PipeChat Digest #3153 - Monday, September 30, 2002
 
Re: cheap music writing software?
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net>
Re: Weddings and Funerals
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
RE: Weddings and Funerals
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: cheap music writing software?
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Weddings and Funerals
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Re: Weddings and Funerals
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: cheap music writing software?
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Up coming program.
  by "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com>
music notation software for Macs
  by "Carol Scott" <dclscott@skyenet.net>
Re: Finale NotePad
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
Re: what did you play today?
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
RE: Weddings and Funerals
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
RE: Weddings and Funerals
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
Questions about Mulet
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Weddings and Funerals
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Weddings and Funerals
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: cheap music writing software? From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 15:47:45 -0700   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0027_01C26898.B8138580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Re: cheap music writing software?Randy,   As a staff member of a church you can get a discount off the full $$ for = =3D Finale.... don't know what the exact cost is now, but it was a substantial savings over regular retail. They merely asked = =3D for a FAX of the church letterhead and a note from the church bookeeper, IIRC.   The Sibelius vs. Finale debate goes on and on.... I agree that Finale =3D was a pain in the proverbial keyster when first released, but the ease of use is much better now.... I have not found one thing =3D that I cannot do in Finale (although some of the obscure notation stuff sends me digging through the manual!) Nowadays S users =3D swear by it, and F users swear by _it_..... research and decide for =3D yerself <grin> but my vote goes to Finale....   Cheers,   Jonathan ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Randolph Runyon=3D20 To: PipeChat=3D20 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 1:12 PM Subject: Re: cheap music writing software?     Thanks. I already have it, and have been using it, but have begun to = =3D run up against its limitations. Can't change the meter within a piece; = =3D no 5/8 or 7/8; only 20 measures per piece; etc.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu         on 9/30/02 3:02 PM, Paulaustin11@aol.com at Paulaustin11@aol.com =3D wrote:     Randy,   If you go to:   http://www.codamusic.com/coda/np.asp   .....you can download Fianale Notepad 2002 completely free. I have = =3D been using it for quite sometime now and find it caters for all my =3D needs. Its about a 10 minute download and has lots of excellent =3D features. I am assuming it has some features missing from the costly =3D version, but I don't know what they are. =3D20   Paul.=3D20         --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.386 / Virus Database: 218 - Release Date: 9/9/02   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0027_01C26898.B8138580 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Re: cheap music writing software?</TITLE> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Randy,</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>As a staff member of a church you can = =3D get a=3D20 discount&nbsp;off the full $$ for Finale.... don't know what the exact =3D cost is=3D20 now,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>but it was a substantial savings over = =3D regular=3D20 retail.&nbsp; They merely asked for a FAX of the church letterhead and a = =3D note=3D20 from</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>the church bookeeper, =3D IIRC.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The Sibelius vs. Finale debate goes = on =3D and on.... I=3D20 agree that Finale was a pain in the proverbial keyster when first=3D20 released,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>but the ease of use is much better = =3D now....&nbsp; I=3D20 have not found one thing that I cannot do in Finale (although some of =3D the=3D20 obscure</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>notation stuff sends me digging = through =3D the=3D20 manual!)&nbsp; Nowadays S users swear by it, and F users swear by =3D _it_.....=3D20 research and decide for yerself &lt;grin&gt; but my vote goes to=3D20 Finale....</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Jonathan</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = =3D 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A href=3D3D"mailto:runyonr@muohio.edu" =3D title=3D3Drunyonr@muohio.edu>Randolph=3D20 Runyon</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org" =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org>PipeChat</A>=3D20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 30, =3D 2002 1:12=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: cheap music =3D writing=3D20 software?