PipeChat Digest #3632 - Sunday, April 27, 2003
 
Re: Clouds of smoke
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Re: Clouds of smoke
  by "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
Self Tremming Regulator
  by "Steven Durham" <sdurham11@attbi.com>
Re: Clouds of smoke
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Self Tremming Regulator
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Clouds of smoke From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 21:52:54 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0013_01C30D07.5B86D100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi Tom, This sounds strangely like what happened to me when playing for = =3D church several years ago. All of a sudden the wind went down and only = =3D the dulciana would play. After church we all went to the blower room to = =3D see sparks shooting out of the motor that ran the orga-blo that was =3D installed in 1920. New brushes were installed in the motor and all was = =3D well. Give it a shot and see what happens? Just a thought, maybe a new = =3D motor would do the trick, not that expensive. Hope this works. Gary ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Tom R.=3D20 To: PipeChat=3D20 Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 10:02 PM Subject: Clouds of smoke     Hello fellow listmembers, =3D20 I rarely ever post but today I must because I have a story to =3D tell, and I need some info to go along with it. The organ at the church = =3D I play for on saturday evening, a late 10's/early 20's Austin, rebuilt =3D by unknown company in the 70's, has been in the process of renovation =3D for the last 6 months or so. Badly needed as well because when I =3D started playing there in december, half the notes were dead, there was a = =3D cypher in the swell that affected all swell registers, the swell pedal =3D wasn't functioning, and there were about 3 ranks that were =3D non-functional(and out of 14, that makes a difference). The church was = =3D on stage 2 of a 4 stage restoration. Stage 1 was retrofitting the =3D console with solid state technology. Stage 2 was reconnecting the =3D trumpet ranks which have been disconnected for years. Stage 3 was to be = =3D a releathering of entire organ. And stage 4 would have been a cleaning = =3D of entire instrument, readjustment, voicing, and tuning. Today, =3D however, marked what may prove to be the end of this instrument. (And it = =3D was so close to being done :-( ) According to the substitute organist, = =3D who played for 11:00am mass today and first communion, when the disaster = =3D occured, this is what happened. After communion at 11:00, the choir =3D noticed the smell of smoke on the choir loft. The organist was unable =3D to smell it because there was a fan up there bowing the smell away from = =3D him. After mass, he looked into the chamber and he did notice a funny =3D smell, but coundn't figure out where it was coming from. He returned to = =3D the church for first communion at 2:00pm, and he noticed a clanking =3D sound when he turned the organ on. Then he began to play his prelude =3D and the entire swell went dead on him. (I don't know if this happened =3D all at once, or gradually, he didn't specify.) He turned it off and =3D back on again and it seemed to be working fine. However, when he was =3D playing the gloria, the organ started to go out of tune rapidly, and it = =3D sounded like it was losing air. The swell again went dead, and the =3D great and pedal slowly went after that. He tried turning the organ off = =3D and on again, a couple of times, and then he smelled smoke and ran down = =3D to the basement where the blower was. When he got down there, the =3D ENTIRE BASEMENT was filled with heavy white smoke. It was all coming =3D from the blower room. Apparently, either there was an electrical =3D problem, or the blower itself had a problem and overheated, pouring =3D smoke out everywhere. He cut the main power to the church, in the =3D middle of first communion no less(lol), and left the power off for the =3D rest of mass, for fear of electrical fire. Amidst this sad story, of =3D how a nearly century old pipe organ may be lost forever in a cloud of =3D smoke, I have a few questions for any organ techs out there. Does =3D anyone know whether or not it sounds like this could be repaired =3D relatively cheaply? How much damage might the smoke have done to the =3D inside of the organ, chests, and pipes? Has this happened to anyone =3D before and, if so, was the organ junked because of that? Does anyone =3D know what might have caused this or what might account for the high =3D temperatures and smoke? How much do blowers cost these days, new and =3D used? This and any other info may be helpful, so please feel free to =3D jump in on this topic. A real treasure of an organ is at stake.   