PipeChat Digest #3607 - Monday, April 14, 2003
 
Re: Felix Borowski
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
RE: aeolian-skinner + chicaleee
  by "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
Re: Felix Borowski
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Digital organs -  and why they don't...
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
RE: Digital organs -  and why they don't sound real.
  by "=3D?Windows-1252?B?QW5kculzIEf8bnRoZXI=3D?=3D" <agun@telcel.n
Re: aeolian-skinner + chicaleee
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
Re: Clarence Eddy /  Virgil Fox /
  by "Mattcinnj" <mattcinnj@yahoo.com>
Re: Digital organs -  and why they don't...
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com>
RE: Digital organs -  and why they don't sound real.
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Clarence Eddy
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
OHS Symposium on Organ Research
  by "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org>
OHS Euro-Tour 2003 -- space available
  by "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org>
RE: aeolian-skinner + chicaleee
  by "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
Re: Clarence Eddy /  Virgil Fox /
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
RE: aeolian-skinner + chicaleee
  by <patmai@juno.com>
Re: aeolian-skinner + chicaleee
  by "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca>
Re: aeolian-skinner + chicaleee
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Felix Borowski From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:05:10 -0400   Hi Colin, and Others Interested,   Here is what I wrote about Borowski in connection with a recital by Robert Woodward at the OHS Convention in Chicago last summer:   "Felix Borowski (1872-1956) . . . Meditation - Elegie. We heard more Borowski during the rest of this convention. He was a big man in Chicago, once President of the Chicago Musical College, resigning in 1916 to become a full-time composer and critic. He was Music Critic for the Chicago Sun-Times, and for 50 years, wrote program notes for the Chicago Symphony. Mr Woodward's inclusion of this work in today's program was a nice touch. This Meditation-Elegie, part of a Suite for Grand Organ, was played by Wilhelm Middelschulte at the dedication of this Hutchings Organ in 1910!"   There is more about him, including a works list, in John Henderson, and = also the news that Borowski was born near Kendal in the Lake District. So, he = was one of yours - for a while!   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 9:27 AM Subject: Felix Borowski     > Hello, > > I was left some music, which has been languishing in > various dark corners for some time. With a recent > move of address and a great deal of upheaval, I took > the opportunity of throwing out junk, which included > some fairly awful music. > > However, I came across various copies of organ music > and decided to try them before trashing them. > > I came across the 1st Sonata and an organ Suite by > Felix Borowski, both published around 1900 -4. > > The Suite seems rather better than the Sonata. > > Some of the harmonic twists are very interesting, and > if not great music, they are not rubbish. > > The copy was published by Laudy & Co., London. > > Does anyone know anything about Felix Borowski? > > Dr Pearce, writing in "The Organist & Choirmaster" > said of the Suite, "This is a strikingly original > work.........a work which is far and above finer than > most of the current organ music of the day." > > My other related question concerns Clarence Eddy, to > whom the Borowski Suite is dedicated. > > Somewhere in an equally dark corner of my memory, the > name Clarence Eddy is filed in the American department > of my brain. I feel that I should know the name....... > > Who was he? > > Regards, > > Colin MItchell UK >      
(back) Subject: RE: aeolian-skinner + chicaleee From: "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:21:27 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000D_01C301E1.1E7B6AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Are you getting Married Lee or are you playing a wedding on an aeolian-skinner?   Andy -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Chicaleee@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 12:35 AM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: aeolian-skinner + chicaleee     What do you get when you combine Aeolian Skinner and a Chicaleee? A. A bird in the belfry? B. A tweety pipe? C. A June wedding.   Lee and Keith.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000D_01C301E1.1E7B6AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dus-ascii">     <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D125582021-13042003><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D size=3D3D2>Are=3D20 you getting Married Lee or are you playing a wedding on an=3D20 aeolian-skinner?