PipeChat Digest #3626 - Friday, April 25, 2003
 
Re: Felix Hell in Springfield, MA - 3-6-03
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: off topic - related to recent marriage thread
  by "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Re: Felix Hell in Springfield, MA - 3-6-03
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes.
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes.
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes.
  by "Steven Durham" <sdurham11@attbi.com>
Re: Felix Hell in Springfield, MA - 3-6-03
  by "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu>
Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes.
  by "Andrew Barss" <andrew.barss@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes.
  by "Steven Durham" <sdurham11@attbi.com>
Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes.
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes.
  by "Dick Meckstroth" <support@opensystemsorgans.com>
Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes.
  by <HOLYMUSIC@aol.com>
Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes.
  by <HOLYMUSIC@aol.com>
RE: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes.
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
1974 Vintage Moeller Console To Pipe Chest Wiring Question.
  by "Mattcinnj" <mattcinnj@yahoo.com>
Re: communing organists and offertory voluntaries
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca>
Re: 1974 Vintage Moeller Console To Pipe Chest Wiring Question.
  by "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell in Springfield, MA - 3-6-03 From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:16:23 -0400   On 4/24/03 7:54 PM, "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> wrote:   > Felix's recital was very enthusiastically received, and > the line to talk with him after was very long - I think he signed many = CDs > that night, and was chatting with people for a very long time.   That is so extremely gracious! What IS it in this man's personality that = he at least conveys the IMPRESSION that he's ENJOYING those conversations, surely not all of which can be that fascinating? I'm almost asking, "Is = he for REAL?"   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: off topic - related to recent marriage thread From: "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:41:34 -0400   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ----__JNP_000_2520.7b3c.35a5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 07:42:59 -0500 Margo Dillard <dillardm@airmail.net> writes: After the recent conversations regarding the pros and cons of marriage - I thought the group might enjoy this clip from today's Bonehead of the Day newsletter (especially you, Glenda)   I read this classified ad quite a long time ago in a newspaper called the Photo Shopper in Panama City Florida. I don't remember the date. It was many years ago. It said, "Wedding bands for sale, many diamonds. $500 or will trade for hand gun."   I think someone really wanted out of their marriage one way or the other. Hee Hee.   Would you believe I can throw this thread right back on topic?   I live in Central Pennsylvania, where we have more deer hunters than e-mail addresses. The first day of deer season is always the Monday following Thanksgiving. All of the school districts shut down for a holiday because most of the male students, and many of the female, are going to wear orange and not show up that day anyway.   Back in the early 80s, Weber's Music Store in Danville had newspaper ads, and a huge sign in the front window, touting their post-Thanksgiving sale. "FREE RIFLE OR SHOTGUN WITH EVERY PIANO OR ORGAN PURCHASED!"   I suppose those of us in the pipe organ trade, considering the price differential, should have sales offering much heavier artillery?     Jim     Post Script (with no intention of starting a very weary thread): Many of these stores, especially those in malls, have a sign with the inscription "Pianos and Organs." Because of this, my cohorts and I tend to refer to any instrument purchased from one of these vendors as a "pianosnorgan." pronounced: pee.a'.na.snore.gun     I am aware that droll postings such as this one, previously called "groaners" by my children, could result in my loss of posting privileges. That's OK, my children ignore me now, as well.             