Thanks everyone,   Tom Rishel Organist/Choir Director Ft. Burd Presbyterian Church Brownsville, PA Associate Organist St. Mary the Nativity RC Church Uniontown, PA ------=3D_NextPart_000_0013_01C30D07.5B86D100 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi Tom,&nbsp; This sounds strangely = =3D like what=3D20 happened to me when playing for church several years ago.&nbsp; =3D All&nbsp; of a=3D20 sudden the wind went down and only the dulciana would play. After church = =3D we all=3D20 went to the blower room to see sparks shooting out of the motor that ran = =3D the=3D20 orga-blo that was installed in 1920.&nbsp; New brushes were installed in = =3D the=3D20 motor and all was well.&nbsp; Give it a shot and see what happens?&nbsp; = =3D Just a=3D20 thought, maybe a new motor would do the trick, not that expensive.&nbsp; = =3D Hope=3D20 this works. Gary</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Dtrackeraction@theatreorgans.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:trackeraction@theatreorgans.com">Tom R.</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">PipeChat</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 27, 2003 = =3D 10:02=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Clouds of smoke</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hello fellow =3D listmembers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I rarely ever = post =3D but today I=3D20 must because I have a story to tell, and I need some info to go along = =3D with=3D20 it.&nbsp; The organ at the church I play for on saturday evening, a =3D late=3D20 10's/early 20's Austin, rebuilt by unknown company in the 70's, has =3D been in=3D20 the process of renovation for the last 6 months or so.&nbsp; Badly =3D needed as=3D20 well because when I started playing there in december, half the notes = =3D were=3D20 dead, there was a cypher in the swell that affected all swell =3D registers, the=3D20 swell pedal wasn't functioning, and there were about 3 ranks that were = =3D   non-functional(and out of 14, that makes a difference).&nbsp; The =3D church was=3D20 on stage 2 of a 4 stage restoration.&nbsp;Stage 1 was retrofitting the = =3D console=3D20 with solid state technology.&nbsp; Stage 2 was reconnecting the =3D trumpet ranks=3D20 which have been disconnected for years.&nbsp; Stage&nbsp;3 was to =3D be&nbsp;a=3D20 releathering of entire organ.&nbsp; And stage 4 would have been a =3D cleaning of=3D20 entire instrument, readjustment, voicing, and tuning.&nbsp; Today, =3D however,=3D20 marked what may prove to be the end of this instrument. (And it was so = =3D close=3D20 to being done :-(&nbsp; )&nbsp; According to the substitute organist, = =3D who=3D20 played for 11:00am mass today and first communion, when the disaster =3D occured,=3D20 this is what happened.&nbsp; After communion at 11:00, the choir =3D noticed the=3D20 smell of smoke on the choir loft.&nbsp; The organist was unable to =3D smell it=3D20 because there was a fan up there bowing the smell away from him.&nbsp; =3D After=3D20 mass, he looked into the chamber and he did notice a funny smell, but = =3D coundn't=3D20 figure out where it was coming from.&nbsp; He returned to the church =3D for first=3D20 communion at 2:00pm, and he noticed a clanking sound when he turned =3D the organ=3D20 on.&nbsp; Then he began to play his prelude and the entire swell went = =3D dead on=3D20 him. (I don't know if this happened all at once, or gradually, he =3D didn't=3D20 specify.)&nbsp; He turned it off and back on again and it seemed to be = =3D working=3D20 fine.&nbsp; However, when he was playing the gloria, the organ started = =3D to go=3D20 out of tune rapidly, and it sounded like it was losing air.&nbsp; The = =3D swell=3D20 again went dead, and the great and pedal slowly went after that.&nbsp; = =3D He=3D20 tried turning the organ off and on again, a couple of times, and then = =3D he=3D20 smelled smoke and ran down to the basement where the blower was.&nbsp; = =3D When he=3D20 got down there, the ENTIRE BASEMENT was filled with heavy white =3D smoke.&nbsp;=3D20 It was all coming from the blower room.&nbsp; Apparently, either there = =3D was an=3D20 electrical problem, or the blower itself had a problem and overheated, = =3D pouring=3D20 smoke out everywhere.&nbsp; He cut the main power to the church, in =3D the middle=3D20 of first communion no less(lol), and left the power off for the rest =3D of mass,=3D20 for fear of electrical fire.&nbsp; Amidst this sad story, of how a =3D nearly=3D20 century old pipe organ may be lost forever in a cloud of smoke, I have = =3D a=3D20 few&nbsp;questions for any organ techs out there.&nbsp; Does anyone =3D know=3D20 whether or not it sounds like this could be repaired relatively =3D cheaply?&nbsp;=3D20 How much damage might the smoke have done to the inside of the organ, = =3D chests,=3D20 and pipes?&nbsp; Has this happened to anyone before and, if so, was =3D the organ=3D20 junked because of that?&nbsp; Does anyone know what might have caused = =3D this or=3D20 what might account for the high temperatures and smoke?&nbsp; How much = =3D do=3D20 blowers cost these days, new and used?