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D125582021-13042003><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D   size=3D3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D125582021-13042003><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D   size=3D3D2>Andy</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=3D3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3D3Dltr align=3D3Dleft><FONT =3D face=3D3DTahoma=3D20 size=3D3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =3D pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]<B>On Behalf Of=3D20 </B>Chicaleee@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 13, 2003 12:35=3D20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> pipechat@pipechat.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> =3D aeolian-skinner +=3D20 chicaleee<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT =3D lang=3D3D0=3D20 face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#400040 size=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">What = do you =3D get when you=3D20 combine Aeolian Skinner and a Chicaleee?<BR>A.&nbsp; A bird in the=3D20 belfry?<BR>B.&nbsp; A tweety pipe?<BR>C.&nbsp; A June =3D wedding.<BR><BR>Lee and=3D20 Keith.&nbsp; </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000D_01C301E1.1E7B6AE0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Borowski From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:00:48 -0400   On 4/13/03 2:54 PM, "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> wrote:   > I remember reading that his > standard wedding fee was ten thousand dollars (US), at a time when a > dollar was a day's wage for a skilled tradesman.   Which translates to (quite roughly) one million dollars for a wedding? I gather, then, that he supplied the pipe organ, and left it there as a = gift!   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Digital organs - and why they don't... From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 12:44:04 EDT     --part1_1ee.6a97bb2.2bcc3f54_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/14/2003 12:20:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ascott@ptd.net writes:   > Why a real > pipe organ is NEVER in tune and a digital organ always is. Interesting. = I >   my experience with electronics besides big "A" is that there are random = de- tunes and random voicing fluctuations and stretching that keeps the organ from being a sterile recording. I dont believe that they will ever figure =   out how to get changes from ambient temperature and change in temp from = the blower.   in the meantime, afford pipes? only way to go.   dale   --part1_1ee.6a97bb2.2bcc3f54_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated 4/14/2003 12:20:21 PM Eastern = Day=3D light Time, ascott@ptd.net writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#000000"=3D style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"A=3D rial" LANG=3D3D"0">Why a real<BR> pipe organ is NEVER in tune and a digital organ always is. Interesting. = I<BR=3D > </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D2=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" FACE=3D3D"Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> my experience with electronics besides big "A" is that there are random = de-=3D20=3D tunes and random voicing fluctuations and stretching that keeps the organ = fr=3D om being a sterile recording.&nbsp; I dont believe that they will ever = figur=3D e out how to get changes from ambient temperature and change in temp from = th=3D e blower. <BR> <BR> in the meantime, afford pipes? only way to go.<BR> <BR> dale</FONT></HTML>   --part1_1ee.6a97bb2.2bcc3f54_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: Digital organs - and why they don't sound real. From: "=3D?Windows-1252?B?QW5kculzIEf8bnRoZXI=3D?=3D" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 13:25:28 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   Antoni's posting matches with a (constructive) discussion I am having with = a violoncellist colleague- we perform chamber music every Saturday; me = playing the BC. We have a digital keyboard with a great harpsichord sound and a "real" Virginal. Hands on favourite: The Virginal. Reason: My colleague feels uneasy with the "always perfect tuned" digital keyboard.   When I tune a pipe organ with electronic aid (only in rooms with tricky accoustics or when I have no time for Temperament layout) always some = people complain about its "cold" or "lifeless" sound.   Another cause of the unreal sound of digitals could be the sound "source"- I guess that squeezing the sound of 90 ranks into four = loudspeaker systems (given as example only) contributes to "unrealistic" sound too. To achieve a real pipe effect would need a wickedly expensive and complicate loudspeaker installation...   Cheers Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.      