What marriage is to morality, a properly conducted licensed liquor traffic is to sobriety. - Mark Twain's Notebook, 1895 ----__JNP_000_2520.7b3c.35a5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE></TITLE> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type = content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3DISO-8859-1> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>On Wed, 23 Apr 2003 07:42:59 -0500 Margo Dillard &lt;<A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:dillardm@airmail.net">dillardm@airmail.net</A>&gt; = writes:</=3D DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-LEFT: 10px; MARGIN-LEFT: 10px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px = =3D solid"> <DIV>After the recent conversations regarding the pros and cons of =3D marriage -=3D20 I thought the group might enjoy this clip from today's Bonehead of the = =3D Day=3D20 newsletter (especially you, Glenda)<BR><HTTP:=3D20 0,00.html?search=3D3D"filter#"><HTTP: 0660720197921.xml=3D3D""><HTTP: = =3D dc6de9a9cb1=3D3D""=3D20 story.asp?id=3D3D"F7FEBE00-C9B4-41BF-A293-0" national = www.canada.com><BR>I =3D read=3D20 this classified ad quite a long time ago in a newspaper called<BR>the = =3D Photo=3D20 Shopper in Panama City Florida. I don't remember the date.<BR>It was = many=3D =3D20 years ago. It said, "Wedding bands for sale, many<BR>diamonds.&nbsp; = $500=3D or=3D20 will trade for hand gun."<BR><BR>I think someone really wanted out of = =3D their=3D20 marriage one way or the<BR>other. Hee Hee.<HTTP:><HREF=3D20 =3D3D" http://www.paypal.com "></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV><BR>Would you believe I can throw this thread right back on = topic?</=3D DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I live in Central Pennsylvania, where we have more deer hunters than = e=3D -mail=3D20 addresses. The first day of deer season is always the Monday = following=3D20 Thanksgiving. All of the school districts shut down for a holiday because =3D most=3D20 of the male students, and many of the female, are going to wear orange and = =3D not=3D20 show up that day anyway.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Back in the early 80s, Weber's Music Store in Danville had newspaper = =3D ads,=3D20 and a huge sign in the front window, touting their post-Thanksgiving = sale.&=3D nbsp;=3D20 "FREE RIFLE OR SHOTGUN WITH EVERY PIANO OR ORGAN PURCHASED!"</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I suppose those of us in the pipe organ trade, considering the = price=3D20 differential, should have sales offering much heavier artillery?</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Jim</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Post Script (with no intention of starting a very weary = thread):&nbsp;=3D =3D20 </DIV> <DIV>Many of these stores, especially those in malls, have a = sign&nbsp;with=3D the=3D20 inscription&nbsp;"Pianos and Organs."&nbsp; Because of this, my cohorts = and=3D I=3D20 tend to refer to any instrument purchased from one of these = vendors&nbsp;as=3D a=3D20 "pianosnorgan."&nbsp; pronounced: &nbsp;pee.a'.na.snore.gun</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I am aware that droll postings such as this one, previously = called=3D20 "groaners" by my children, could result in my loss of posting = privileges.&=3D nbsp;=3D20 That's OK, my children ignore me now, as well.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><BR><BR><BR>What marriage is to morality, a properly conducted =3D licensed=3D20 liquor traffic is to sobriety.<BR>- Mark Twain's Notebook,=3D20 1895<BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ----__JNP_000_2520.7b3c.35a5--    
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell in Springfield, MA - 3-6-03 From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:51:40 -0400   Alan,   You'll find out at the Great Wedding of the Century!!   Malcolm   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Felix Hell in Springfield, MA - 3-6-03     > On 4/24/03 7:54 PM, "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > Felix's recital was very enthusiastically received, and > > the line to talk with him after was very long - I think he signed many CDs > > that night, and was chatting with people for a very long time. > > That is so extremely gracious! What IS it in this man's personality = that he > at least conveys the IMPRESSION that he's ENJOYING those conversations, > surely not all of which can be that fascinating? I'm almost asking, "Is he > for REAL?" > > Alan      
(back) Subject: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes. From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:22:58 -0400   I take care of about 20 pipe organs in the city of Toronto. Does anyone = have information they can share about disinfecting organ pipes after the SARs epidemic in Toronto ends? AjM Thankfully, living outside Toronto in Port Hope, Ontario.        
(back) Subject: Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes. From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:27:28 -0400   At 11:22 AM 4/25/2003 -0400, you wrote: >I take care of about 20 pipe organs in the city of Toronto. Does anyone = have >information they can share about disinfecting organ pipes after the SARs >epidemic in Toronto ends? >AjM >Thankfully, living outside Toronto in Port Hope, Ontario.   Andrew,   Wash them in Lake Ontario.   Arie V.      