&nbsp; This and any other info =3D may be=3D20 helpful, so please feel free to jump in on this topic.&nbsp; A real =3D treasure=3D20 of an organ is at stake.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks everyone,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom Rishel</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Organist/Choir = Director</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ft. Burd Presbyterian =3D Church</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Brownsville, PA</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Associate Organist</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>St. Mary the Nativity RC =3D Church</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Uniontown,=3D20 PA</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0013_01C30D07.5B86D100--      
(back) Subject: Re: Clouds of smoke From: "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 23:03:10 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_012B_01C30D11.2C2DA5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Sounds like someone may have forgotten to grease the blower -- it could = =3D possibly need new bearings or worse case scenario- a new blower -- I =3D don't think all is lost because of it -- although the organ restoration = =3D crew may want to check for smoke damage inside the chestwork itself. Tom Hoehn, Organist http://theatreorgans.com/tomhoehn Tampa Theatre, Tampa, FL Roaring Twenties Pizza and Pipes (substitute) First United Methodist Church, Clearwater, FL CFTOS/Manasota/OATOS/HiloBay/CIC-ATOS/VotS-ATOS ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Tom R.=3D20 To: PipeChat=3D20 Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 11:02 PM Subject: Clouds of smoke     Hello fellow listmembers, =3D20 I rarely ever post but today I must because I have a story to =3D tell, and I need some info to go along with it. The organ at the church = =3D I play for on saturday evening, a late 10's/early 20's Austin, rebuilt =3D by unknown company in the 70's, has been in the process of renovation =3D for the last 6 months or so. Badly needed as well because when I =3D started playing there in december, half the notes were dead, there was a = =3D cypher in the swell that affected all swell registers, the swell pedal =3D wasn't functioning, and there were about 3 ranks that were =3D non-functional(and out of 14, that makes a difference). The church was = =3D on stage 2 of a 4 stage restoration. Stage 1 was retrofitting the =3D console with solid state technology. Stage 2 was reconnecting the =3D trumpet ranks which have been disconnected for years. Stage 3 was to be = =3D a releathering of entire organ. And stage 4 would have been a cleaning = =3D of entire instrument, readjustment, voicing, and tuning. Today, =3D however, marked what may prove to be the end of this instrument. (And it = =3D was so close to being done :-( ) According to the substitute organist, = =3D who played for 11:00am mass today and first communion, when the disaster = =3D occured, this is what happened. After communion at 11:00, the choir =3D noticed the smell of smoke on the choir loft. The organist was unable =3D to smell it because there was a fan up there bowing the smell away from = =3D him. After mass, he looked into the chamber and he did notice a funny =3D smell, but coundn't figure out where it was coming from. He returned to = =3D the church for first communion at 2:00pm, and he noticed a clanking =3D sound when he turned the organ on. Then he began to play his prelude =3D and the entire swell went dead on him. (I don't know if this happened =3D all at once, or gradually, he didn't specify.) He turned it off and =3D back on again and it seemed to be working fine. However, when he was =3D playing the gloria, the organ started to go out of tune rapidly, and it = =3D sounded like it was losing air. The swell again went dead, and the =3D great and pedal slowly went after that. He tried turning the organ off = =3D and on again, a couple of times, and then he smelled smoke and ran down = =3D to the basement where the blower was. When he got down there, the =3D ENTIRE BASEMENT was filled with heavy white smoke. It was all coming =3D from the blower room. Apparently, either there was an electrical =3D problem, or the blower itself had a problem and overheated, pouring =3D smoke out everywhere. He cut the main power to the church, in the =3D middle of first communion no less(lol), and left the power off for the =3D rest of mass, for fear of electrical fire. Amidst this sad story, of =3D how a nearly century old pipe organ may be lost forever in a cloud of =3D smoke, I have a few questions for any organ techs out there. Does =3D anyone know whether or not it sounds like this could be repaired =3D relatively cheaply? How much damage might the smoke have done to the =3D inside of the organ, chests, and pipes? Has this happened to anyone =3D before and, if so, was the organ junked because of that? Does anyone =3D know what might have caused this or what might account for the high =3D temperatures and smoke? How much do blowers cost these days, new and =3D used? This and any other info may be helpful, so please feel free to =3D jump in on this topic. A real treasure of an organ is at stake.   