PipeChat Digest #3603 - Saturday, April 12, 2003
 
Tools aka My first post to this list
  by "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Dave Wickerham Plays Rochester Wurlitzer tomorrow (cross-posted)
  by "Kenneth Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com>
Re: Digitally Created Electronic Sounds
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
 

(back) Subject: Tools aka My first post to this list From: "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:09:32 -0400   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ----__JNP_000_06d0.74e3.26fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     Greetings:   This is my first post. I beg your indulgence if I make errors in format etc.   I am posting to announce the availability of some rare tools for organ-building. The following is an exerpt from a mailing that went out to Orgue-l and to PIPORG-L.     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FOR SALE     1. Set of six graduated toe-cups of machined and polished steel. With these you can produce the nicely rounded traditional American "Closed" Toe. An imperative regulation tool, they are available at $180.00 per set, post-paid in the "lower 48."   2. Set of two polished steel reed burnishing blocks (one for higher pressure). These blocks pick up where the Laukhuff/OSI block leaves you high-and-dry. $175.00 per set post-paid in the "lower 48."   3. Set of eleven, self-centering polished-steel toe-hole burners. Chucked in a drill press and spun at high speed these will burn a nice chamfer, and burn-polish the inside straight portion of the hole as well! $190.00 per set post-paid in the "lower 48."     We had these tools made for us, because they are very difficult, if not impossible to acquire. Realizing this, we decided to offer tham to the trade at a markup geared only to offset the excessive CNC tooling costs. We believe you will find them quite in-expensive.   >>>>>>>>>>>>>JPG's available on request.<<<<<<<<<<<<<<     Several questions have been posed since we offered them to the Orgue-l and PIPORG-L mailing lists.. I will answer them en mass, here, for the benefit of all. 1. To the best of my knowledge the reed curving blocks are copies of: a) one used at Gottfried for higher pressure work, and b) one designed by Adolph Zajec (sp?) for moderate pressures. This one duplicates the Laukhuff block, but offers a bit more "lead-in-curve" for long tongues, and continues the tip, logarithmically beyond that of the Laukhuff block. 2. The blocks are very heavy, and need not be bolted down. They work well in the chamber because of this. 3. The photos of the two blocks are a little misleading, they are prototypes. The blocks, as ordered, will both be the width of the wider one, and should come out with a better finish. There are a few prototypes available for 5% discount. 4. The Toe-Hole Burners are spun into a simple drill hole, and accomplish the countersinking as well as the burning. They are best used in a drill press. 5. Enough expressed interest could spur us to make a metric set of burners. 6. The toe cups are made for hand use. They could be loose mounted upside-down in a rack, with a 1939 Ford Camshaft spinning below them, causing them to bounce up and down. (Don't laugh, this is what they did at Moller. It amazed me how quickly a pipe could be moved along the bouncing cups and end up with a perfect round toe.) Some of you asked about spinning them. I could inquire with the machine shop about lathing a set for spin burning, but that would have to be at an additional cost per unit, which could be rather high. If you really want to spin burn, we have occasionally done this with an organ supply bronze cup which we lathed for a chuckable shank. We experienced NO increase in efficiency. In fact, softened bits of pipe metal tended to cause problems. 7. There are a few finished sets of toe cups available for immediate shipping. 8. The web site is not yet up, but any missing information can be supplied by myself, at my e-mail address: mcfarland6@juno.com . Just ask! Orders will be accepted now. Shipping is free in the lower 48 states. No orders will be accepted without payment. Receipt of goods can be expected in four to six weeks. Checks and orders should be mailed to: SDG Organ Service PO Box 7 Millersville, PA 17551-0007 Set of Curving Blocks: $175.00 Set of Toe Cones $180.00 Set of Toe Hole Burners $190.00   10% off for ordering all three sets simultaneously. Please feel free to forward this message to others. Thank you for your interest, Jim McFarland Technical Director SDG Organs ----__JNP_000_06d0.74e3.26fb Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; = charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bottomMargin=3D3D0 leftMargin=3D3D3 topMargin=3D3D0 = rightMargin=3D3D3> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Greetings:</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>This is my first post.&nbsp; I beg your indulgence if I make errors = in=3D =3D20 format etc.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I am posting to announce the availability of some rare tools for=3D20 organ-building.</DIV> <DIV>The following is an exerpt from a mailing that went out to Orgue-l = and=3D =3D20 to</DIV> <DIV>PIPORG-L.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</DIV> <DIV>FOR SALE</DIV> <DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV> <DIV>1.&nbsp; Set of six graduated toe-cups of machined and polished=3D20 steel.&nbsp;With these you can produce the nicely rounded traditional =3D American=3D20 "Closed" Toe.&nbsp;&nbsp;An imperative regulation tool, they are = available=3D =3D20 at&nbsp;$180.00 per set, post-paid in the "lower 48."</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>2.&nbsp; Set of two polished steel&nbsp;reed burnishing blocks (one = =3D for=3D20 higher pressure).&nbsp; &nbsp;These blocks pick up where the Laukhuff/OSI = =3D block=3D20 leaves you high-and-dry.&nbsp; $175.00 per set post-paid in the = "lower=3D20 48."</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>3.&nbsp; Set of eleven, self-centering polished-steel toe-hole=3D20 burners.&nbsp; Chucked in a drill press and spun at high speed these will = =3D burn a=3D20 nice chamfer, and burn-polish the inside straight portion of the hole = as=3D20 well!&nbsp;&nbsp; $190.00 per set post-paid in the "lower 48."</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>We had these tools made for us, because they are very difficult, if = =3D not=3D20 impossible to acquire.