PipeChat Digest #3148 - Saturday, September 28, 2002
 
Ellijah Score (X-Post)
  by "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re: TV Churches, Chamades and Hymn Playing--Long
  by "r" <basset3@hvc.rr.com>
Re: TV Churches, Chamades and Hymn Playing--Long
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Ellijah Score (X-Post)
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
St. John the Divine EC
  by "noel jones, aago" <zimbelstern@onemain.com>
Public Domain organ music (follow-up X-post)
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net>
Re: Ellijah Score (X-Post)
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
A few ramblings for discussion
  by <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk>
RE: anthem search
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
Re: Personal Liability Insurance and music teachers.
  by "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: Ellijah Score (X-Post) From: "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 08:33:55 -0400   Dear List,   Does anyone know of the availability of a specific organ accompaniment score for the Mendelssohn Ellijah ?   The Masterworks Chorale (in CNY) will be performing this in the spring and they are looking for an organ score for it.   Is there a separate Score for organ, or does everyone just use the piano reduction in the vocal score?     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY  
(back) Subject: Re: TV Churches, Chamades and Hymn Playing--Long From: "r" <basset3@hvc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 08:47:07 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004C_01C26602.75F42EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   they produce shit-eating grins from everyone in the room!   A related vignette:   Scene: A cocktail party & dinner at Cathedral of St. John the Divine, =3D NYC decorated to the hilt with golden up-lights, floral arrangements =3D suspended from the columns, 1,000 votive candles all lit, little gardens = =3D of grass and climbing trellises of fragrant flowers, long tables laden =3D with liquor served by waiters in tuxes, tables all set in anticipation =3D of dinner, good smells coming from the catering people.   With cocktails in hand everywhere and lots of chit chat and air kisses =3D flying around, Dorothy P. hits a massive chord on the State Trumpet and = =3D follows with an extended flourish. Immediately, eveyone lost half their drinks from the shock of such =3D unanticipated sound interrupting the clink of ice cubes. I actually saw, no offense to David Blaine (the street magician from =3D TV), people levitate right off the ground. When they came to their =3D senses and realized it was the call to take their places at dinner, the = =3D above-referenced grins appeared en masse.   Thanks Dorothy, Robert Clooney         ------=3D_NextPart_000_004C_01C26602.75F42EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.100" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3D2>they produce =3D shit-eating grins from=3D20 everyone in the room!</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT =3D size=3D3D2></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3D2>A&nbsp;related=3D20 vignette:</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3D2>Scene:&nbsp;&nbsp;A = =3D cocktail party=3D20 &amp; dinner at Cathedral of St. John the Divine, NYC decorated to the =3D hilt with=3D20 golden up-lights, floral arrangements suspended from the columns, 1,000 = =3D votive=3D20 candles all lit, little gardens of grass and climbing trellises of =3D fragrant=3D20 flowers, long tables laden with liquor served by waiters in tuxes, =3D tables all=3D20 set in anticipation of dinner, good smells coming from the catering=3D20 people.</FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>With cocktails in hand everywhere and = =3D lots of chit=3D20 chat and air kisses flying around, Dorothy P. hits a massive chord on =3D the State=3D20 Trumpet and follows with an extended flourish.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Immediately, eveyone lost half their = =3D drinks from=3D20 the shock of such unanticipated sound interrupting the clink of ice=3D20 cubes.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I actually saw, no offense to David = =3D Blaine (the=3D20 street magician from TV), people levitate right off the ground.&nbsp; =3D When they=3D20 came to their senses and realized it was the call to take their places =3D at=3D20 dinner, the above-referenced grins appeared en masse.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks Dorothy,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Robert Clooney</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004C_01C26602.75F42EE0--    
(back) Subject: Re: TV Churches, Chamades and Hymn Playing--Long From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:13:33 EDT     --part1_16c.147c87f2.2ac5b37d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   great story! Greg   --part1_16c.147c87f2.2ac5b37d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>great story! <BR>Greg</FONT></HTML>   --part1_16c.147c87f2.2ac5b37d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Ellijah Score (X-Post) From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:39:27 -0400   G. Schirmer publishes (I purchased mine about 25 years ago) an organ = edition of Elijah. Like Messiah, it is useful in finding some alternative = ways of playing some finger-busting passages, but I usually end up playing = from the piano score since I know it so well from being the rehearsal = accompanist.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea  
(back) Subject: St. John the Divine EC From: "noel jones, aago" <zimbelstern@onemain.com> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:05:16 -0400   I can verify the astounding effect...   I was standing underneath the ST once during a graduation ceremony for a nursing school and, when they let fly, every head snapped around to see what was bearing down upon them!   A chiropractor's dream.     -- noel jones, aago athens, tennessee, usa ------------------------------- frog music press rodgers organ users group www.frogmusic.com   Publishing MIDI Music for Organ Solo with MIDI Orchestra      