(back) Subject: Re: aeolian-skinner + chicaleee From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 13:32:12 EDT     --part1_130.1e37e2ad.2bcc4a9c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Keith Morgan (alias Aeolian_Skinner) and I are getting married June 8. = Lee   --part1_130.1e37e2ad.2bcc4a9c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#400040" SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D =3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Keith Morgan (alias = Aeolian_Skinner=3D ) and I are getting married June 8.&nbsp; Lee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_130.1e37e2ad.2bcc4a9c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Clarence Eddy / Virgil Fox / From: "Mattcinnj" <mattcinnj@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:41:06 -0700 (PDT)   --0-1976306114-1050342066=3D:80106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii   If I remember correctly, Virgil was no stranger to having experiences that = are considered paranormal. I may be wrong, but I also believe Virgil = believed in reincarnation. Maybe Virgil was the Clarence Eddy of today = instead of the opposite. This brings up another topic that I find = interesting. I have known a goodly number of professional organists, = organ builders, and organ technicians over the past 40 years. All of them = have one thing in common. There are(were) very sensitive to all kinds of = paranormal experiences, hearing things, seeing things, etc. Most related = stories of having very vivid dreams in which pipe organs were heard to = sound beautiful beyond description. The same descriptions came up over and = over. Strings were (are) said to sound if the pipes were made of silver, = Reeds had a clarity and "motion" that went right to your heart, Diapasons = were said to sound if the pipes were 50 feet long. ... Some voicers told = me they were always striving to get those sounds in their wo     --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more --0-1976306114-1050342066=3D:80106 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii   <DIV>If I remember correctly, Virgil was no stranger to having experiences = that are considered paranormal. I may be wrong, but I also believe Virgil = believed in reincarnation. Maybe Virgil was the Clarence Eddy of today = instead of the opposite.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>This brings up&nbsp; another topic that I find interesting.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;I have known a goodly number of professional organists, organ = builders, and organ technicians over the past 40 years.&nbsp; All of them = have one thing in common. There are(were) very sensitive to all kinds of = paranormal experiences, hearing things, seeing things, etc. Most related = stories of having very vivid dreams in which pipe organs were heard to = sound beautiful beyond description. The same descriptions came up over and = over. Strings were (are)&nbsp; said to sound if the pipes were made of = silver, Reeds had a clarity and&nbsp;"motion" that went right to your = heart, Diapasons were said to sound if the pipes were 50 feet long. = ...&nbsp;Some voicers told me they were always striving to get those = sounds in their work, but never could.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I wonder if the very nature of pipe organs, with all those vibrations = and harmonics actually have an effect beyond what we normally consider. = Maybe they cause some kind of "sensitising" to our normal senses. This may = be a very subtle reason why E-orgs just don't have the same effect, no = matter how realistic they sound ??</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I wouldn't be surprised if I'm not&nbsp;the only one on this = list&nbsp;who has come across&nbsp;experiences of this nature.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Matt</DIV><p><br><hr size=3D1>Do you Yahoo!?<br> <a = href=3D"http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/mailsig/*http://tax.yahoo.com">Yahoo= ! Tax Center</a> - File online, calculators, forms, and more --0-1976306114-1050342066=3D:80106--  
(back) Subject: Re: Digital organs - and why they don't... From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:39:19 -0400   Yeah, BUT..   A well designed digital played by a skilled musician will entertain or inspire us.   ...or leave us cold     Raping of National Treasures happens, both here and abroad. That is a GIVEN.   Who will save that organ in Boardwalk Hall that most of us on these lists have never heard 'live'?   Or after the asbestos is gone..   Seal it and maybe sometime in a more enlighted time   People will restore that glorious instrument.   (s**t! Costs a hell of a lot less than various planned 'Wars'(c))   Cut Cable??   Is that what is going on Nationwide silencing Pipe Organs FOREVER?   Stan (sorry for the Rant)   Antoni Scott wrote: > > All: > > Great comments, but we are getting away from the original topic. > I, too, have heard some outstanding stuff played on digital instruments, > stuff that couldn't be duplicated on pipes. > > To start over again: > > Thank God for pipes !!! those horrendously expensive pipes !!!!    
(back) Subject: RE: Digital organs - and why they don't sound real. From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 15:33:37 -0400   At 01:25 PM 4/14/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Andres Gunther >agun@telcel.net.ve > >Antoni's posting matches with a (constructive) discussion I am having = with a >violoncellist colleague- we perform chamber music every Saturday; me = playing >the BC. We have a digital keyboard with a great harpsichord sound and a >"real" Virginal. Hands on favourite: The Virginal. Reason: My colleague >feels uneasy with the "always perfect tuned" digital keyboard. > >When I tune a pipe organ with electronic aid (only in rooms with tricky >accoustics or when I have no time for Temperament layout) always some = people >complain about its "cold" or "lifeless" sound. > >Another cause of the unreal sound of digitals could be the sound >"source"- I guess that squeezing the sound of 90 ranks into four = loudspeaker >systems (given as example only) contributes to "unrealistic" sound too. = To >achieve a real pipe effect would need a wickedly expensive and complicate >loudspeaker installation... > >Cheers >Andres   Andres,   I don't know why electronic instruments have the quality you describe to them, but I agree for the most part. Part of the problem is speakers move =   air differently than acoustic instruments. Other problems are pretty much =   cost related, such as limited hardware, limited and cheap audio, poor installation and set-up.   The electronic instrument problem is that in general they could be a lot better, but then the price would go way up too. And that is what a lot of =   electronic instruments face, if the cost is too high, might as well buy = the real thing.   Regards,   Arie V.      