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV>Thanks. &nbsp;I already have it, and have been using =3D it, but=3D20 have begun to run up against its limitations. &nbsp;Can't change the =3D meter=3D20 within a piece; no 5/8 or 7/8; only 20 measures per piece;=3D20 etc.<BR><BR><BR>Randy Runyon<BR>Music Director<BR>Zion Lutheran=3D20 Church<BR>Hamilton, Ohio<BR><A=3D20 =3D href=3D3D"mailto:runyonr@muohio.edu">runyonr@muohio.edu</A><BR><BR><BR><BR>= =3D <BR>on=3D20 9/30/02 3:02 PM, <A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Paulaustin11@aol.com">Paulaustin11@aol.com</A> at=3D20 Paulaustin11@aol.com wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D3D2><FONT face=3D3DArial>Randy,<BR><BR>If you = go=3D20 to:<BR><BR>http://www.codamusic.com/coda/np.asp<BR><BR>.....you can = =3D download=3D20 Fianale Notepad 2002 completely free. &nbsp;I have been using it for = =3D quite=3D20 sometime now and find it caters for all my needs. &nbsp;Its about a = =3D 10=3D20 minute download and has lots of excellent features. &nbsp;I am =3D assuming it=3D20 has some features missing from the costly version, but I don't know = =3D what=3D20 they are. &nbsp;<BR><BR>Paul.</FONT></FONT> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = =3D 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"><FONT=3D20 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><BR>---<BR>Outgoing mail is certified Virus = =3D Free.<BR>Checked=3D20 by AVG anti-virus system (<A=3D20 =3D href=3D3D"http://www.grisoft.com">http://www.grisoft.com</A>).<BR>Version: = =3D 6.0.386=3D20 / Virus Database: 218 - Release Date: =3D 9/9/02</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0027_01C26898.B8138580--    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:35:02 -0400   on 9/30/02 6:39 PM, TubaMagna@aol.com at TubaMagna@aol.com wrote:   > I believe, but may be mistaken, that both Jefferson and Hamilton died > within hours of each other, fifty years to the day after the signing of = the > Declaration of Independence. > Sebastian   Yes, except that it was John Adams instead of Alexander Hamilton. Quite a weird coincidence.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: RE: Weddings and Funerals From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:37:42 -0500   Pat is right - Hamilton was killed by Burr in a duel on July 11-12 (can't remember the year). It was Adams and Jefferson who died within hours of each other on July 4, 1826.   Cheers,   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Re: cheap music writing software? From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:38:30 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --MS_Mac_OE_3116259510_2365019_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit   Thanks, Jonathan. That was going to be my next question, which of those = two is better. As a university professor (believe it or not!) I also can get = an educational discount. The church and educator discounts are probably the same, but substantial, last time I checked. Don't think I can get both at the same time, though!     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu         on 9/30/02 6:47 PM, Jonathan Orwig at giwro@earthlink.net wrote:   Randy, As a staff member of a church you can get a discount off the full $$ for Finale.... don't know what the exact cost is now, but it was a substantial savings over regular retail. They merely asked = for a FAX of the church letterhead and a note from the church bookeeper, IIRC. The Sibelius vs. Finale debate goes on and on.... I agree that Finale was = a pain in the proverbial keyster when first released, but the ease of use is much better now.... I have not found one thing = that I cannot do in Finale (although some of the obscure notation stuff sends me digging through the manual!) Nowadays S users = swear by it, and F users swear by _it_..... research and decide for yerself = <grin> but my vote goes to Finale.... Cheers, Jonathan ----- Original Message ----- From: Randolph Runyon <mailto:runyonr@muohio.edu> To: PipeChat <mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 1:12 PM Subject: Re: cheap music writing software?   Thanks. I already have it, and have been using it, but have begun to run = up against its limitations. Can't change the meter within a piece; no 5/8 or 7/8; only 20 measures per piece; etc.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu         on 9/30/02 3:02 PM, Paulaustin11@aol.com at Paulaustin11@aol.com wrote:   Randy,   If you go to:   http://www.codamusic.com/coda/np.asp   ......you can download Fianale Notepad 2002 completely free. I have been using it for quite sometime now and find it caters for all my needs. Its about a 10 minute download and has lots of excellent features. I am assuming it has some features missing from the costly version, but I don't know what they are.   Paul.     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.386 / Virus Database: 218 - Release Date: 9/9/02         --MS_Mac_OE_3116259510_2365019_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: cheap music writing software?</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> Thanks, Jonathan. &nbsp;That was going to be my next question, which of = tho=3D se two is better. &nbsp;As a university professor (believe it or not!) I = als=3D o can get an educational discount. &nbsp;The church and educator discounts = a=3D re probably the same, but substantial, last time I checked. &nbsp;Don't = thin=3D k I can get both at the same time, though!