(back) Subject: Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes. From: "Steven Durham" <sdurham11@attbi.com> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:46:51 -0700   Washing pipes for fear of SARS? Is this a joke? If it isn't it should = be. What on earth would make anyone think that a virus would attach itself to organ pipes? Ridiculous!   Steven Durham Portland, OR   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 8:27 AM Subject: Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes.     > At 11:22 AM 4/25/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >I take care of about 20 pipe organs in the city of Toronto. Does anyone have > >information they can share about disinfecting organ pipes after the = SARs > >epidemic in Toronto ends? > >AjM > >Thankfully, living outside Toronto in Port Hope, Ontario. > > Andrew, > > Wash them in Lake Ontario. > > Arie V. > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell in Springfield, MA - 3-6-03 From: "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:52:12 -0700       Alan Freed wrote:   > > Felix's recital was very enthusiastically received, and > > the line to talk with him after was very long - I think he signed many = CDs > > that night, and was chatting with people for a very long time. > > That is so extremely gracious! What IS it in this man's personality = that he > at least conveys the IMPRESSION that he's ENJOYING those conversations, > surely not all of which can be that fascinating? I'm almost asking, "Is = he > for REAL?" > > Alan   Yes, I for one, really think so. He played a recital here at Pacific = Union College two years ago and stayed in our home for three days. My wife and I both had very positive impressions. Just a very nice guy, interested in many things. He skateboards, rock climbs, has a girlfriend, typical teenage guy stuff.   Del W. Case Pacific Union College >  
(back) Subject: Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes. From: "Andrew Barss" <andrew.barss@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:54:47 -0300   Arie,   Respectfully, it seems you must have misread Andrew Mead's original posting. He clearly says he wishes to "disinfect" the pipes -- not "disintegrate" them. :-)   Andrew Barss Halifax, Nova Scotia   On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 12:27 PM, Arie Vandenberg wrote:   > At 11:22 AM 4/25/2003 -0400, you wrote: >> I take care of about 20 pipe organs in the city of Toronto. Does >> anyone have >> information they can share about disinfecting organ pipes after the >> SARs >> epidemic in Toronto ends? >> AjM >> Thankfully, living outside Toronto in Port Hope, Ontario. > > Andrew, > > Wash them in Lake Ontario. > > Arie V. > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes. From: "Steven Durham" <sdurham11@attbi.com> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 09:16:07 -0700   Andrew:   Why would anyone need to disinfect organ pipes? Viruses don't live = outside the body for more than several hours. Inanimate objects can't breed a virus. This is the same kind of ludicrous nonsense that we saw during the early days of HIV and AIDS. I always say that common sense is far too uncommon.   Steven Durham Portland, OR   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Barss" <andrew.barss@ns.sympatico.ca> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 8:54 AM Subject: Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes.     > Arie, > > Respectfully, it seems you must have misread Andrew Mead's original > posting. He clearly says he wishes to "disinfect" the pipes -- not > "disintegrate" them. :-) > > Andrew Barss > Halifax, Nova Scotia > > On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 12:27 PM, Arie Vandenberg wrote: > > > At 11:22 AM 4/25/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >> I take care of about 20 pipe organs in the city of Toronto. Does > >> anyone have > >> information they can share about disinfecting organ pipes after the > >> SARs > >> epidemic in Toronto ends? > >> AjM > >> Thankfully, living outside Toronto in Port Hope, Ontario. > > > > Andrew, > > > > Wash them in Lake Ontario. > > > > Arie V. > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes. From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:00:32 -0400   At 12:54 PM 4/25/2003 -0300, you wrote: >Arie, > >Respectfully, it seems you must have misread Andrew Mead's original >posting. He clearly says he wishes to "disinfect" the pipes -- not >"disintegrate" them. :-) > >Andrew Barss >Halifax, Nova Scotia > >On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 12:27 PM, Arie Vandenberg wrote: > >>At 11:22 AM 4/25/2003 -0400, you wrote: >>>I take care of about 20 pipe organs in the city of Toronto. Does anyone = have >>>information they can share about disinfecting organ pipes after the = SARs >>>epidemic in Toronto ends? >>>AjM >>>Thankfully, living outside Toronto in Port Hope, Ontario. >> >>Andrew, >> >>Wash them in Lake Ontario. >> >>Arie V.   Andrew B,   If Mr. Mead is that paranoid about SARS on pipes, let him "disinfect" them =   in L. Ontario. If they "disintegrate", then I can come in and sell a = "SARS FREE" electronic organ. <LOL>   Arie V.   P.S. I need some business now! 20 organs to replace is a good start.      