(back) Subject: Clarence Eddy From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 19:59:41 +0000   I think that Vierne dedicated one of his oeuvres to Clarence Eddy - this = is tucked away in a distant corner of my far flung brain. You can find out about him at http://www.ohscatalog.org/ohscatalog/osclared18de.html though this is not nearly so much fun as discussing it on the list! PS - I thought you had passed away Colin, and was preparing a eulogy for your memorial service - but it will have to keep till later ..... ! John   www.johnfoss.gr         _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/junkmail    
(back) Subject: OHS Symposium on Organ Research From: "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 16:23:31 -0400   On Wednesday next week, April 23, about 60 of us who are interested in = organ history and research will meet in Princeton, New Jersey. Space is = available for more who would like to attend. Online registration, a schedule, and additional information for the symposium, "Current Perspectives in Organ Research," is available at http://www.organsociety.org Rooms are still available at the Princeton Courtyard Marriott (contact information at the website listed) at the special rate despite the fact that the rate was to have expired on April 2. Registration can also be made 9:30 a.m. to 5 p.m. Monday through Friday by telephone to 804-353-9226.   Presentations will be made by several organbuilders and scholars, among = them Jack Bethards, Bruce Fowkes, Paul Fritts, Laurence Libin, Barbara Owen, = Uwe Pape, Paul Peeters, William Peterson, Rollin Smith, and Andrew Unsworth. Lynn Edwards Butler will play the new Richards, Fowkes & Co. organ at = Christ Church, New Brunswick, NJ, on Thursday evening, April 24, and Joan Lippincott will play the Paul Fritts organ at Princeton Theological = Seminary on Friday evening, April 25. Other presenters include Allison Alcorn-Oppedahl, Scot Huntington, N. Lee Orr, and Stephen Pinel.   The event is the second one devoted to matters of organ history and = research and based at the OHS American Organ Archives located at Talbott Library of Westminster Choir College in Princeton.      
(back) Subject: OHS Euro-Tour 2003 -- space available From: "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 16:58:21 -0400   Spaces remain available for a few people who would like to join the Organ Historical Society's tour to organs in Sweden, July 22 to August 4. We'll see and hear 35 or more organs, historic and modern, baroque and romantic, including the large organ of 1871 at the Cathedral in Uppsala, the famous 1728 Cahman organ in Leufsta Bruk, and new organs built in various = historic styles, especially in Goteborg. The tour will begin and end in Stockholm, with a great loop of travel throughout the country. Each organ will be briefly demonstrated, then participants who wish to play the organ may do = so (on most of the organs, though one or two may be restricted).   The fee of $2,300 includes hotel accommodations for 14 nights, all breakfasts, tour bus transportation, etc.   This summer's tour will be the ninth conducted by OHS. Each year, we have = a new itinerary which is generally announced around Thanksgiving. In most years, the tour is sold out by early February. This year, we're almost = sold out. Perhaps the international situation has affected the registration. Also, organ people don't know why they want to visit organs in Sweden, largely because they don't connect the organs to repertoire -- much like organs in the U. S. have little world-recognized and beloved repertoire composed for them, specifically. But, as in the U. S., the Swedish organs are distinctive, beautiful and fascinating. So is the country.   Please write to me, personally for more information, or even better, = contact the chairman of the OHS Euro-Tour committee, Bruce B. Stevens, at eurotour@organsociety.org      
(back) Subject: RE: aeolian-skinner + chicaleee From: "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 20:09:22 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0014_01C302C1.BE19C750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Congratulations! -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Chicaleee@aol.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 1:32 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: aeolian-skinner + chicaleee     Keith Morgan (alias Aeolian_Skinner) and I are getting married June 8. Lee   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0014_01C302C1.BE19C750 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dus-ascii">     <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D500150900-15042003><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D   size=3D3D2>Congratulations!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=3D3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3D3Dltr align=3D3Dleft><FONT =3D face=3D3DTahoma=3D20 size=3D3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =3D pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]<B>On Behalf Of=3D20 </B>Chicaleee@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 14, 2003 1:32=3D20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> pipechat@pipechat.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =3D aeolian-skinner=3D20 + chicaleee<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT =3D lang=3D3D0=3D20 face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#400040 size=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">Keith = =3D Morgan (alias=3D20 Aeolian_Skinner) and I are getting married June 8.&nbsp; Lee</FONT>=3D20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0014_01C302C1.BE19C750--    
