PipeChat Digest #3629 - Saturday, April 26, 2003
 
Apology; SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes.
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Re: Andrew Henderson - St. Ignatius, NY 4-11-03
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Andrew Henderson - St. Ignatius, NY 4-11-03
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: communing organists and offertory voluntaries
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca>
Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes.
  by "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Re: communing organists and offertory voluntaries
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Thin Bach and Incomplete Bach
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
New member intro - theatre organ questions
  by "Sandra Capri" <scapri@spro.net>
New member questions
  by "Ryan C. Lander" <landerr@infoblvd.net>
Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes.
  by "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
 

(back) Subject: Apology; SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes. From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 10:27:27 -0400   I wish to apologize for my earlier post requesting methods for = disinfecting pipes. It was insincere, although I think it was redeemed by some of the responses. You must forgive me as I and others living in or around Toronto are = getting jittery with the outrageous news reports we're seeing from places outside Canada. Sars is completely contained here and everything is normal with = the exception of Hospitals where people are asked to wear masks. Toronto's 2nd largest industry, tourism, is taking a beating and I think THAT and the expected "ripple effect" is what most here are worried about, NOT SARs. AjM          
(back) Subject: Re: Andrew Henderson - St. Ignatius, NY 4-11-03 From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 10:45:44 EDT     --part1_142.1016ba19.2bdbf598_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/26/03 1:19:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ameagher@stny.rr.com writes:     > I also sung aparebit repetinae dies in college. It's a great piece but = it > incredibly difficult and one of the most difficult choral pieces I have = ever > sung. I also sang Hindemith's six chansons. These are challenging but = not > as hard as aparebit. It's too bad that more people don't take up the > challenge of Hindemith's choral music. I once tried to find a recording = of > aparebit and couldn't. I guess no one wants to take on the challenge.   Bring some copies to the OHS convention and maybe after a few rounds at = Happy Hour we can find a stairwell and give it a go. I think it would be great fun! Maybe we could slip it in at the end of one of the recitals and get = it on tape! ;-)   Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502     --part1_142.1016ba19.2bdbf598_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>In a message dated = 4/26/0=3D 3 1:19:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ameagher@stny.rr.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I also sung aparebit = repeti=3D nae dies in college. &nbsp;It's a great piece but it <BR>incredibly difficult and one of the most difficult choral pieces I = have=3D20=3D ever <BR>sung. &nbsp;I also sang Hindemith's six chansons. These are = challenging=3D20=3D but not <BR>as hard as aparebit. &nbsp;It's too bad that more people don't take up = t=3D he <BR>challenge of Hindemith's choral music. &nbsp;I once tried to find a = reco=3D rding of <BR>aparebit and couldn't. &nbsp;I guess no one wants to take on the = challen=3D ge.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ari=3D al" LANG=3D3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR>Bring some copies to the OHS convention and maybe after a few rounds = at=3D20=3D Happy Hour we can find a stairwell and give it a go. &nbsp;I think it = would=3D20=3D be great fun! &nbsp;&nbsp;Maybe we could slip it in at the end of one of = the=3D recitals and get it on tape! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Ac=3D res http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_142.1016ba19.2bdbf598_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Andrew Henderson - St. Ignatius, NY 4-11-03 From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 10:56:58 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_015C_01C30BE2.8EC02F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Presumably with Beagles bugling the brass parts. That WAS bugling, not =3D bungling, so start practice in the kennel now!.   Cheers,   Malcolm ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Cremona502@cs.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Andrew Henderson - St. Ignatius, NY 4-11-03     In a message dated 4/26/03 1:19:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, =3D ameagher@stny.rr.com writes:=3D20       I also sung aparebit repetinae dies in college. It's a great piece = =3D but it=3D20 incredibly difficult and one of the most difficult choral pieces I =3D have ever=3D20 sung. I also sang Hindemith's six chansons. These are challenging =3D but not=3D20 as hard as aparebit. It's too bad that more people don't take up =3D the=3D20 challenge of Hindemith's choral music. I once tried to find a =3D recording of=3D20 aparebit and couldn't. I guess no one wants to take on the =3D challenge.     