PipeChat Digest #3600 - Thursday, April 10, 2003
 
Re: Copyright protection of sampled sounds
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: Copyright protection of sampled sounds
  by "Peter Harrison" <peter@phmusic.co.uk>
Re: Copyright protection of sampled sounds
  by <DMillerRodgers@aol.com>
Re: Copyright protection of sampled sounds
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Diode and Polarity Question
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
Re: Copyright protection of sampled sounds
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Jackson, TN Organ Recital (x-post)
  by "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com>
Semana Santa in Caracas 02
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
Pedal key contacts
  by <dsmith5195@att.net>
Re: Pedal key contacts
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Re: Copyright protection of sampled sounds
  by "Dan Gawthrop" <arcopizzicato@yahoo.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Copyright protection of sampled sounds From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 04:27:33 -0500   DMillerRodgers@aol.com wrote: > Dear List members, > The following is a response from Rodgers Instruments to the recent = discussion > regarding copyrights and organ samples, and specifically addresses the = issue > of sampling any of Rodgers' sounds.   <snip>   > Any recording or sample of these sounds would constitute copyright > infringement, for which Rodgers would be entitled to damages (including > statutory damages of up to $150,000.00), as well as an injunction = relief.   > You may reasonably assume that Rodgers and Roland will actively seek to > protect all copyrights. The sounds of a Rodgers organ may not be sampled = for > any purpose without express permission from Rodgers to do so.   So, let me get this straight:   If a victim church records a church service for its shut-ins or other purpose in which a Rodgers or Roland instrument are presently and inadvertently records the sounds of those instrument on that tape has to face being pounced upon by those same corporations for copyright infringement because their sounds were recorded?   Or, if someone (and only God would know why!) performs a recital on these instruments and it got recorded, they're in the same boat?   This is how I read what was written above, as I am given to understand this verbose!   It seems to me, then, that the advantages are all on the side of pipe organs since what we have to protect isn't a RECORDING of pipe organ sound, but newly-created sounds each and every time the instrument is used!   I don't happen to know of pipe builders crouching in wait outside locations with their instruments installed therein with high-powered lawyers ready to prosecute "to the fullest extent of the law"!   But then again, I suppose this demonstrates why such pipeless companies are fabulously wealthy by stark contrast to most organbuilders, since they've find ways to "aggressively prosecute" to protect against copying a COPY of the real thing while we organbuilders freely give away the sounds of the real thing every day!   I'm going back to sleep! The "MYSTERIES" of this are just too much for my not-quite-awake feeble brain to comprehend!!   Faithfully,   G.A. (Who apparently needs to find a better LAWYER, instead of trying to improve the sound of his product!!) -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Pipe Organ Builders 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL mailto:arp@starband.net SHOP SATELLITE EMAIL mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME OFFICE EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL  
(back) Subject: Re: Copyright protection of sampled sounds From: "Peter Harrison" <peter@phmusic.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:18:47 +0100   Rodgers' intention is possibly a reasonable desire to prevent their = samples being re-used in other sampling products but the wording of this notice is perhaps a little sweeping. It not only restricts copying of the samples = used to create the organ tone but also any recording of sounds from Rodgers instruments.   To be totally safe from legalistic extrapolation of what may have been the original intention, Rodgers organs should never be used in any recording = of a performance. One might suppose that for such purposes, Rodgers recognise that they are only offering a clone, albeit often a very good one. It is refreshing that they advocate use of the original pipe organ from which = the samples were first derived rather than their own instrument!     