<BR> <BR> <BR> Randy Runyon<BR> Music Director<BR> Zion Lutheran Church<BR> Hamilton, Ohio<BR> runyonr@muohio.edu<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> on 9/30/02 6:47 PM, Jonathan Orwig at giwro@earthlink.net wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">Randy,<BR> </FONT></FONT> <BR> <FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">As a staff member of a church = you can get=3D a discount off the full $$ for Finale.... don't know what the exact cost = is=3D now,<BR> but it was a substantial savings over regular retail. &nbsp;They merely = ask=3D ed for a FAX of the church letterhead and a note from<BR> the church bookeeper, IIRC.<BR> </FONT></FONT> <BR> <FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">The Sibelius vs. Finale debate = goes on an=3D d on.... I agree that Finale was a pain in the proverbial keyster when = first=3D released,<BR> but the ease of use is much better now.... &nbsp;I have not found one = thing=3D that I cannot do in Finale (although some of the obscure<BR> notation stuff sends me digging through the manual!) &nbsp;Nowadays S = users=3D swear by it, and F users swear by _it_..... research and decide for = yerself=3D &lt;grin&gt; but my vote goes to Finale....<BR> </FONT></FONT> <BR> <FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">Cheers,<BR> </FONT></FONT> <BR> <FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">Jonathan<BR> </FONT></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE>----- Original Message ----- <BR> <B>From:</B> Randolph Runyon &lt;mailto:runyonr@muohio.edu&gt; &nbsp;<BR> <B>To:</B> PipeChat &lt;mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org&gt; &nbsp;<BR> <B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 30, 2002 1:12 PM<BR> <B>Subject:</B> Re: cheap music writing software?<BR> <BR> Thanks. &nbsp;I already have it, and have been using it, but have begun to = =3D run up against its limitations. &nbsp;Can't change the meter within a = piece;=3D no 5/8 or 7/8; only 20 measures per piece; etc.<BR> <BR> <BR> Randy Runyon<BR> Music Director<BR> Zion Lutheran Church<BR> Hamilton, Ohio<BR> runyonr@muohio.edu<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> on 9/30/02 3:02 PM, Paulaustin11@aol.com at Paulaustin11@aol.com = wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">Randy,<BR> <BR> If you go to:<BR> <BR> http://www.codamusic.com/coda/np.asp<BR> <BR> ......you can download Fianale Notepad 2002 completely free. &nbsp;I have = be=3D en using it for quite sometime now and find it caters for all my needs. = &nbs=3D p;Its about a 10 minute download and has lots of excellent features. = &nbsp;I=3D am assuming it has some features missing from the costly version, but I = don=3D 't know what they are. &nbsp;<BR> <BR> Paul.</FONT></FONT> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial"><BR> ---<BR> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.<BR> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).<BR> Version: 6.0.386 / Virus Database: 218 - Release Date: 9/9/02<BR> </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </BODY> </HTML>     --MS_Mac_OE_3116259510_2365019_MIME_Part--    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:42:19 EDT     --part1_3b.2d3cda7c.2aca3b5b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 9/30/2002 6:40:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, TubaMagna@aol.com writes:     > I believe, but may be mistaken, that both Jefferson and Hamilton died > within hours of each other, fifty years to the day after the signing of = the > > Declaration of Independence. >   Actually it was Jefferson and John Adams who both died on July 4, 1826.   I used to be the assistant (and default funeral organist) at a large RC church in Washington where we always had a funeral "boom" in the week or = two following Christmas and New Years.   --part1_3b.2d3cda7c.2aca3b5b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 9/30/2002 6:40:19 PM Eastern = Standard Time, TubaMagna@aol.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I believe, but may = be mistaken, that both Jefferson and Hamilton died <BR> within hours of each other, fifty years to the day after the signing of = the <BR> Declaration of Independence.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Actually it was Jefferson and John Adams who both died on July 4, = 1826.<BR> <BR> I used to be the assistant (and default funeral organist) at a large RC = church in Washington where we always had a funeral "boom" in the week or = two following Christmas and New Years. <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_3b.2d3cda7c.2aca3b5b_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:42:06 -0400   Of course, if Adams and Jefferson had also fought each other in a duel, = and both won (or lost), it would have been the same result. ;)       Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu       on 9/30/02 7:37 PM, Glenda at gksjd85@direcway.com wrote:   > Pat is right - Hamilton was killed by Burr in a duel on July 11-12 > (can't remember the year). It was Adams and Jefferson who died within > hours of each other on July 4, 1826. > > Cheers, > > Glenda Sutton > gksjd85@direcway.com > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: cheap music writing software? From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 18:51:15 -0500       Randolph Runyon wrote:   > Thanks. I already have it, and have been using it, but have begun to > run up against its limitations. Can't change the meter within a > piece; no 5/8 or 7/8; only 20 measures per piece; etc.   Were I in your position, I would contact Coda directly, explain that you have been using Notepad, have run against its limitations, but are unsure whether Printmusic, Allegro, or even Finale (which bears a substantial discount for those with churches, and their employees) is the better choice for your long term needs, and ask if it is possible that you purchase Printmusic, and find its limitations hard to work with, too, whether you can get a credit towards Allegro or Finale?.   ns    
