to start with- a lot of snippets of music, not performances of complete pieces, necessarily.   Judging from the comments in the recent spate of postings on instruments with organ, I should also demonstrate transposing instruments (easy when I bring Bb and A clarinets and an Eb alto sax!). I'll have a handout on = music software, too- any creative church musician's friend. Having software that lets you transpose parts, re-arrange octave placement, and change clefs greatly expands what you can do with instruments.   The organ is definitely small- it's a Bedient, 8-4-2, pulldown pedal in = the little Episcopal church in Provincetown at the inland end of the harbor. = It has most of the 2' principal in the facade, and it's a cheerful little animal. If I'd only had a pickup truck when I went to look at it, it might be in my studio by now.   http://www.sover.net/~popel/agomain.html      
(back) Subject: Re: String player organists? From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:52:20 EDT     --part1_7e.2e4b5e87.2ac246a4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/24/02 6:12:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = popel@sover.net writes:     > I'm to do a presentation on "Small Organs and Instruments" next July at = the > Region I AGO regional convention on Cape Cod. I have a budget for guest > instrumentalists, and would like to hire three   Wow! This is worth getting out my cello for!!! ;-)   Sounds like a really great program.   Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 ....an opportunity for health & wealth http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053   --part1_7e.2e4b5e87.2ac246a4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 9/24/02 6:12:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, popel@sover.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I'm to do a = presentation on "Small Organs and Instruments" next July at the <BR>Region I AGO regional convention on Cape Cod. I have a budget for = guest <BR>instrumentalists, and would like to hire three &nbsp;or four other = musicians.</BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Wow! &nbsp;&nbsp;This is worth getting out my cello for!!! = &nbsp;&nbsp;;-) &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Sounds like a really great program. <BR> <BR>Bruce in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 <BR>...an opportunity for health &amp; wealth = &nbsp;http://visionsuccess.com/BC2053</FONT></HTML>   --part1_7e.2e4b5e87.2ac246a4_boundary--  
(back) Subject: A Harpsichord Made Out of LEGO's (no ORGAN content) From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:30:38 EDT   Every once in a while, something comes along that is so unusual, you feel = you have to share it. This is a working harpsichord made out of Lego building =   blocks.   <A HREF=3D"http://www.henrylim.org/Harpsichord.html">Click here: = Harpsichord</A>   Somewhere, somebody had way too much free time (and too many Lego's)  
(back) Subject: RE: copyrightable silence From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 20:53:43 -0500   I'm so flattered to be considered for retaining as your attorney, but I don't take contingency fee cases, and my hourly rate is pretty high. Furthermore, copyright law is not my area (although copyright/patent/agency related law would probably be so tedious as to be lots of fun).   It would seem that the chances of victory are dependent at least partly upon whether copyright law would sound in equity or in law. My guess is the latter (was there such an animal as copyright at common law? Yes, it COULD happen, but more likely copyright is a creature of statutory origin), which would give rise to the argument that a jury trial may be demanded. If successful on that point, then the task would be to obtain a jury of people with common sense. I am sure the U.S. Code and its case law progeny answer this question and trump the whole equity/law dichotomy, but inasmuch as the sacred relationship has not yet been consummated (i.e., the money has not passed hands), I am not at liberty to pull the volume and check it out. I hate federal practice anyway.   However, if I recall correctly, this story originated in Britain, a situs about which I would venture no guesses.   Any prior copyright on silence would have long expired in the cacophony of the twentieth century. However, for Cage to claim he owns it is stretching common sense past its limits. Of course, I see this phenomenon every day, particularly with the advent of non-Southerners buying property sight unseen and moving to Florida, only to make their neighbors miserable with frivolous lawsuits about various and sundry.   Always happy to be clear as mud. Gotta get my beauty rest so that tomorrow I can kick the legal or literal butt of a particular bastard that sorely needs it for angering me, all sans martinis.   Smooch, smooch.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: The T.V. Churches From: "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:17:33 -0500   Maybe this is just me, but does it seem that the hymn registrations on the "big two" TV churches (Coral Ridge Pres. and Crystal Cathedral) seem very muddy? They always are with the full organ, manal 16's in full force, and the 32's on all the time in the pedal. The hymn introduction on Coral Ridge seems to involve the horizontal reeds most of the time, although this last week the trumpets were omitted in the "fanfare" before the hymn. Does anyone else notice these kind of things? I guess I am kind of bored with the constant full-organ plenum that I see when I watch these T.V. programs.   Paul Soulek ....who tapes 3 television church services on Sunday so I can hear the music!  
(back) Subject: Re: The T.V. Churches From: "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:40:08 -0500   Paul Soulek wrote: > > very muddy? They always are with the full organ, manal 16's in full   Oops.....that should be MANUAL 16's, not "manal". Sorry.  
(back) Subject: Re: The T.V. Churches From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 23:19:26 EDT     --part1_e.25a925f6.2ac2853e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I bet the congregation loves the power...so does the organist...laughing   --part1_e.25a925f6.2ac2853e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>I bet the congregation = loves the power...so does the organist...laughing</FONT></HTML>   --part1_e.25a925f6.2ac2853e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Organ Pipes as a backdrop for Ideology! From: "Ronald Gibson" <gibsonronald@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 03:22:55 +0000   <html><div style=3D'background-color:'><DIV> <P><BR>Dear Paul Soulek,</P> <P>Right you are Paul--- concerning the overuse of "heavy organ" on the = Fort Lauderdale&nbsp;and Garden Grove broadcasts.&nbsp; But what's even = worse is the conservative politicking that emanates from the Fort = Lauderdale pulpit &nbsp;as a "raison d'etre".&nbsp; Mr. Kennedy would be = better advised to let the pipes that he has consigned to&nbsp;the = &nbsp;mute backdrop to take over the broadcast as their speech would be = infinitely more eloquent than anything he has to say!&nbsp;&nbsp; </P> <P>Despite the string of degrees behind&nbsp;Mr. Kennedy's &nbsp;name that = flash by&nbsp;in the broadcast credits, &nbsp;he really does not give = convincing evidence of having led a reflective life---his life is that of = the ideologue and&nbsp;his &nbsp;musicians' efforts are cheapened = by&nbsp;their association with him.</P> <P>Sincerely yours,</P> <P>Ronald D. Gibson</P> <P>Oberlin, Ohio</P> <P>&nbsp;</P></DIV></div><br clear=3Dall><hr>Join the world=92s largest = e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. <a = href=3D'http://g.msn.com/1HM1ENUS/c157??PI=3D44364'>Click = Here</a><br></html>