Peter M Harrison Director of Music, Emmanuel Church, Holcombe   & P H Music : 48 Moorfield : Edgworth Bolton : Lancs : BL7 0DH : GB fax: +44 (0)1204 853445 : tel: +44 (0)1204 853310 web: www.phmusic.co.uk           Copyright protection of sampled sounds | From: <DMillerRodgers@aol.com> | Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 01:21:39 EDT | | Dear List members, | | The following is a response from Rodgers Instruments to the recent | discussion regarding copyrights and organ samples, and specifically | addresses the issue of sampling any of Rodgers' sounds. | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | In response to the recent discussion of copyright protection for | sampled sounds, I would like to state the position of Rodgers | Instruments: | | .... Any recording or sample of these sounds would constitute copyright | infringement, for which Rodgers would be entitled to damages | (including statutory damages of up to $150,000.00), as well as an | injunction relief.... | Chad Perry | Director -- Sales and Marketing | Rodgers Instruments, LLC | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~    
(back) Subject: Re: Copyright protection of sampled sounds From: <DMillerRodgers@aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:36:14 EDT     --part1_1a5.1222c87c.2bc6b12e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear List members,   I apologize for some misunderstandings / misinterpretations of the Rodgers =   statement that I posted a few hours ago. Certainly it is OK to make audio recordings (tape, CD, video, DVD, broadcast etc) of a Rodgers organ with = no legal problem (except of course obtaining copyright permission or paying royalties on the music recorded or broadcast). The statement responds to = an issue brought up from earlier discussion: directly sampling (another word = for sampling is recording) any of Rodgers' individual stops for the purpose of =   recreating another instrument containing those samples.   Thanks, Dan     Dan Miller Rodgers Instruments LLC   --part1_1a5.1222c87c.2bc6b12e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Dear List members,<BR> <BR> I apologize for some misunderstandings / misinterpretations of the Rodgers = s=3D tatement that I posted a few hours ago. Certainly it is OK to make audio = rec=3D ordings (tape, CD, video, DVD, broadcast etc) of a Rodgers organ with no = leg=3D al problem (except of course obtaining copyright permission or paying = royalt=3D ies on the music recorded or broadcast).&nbsp; The statement responds to = an=3D20=3D issue brought up from earlier discussion: directly sampling (another word = fo=3D r sampling is recording) any of Rodgers' individual stops for the purpose = of=3D recreating another instrument containing those samples.<BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> Dan<BR> <BR> <BR> Dan Miller<BR> Rodgers Instruments LLC<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1a5.1222c87c.2bc6b12e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Copyright protection of sampled sounds From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:25:26 -0500   DMillerRodgers@aol.com wrote: > Dear List members, > I apologize for some misunderstandings / misinterpretations of the > Rodgers statement   <snip>   The statement responds to an issue brought up from > earlier discussion: directly sampling (another word for sampling is > recording) any of Rodgers' individual stops for the purpose of > recreating another instrument containing those samples.   It may be wise to consider revision, then, to that overly-broad statement. Apparently, this IS a necessary if Rodgers has had to prosecute it, although it would seem to me that intentionally copying a copy would have a certain amount of inherent "degrade" to it, sort of like copying a COPY of a key. Do that enough times and the copy of the key several "generations" later won't even WORK correctly (like that Church key!) I figured that's what was *meant*, but I simply couldn't resist a chance to run with this based upon what the wording said. <VEG!>   Faithfully,   G.A.   -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Pipe Organ Builders 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL mailto:arp@starband.net SHOP SATELLITE EMAIL mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME OFFICE EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL  