Bring some copies to the OHS convention and maybe after a few rounds =3D at Happy Hour we can find a stairwell and give it a go. I think it =3D would be great fun! Maybe we could slip it in at the end of one of the = =3D recitals and get it on tape! ;-)=3D20   Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres = =3D http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 =3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_015C_01C30BE2.8EC02F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Presumably with Beagles bugling the = =3D brass parts.=3D20 That WAS bugling, not bungling, so start practice in the kennel=3D20 now!.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Malcolm</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DCremona502@cs.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Cremona502@cs.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 26, 2003 = =3D 10:45=3D20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Andrew Henderson - = =3D St.=3D20 Ignatius, NY 4-11-03</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3D2>In a =3D message dated=3D20 4/26/03 1:19:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, <A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:ameagher@stny.rr.com">ameagher@stny.rr.com</A> = writes:=3D20 <BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px = =3D solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=3D20 TYPE=3D3D"CITE">I also sung aparebit repetinae dies in college. =3D &nbsp;It's a=3D20 great piece but it <BR>incredibly difficult and one of the most =3D difficult=3D20 choral pieces I have ever <BR>sung. &nbsp;I also sang Hindemith's =3D six=3D20 chansons. These are challenging but not <BR>as hard as aparebit. =3D &nbsp;It's=3D20 too bad that more people don't take up the <BR>challenge of =3D Hindemith's=3D20 choral music. &nbsp;I once tried to find a recording of <BR>aparebit = =3D and=3D20 couldn't. &nbsp;I guess no one wants to take on the =3D challenge.</FONT><FONT=3D20 lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D3=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D3D0 =3D face=3D3DArial=3D20 color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>Bring some = copies to =3D the OHS=3D20 convention and maybe after a few rounds at Happy Hour we can find a =3D stairwell=3D20 and give it a go. &nbsp;I think it would be great fun! =3D &nbsp;&nbsp;Maybe we=3D20 could slip it in at the end of one of the recitals and get it on tape! = =3D   &nbsp;;-) <BR><BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the =3D Muttastery=3D20 at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502=3D20 &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 <BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_015C_01C30BE2.8EC02F60--      
(back) Subject: Re: communing organists and offertory voluntaries From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 14:41:18 -0500     On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 06:54 PM, Alan Freed wrote:   >> The choir once "done" rise as a group; > > After the chancelfolk, but before the congregation, right?   Right.   >> I leave the organ and join my wife at the rail, last of the >> chancel folk and first of the congregation. The rest of the >> congregation follow, regulated by servers in the centre aisle. > > OK; but any reason you and wife don't join the choir (in communing)?   1. the choir fill the rail almost every service 2. Sandra doesn't like to enter the chancel before the congregation is allowed up by the servers 3. I play the entire time the choir is communing, stopping only for the brief time when Sandra and I commune - at that point first in line, no waiting.   So we commune at the "bridge" moment which seems to work out quite comfortably.   > >> At some point, the Sunday School children and >> teachers arrive from the parish hall and commune as a group. It all >> works very smoothly actually. > > Oh, boy! Here we come to a serious parting of the ways. They are a > "separate congregation"? They're part of THIS congregation, but > participate > in its eucharist only by marching in, munching, sipping, and marching > out? > There's something VERY liturgically BAD [RARE word] about what I think > you > describing. Surely NO ("enn-oh") liturgical theologian (Roman, > Anglican, > Lutheran, whatever) would put up with what I think you are describing. > (I > try to use all-caps sparingly.)   Oh I do hear what you're saying! Not my call of course. Our Sunday School start the service with us, have a gathering at the chancel stairs with a mini-sermon followed by a procession complete with crucifer and children's hymn over to the parish hall for their lessons. Back they come to commune as previously described; then back they go to finish up whatever they're doing over in the hall. A routine instituted by our priest who is actually a pretty fair liturgical theologian. When I say it works very smoothly, I am of course looking at it in the role of stage manager... the actors fulfill their parts, remember their lines and don't often bump into the scenery... and not making a comment on whether it is meaningful liturgy.   >> >> We sing a congregational offertory hymn, typically one beloved by the >> congregation. > > Wait a sec. You don't mean [offertory] AFTER communion do you? Maybe > I've > got the whole thing backward here. On the other hand, if you DO mean > that, > it is NOT my place to criticize or take exception. Feel free to kick > my > butt OUT of this conversation. (Seriously.)   Oh no! Our offertory occurs well before communion, immediately following the Gospel reading and Creed. I understood the original offertory question to be a separate inquiry.   TTFN Russ    