Thanks everyone,   Tom Rishel Organist/Choir Director Ft. Burd Presbyterian Church Brownsville, PA Associate Organist St. Mary the Nativity RC Church Uniontown, PA ------=3D_NextPart_000_012B_01C30D11.2C2DA5A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4922.900" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Sounds like someone may have = forgotten =3D to grease=3D20 the blower -- it could possibly need new bearings or worse case =3D scenario- a new=3D20 blower -- I don't think all is lost because of it -- although the = organ=3D20 restoration crew may want to check for smoke damage inside the chestwork = =3D   itself.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Tom Hoehn, Organist<BR><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://theatreorgans.com/tomhoehn">http://theatreorgans.com/tomho= =3D ehn</A><BR>Tampa=3D20 Theatre, Tampa, FL<BR>Roaring Twenties Pizza and Pipes =3D (substitute)<BR>First=3D20 United Methodist Church, Clearwater,=3D20 FL<BR>CFTOS/Manasota/OATOS/HiloBay/CIC-ATOS/VotS-ATOS</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Dtrackeraction@theatreorgans.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:trackeraction@theatreorgans.com">Tom R.</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">PipeChat</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, April 27, 2003 = =3D 11:02=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Clouds of smoke</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hello fellow =3D listmembers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I rarely ever = post =3D but today I=3D20 must because I have a story to tell, and I need some info to go along = =3D with=3D20 it.&nbsp; The organ at the church I play for on saturday evening, a =3D late=3D20 10's/early 20's Austin, rebuilt by unknown company in the 70's, has =3D been in=3D20 the process of renovation for the last 6 months or so.&nbsp; Badly =3D needed as=3D20 well because when I started playing there in december, half the notes = =3D were=3D20 dead, there was a cypher in the swell that affected all swell =3D registers, the=3D20 swell pedal wasn't functioning, and there were about 3 ranks that were = =3D   non-functional(and out of 14, that makes a difference).&nbsp; The =3D church was=3D20 on stage 2 of a 4 stage restoration.&nbsp;Stage 1 was retrofitting the = =3D console=3D20 with solid state technology.&nbsp; Stage 2 was reconnecting the =3D trumpet ranks=3D20 which have been disconnected for years.&nbsp; Stage&nbsp;3 was to =3D be&nbsp;a=3D20 releathering of entire organ.&nbsp; And stage 4 would have been a =3D cleaning of=3D20 entire instrument, readjustment, voicing, and tuning.&nbsp; Today, =3D however,=3D20 marked what may prove to be the end of this instrument. (And it was so = =3D close=3D20 to being done :-(&nbsp; )&nbsp; According to the substitute organist, = =3D who=3D20 played for 11:00am mass today and first communion, when the disaster =3D occured,=3D20 this is what happened.&nbsp; After communion at 11:00, the choir =3D noticed the=3D20 smell of smoke on the choir loft.&nbsp; The organist was unable to =3D smell it=3D20 because there was a fan up there bowing the smell away from him.&nbsp; =3D After=3D20 mass, he looked into the chamber and he did notice a funny smell, but = =3D coundn't=3D20 figure out where it was coming from.&nbsp; He returned to the church =3D for first=3D20 communion at 2:00pm, and he noticed a clanking sound when he turned =3D the organ=3D20 on.&nbsp; Then he began to play his prelude and the entire swell went = =3D dead on=3D20 him. (I don't know if this happened all at once, or gradually, he =3D didn't=3D20 specify.)&nbsp; He turned it off and back on again and it seemed to be = =3D working=3D20 fine.&nbsp; However, when he was playing the gloria, the organ started = =3D to go=3D20 out of tune rapidly, and it sounded like it was losing air.&nbsp; The = =3D swell=3D20 again went dead, and the great and pedal slowly went after that.&nbsp; = =3D He=3D20 tried turning the organ off and on again, a couple of times, and then = =3D he=3D20 smelled smoke and ran down to the basement where the blower was.&nbsp; = =3D When he=3D20 got down there, the ENTIRE BASEMENT was filled with heavy white =3D smoke.&nbsp;=3D20 It was all coming from the blower room.&nbsp; Apparently, either there = =3D was an=3D20 electrical problem, or the blower itself had a problem and overheated, = =3D pouring=3D20 smoke out everywhere.&nbsp; He cut the main power to the church, in =3D the middle=3D20 of first communion no less(lol), and left the power off for the rest =3D of mass,=3D20 for fear of electrical fire.