(back) Subject: Diode and Polarity Question From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:28:08 EDT     --part1_1c6.800bb48.2bc6bd58_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In resonse to my questions......   John V. said, "You're making it all more complicated than it is. You need = a basic knowledge of AC and especially DC Electricity. Not a tough subject, buy = your self a layman's book on this subject and it will all become MUCH clearer = than any of us could explain it here."   R. Ahlven said, "Join list: Eorg-L. There will be more people there who = can answer electronic questions"   Tim said, "Get thee to your local public library and find a good book or = two about basic electricity....Neither of your questions is "rocket science" -- = don't be afraid of all those funny electrical terms!"   Thanks guys for the help. Sorry I'm so dense. I'm not interested in learning how an electronic organ produces its sounds. I'm interested in = pipe organs and I've simply gotten confused with a little of the terminology.   I was on Eorg-L for some time and I got tired of the constant Allen vs. Rodgers vs. Ahlborn vs. Eminent vs. etc. debates interrupted by the occasional never ending traditional vs contemporary and the pastor vs. organist debates.   No longer being a student, it's not practical for me to "hang out" at an organbuilder's shop to get my silly questions answered, so I try to "hang out" with you guys. I did well 25 years ago when we studied electricity = and magnetism in physics class - my main problems were Gauss's Law and = Ampere's Law. We didn't discuss many practical applications, though - and = certainly not pipe organs.   I've been looking up stuff online about diodes and understand what they = do. As I've said previously, my confusion is specific to a couple pipe organ applications. In reality, most of the practical questons that are asked = on this site could be answered if the asker would simply purchase some books.   Thanks so much to Rick M and John Moore (probably from Diyapason-L) for trying to help.   Keith           --part1_1c6.800bb48.2bc6bd58_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">In resonse to my questions......<BR> <BR> John V. said, "You're making it all more complicated than it is. You need = a=3D20=3D basic <BR> knowledge of AC and especially DC Electricity. Not a tough subject, buy = your=3D self a layman's book on this subject and it will all become MUCH clearer = th=3D an any of us could explain it here."<BR> <BR> R. Ahlven said, "Join list: Eorg-L.&nbsp; There will be more people there = wh=3D o can answer electronic questions"<BR> <BR> Tim said, "Get thee to your local public library and find a good book or = two=3D about <BR> basic electricity....Neither of your questions is "rocket science" -- = don't=3D20=3D be afraid of all those funny electrical terms!"<BR> <BR> Thanks guys for the help.&nbsp; Sorry I'm so dense.&nbsp; I'm not = interested=3D in learning how an electronic organ produces its sounds.&nbsp; I'm = interest=3D ed in pipe organs and I've simply gotten confused with a little of the = termi=3D nology. <BR> <BR> I was on Eorg-L for some time and I got tired of the constant Allen vs. = Rodg=3D ers vs. Ahlborn vs. Eminent vs. etc. debates interrupted by the occasional = n=3D ever ending traditional vs contemporary and the pastor vs. organist = debates.=3D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR> No longer being a student, it's not practical for me to "hang out" at an = org=3D anbuilder's shop to get my silly questions answered, so I try to "hang = out"=3D20=3D with you guys.&nbsp; I did well 25 years ago when we studied electricity = and=3D magnetism in physics class - my main problems were Gauss's Law and = Ampere's=3D Law.&nbsp; We didn't discuss many practical applications, though - and = cert=3D ainly not pipe organs.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> I've been looking up stuff online about diodes and understand what they = do.&=3D nbsp; As I've said previously, my confusion is specific to a couple pipe org=3D an applications.&nbsp; In reality, most of the practical questons that are = a=3D sked on this site could be answered if the asker would simply purchase = some=3D20=3D books.<BR> <BR> Thanks so much to Rick M and John Moore (probably from Diyapason-L) for = tryi=3D ng to&nbsp; help.<BR> <BR> Keith<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1c6.800bb48.2bc6bd58_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Copyright protection of sampled sounds From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:09:22 -0500   At 07:25 AM 4/10/03 -0500, you wrote: >later won't even WORK correctly (like that >Church key!)     Do you still have a "church key".?...thought pop tops took care of that..   jch      