&nbsp; Realizing this, we decided to offer tham to = =3D the=3D20 trade at a markup geared only to offset the excessive CNC tooling = costs.&=3D nbsp;=3D20 We believe you will find them quite in-expensive.&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><STRONG>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;JPG's =3D available=3D20 on=3D20 request.&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;</STRONG><= =3D BR><BR>&nbsp;<BR><BR>Several=3D20 questions have been posed since we offered them to the Orgue-l and = PIPORG-L=3D =3D20 mailing lists..&nbsp; I will answer them en mass, here, for the benefit = of=3D =3D20 all.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>1. To the best of my knowledge the reed curving blocks = =3D are=3D20 copies of:<BR>a) one used at Gottfried for higher pressure work, and<BR>b) = =3D one=3D20 designed by Adolph Zajec (sp?)&nbsp; for moderate pressures.&nbsp; This = one=3D =3D20 duplicates the Laukhuff&nbsp; block, but offers a bit more&nbsp;=3D20 "lead-in-curve"&nbsp; for long tongues, and continues the tip, =3D logarithmically=3D20 beyond that of the Laukhuff block.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>2. The blocks are very =3D heavy,=3D20 and need not be bolted down.&nbsp; They work well in the chamber because = of=3D =3D20 this.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>3. The photos of the two blocks are a little = misleading,=3D they=3D20 are prototypes. The blocks, as ordered, will both be the width of the = wider=3D one,=3D20 and should come out with a better finish.&nbsp; There are a few = prototypes=3D =3D20 available for 5% discount.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>4. The Toe-Hole Burners are spun = =3D into a=3D20 simple drill hole, and accomplish the countersinking as well as the = burning=3D ..=3D20 They are best used in a drill press.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>5.&nbsp; Enough = expressed=3D =3D20 interest could spur us to make a metric set of burners.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>6.&=3D nbsp;=3D20 The toe cups are made for hand use.&nbsp; They could be loose mounted=3D20 upside-down in a rack, with a 1939 Ford Camshaft spinning below them, =3D causing=3D20 them to bounce up and down.&nbsp; (Don't laugh, this is what they did = at=3D20 Moller.&nbsp; It amazed me how quickly a pipe could be moved along the =3D bouncing=3D20 cups and end up with a perfect round toe.)&nbsp; Some of you asked = about=3D20 spinning them. I could inquire with the machine shop about lathing a set = =3D for=3D20 spin burning, but that would have to be at an additional cost per unit, = =3D which=3D20 could be rather high. 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No orders will be accepted = without=3D =3D20 payment.<BR>Receipt of goods can be expected in four to six weeks.<BR>=3D Checks and=3D20 orders should be mailed to: <BR>&nbsp;<BR>SDG Organ Service<BR>PO Box=3D20 7<BR>Millersville, PA&nbsp; 17551-0007<BR>&nbsp;<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Set of =3D Curving=3D20 Blocks:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&= =3D nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 $175.00<BR>Set of Toe=3D20 Cones&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=3D=   nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D2= 0 $180.00<BR>Set of Toe Hole=3D20 Burners&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&= =3D nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 $190.00</DIV> <DIV><BR>10% off for ordering all three sets = simultaneously.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>=3D Please=3D20 feel free to forward this message to others.<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Thank you for = =3D your=3D20 interest,<BR>&nbsp;<BR>Jim McFarland<BR>Technical Director<BR>SDG=3D20 Organs<BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ----__JNP_000_06d0.74e3.26fb--    
(back) Subject: Dave Wickerham Plays Rochester Wurlitzer tomorrow (cross-posted) From: "Kenneth Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 17:41:17 -0400   A reminder that the Rochester Theater Organ Society is very pleased to announce that Dave Wickerham returns to play our 4/23 Wurlitzer at 8 PM on Saturday, April 12. This stellar musical event takes place at the = Auditorium Center, 875 East Main Street, Rochester, NY 14605. A very talented = musician, a wonderful Wurlitzer and large theater acoustics combine to provide you a superb opportunity to hear a glorious example of theater pipe organ entertainment at its finest! Tickets for only $10 each are available at = the door one hour before the concert.   Regards, Ken Evans http://theatreorgans.com/rochestr/   P.S. - Our 2003 ice storm is only a memory-thank goodness!    
(back) Subject: Re: Digitally Created Electronic Sounds From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 20:31:39 -0500       Nichols, Joseph A. wrote:   > I have noticed the discussion of samples the last few days on the > message board. I do not understand why so many people prefer sampling > in electronic instruments. > As a pipe organ builder, I have no particular axe to grind as to which brand of electronic people might wish to choose over another, but I must say I am in complete agreement with Mr. Nichols on this subject. Pipe organs are normally scaled and voiced for the particular room for which they are built, and when they are moved from one location to another they often require modification to suit their new acoustic environment. Except perhaps in the case of certain exotic solo stops, I cannot see why anyone would think it desirable to sample the organ from one building in order to make a suitable instrument for another. Sure, it is a cheap and easy way to produce some kind of approximation to organ sound, but it is no substitute for a properly designed instrument that is scaled and voiced for its location. This is true not only of the individual stops, but especially so of the choruses and the full organ sound, where the relative scales of the individual ranks in a chorus must be carefully chosen to produce the ensemble. The logical way to go around this is the same for the pipe organ builder and for the electronic organ builder alike -- to use their brains and their ears to create a sound that is just right for the particular instrument and building they are working on, and whatever else might be said, that is the.same for pewter and silicon alike.   John Speller