(back) Subject: Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes. From: "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 15:43:06 -0400   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ----__JNP_000_5bf1.42ed.0061 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       But we are all that way: when we know a thing we have only scorn for other people who don't happen to know it. ------------Mark Twain- "Personal Recollections of Joan of Arc"           Many who responded to this post were unaware that the original post was "tongue-in-cheek."   Some of the responses amazed me!   Far to often, we are impatient with another's lack of knowledge in a subject area.   Before getting your dander up, remember that only fools refuse to ask questions.     Jim ----__JNP_000_5bf1.42ed.0061 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3Dcontent-type = content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3Diso-8859-1> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bottomMargin=3D3D0 leftMargin=3D3D3 topMargin=3D3D0 = rightMargin=3D3D3> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>But we are all that way: when we know a thing we have only scorn for = =3D other=3D20 people who don't happen to know it.<BR>------------Mark Twain- = "Personal=3D20 Recollections of Joan of Arc" </DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Many who responded to this post were unaware that the original post = =3D was=3D20 "tongue-in-cheek."</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Some of the responses amazed me!</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Far to often, we are impatient with another's lack of knowledge in = a=3D20 subject area.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Before getting your dander up, remember that only fools refuse to = ask=3D =3D20 questions.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Jim<BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ----__JNP_000_5bf1.42ed.0061--    
(back) Subject: Re: communing organists and offertory voluntaries From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 18:38:30 -0400   On 4/26/03 3:41 PM, "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca> wrote: > > On Friday, April 25, 2003, at 06:54 PM, Alan Freed wrote: > >>> The choir once "done" rise as a group; >> >> After the chancelfolk, but before the congregation, right? > > Right. > >>> I leave the organ and join my wife at the rail, last of the >>> chancel folk and first of the congregation. The rest of the >>> congregation follow, regulated by servers in the centre aisle. >> >> OK; but any reason you and wife don't join the choir (in communing)? > > 1. the choir fill the rail almost every service   Good for you. Nice problem.   > 2. Sandra doesn't like to enter the chancel before the congregation is > allowed up by the servers   Understandable; your course is fine, in my crummy judgment, in view = thereof. I can especially understand her feelings if the communion rail is between the choir and the sanctuary, as common in post-Tractarian Anglican = chancels. Our rail is between nave and choir, so nobody would even begin to notice = if you were accompanied to the rail by a whole bunch of relatives, etc.   > 3. I play the entire time the choir is communing, stopping only for the > brief time when Sandra and I commune - at that point first in line, no > waiting.   Gotcha. > > So we commune at the "bridge" moment which seems to work out quite > comfortably. > >>> At some point, the Sunday School children and >>> teachers arrive from the parish hall and commune as a group. It all >>> works very smoothly actually. >> >> Oh, boy! Here we come to a serious parting of the ways. They are a >> "separate congregation"? They're part of THIS congregation, but >> participate >> in its eucharist only by marching in, munching, sipping, and marching >> out? >> There's something VERY liturgically BAD [RARE word] about what I think >> you >> describing. Surely NO ("enn-oh") liturgical theologian (Roman, >> Anglican, >> Lutheran, whatever) would put up with what I think you are describing. >> (I >> try to use all-caps sparingly.) > > Oh I do hear what you're saying! Not my call of course.   No; of course not.   > Our Sunday > School start the service with us, have a gathering at the chancel > stairs with a mini-sermon followed by a procession complete with > crucifer and children's hymn over to the parish hall for their lessons. > Back they come to commune as previously described; then back they go to > finish up whatever they're doing over in the hall. A routine instituted > by our priest who is actually a pretty fair liturgical theologian. When > I say it works very smoothly, I am of course looking at it in the role > of stage manager... the actors fulfill their parts, remember their > lines and don't often bump into the scenery... and not making a comment > on whether it is meaningful liturgy.   Doesn't sound NEARly as bad as I thought you might be saying. One = question: At what age does a kid begin to actually attend a celebration of the eucharist from beginning to end? And are you satisfied with your own = reply? (Which, of course, is STILL not your call.) >>> >>> We sing a congregational offertory hymn, typically one beloved by the >>> congregation. >> >> Wait a sec. You don't mean [offertory] AFTER communion do you? Maybe >> I've >> got the whole thing backward here. On the other hand, if you DO mean >> that, >> it is NOT my place to criticize or take exception. Feel free to kick >> my >> butt OUT of this conversation. (Seriously.) > > Oh no! Our offertory occurs well before communion, immediately > following the Gospel reading and Creed. I understood the original > offertory question to be a separate inquiry.   Ah! I'm relieved. Thank you! So after the Gospel come (probably) some preaching, and (probably, generally) the Creed. And then the gears shift into whatever "offertory" words/music/action take place. (Sounds totally standard for any catholic denomination.)   Russ, you've been very gracious about all my noncomprehension. Thank you very MUCH.   Alan      
(back) Subject: Re: Thin Bach and Incomplete Bach From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 00:27:35 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   Now this IS interesting!   I suspect that the only completed version of the unfinished Bach Fantasy in C which I heard and attempted to play, was the one by Stockmeier.   I have to say that I found this utter garbage!   This sort of motivates me a little, which is much needed at the moment, because the whole "completion" process is painfully slow and I ran out of steam originally.   The problem is one of absolute perfectionism.....trying to write like Bach is incredibly demanding, and what may sound superficially Bachian is, very often, second rate on re-examination. However, what I had achieved previously has accuracy of form and a certain mathematical precision in the wiriting......thus far!   The perfectionist approach means that one has to constantly revise, change, revise, re-write etc etc. It is a painstaking progress.   What I need is someone with a big stick basically!   I think I shall have to leap around and punch the air with my fist like that lunatic at Microsoft. That's one way of getting motivated.....and having a heart attack.   More later, if I can manage to raise a pen.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   --- Bill Raty <billious@billraty.com> wrote: > FWIW- > > The translation tool on Google reports erganzt (with > umlaut) > tranlates to "supplemented". > > Happy Friday everyone! > > -Bill > > --- lindr@cch.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Colin, I'm assuming your'e writing about Bach's > BWV 573. \> > I did a bit of Googling, and it appears that W. > Stockmeier > > has, indeed, > > completed it, if that is what the German word > "erg=E4nzt" > > means.     __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer  
(back) Subject: New member intro - theatre organ questions From: "Sandra Capri" <scapri@spro.net> Date: 26 Apr 2003 18:58:59 -0600   Hi!   My name is Sandra Capri, and I just joined the list this week. I've been a Christian since the Lord saved me when I was 15. I'm an Electrical Engineer at Hewlett-Packard in Boise, Idaho.   I have been playing the organ (very poorly) at church for several years. We are a small, non-denominational church, and I am one of the few who had any piano background. I finally starting taking organ lessons last July, and realized how much I really need to learn.   After a long search, I have finally purchased a beautiful theatre organ! It's a Conn 651 that is in excellent shape. My teacher explained registration to me, and I am loving the sound of this beautiful instrument (I know this is the pipe organ group, and this is only an electronic organ, but it sounds great to me :-). And as odd as it sounds, I even found a combination of stops that made the Kinura 16' (on the Solo) sound good for certain songs.   I have a couple of questions:   1) What technical and/or service manuals are available? - electronic or paper versions are equally welcome. I have the "Conn 3-Manual Theatre 651 Owner's Manual" and "The New Conn Rhythm Unit Owner's Manual", but those are pretty devoid of any technical info. I'd like to properly care for the organ myself.   2) It has a switch and contacts for an external speaker (and Leslie perhaps?) on the lower right hand side, and was hoping someone could give me hope that I could rig it up for use with headphones - my poor husband can only take so much :-). Though I'm an EE, my experience is almost exclusively 3.3V and < 2amp, so this is a bit out of my league.   3) There is an old sales brochure that says there are "electronic pipes" available for this organ. Anybody know what this may mean?   Thanks for any info you all could provide,   Sandra Capri      