(back) Subject: Jackson, TN Organ Recital (x-post) From: "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:55:06 -0500   Dear Friends, This is to let you know that I will be performing an organ recital in the dedication series of the newly-renovated and enlarged Schantz organ at First United Methodist Church, Church and Chester Streets, in Jackson, TN on Sunday, April 27 at 4 PM. The prgoram is as follows:   Trumpet Tune- Andrew Carter   Von Gott, will Ich nicht lassen- Dietrich Buxtehude   Prelude in C Major- Buxtehude   Trio Sonata in G Major-Bach I. Vivace   Veni Creator- Nicolas DeGrigny ______________________________   Saraband for the Morning of Easter- Herbert Howells   Paschal Suite for Trumpet and Organ- Richard Webster Dr. Lee Weimer, Trumpet   Victimae paschali laudes- Craig Phillips   A Prelude for Easter Morning- Gerald Near   Hymn: O Sons and Daughters of the King Concertato setting by Phillip Gehring     Lenten Blessings, Beau Surratt Beau Surratt, Organist St. Peter's UCC, Elmhurst,IL      
(back) Subject: Semana Santa in Caracas 02 From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:55:10 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   Semana Santa in Caracas, part 02   Semana Santa begins on "Councile Friday", that is, Friday before Palm Sunday. The first exodus of "Sunbirds", vacationers who close their busin= ess for the whole week begins, and Caracas empties suddendly. The Venezuelan Catholic Church has a special license to celebrate the memory of the "Dolorosa", the Suffering Mother of Our Lord, on Councile Friday. On som= e places a procession with the image of Our Suffering Lady -all dressed in black with gold embroidery- takes place. In my parish church "Nuestra Se=F1= ora de La Candelaria" there is a solemn Mass at 5,00 Pm, then a solemn Via Crucis, then another solemn Mass at 6,30 Pm with "Sacred Concert" in char= ge of the Symphonic City Orchestra and choir. The "Concierto Sacro" (Sacred Music Concert) on Councile Friday with Work= s by Lamas, Olivares, Carre=F1o, Montero, Sojo and others (see organ histor= y) is a beautiful tradition. In old times it was performed by the Symphonic Orchestra and the "Orfe=F3n Lamas" at the Teatro Municipal. Today it's integrated to the Church. Meanwhile there are so many choral groups and orchestras, each one eager to perform a "Concierto Sacro", that in every major church a "Concierto Sacro", sometimes several ones, takes place. In= my parish church we will have four concerts, for example- Mons. Padilla, our new parish, opened doors to music. This way each group gets a chance, eve= ry major parish gets a Sacred Concert, and people don't have to commute so f= ar in our 5 MM-city.   On Palm Sunday the palms are blessed in every Mass, but in the Solemn Mas= s the palms are blessed at some place outside the church (generally the square), and then a colorful palm procession to the church is made. Peopl= e knit the palm leaves into a cross that is sticked on the inner side of th= e front door at home. In Chacao there remains the tradition of the "palmeros", who between Coun= cil Friday and Saturday afternoon climb on the Avila Mountain, cut down the p= alm leaves, and come back in procession. This tradition and the growing deman= d for palm leaves caused an every year bigger controversy with the Environm= ent Control Department. The "palmeros" were selected by interwiew and had to undergo a special course in environment and flora protection, and then th= ey got a permission- even so the National Guard and the Park Guard had a clo= se eye on them. This year the Avila Trail is closed to public due to the extremely dry season and its consequent bush fire hazard- we'll see how t= he Major of Chacao will manage that! Lately, people were advised to bring th= eir own small branches from trees or bushes to church with them. This gave wa= y to the street vendors to make a Quick Buck selling all kinds of vegetal items- corn ears, palm leaves, the omnipresent Aloe plant or other medici= ne herbs. In my parish the Solemn Mass and the late afternoon Mass will be "harmonized" by another Orchestra and choir with a Sacred Concert this ye= ar, this way I have to play only at 5,00 Pm.   Monday and Tuesday are quiet days in my parish. People go to Santa Teresa Basilika, San Francisco (this year closed for security reasons, however) = or the Cathedral. On Tuesday we remember the "Suffering Man": Jesus tied to = the column. On Holy Wednesday official vacation begins, the last "sunbirds" fly out (= and some "sunbirds" who are churchgoers however come back for their religious duties). In my parish we get full house yet because of the "Nazarenos", people in violet robes who make a pilgrimage through all our major church= es as penitence or thanksgiving action. Since my parish church is very visit= ed because of Jos=E9 Gregorio Hernandez' tomb we have to work hard, and my p= arish gave out the order: "Play all Masses as you can!" (7, 30 am, 12,00 noon, 5,00 pm, 6,30 pm). On the Solemn Mass I perform Jos=E9 Angel Lamas' "Popu= le Meus" and J.D. Montero's "Quiero tu Cruz"- from the works of our "Chacao Masters" these are the most popular ones, and they can be performed by a soloist at the organ... the parish has no Schola yet because my old schol= a was dissolved by the former parish who had nothing in mind with music. The bulk of people goes to Santa Teresa, of course- I never envied Ma=EBs= tro D'Angelo Pasquale, my old colleague there, who had to sit all day long in the wicked heat at the organ (our churches don't have Air Condition). On = the evening the big procession with the "Nazareno de San Pablo" and several thousand people takes place in downtown Caracas.   