(back) Subject: Up coming program. From: "jon bertschinger" <jonberts@magiccablepc.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:27:22 -0500   Hello All:   Bruce Prince-Joseph will be performing again in October at Liberty Christian Church, Liberty, MO (Kansas City area). The date set is October 27 (sunday). Will post details about program and time later. Sadly, I'll miss this program, as I'll be in FL. Glenda if you are up this way, be sure to hear him! <G>   Jon Bertschinger  
(back) Subject: music notation software for Macs From: "Carol Scott" <dclscott@skyenet.net> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 20:37:23 -0400   Randy et. al. I've used MusicTime Deluxe on a Mac for quite a few years now. I'm not = especially computer-savvy and find it quite easy to use. It is a bit more = expensive than the other program mentioned, about $70, but addresses all = of the specific limitations Randy mentioned. You can type notes in = entirely by hand, use an easily-learned shorthand for quicker entry, or = hook it up to a MIDI keyboard and 'play' right in, if you're rhythmicly = accurate (I always have to go back and fix my triplets!). Information can = be found at http://www.gvox.com/   Carol Scott   Randy Runyon said: I was intrigued by this mention of Noteworthy Composer, which at $39 seems an excellent buy. However, as I understand from their web site, it only works in Windows and I work on a Mac. I was about to buy Finale, but can someone please tell me if there is music writing software for the Mac that is in the price range of Noteworthy Composer?      
(back) Subject: Re: Finale NotePad From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 20:50:46 -0400   > I am in possession of a MacIntosh, and limited intelligence. > Will Finale NotePad work with both?   It certainly seems to work with the Mac as I just downloaded it this = afternoon and started messing around with it. That fact that I got anywhere with it = is a good indication that it works with limited intelligence, too. <g>   Cheers, TommyLee    
(back) Subject: Re: what did you play today? From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:02:29 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --MS_Mac_OE_3116264550_2668116_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   Zion Lutheran Church (ELCA) Hamilton, Ohio (formerly known as The Safe Capital of the World)   Prelude: When I Survey the Wondrous Cross Christina Harmon   Anthem: The Kingdom Andr=3DE9 Thomas (fun!!!)     Offertory: Give Me That Old Time Religion Charles Lloyd, Jr. (even more fun!!!) Dick Ruby, baritone   Postlude: Joyful, Joyful Christina Harmon   Hymns: Entrance: Rejoice, O Pilgrim Throng (Marion) Closing: Let All Things Now Living (The Ash Grove)   We have hymn sings on fifth Sundays, so the folks in the pews got to call out their favorites, and we sang 2 verses of each. The inevitable "How Great Thou Art" and "What a Friend We Have in Jesus" also some fresh faces like "Shine, Jesus, Shine" and "Alibar=3DE9."   We also sang my new setting of the Lord's Prayer, with the music and text printed in the bulletin. Can't tell yet how well it went over, because = the service went almost twenty-five minutes overlong, and everybody was gone = by the time I descended from the rear balcony. The pastor left me a nice = note today about it, saying he'd like to have us sing it once a month, but also wondering what to do about the high notes. I imagine that transposing it from E-flat to D-flat would solve that problem easily. Only thing is, who else would want to do it in five flats? C might be too low; I'll check.   Christina Harmon of Dallas, Texas, runs the French Organ Music Seminar I took part in in 2001; she's going to do it again in 2003. You can check = ou=3D t her web site at www.bfoms.com     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu       --MS_Mac_OE_3116264550_2668116_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: what did you play today?</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT SIZE=3D3D"4"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Hoefler Text">Zion Lutheran Church = (ELCA)<BR> Hamilton, Ohio (formerly known as The Safe Capital of the World)<BR> <BR> Prelude: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;When I Survey the Wondrous Cross = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=3D sp;Christina Harmon<BR> <BR> Anthem: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The Kingdom = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=3D nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Andr=3DE9 Thomas = (fun!!!)