(back) Subject: New member questions From: "Ryan C. Lander" <landerr@infoblvd.net> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 21:10:57 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00A7_01C30C38.548FADB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi- I just joined the group tonight ! My questions concern any =3D information about my two pipe organs. The first I got about a year or =3D so ago, and is a Buhl pipe organ.... I took this out of a church in =3D Utica, NY. The other Im not sure of the maker, but it was worked on by = =3D Fazakas Organ company (in the 60's Id guess) which also came from a =3D church, but this one in Summit, NJ. I can find very little info on the = =3D Buhl organ company, but what Ive found, suggests 1926-1929 vintage, when = =3D Buhl worked alone. Any other info is greatly appreciated. As far as the = =3D Fazakas organ... I can find no information at all on this company, and =3D since Im not sure of the original maker of the organ, Im at a bit of a =3D dead end here. =3D20   My plans for these two 1920's organs is to combine them into one =3D instrument- using the Buhl console, as it is in beautiful shape. I want = =3D to MIDI-fy the pipe chests so they can operate from my PC, but plan to =3D keep the console and console-to-relay wiring, etc. original and =3D hard-wired. I have a solid-state transistor relay from the fazakas =3D which will replace the ancient Buhl electro-pneumatic keying relay. All = =3D these parts are currently stored in my barn, with the exception of the =3D buhl console- it is in the house.... and the fazakas console and =3D blower are still awaiting my return to NJ to pick them up as I didnt =3D have room on my initial trip for the organ. I am a beginner, so my =3D 'terms and lingo' may be incorrect, please forgive me.   Any info is greatly appreciated- and any time I can offer help to others = =3D here, I will do my best.   Thanks   Ryan Lander   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00A7_01C30C38.548FADB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi-&nbsp; I just joined the group =3D tonight !&nbsp;=3D20 My questions concern any information about my two pipe organs.&nbsp; The = =3D first I=3D20 got about a year or so ago, and is a Buhl pipe organ.... I took this out = =3D of a=3D20 church in Utica, NY.&nbsp; The other Im not sure of the maker, but it =3D was worked=3D20 on by Fazakas Organ company (in the 60's Id guess) which also came from = =3D a=3D20 church, but this one in Summit, NJ.&nbsp; I can find very little info on = =3D the=3D20 Buhl organ company, but what Ive found, suggests 1926-1929 vintage, when = =3D Buhl=3D20 worked alone. Any other info is greatly appreciated.&nbsp; As far as the = =3D Fazakas=3D20 organ... I can find no information at all on this company, and since Im = =3D not sure=3D20 of the original maker of the organ, Im at a bit of a dead end =3D here.&nbsp;=3D20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>My plans for these two 1920's organs = is =3D to combine=3D20 them into one instrument- using the Buhl console, as it is in = beautiful=3D20 shape.&nbsp; I want to MIDI-fy the pipe chests so they can operate from = =3D my PC,=3D20 but plan to keep the console and console-to-relay wiring, etc. original = =3D and=3D20 hard-wired.&nbsp; I have a solid-state transistor relay from the fazakas = =3D which=3D20 will replace the ancient Buhl electro-pneumatic keying relay.&nbsp; All = =3D these=3D20 parts are currently stored in my barn, with the exception of the buhl=3D20 console-&nbsp; it is in the house....&nbsp; and the fazakas console and = =3D blower=3D20 are still awaiting my return to NJ to pick them up as I didnt have room = =3D on my=3D20 initial trip for the organ.&nbsp; I am a beginner, so my 'terms and =3D lingo' may=3D20 be incorrect, please forgive me.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Any info is greatly appreciated- and = =3D any time I can=3D20 offer help to others here, I will do my best.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ryan = Lander</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00A7_01C30C38.548FADB0--    
(back) Subject: Re: SARs in Toronto. Disinfecting pipes. From: "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 08:54:09 -0400     On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 17:11:41 -0500 "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> writes: > > > TubaMagna@aol.com wrote: > > >Disinfection is NOT necessary, HOWEVER: > > > >Do not have intimate relations with any pipes, especially the > reeds. > > > > > And watch out if your reeds develop flue-like symptoms. > > John Speller > > Dear John,   This is to notify you that the above reply to Seb Gluck's post has earned you the "One Liner of the Week" award !     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY   ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!