PipeChat Digest #3640 - Tuesday, April 29, 2003
 
fitter fingers
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Fred Swann in Allentown PA
  by "Stephen Williams" <stepwill@enter.net>
Re: Question relocating console
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Question relocating console
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Regulator
  by "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Hello All!
  by "sec_oboe2002@excite.com" <sec_oboe2002@excite.com>
Re: Regulator
  by "danielwh" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: Regulator
  by "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Re: Regulator
  by "danielwh" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: Regulator
  by "danielwh" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Was: various aches, pains and syndromes
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Earthquake in Georgia
  by "Robert P. Bass" <rpbass@earthlink.net>
RE: Sore lower back
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Re: Old Issues
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
 

(back) Subject: fitter fingers From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 18:36:03 -0500   After all the recent discussion of carpal tunnel syndrome and other = digital difficulties, I opened my local paper just now to discover the following story (at http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2003/04/29/loc_pulfer29.html) = by Laura Pulfer, a columnist for the Cincinnati Enquirer. Mr. Irwin is a graduate of the school where I teach (Miami University) and lives in the city where I play the organ (Hamilton, Ohio), so I am happy to promote a local product (namely him). I certainly think he's on the right track in preferring preventive exercise to surgery.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu         Tuesday, April 29, 2003   Learning to respect hand jive     I was trying to keep a straight face when I sat down with Greg Irwin, = who calls himself a finger fitness expert. Pulling on alarmingly colored = spandex gloves - one aqua, one pink - he performed a digital ballet, his hands flashing as his fingers contorted in impossible ways. He likes to say he takes an "athletic approach by isolating and exercising natural hand and finger movements." He demonstrated, bending his index finger straight down at the knuckle. I can do this. Then he does the same thing with each of = his fingers, without moving the adjacent digits. He lost me.   Greg, a music teacher and entrepreneur, began exercising his hands when he was studying piano at Miami University. He doesn't understand why we don't take better care of the 27 small bones and 37 muscles in our hands. We've never needed them more, he insists. "Look at all the kids on computers. We sit them down with a keyboard and a mouse for eight hours a day with no conditioning. They are blowing their hands out."   Finger fitness abroad   Greg's wife, Lorraine, co-authored his book, Finger Fitness, and = helps market the company's products on their Web site (www.handhealth.com) . = They live in Hamilton, but say they're on a global mission to raise the = awareness of hand health. Greg has appeared on TV in Germany, Holland, Japan, Spain and, most frequently, in China. The Chinese, he says, have great respect = for the therapeutic benefits of hand exercise and Chinese health balls, two iridescent spheres, are part of his Healthy Hand Gym. But the Chinese = "never thought of two-handed stuff," he says.   This does not surprise me, I told him, with a surge of nationalism. Nobody there ever thought of a fork either. Greg has appeared in America with Johnny Carson, Penn & Teller and Jay Leno, but he's readily available to schools and senior centers. "I'll go anywhere," he says. "It's that important. The first generation of computer kids are graduating from college, the ones who started with Pac Man and Nintendo. I've had college students tell me they can't open a jar." Regular conditioning of hand muscles, he says, can prevent pain, aches and injuries.   "I don't doubt it," says Dr. John McDonough, a partner at Cincinnati Hand Surgery Consultants and an associate professor of surgery at the University of Cincinnati. "It's a great idea, especially for people with a family history of arthritis. It might forestall future problems. I just wonder whether people will actually do it."   Greg Irwin reels off a list of times and places to exercise your = hands. When you're watching TV, waiting in lines, in a traffic jam, during a = boring play. You can do it instead of cracking your knuckles or biting your = nails.   I pictured my newly fit fingers flying over a keyboard, answering my e-mails in half the time. I pictured my friend, Cathy, after surgery for carpal tunnel. I pictured my grandmother's hands, twisted with arthritis. = I pictured Greg's hands, in aqua and pink leotards, dancing a happy little jig.   And I was not laughing.   E-mail lpulfer@enquirer.com or phone 768-8393.    