&nbsp; Amidst this sad story, of how a =3D nearly=3D20 century old pipe organ may be lost forever in a cloud of smoke, I have = =3D a=3D20 few&nbsp;questions for any organ techs out there.&nbsp; Does anyone =3D know=3D20 whether or not it sounds like this could be repaired relatively =3D cheaply?&nbsp;=3D20 How much damage might the smoke have done to the inside of the organ, = =3D chests,=3D20 and pipes?&nbsp; Has this happened to anyone before and, if so, was =3D the organ=3D20 junked because of that?&nbsp; Does anyone know what might have caused = =3D this or=3D20 what might account for the high temperatures and smoke?&nbsp; How much = =3D do=3D20 blowers cost these days, new and used?&nbsp; This and any other info =3D may be=3D20 helpful, so please feel free to jump in on this topic.&nbsp; A real =3D treasure=3D20 of an organ is at stake.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks everyone,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tom Rishel</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Organist/Choir = Director</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ft. Burd Presbyterian =3D Church</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Brownsville, PA</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Associate Organist</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>St. Mary the Nativity RC =3D Church</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Uniontown,=3D20 PA</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_012B_01C30D11.2C2DA5A0--      
(back) Subject: Self Tremming Regulator From: "Steven Durham" <sdurham11@attbi.com> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 20:24:25 -0700   List:   I need help with my 3 rank pipe organ. I previously had a 1 HP Dayton Radial Blower powering the organ because I was unable to find a used Meidinger or Ventus blower that wasn't over $1000.00. This blower has worked better than expected despite the fact that it had to be placed in another room because it was too loud. It had a static pressure of 6" and = I have the organ winded with a 20" x 30" spring regulator with a cone valve and a built-in concussion bellows. The regulated pressure is 2.5" WP and = it was very steady.   Last week I bought a used .25HP Meidinger blower (it's gorgeous!!!) that = has a static pressure of about 4.75" WP. I have a 4" line into the regulator, just as before, and a 4" line from the regulator to the 3 rank chest. = Here is the problem: the regulator is now tremming without a trem all on its own. It is very fast and slight but none the less annoying. Any ideas of what is wrong? Suggestions? I need help!   Steven Durham    
(back) Subject: Re: Clouds of smoke From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 23:30:52 EDT     --part1_f.ffbe712.2bddfa6c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi Tom:   As was suggested by others, the blower needs attention, and can be put to rights by an electric motor tech. in a day or two. We had something similar happen, and got it fixed in one day turn around. Super heated air caused the pipes to go out of tune, so I don't perceive any permanent damage without seeing the pipes. When the pipes cool they should be alright.   Ron Severin   --part1_f.ffbe712.2bddfa6c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Hi Tom:<BR> <BR> As was suggested by others, the blower needs attention, and can<BR> be put to rights by an electric motor tech. in a day or two. We had<BR> something similar happen, and got it fixed in one day turn around.<BR> Super heated air caused the pipes to go out of tune, so I don't<BR> perceive any permanent damage without seeing the pipes. When<BR> the pipes cool they should be alright.<BR> <BR> Ron Severin</FONT></HTML>   --part1_f.ffbe712.2bddfa6c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Self Tremming Regulator From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 00:02:57 EDT     --part1_129.28b33198.2bde01f1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi Steve:   If your 4" line is flexhaust the turbulance set up inside it will cause tremulation. Use PVC which is smooth walled and you won't have this problem. Flex is ribbed and can cause problems with long runs. Example: a Vox in a box was reinstalled using 45' of flex, no trem. When ever the stop was used a fast trem was set up by the ribbed flex. A cheap trem but no control. Not a good thing.   Ron Severin   --part1_129.28b33198.2bde01f1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Hi Steve:<BR> <BR> If your 4" line is flexhaust the turbulance set up inside it will <BR> cause tremulation. Use PVC which is smooth walled and you<BR> won't have this problem. Flex is ribbed and can cause problems<BR> with long runs. Example: a Vox in a box was reinstalled using<BR> 45' of flex, no trem. When ever the stop was used a fast trem<BR> was set up by the ribbed flex. A cheap trem but no control. Not a <BR> good thing.<BR> <BR> Ron Severin</FONT></HTML>   --part1_129.28b33198.2bde01f1_boundary--