(back) Subject: Public Domain organ music (follow-up X-post) From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 10:28:09 -0700   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0081_01C26610.933AA840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hell friends,   Once again I come to you about the public domain project I am involved =3D in for putting PD organ music on the internet for free download. I am =3D happy to report the first piece is cleared and ready for your =3D downloading pleasure at:   http://www.ibiblio.org/gutenberg/music/Titles/Prelude_and_Fugue_in_E_flat= =3D _major__Op_99_no_3.html=3D20   I would ask you to have a look and give any CONSTRUCTIVE suggestions.... = =3D be gentle - we're all volunteers doing this for the sheer love of music.   Also, for all of those kind souls who offered to help - some with Finale = =3D scores, scanning etc. - I STILL need you! If you've offered a Finale =3D score and are still interested in submitting, please let me know. If =3D you are willing to scan/photocopy, I still need you, too. I have tons =3D of stuff yet to edit, so the immediate need for scanning/photocopying is = =3D less, as it is FAR quicker to ready a Finale score for the web (and the = =3D file size is smaller).   Cheers,   Jonathan Orwig     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.386 / Virus Database: 218 - Release Date: 9/9/02   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0081_01C26610.933AA840 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hell friends,</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Once again I come to you about the = =3D public domain=3D20 project I am involved in for putting PD organ music on the internet for = =3D free=3D20 download.&nbsp; I am happy to report the first piece is cleared and =3D ready for=3D20 your downloading pleasure at:</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.ibiblio.org/gutenberg/music/Titles/Prelude_and_Fugue_i= =3D n_E_flat_major__Op_99_no_3.html">http://www.ibiblio.org/gutenberg/music/T= =3D itles/Prelude_and_Fugue_in_E_flat_major__Op_99_no_3.html</A>=3D20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I would ask you to have a look and = give =3D any=3D20 CONSTRUCTIVE suggestions.... be gentle - we're all volunteers doing this = =3D for the=3D20 sheer love of music.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Also, for all of those kind souls who = =3D offered to=3D20 help - some with Finale scores, scanning etc. - I STILL need you! If =3D you've=3D20 offered a Finale score and are still interested in submitting, please =3D let me=3D20 know.&nbsp; If you are willing to scan/photocopy, I still need you, =3D too.&nbsp; I=3D20 have tons of stuff yet to edit, so the immediate need for =3D scanning/photocopying=3D20 is less, as it is FAR quicker to ready a Finale score for the web (and =3D the file=3D20 size is smaller).</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Jonathan Orwig</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><BR>---<BR>Outgoing mail is certified = =3D Virus=3D20 Free.<BR>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (<A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.grisoft.com">http://www.grisoft.com</A>).<BR>Version: = =3D 6.0.386 /=3D20 Virus Database: 218 - Release Date: 9/9/02</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0081_01C26610.933AA840--    
(back) Subject: Re: Ellijah Score (X-Post) From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 12:58:21 -0400   I question the value of an "organ score" if the organist has enough skill = to add things to the piano-vocal score based on a full score/study score. = I've played _Elijah_ multiple times and never from a "organ score," which = would hve been more nuisance than benefit for what little you'd get out of it.   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA   > From: "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> > Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 08:33:55 -0400 > To: Pipechat@pipechat.org, PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu > Subject: Ellijah Score (X-Post) > > Dear List, > > Does anyone know of the availability of a specific organ accompaniment > score for the Mendelssohn Ellijah ? > > The Masterworks Chorale (in CNY) will be performing this in the spring > and they are looking for an organ score for it. > > Is there a separate Score for organ, or does everyone just use the piano > reduction in the vocal score? > > > Douglas A. Campbell > Skaneateles, NY > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: A few ramblings for discussion From: <cmys13085@blueyonder.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:26:24 +0100   Hello,   My ever fertile imagination has been running riot this week.   First of all, I wondered why the music of Hindemith is never disdussed = or played much these days. Indeed, where has the spirit of Hindemith = gone?   Then I thought:-   Why does no-one ever discuss the Scandanavia/Netherlands/Czech schools = of composition?   Quite unrelated came another thought:-   Has any voicer/organ builder ever tried leathering the top lips of open = foot, un-nicked pipes.....what happens? Does it sound OK?   Finally, I wondered:-   Who were/are the really great reed voicers of this century?   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK  
(back) Subject: RE: anthem search From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:59:08 -0400   >I need a suggestion for a 4 part anthem for All Saints Day not based on Sine Nomine   If you can manage it, "Give me the wings of faith" by Kenneth Leighton is = a stunning anthem, a too-little-known minor masterpiece.   I'd go for it in a New York minute given a competent enough choir-- and colorful enough organ. It's one of those many sterling English anthems in which choir and organ are in an almost equal partnership.              