(back) Subject: Fred Swann in Allentown PA From: "Stephen Williams" <stepwill@enter.net> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 19:13:16 -0400   Just in case any on the list will be in the area this weekend, Frederick Swann will be performing at St. John's Evangelical Lutheran Church in downtown Allentown, Pennsylvania on Friday, May 2 at 7:30 p.m. His program will include works of Rheinberger, Wright, Vierne, Bach, Weaver, Saint-Saens, Durufle and Willan on the IV/87 Reuter instrument, a 1993 rebuild of the 1938 E.M. Skinner. Both the esteemed player and notable = organ are well worth the effort to hear . . I know I'm certainly looking forward to it!   Tickets at the door are $10 for regular admission & $5 for seniors and students. Please feel free to email privately for more details and/or information.   Stephen Williams Director of Music and Organist at St. John's    
(back) Subject: Re: Question relocating console From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:06:57 EDT     --part1_c.fca362d.2be06da1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 4/29/2003 11:12:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DNance@svdp-edu.org writes:     > Hi All, > > I have a local pastor who is interested in moving a console away from = the > location of the organ pipes. Who vends/installs any kind of = analog/digital > or MIDI transceiver for this application? Either hardwired or RF? > > Tnaks much, > Daryel >   Contact your local organ tech/tuner/builder. They can install one of = several systems that will do the job. Be aware that if the console is located as = part of the case, you will need to provide a complete console, and will have to =   have a cabinetmaker build an insert to cover the hole left by the console area being vacated.. If the organ is built with minimal wiring internal to the console, the = cable can be extended/relocated easily. If the organ is a unit organ with all = the switching inside the console, you may find that the wiring, while still simple for an experineced tech, will take longer and require more wire (cable) to complete. Your regular seervice provider should be able to = provide any info you need, along with cost estimates.   Rick M in VA   --part1_c.fca362d.2be06da1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>In a message dated = 4/29/2=3D 003 11:12:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DNance@svdp-edu.org writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hi All, <BR> <BR>I have a local pastor who is interested in moving a console away from = th=3D e <BR>location of the organ pipes. &nbsp;Who vends/installs any kind of = analog=3D /digital <BR>or MIDI transceiver for this application? &nbsp;Either hardwired or = RF? <BR> <BR>Tnaks much, <BR>Daryel <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Contact your local organ tech/tuner/builder. They can install one of = sev=3D eral systems that will do the job. Be aware that if the console is located = a=3D s part of the case, you will need to provide a complete console, and will = ha=3D ve to have a cabinetmaker build an insert to cover the hole left by the = cons=3D ole area being vacated..=3D20 <BR>If the organ is built with minimal wiring internal to the console, the = c=3D able can be extended/relocated easily. If the organ is a unit organ with = all=3D the switching inside the console, you may find that the wiring, while = still=3D simple for an experineced tech, will take longer and require more wire = (cab=3D le) to complete. Your regular seervice provider should be able to provide = an=3D y info you need, along with cost estimates. <BR> <BR>Rick M in VA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_c.fca362d.2be06da1_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Question relocating console From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 19:36:14 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nance, Daryel" <DNance@svdp-edu.org> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:04 AM Subject: Question relocating console     > I have a local pastor who is interested in moving a console away from = the > location of the organ pipes. Who vends/installs any kind of analog/digital > or MIDI transceiver for this application? Either hardwired or RF?   The first question is whether the current (attached) console is capable of standing up as a detached console. If the wooden console shell is not capable of being detached as is, then you would need a new console.   Once you have moved the old console to a detached position, or (if this is not practicable) have bought a new console, this needs to be attached by means of wires to the organ. This can either be done the old-fashioned = way, running wires from all the terminals in the junction board at the back of the console to the junction board inside the organ. Or, it can be done by multiplexing the organ, installing a digital solid state switching system = in the console and another in the organ, in which case only a few wires need = to be run between the console and the organ. If the latter course is taken = it would also be possible to install a MIDI system, should you want one.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: Regulator From: "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:22:16 -0400       On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 17:55:33 -0400 "Ryan C. Lander" <landerr@infoblvd.net> writes: > Could it be possible for the > regulator to be too heavy to lift, and thus doesnt shut off the > input air from the blower, and is exhausting it all out the OUTPUT of the > regulator ? Im a novice as far as pipe organ lingo goes... this is just a whim > from the experiencec of my blower not speeding up until there was some > resistance or back-pressure.   