(back) Subject: Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes. From: "Dick Meckstroth" <support@opensystemsorgans.com> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:05:30 -0400   >I take care of about 20 pipe organs in the city of Toronto. Does anyone = have >information they can share about disinfecting organ pipes after the SARs >epidemic in Toronto ends?   A couple hours of Messiaen ought to do it.  
(back) Subject: Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes. From: <HOLYMUSIC@aol.com> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:06:34 EDT     --part1_55.3e5a98ce.2bdad32a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/25/2003 2:02:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ArieV@classicorgan.com writes:   > Does anyone have > >>>information they can share about disinfecting organ pipes after the = SARs > >>>epidemic in Toronto ends? > >>>AjM >   WHO SAYS IT IS GOING TO END?   --part1_55.3e5a98ce.2bdad32a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated 4/25/2003 2:02:00 PM Eastern = Daylig=3D ht Time, ArieV@classicorgan.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Does anyone have<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;information they can share about disinfecting organ pipes = after=3D20=3D the SARs<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;epidemic in Toronto ends?<BR> &gt;&gt;&gt;AjM<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> WHO SAYS IT IS GOING TO END?</FONT></HTML>   --part1_55.3e5a98ce.2bdad32a_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes. From: <HOLYMUSIC@aol.com> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:08:20 EDT     --part1_146.ffad5f4.2bdad394_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/25/2003 2:06:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, support@opensystemsorgans.com writes:   > A couple hours of Messiaen ought to do it. > >   BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!-----I'll bet you are fun on a Friday night also!!!!   --part1_146.ffad5f4.2bdad394_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated 4/25/2003 2:06:36 PM Eastern = Daylig=3D ht Time, support@opensystemsorgans.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">A couple hours of Messiaen = ough=3D t to do it.<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!-----I'll bet you are fun on a Friday night = also!!!!</FONT><=3D /HTML>   --part1_146.ffad5f4.2bdad394_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes. From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:28:11 -0400   Arie wrote:   If Mr. Mead is that paranoid about SARS on pipes, let him "disinfect" them in L. Ontario. If they "disintegrate", then I can come in and sell a = "SARS FREE" electronic organ. <LOL>   Arie V.     Arie: I understand your business is located in Markham, Ontario, but as I recall, I think you'd be in Toronto if you took a 5 minute walk south. Are you sure your products are in fact SARs -free? Can you verify this for your clientele? Nervous in Port Hope. AjM            
(back) Subject: 1974 Vintage Moeller Console To Pipe Chest Wiring Question. From: "Mattcinnj" <mattcinnj@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:41:04 -0700 (PDT)   --0-528798639-1051296064=3D:68023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii   Hi All, Hoping someone can explain how it is possible to move a console, = when all the wiring SEEMS to be directly connected, one wire per pipe to = the keyboards. I know that all organs are erected and tested in the = builder's shop, then shipped and installed. There is no way that those = hundreds and hundreds of connections were (are) made during installation = time, but a quick look at the cables in the console doesn't show how one = can simply do some unplugging at either the console or windchest locations = when it is necessary to move either. The organ in question is only a 3.5 = rank unit organ. We've all heard how pipe organs become unplayable when = the "cable" is simply cut ... so how does one go about moving an organ = such as this to a new location ????? Thanks in Advance, Matt     --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. --0-528798639-1051296064=3D:68023 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii   <DIV>Hi All,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Hoping someone can explain how it is possible to move a console, when = all the wiring SEEMS to be directly connected, one wire per pipe to the = keyboards. I know that all organs are erected and tested in the builder's = shop, then shipped and installed. There is no way that those hundreds and = hundreds of connections were (are) made during installation time, but a = quick look at the cables in the console doesn't show how one can simply do = some unplugging at either the console or windchest locations when it is = necessary to move either. The organ in question is only a 3.5 rank unit = organ.