(back) Subject: Re: Personal Liability Insurance and music teachers. From: "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 09:09:45 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00F2_01C26605.9F34C320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Presumably the question is answered by the following: "Whose organ is it = =3D you will be using ?"=3D20 If it belongs to the school, all liability should be their =3D responsibility, and should have been be settled by those governing the =3D school before even the suggestion of asking for candidates for teaching. = =3D They need to consult their own documents from their insurers. If it's your own instrument that you are taking there to use, simply =3D extend your own cover (which, of course, I assume you already have). =3D Most instrument insurers will extend cover to include Third Party =3D Liability. I have such cover when I go to play at National Trust =3D Properties or Stately Homes. 'The Butler' and I recently looked around =3D one room where I was setting up and worked out that =3DA31,500,000's worth = =3D of cover would 'just about' pay for the furniture & fittings ! =3D (Sheridan, Chippendales (the ones with the bandy legs) and Louis XIV =3D didn't ever come cheep.)   Anyway, a school with a genuine interest in developing Organ performance = =3D (and the investment in an existing instrument) should be prepared to put = =3D their money where their mouth is. "Never spoil the ship for a h'penny-worth of tar."   H -----Original Message----- From: Jim Hailey <jhaileya10@charter.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: 27 September 2002 03:38 Subject: Re: Personal Liability Insurance and music teachers. =3D20 =3D20 Personal liability, for what? I mean it ain't like you are a sports = =3D coach. On the other hand, the most likely place to start will be the =3D company that carries your home owners. I have had to get extra coverage = =3D insurance and obtained it through my regular insurance carrier. =3D20 Jim H ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Paulaustin11@aol.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 8:46 AM Subject: Personal Liability Insurance and music teachers. paulaustin11@aol.com=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00F2_01C26605.9F34C320 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD>   <META content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3Diso-8859-1 =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 = =3D Transitional//EN"> <META content=3D3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE>   </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2>Presumably the question is = answered =3D by the=3D20 following: &quot;Whose organ is it you will be using ?&quot; =3D </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D3D2>If it = belongs =3D to the school,=3D20 all liability should be their responsibility, and should have been be =3D settled by=3D20 those governing the school before even the suggestion of asking for =3D candidates=3D20 for teaching. They need to consult their own documents from their=3D20 insurers.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>If it's your own instrument that you are taking =3D there to use,=3D20 simply extend your own cover (which, of course, I assume you already =3D have). Most=3D20 instrument insurers will extend cover to include Third Party Liability. = =3D I have=3D20 such cover when I go to play at National Trust Properties or Stately =3D Homes. 'The=3D20 Butler' and I recently looked around one room where I was setting up and = =3D worked=3D20 out that &pound;1,500,000's worth of cover would 'just about' pay for =3D the=3D20 furniture &amp; fittings ! (Sheridan, Chippendales (the ones with the =3D bandy=3D20 legs) and Louis XIV didn't ever come cheep.)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Anyway, a school with a genuine interest in =3D developing Organ=3D20 performance (and the investment in an existing instrument) should be =3D prepared to=3D20 put their money where their mouth is.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>&quot;Never spoil the ship for a h'penny-worth = of=3D20 tar.&quot;</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>H</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = =3D 5px"> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><B>-----Original =3D Message-----</B><BR><B>From:=3D20 </B>Jim Hailey &lt;<A=3D20 =3D href=3D3D"mailto:jhaileya10@charter.net">jhaileya10@charter.net</A>&gt;<BR>= =3D <B>To:=3D20 </B>PipeChat &lt;<A=3D20 =3D href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A>&gt;<BR><B= =3D >Date:=3D20 </B>27 September 2002 03:38<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Personal =3D Liability=3D20 Insurance and music teachers.<BR><BR></DIV></FONT> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Personal liability, for = what?&nbsp; =3D I mean it=3D20 ain't like you are a sports coach.&nbsp; On the other hand, the most = =3D likely=3D20 place to start will be the company that carries your home =3D owners.&nbsp; I=3D20 have had to get extra coverage insurance and obtained it through my = =3D regular=3D20 insurance carrier.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Jim H</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =3D </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A href=3D3D"mailto:Paulaustin11@aol.com"=3D20 title=3D3DPaulaustin11@aol.com>Paulaustin11@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org"=3D20 title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org>pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September = =3D 26, 2002=3D20 8:46 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Personal =3D Liability=3D20 Insurance and music teachers.</DIV><FONT =3D face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT=3D20 face=3D3DArial lang=3D3D0 size=3D3D2 FAMILY =3D3D = SANSSERIF><A=3D20 =3D href=3D3D"mailto:paulaustin11@aol.com">paulaustin11@aol.com</A></FONT>=3D20=   </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00F2_01C26605.9F34C320--