<B=3D R> <BR> <BR> Offertory: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Give Me That Old Time Religion = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=3D sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Charles Lloyd, Jr. &nbsp;(even more fun!!!)<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Dick = Rub=3D y, baritone<BR> <FONT COLOR=3D3D"#110000"><BR> Postlude: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Joyful, Joyful = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=3D bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp= ;=3D &nbsp;Christina Harmon<BR> <BR> Hymns:<BR> </FONT>Entrance: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Rejoice, O Pilgrim Throng = &nbsp;&n=3D bsp;(Marion)<BR> Closing: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Let All Things Now Living &nbsp;(The Ash = G=3D rove)<BR> <BR> We have hymn sings on fifth Sundays, so the folks in the pews got to call = o=3D ut their favorites, and we sang 2 verses of each. &nbsp;The inevitable = &quot=3D ;How Great Thou Art&quot; and &quot;What a Friend We Have in Jesus&quot; = als=3D o some fresh faces like &quot;Shine, Jesus, Shine&quot; and = &quot;Alibar=3DE9.&q=3D uot; &nbsp;<BR> <BR> We also sang my new setting of the Lord's Prayer, with the music and text = p=3D rinted in the bulletin. &nbsp;Can't tell yet how well it went over, = because =3D the service went almost twenty-five minutes overlong, and everybody was = gone=3D by the time I descended from the rear balcony. &nbsp;The pastor left me a = n=3D ice note today about it, saying he'd like to have us sing it once a month, = b=3D ut also wondering what to do about the high notes. &nbsp;I imagine that tran=3D sposing it from E-flat to D-flat would solve that problem easily. = &nbsp;Only=3D thing is, who else would want to do it in five flats? &nbsp;C might be = too =3D low; I'll check.<BR> <BR> Christina Harmon of Dallas, Texas, runs the French Organ Music Seminar I = to=3D ok part in in 2001; she's going to do it again in 2003. &nbsp;You can = check =3D out her web site at </FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#0000FF"><FONT = SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT=3D FACE=3D3D"Arial">www.bfoms.com<BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT SIZE=3D3D"2">Randy Runyon<BR> Music Director<BR> Zion Lutheran Church<BR> Hamilton, Ohio<BR> runyonr@muohio.edu<BR> <BR> </FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --MS_Mac_OE_3116264550_2668116_MIME_Part--    
(back) Subject: RE: Weddings and Funerals From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:00:00 -0400   > Perhaps it has something to do with the extraordinary rise in the value = of real estate and property? Weddings are being delayed > as young couples struggle to afford property.   Well, around here (suburban Philadelphia) I don't think that makes any difference. Ya gotta live somewhere, and why not together-- especially if you're struggling to afford. "Two can live as cheaply as one."   So they move in together, and what delays their weddings is the paucity of chic places to hold the reception. For this they might get in line for = over a year, I kid you not. Prior cohabitation doesn't seem to diminish the cachet of the event, when it occurs, in the least.    
(back) Subject: RE: Weddings and Funerals From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 21:09:51 -0400   > Jefferson and Hamilton died within hours of each other, fifty years to = the day after the signing of the Declaration of Independence.   You're correct, except it was Jefferson and John Adams. Hamilton bad been killed much earlier, in a duel with Aaron Burr. Another remarkable fact was that Jefferson and Adams, although bitter opponents for a long time, reconciled in their old age and became close friends largely by correspondence. I seem to recall reading or seeing that Jefferson, at least, knew Adam's health was failing while his own was, so that the two = men were often in each other's minds and prayers (to the extent that they were men of prayer).    
(back) Subject: Questions about Mulet From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 20:18:47 -0500   Don't know much about Mulet - have read Dr. Henderson's blurb. Two questions, both regarding the subject matter of the Byzantine Sketches:   (1) Is the Noel based upon a carol existing at the time, or is the melody also a Mulet creation?   (2) What was the significance of el nombre "Tu es petra" to Mulet? In other words, why did he name it thusly?   Thank thee.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 20:40:03 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: <patmai@juno.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 5:55 PM Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals     > Greetings, Pipechatters, > > Sebastian TubaMagna@aol.com wrote: > > > I believe that both Jefferson and Hamilton > > died within hours of each other, fifty years to the day after the > signing > > of the Declaration of Independence. > > John Adams and musician Thomas Jefferson both died on the 4th of > July. I do not know about Mr. Hamilton.   Far be it from me -- an Englishman -- to point this out, but Alexander Hamilton was killed in a duel with Aaron Burr.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings and Funerals From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 22:01:20 EDT   It was Elmer Fudd and Richard Nixon who fought the duel, and they both = died on February 30th. So much for my memory...