Ryan:   You are just experiencing the peculiariteis of a blower running with no back pressure. You would get the same effect if that blower was running a larger organ. If you put all the stops and couplers on and laid arms on the keyboards and two by fours across the pedal keys the blower would be running "full out." TOTAL leakage as it were.   If the reservoir was too heavy to lift, you would have plenty of backpressure, and no problem. There ARE blowers that will get up to speed with an open blower pipe. Yours is not one of them.       Jim     > > Ryan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> > To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Cc: <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 5:46 PM > Subject: Re: Regulator > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:37:57 -0300 "danielwh" > <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> > > writes: > > > Just wondering why when I added a secondary resevoir why the > motor > > > kept going to its strart up mode and reg going flat after > inflating > > and > > > so on, > > > I quickly unhooked it and went back to the reg allready hooked > up that > > has > > > no problems with startup > > > > > > There still seems to be a lack of sufficient data here. Your > basic > > assumptions are correct. The picture, as painted, seems to show > no > > problem. > > > > The thought that the blower might not be capable of lifting two > > reservoirs, is a misconception. > > As long as the reservoirs are sprung and weighted to a pressure > less than > > blower static, the leakage is minimal, and no pipes are played, > you could > > lift twenty reservoirs. However, if they are sequential, you > would have > > to step the pressure down with each successive unit. If they were > all fed > > from a single plenum, there would be no theoretical limit to the > number > > of reservoirs you could lift, as long as leakage and consumption > was > > zero. If the pressure of the second reservoir is set too high, > there > > would be problems, but nothing to explain the blower failure. > > > > Describe, in detail, the route of the wind as it leaves the > blower. > > Mention every valve it passes through on the journey. Can you > estimate > > the weight of the reservoir lids, weights, and spring tensions? > The > > output pressure of the reservoir can be calculated. > > > > Are you sure the motor gets up to speed, and then kicks back to > the > > starting windings? Describe the symptoms. A faulty centrifugal > switch > > might explain this, but would have no relevance to the stated > cause of > > the slowdown. > > > > Have you checked the voltage supply to the motor? Is the motor > spinning > > in the proper direction? A backward spinning blower will make > wind, but > > very inefficiently, and no where near as much as a forward > spinning one. > > You would be surprised at how often this is the source of > trouble. > > > > I still am baffled by the sequence of events, as you describe > them. Tell > > me more. > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the voicing style? (cutups, nicking etc.) > > > the Organ is a typical Organ for 1881, It has > > > 8' Open > > > 8'stopped 12 pipes > > > 8' melodia tc > > > 8' Dulciana tc > > > 4' Octave > > > 2' Fifteenth > > > 16' Bourdon in pedal > > > Pedal is tubular pneu > > > THe rest above is Tracker(Slider & Pallet ) > > > the add ons are 8'Vox Humana > > > and soon to be 8' Stopped Flute 73 pipes > > > these are on Electric action > > > > > > the nicking on the Tracker action would be I would say average > for > > > that era, and the Blower is a Casavant blower with a century > motor, 50 > > > > > years old > > > Just wondering why when I added a secondary resevoir why the > motor > > > kept going to its strart up mode and reg going flat after > inflating > > and > > > so on, > > > I quickly unhooked it and went back to the reg allready hooked > up > > > that has no problems with startup > > > > > > > > > > I would think that a blower this size would be capable of > blowing > > > up another resevoir with no problem as it had in a previous > organ > > > > > > > > > Danielwh > > > 2000 EP biggs Fellow > > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > > > topics > > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The choir always tittered and whispered all through the service. > There > > was once a church choir that was not ill-bred, but I have > forgotten where > > it was. > > - The Adventures of Tom Sawyer > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >           The choir always tittered and whispered all through the service. There was once a church choir that was not ill-bred, but I have forgotten where it was. - The Adventures of Tom Sawyer  
(back) Subject: Hello All! From: "sec_oboe2002@excite.com" <sec_oboe2002@excite.com> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:43:44 -0400 (EDT)     Hello everyone! I'm a newbie, and thought I would introduce myself. I'm a = sophomore sacred music major at Westminster College in PA, of course with = organ as my major instrument. (I am also a music ed major, with oboe as my = instrument.) I've been playing organ for several years. I'm hoping to = serve as a Minister of Music in a church as a profession. I'm also = seriously considering going to grad school for organ performance, but = that's 4 years down the road, so I'm keeping all my options open. This = June, I'm heading to Germany with my organ professor to play on some = Schnitger organs. I'm really looking forward to that. Well, I guess that's introduction enough, for now. Hope everyone has a = good night! Shelley         _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!  