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>We've all heard how pipe organs become unplayable when the "cable" is = simply cut ... so how does one go about moving an organ such as this to a = new location ?????</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Thanks in Advance,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Matt</DIV><p><br><hr size=3D1>Do you Yahoo!?<br> <a = href=3D"http://us.rd.yahoo.com/search/mailsig/*http://search.yahoo.com">The= New Yahoo! Search</a> - Faster. Easier. Bingo. --0-528798639-1051296064=3D:68023--  
(back) Subject: Re: communing organists and offertory voluntaries From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 13:46:42 -0500   At St. Andrew's, the choir and organ are in the chancel. The choir commune immediately after the sanctuary crowd (priest(s), layreaders, servers). The choir once "done" rise as a group; I leave the organ and join my wife at the rail, last of the chancel folk and first of the congregation. The rest of the congregation follow, regulated by servers in the centre aisle. At some point, the Sunday School children and teachers arrive from the parish hall and commune as a group. It all works very smoothly actually.   We sing a congregational offertory hymn, typically one beloved by the congregation. Its length is what it is. I assess the progress of the ushers taking up the money and if it is looking like the hymn is too short, I insert improvisations between verses to adjust the length so that I end just before the priest raises the plates up before the altar, signalling the start of the Doxology.   The improvs have been a mixed blessing. Some of the ushers, when finished collecting the money, wait at the back until the hymn is over, forcing an improv at the end of the hymn to bridge into the doxology. Other ushers rush to the front immediately, ensuring that I do not have to play an improv. Perhaps a message!   TTFN, Russ   On Monday, April 21, 2003, at 08:34 PM, Randolph Runyon wrote:   > To make this more relevant to our chat list, do you organists generally > commune? If so, when? Before or after? > > To continue in a relevant vein, I have a totally different question, > though > likewise of a survey nature. How is the offering voluntary regarded > in your > church? As (a) an opportunity to present some meaningful and beautiful > music, whether by the organist, a soloist, or the choir, or as (b) > filler to > cover the time it takes the ushers to take up the money, and > consequently > should be no longer than strictly necessary for that most important > task?    
(back) Subject: Re: 1974 Vintage Moeller Console To Pipe Chest Wiring Question. From: "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:51:20 -0700   Unless you carefully disconnect and label the connections at both ends, it is very difficult. Unless one has lots of technical know how, I wouldn't attempt it.   It would be a good time to add MIDI maybe.   The best solution, is to call a pipe organ company with technicians that are familiar with doing this kind of work. Get quotes from more than 1 company.   Vern   Mattcinnj wrote: > > Hi All, > > Hoping someone can explain how it is possible to move a console, when > all the wiring SEEMS to be directly connected, one wire per pipe to > the keyboards. I know that all organs are erected and tested in the > builder's shop, then shipped and installed. There is no way that those > hundreds and hundreds of connections were (are) made during > installation time, but a quick look at the cables in the console > doesn't show how one can simply do some unplugging at either the > console or windchest locations when it is necessary to move either. > The organ in question is only a 3.5 rank unit organ. > > We've all heard how pipe organs become unplayable when the "cable" is > simply cut ... so how does one go about moving an organ such as this > to a new location ????? > > Thanks in Advance, > > Matt > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.