(back) Subject: Re: Clarence Eddy / Virgil Fox / From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 20:16:35 -0400   At 10:41 AM 4/14/03 -0700, Matt wrote: >If I remember correctly, Virgil was no stranger to having experiences = that >are considered paranormal.   <snip>   > I have known a goodly number of professional organists, organ builders, =   > and organ technicians over the past 40 years. All of them have one = thing > in common. There are(were) very sensitive to all kinds of paranormal > experiences, hearing things, seeing things, etc. Most related stories of =   > having very vivid dreams <snip>     Hmmm, Matt...   One more trait many "professional organists, organ builders, and organ technicians" have been known to exhibit...(and Virgil too, I think -- = dunno about Clarence) ;-) ;-)   The propensity (and capacity) to consume large amounts of alcoholic beverages...!   Perhaps the two are related somehow...?? <lolololol>   Tim          
(back) Subject: RE: aeolian-skinner + chicaleee From: <patmai@juno.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 20:26:29 -0400   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ----__JNP_000_54ed.0789.6cba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Dear Lee and Keith,   Congratulations and best wishes to both of you! This is wonderful news!   Hmm.. I am curious.. Are you the first couple to become engaged after meeting online at Pipechat?   Happy Holy Week organ practice, choir rehearsals and services to all from the now delightful Hudson Valley of New York,   Pat Maimone Post Chapel West Point, NY Oct 1975 - June 2003   -----Original Message----- From: Chicaleee@aol.com Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 1:32 PM Subject: Re: aeolian-skinner + chicaleee Keith Morgan (alias Aeolian_Skinner) and I are getting married June 8. Lee ----__JNP_000_54ed.0789.6cba Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; = charset=3D3Dus-ascii"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>Dear Lee and Keith,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Congratulations and best wishes = =3D to=3D20 both of you! </DIV> <DIV>This is wonderful news!</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hmm..&nbsp; I am = curious..=3D =3D20 &nbsp;Are you the first&nbsp;couple to become engaged after meeting = online=3D =3D20 at&nbsp;Pipechat? </DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Happy Holy Week organ =3D practice,=3D20 choir rehearsals and services to all </DIV> <DIV>from the now&nbsp;delightful Hudson Valley of New York,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pat Maimone</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Post Chapel</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; West Point, NY</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Oct 1975 - June 2003</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DTahoma size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DTahoma size=3D3D2>-----Original = Message-----<BR><B>From:</B=3D >&nbsp;<A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Chicaleee@aol.com">Chicaleee@aol.com</A><BR><B>Sent:</B> = =3D Monday,=3D20 April 14, 2003 1:32 PM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: aeolian-skinner +=3D20 chicaleee<BR></FONT><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 = face=3D3D=3D Arial=3D20 color=3D3D#400040 size=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">Keith Morgan (alias = Aeolian_=3D Skinner) and=3D20 I are getting married June 8.&nbsp; Lee</FONT> </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ----__JNP_000_54ed.0789.6cba--     ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com  
(back) Subject: Re: aeolian-skinner + chicaleee From: "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 22:03:06 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_003A_01C302D1.A0ECF4D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Will the service be held live on Pipechat IRC? @-'-,-----   Are we all invited? ------=3D_NextPart_000_003A_01C302D1.A0ECF4D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dwindows-1252"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Will the service be held live on Pipechat =3D IRC?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>@-'-,-----</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D3D2>Are we all invited?</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_003A_01C302D1.A0ECF4D0--    
(back) Subject: Re: aeolian-skinner + chicaleee From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 22:23:03 -0400   The Consummation will be held on PIPORG-L on a special video hookup from Albany. The Styles unit will be covering from England on the Auntie List. "Variations on Alice's Restaurant based on a theme of Arlo Guthrie" will be played on the infamous 5/12 Cooperstown Chase.   Yes, All are Invited.   Have I ever lied to you?   signed, Mark Andersen   > Nelson Denton wrote: > > Will the service be held live on Pipechat IRC? > @-'-,----- > > Are we all invited?