(back) Subject: Re: Regulator From: "danielwh" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:18:37 -0300   The blower of course is the wind source, from that there is a resevoir = with a curtain valve to stabalize the wind on the output side of the stabilizer resevoir I have it going to another resevoir, that resevoir supplies the main Tracker action. Lets go back to the stabalizer regulator with Curtain valve, from the output side of that I also had hooked up a 4 inch flex wind line to the other resevoir, that is when I had the problems , unhooked it and covered up the hole, and blower worked fine, went through its repulsion stuff and turned up to proper speed.    
(back) Subject: Re: Regulator From: "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:28:54 -0400     On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:18:37 -0300 "danielwh" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> writes: > The blower of course is the wind source, from that there is a > resevoir with a curtain valve to stabalize the wind > on the output side of the stabilizer resevoir I have it going to > another resevoir, that resevoir supplies the main Tracker action. > Lets go back to the stabalizer regulator with Curtain valve, > from the output side of that I also had hooked up a 4 inch flex > wind line to the other resevoir,   What is this "other" reservoir and what is it feeding?   If I read you correctly, you have THREE reservoirs.   Herein lies your problem. I don't know what this third reservoir is feeding, but you must supply it from the HIGHER pressure side of the first reservoir. OR, if the regulated pressure of this third one is low enough, you can hook it to the LOW pressure side of the reservoir supplying the "main Tracker action". I suspect you would be better off supplying this third reservoir from the high side of the first.     Jim           that is when I had the problems > , unhooked it and covered up the hole, and blower worked fine, > went > through its repulsion stuff and turned up to proper speed. > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >           The choir always tittered and whispered all through the service. There was once a church choir that was not ill-bred, but I have forgotten where it was. - The Adventures of Tom Sawyer  
(back) Subject: Re: Regulator From: "danielwh" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:39:32 -0300   thsi other resevoir , was an attempt to seperate the vox humana rank from the main resevoir by putting it on its own, and put it on its own trem, I als owas going to hook up the stopped flute on that one too. I still have the vox hooked up , but on the same reg as the main organ    
(back) Subject: Re: Regulator From: "danielwh" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:45:24 -0300   so Jim your saying If I take the wind line and put it on the other side of the stabelizer the side right after the blower before it goes through the curtain valve. I shouldnt have a problem Probly is a good idea if thats what you mean as the third one I was hooking up , also has a curtain valve box on it. sounds logical thanks Danielwh    
(back) Subject: Was: various aches, pains and syndromes From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:15:36 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0017_01C30E94.7EE0B470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I like your approach to free advice - have always wanted a classy-looking watch with a timer, so that when someone says, "I got a legal question for you", I could just ostentatiously hit the timer and ask their name and address first so that I could send the bill - my off-duty hourly rate is $400, not nearly enough.     Don't get me started on doctors vs. lawyers - there's not enough bourbon in the house. I'm just glad to meet lawyers and doctors who love the organ.     Glenda Sutton   gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Kzimmer0817@aol.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 9:31 PM Just kidding. I appreciate Noel's comments. I don't mind dishing out a little advice in exchange for some pipe organ advice. If I don't like it, I can just ignore it. It's more difficult at church when people who don't usually see me as their doctor rush into the choir room right before church and kindly say, "please don't leave until I can talk to you." It's harder to ignore them.   I've told a few people that I'm going to start carrying a glove and tube of KY around with me, and start fumbling with them when people start asking too many questions.         ------=3D_NextPart_000_0017_01C30E94.7EE0B470 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <html>   <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dus-ascii">     <meta name=3D3DGenerator content=3D3D"Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)">   <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:"Footlight MT Light"; panose-1:2 4 6 2 6 3 10 2 3 4;} @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:"Colonna MT"; panose-1:4 2 8 5 6 2 2 3 2 3;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} p.MsoEnvelopeReturn, li.MsoEnvelopeReturn, div.MsoEnvelopeReturn {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; 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my off-duty hourly rate is $400, not =3D nearly enough.</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Don&#8217;t get me started on =3D doctors vs. lawyers &#8211; there&#8217;s not enough bourbon in the house.&nbsp; =3D I&#8217;m just glad to meet lawyers and doctors who love the =3D organ.</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>   <div>   <p class=3D3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue face=3D3D"Colonna = =3D MT"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Colonna =3D MT";color:blue'>Glenda</span></font><font color=3D3Dblue face=3D3D"Colonna MT"><span style=3D3D'font-family:"Colonna = =3D MT";color:blue'> Sutton</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoAutoSig><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue face=3D3D"Colonna = =3D MT"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Colonna =3D MT";color:blue'>gksjd85@direcway.com</span></font></p>   </div>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dblue = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal style=3D3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3D2 =3D face=3D3DTahoma><span style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =3D Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =3D pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] <b><span style=3D3D'font-weight:bold'>On = =3D Behalf Of </span></b>Kzimmer0817@aol.com<br> <b><span style=3D3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font = =3D size=3D3D2 face=3D3DTahoma><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Monday, April 28, 2003</span></font><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3DTahoma><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3DTahoma><span style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>9:31 =3D PM</span></font><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3DTahoma><span style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br> </span></font><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: Arial'>&nbsp;<br> Just kidding.&nbsp; I appreciate Noel's comments.&nbsp; I don't mind =3D dishing out a little advice in exchange for some pipe organ advice.&nbsp; If I =3D don't like it, I can just ignore it.&nbsp; It's more difficult at church when = =3D people who don't usually see me as their doctor rush into the choir room right = =3D before church and kindly say, &quot;please don't leave until I can talk to you.&quot;&nbsp; It's harder to ignore them.<br> <br> I've told a few people that I'm going to start carrying a glove and tube = =3D of KY around with me, and start fumbling with them when people start asking =3D too many questions.<br> <br> </span></font></p>   </div>   </body>   </html>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0017_01C30E94.7EE0B470--    
(back) Subject: Re: Earthquake in Georgia From: "Robert P. Bass" <rpbass@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 19:26:23 -0800   Hi Daniel,   I'm certain it rattled more nerves than anything else... Here's a = couple of sites you may like (to put things in perspective)...   http://earthquake.usgs.gov/ http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/   Bob So. Calif ( 'ol Shake 'n Bake )     > Subject: Earthquake in Georgia > From: "danielwh" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 11:22:54 -0300 > > Any Damage to any Pipe Organs in the Georgia Earthquake?      
(back) Subject: RE: Sore lower back From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:48:08 -0400   Now that I've left, I KNOW there's plenty lacking in my education!!! AjM   Andrew Andrew Andrew!!! Didn't you learn anything from your former boss? = You use display pipes as rollers when moving chests, much as the Egyptians = did.   Somethings lacking in your education my dear boy!   Nelson          
(back) Subject: Re: Old Issues From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:33:43 +1200   Re: Old IssuesWhat would it cost to send them to New Zealand? I have some earlier TAOs, but haven't seen one for about 35 years and would love to acquire yours if possible. I hope this is possible - freight costs are probably horrendous and I'm a hard-up retired vicar. :-)   Ross   >of TAO, I have a set going back perhaps to 1970 (perhaps even earlier) which is beginning to weigh me down!