Holy Thursday in the morning the Sacred Oils are blessed in the Cathedral= by H.E. Cardinal Ignacio Velazco and then carried to each parish in a "Bless= ed Oils Relay-Rallie"- a funny term for a "youth procession" that is done partially by foot, partially by car, scooter, bicycle or skateboard in fo= rm of a relay race- some parishes are pretty far away. This was introduced eight years ago to encourage the youth and gave a good result. At afterno= on the solemn "Last Supper Mass" with feet washing and Procession with the Blessed Sacrament is celebrated in every parish church. After the procession, the Blessed Sacrament is exposed at the "Monument", an altar that is richly decorated with flowers, candles, draperies and more by the parish people. Some Monuments are real artworks, but others show a lot of "Kitsch" like puttos, (plastic) pigeons and the ilk. The churches remain open until late. In old times they remained open in Vigil all the night f= rom Holy Thursday to Holy Friday, but right now this is impossible for securi= ty reasons.   Holy Friday is the apogee of the week. The morning is dedicated to the adoration of the Blessed Sacrament and the "Seven Churches Pilgrimage": people make a pilgrimage visiting seven churches across Caracas. Me too- with a look at the organs and an occasional handshake with one of my old clients. The most visited churches are the historic "temples" in downtown Caracas. My readers should be acquainted with the names right now: Santa Capilla, Cathedral, Santa Teresa, San Francisco, La Merced, La Candelaria= , Maria Auxiliadora (Salesians), San Jos=E9... We have to move among lots o= f people and- watch our pockets because not every pilgrim is a saint. Stree= t vendors show their items in colorful displays on all squares, alleys and surrounding streets; the violet robes of the "Nazarenos", bright scarlet ribbons and Aloe plants can be seen everywhere.   At noon the "Via Crucis", at 3,00 Pm the "Seven Words Preach" takes place= , and at 5,00 pm the Good Friday Liturgy starts (for non catholics: Holy Friday and Holy Saturday are the only days of the year where no Masses ar= e celebrated). The "Seven Words" and the Liturgy (where over thousand peopl= e come to salute the Crucifixus) need plenty of music as stated. Jos=E9 Ang= el Lamas' "Popule Meus" (which lyrics conform the "Improperia") is performed here again. I got some lutheran "smuggle", mostly Bach, in my repertoire. Bach is very little known in our catholic church- to perform a "german protestant"? - gosh!! - not so long ago this was unthinkable!   I always said that Holy Friday is the apogee of Venezuela's dry season. H= eat is infamous, the sun shines mercelessly over the pilgrims. The catholic church commands to "fast and abstinence": one meal a day, no meat. The fi= rst is easy, the second difficult to accomplish in a country where people hav= e to fast everyday for economy reasons; but the price of the fish (our traditional meat substitute) raises to the clouds due to the enormous demand. Since we venezuelans however are rather sporty with rules and regulations, the Ice- and Sodapopmen everywhere and the (ever open) brasserie nearby my parish church have a good business anyway. In the late afternoon the processions with the holy images through the streets take place. Sometimes the most important processions are accompan= ied by the Firefighters, Police and National Guard Bands; but in the last decades the use of portable but high powered sound equipments became a (rather discutable) substitute. If there is no Band I prefer processions where people sing 'evergreens' by their own!   Holy Saturday is a day of rest- excepting for the Sacristans who have to clean up the mess by thousands of pilgrims, disassemble the Monument and prepare the Easter Vigil. The "Judas Puppets" appear on the streets. The "Quema de Judas" (Burn-the-Judas), a local counterpart to Guy Fawkes in England, takes place between Holy Saturday and Easter Sunday: A life-size puppet that represents Judas Ishariot is made by youth and kids groups, exposed at the streets on Holy Saturday and Easter Sunday, and by passers have to give "a Penny" (=3D100 Bolivar up). It's tradition to dress and f= ace the puppet as a nasty character -almost a politician- who is considered a traitor or "persona non grata" by the people.   The "Vigilia Pascual" (Easter Vigil) in good old times took place on midnight, then at 9,00 pm and now it's at 8,00 pm for security reasons. (= The Protestants make the Vigily at Easter Sunday 6,00 am). I have old Missals, and every time I read the guidelines of the ancient Resurrection Ceremony I am glad that I live in modern times. Anyway, in a= ll these years I never saw a Easter Vigil without an accident. The reason: W= e all are tired from Holy Thursday and Friday's activities, and even with a= ll the modern abridgements the ceremony is quite complicate. In my parish church it was decided to bless the water at 6,00 pm at the square- this w= ay we avoid the mess by dropped water bottles and get rid of "once-a-year-christians" who come only to church because of the blessed water, which is considered a "miracle medicine" by so many. In the last years, the Youth Group of my parish plus Schola Guitarum took over the music at the Vigil. This year that we have a new parish we'll se= e. But since I have to cross several rather sordid neighbourhoods on the way from the church to my home I won't be upset if the Schola Guitarum wants = to play and I haven't to undertake such an adventure trip at 10,30 pm.   Easter Sunday we have a solemn mass after another- Holy week is over, Eas= ter time begins. At late afternoon the Judas Puppets are burned and the "sunbirds" come back to the city. Caracas comes back to normal life, and = on Easter Monday the Avenida Urdaneta shows anew the usual traffic jam.   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.      
(back) Subject: Pedal key contacts From: <dsmith5195@att.net> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 17:27:28 +0000   Hello all. I have a digital 2/25 AGO pedal Baldwin in my apt. A couple of the pedals =   sound like there's a short in the contact in them; that is when depressed =   slowly, the sound kind of goes on and off; even when fully depressed = sometimes the same thing. Would a can of compressed air aimed at the front of the = pedal holes clean any contacts that are there -- if that's where they are at -- = above or beneath the felt bumpers in the front of the pedal board. Also, would compressed air clean out dirt in the manuals -- thinking of depressing the = keys and spraying between top of key and felt pad. Or might this kind of home remedy mess things up by moving dirt around?   Thanks for any suggestions.   Donald Smith  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedal key contacts From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:58:28 -0400   At 05:27 PM 4/10/2003 +0000, you wrote: >Hello all. >I have a digital 2/25 AGO pedal Baldwin in my apt. A couple of the = pedals >sound like there's a short in the contact in them; that is when = depressed >slowly, the sound kind of goes on and off; even when fully depressed >sometimes >the same thing. Would a can of compressed air aimed at the front of the >pedal >holes clean any contacts that are there -- if that's where they are at -- =   >above >or beneath the felt bumpers in the front of the pedal board. Also, would >compressed air clean out dirt in the manuals -- thinking of depressing = the >keys >and spraying between top of key and felt pad. Or might this kind of home >remedy mess things up by moving dirt around? > >Thanks for any suggestions. > >Donald Smith Donald,   If this is a Baldwin, Italian made job, they have lots of pedalboard contact problems. Best thing to do is, pull the pedalboard from the console, remove the wooden cover, and have a look at the offending contact. It is a simple crossover contact, so best to just change the contact points, by bending the buss bar. That should aleviate the problem. The pedalboards were the weakest points in terms of reliability on these organs.   Arie V.      
(back) Subject: Re: Copyright protection of sampled sounds From: "Dan Gawthrop" <arcopizzicato@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:36:36 -0700 (PDT)     --- Richard Schneider <arpschneider@starband.net> wrote: > Apparently, this IS a necessary if > Rodgers has had to > prosecute it, although it would seem to me that > intentionally copying a > copy would have a certain amount of inherent > "degrade" to it, sort of > like copying a COPY of a key.   Not so. Digital copies do not "degrade" through any number of generations. The tenth or fiftieth or ten-thousandth copy is identical to the first and to all the others. That's one of the reasons why copyright owners are becoming more aggressive about defending their intellectual property.   Samples of this kind can very easily be used as the "guts" of another sampled instrument--that's what Rodgers was trying to prevent.   Dan Gawthrop   __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com