PipeChat Digest #3843 - Friday, August 1, 2003
 
Re: Hey, ain't that called JAZZ?
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
What Jazz Is.
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
music but not organ music%
  by "Dr. Amy Fleming" <docamy@alltel.net>
Re: music but not organ music%
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Adjusting Peterson magnets (IMPORTANT!)
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Speaking Pipe Video
  by <rkinner@fuse.net>
Re:  Sweet, Sweet Spirit
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona@cervo.net>
Re: Acoustigasms!  (wuz. A or R?)
  by "bruce cornely" <cremona@cervo.net>
Re: Adjusting Peterson magnets (IMPORTANT!)
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
our "regular/irregular" THURSDAY night live chat on IRC
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Adjusting Peterson magnets (IMPORTANT!)
  by "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Hey, ain't that called JAZZ? From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:20:18 -0400   Not at all. While "feeling the music", etc, is important in jazz, it does not define jazz or differentiate it from other types of music. "Feeling" the music is as important in Bach or Buxtehude as it is in Bebop. And as for the previous writer's advice about not doing it all, that absolutely applies to playing organ or harpsichord in a chamber group. You have to be aware of what the other instruments are covering and what they are not. If you don't tailor your continuo playing to the group, you are not doing the job. Jazz is a whole other wonderful world, but you can't define it that easily. I apologize if I am taking a lighthearted comment too seriously, but I just couldn't let that slide by.   >Subject: Hey, ain't that called JAZZ? was Ideas on contemporary music via organ >From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> >In a message dated 07/29/2003 11:12:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >cremona@cervo.net writes: > >> I've found that the first ingredient in translating contemporary piano >> music to organ is to "feel" it. Learn the music on the piano first so that you >> get a good feel of its movement and what parts are more critical. > >That's known as JAZZ! >(and then...) >> >> If you are in a place where more than one instrument is used (i.e., piano >> and organ, guitars, etc) it much easier if you don't try to "do it all" but >> rather avoid duplicating what others are playing. This gives a great deal of >> freedom to explore the other voices in the accompaniment. > >That's definitely JAZZ!!! >> >> Good luck. It really can be fun. > >Nothing but "JAZZ"! > >Hey Bruce, > >Don't they call that style of musical playing, "JAZZ?" > ><grin> > >Musically, >Stan Krider http://www.nauticom.net  
(back) Subject: What Jazz Is. From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 08:35:25 EDT   It certainly is NOT JAZZ. Jazz involves intricate harmonizations, MELODIC AND HARMONIC IMPROVISATION, CREATIVITY, and SOULFULNESS. Re-arranging a junky hymn is not jazz, and it offends me that someone = would consider it jazz. It is tackier than someone calling the Bach D minor Toccata-Phantom = of the Opera or some other idiotic movie. Playing a jazz standard involves = a few things: Playing the melody of the tune once through-tunes are typically = 12, 16, or 32 bars. After the melody or "head" is played-the chord changes = keep going, and everyone in the band improvises over the chords until they are satisfied....the tune never stops until the head is played to signal the = end of the tune. If you want to hear jazz organ, go out and buy 3 records to start-Larry Young: Unity- Jimmy Smith: The Sermon- Don Patterson: = 4 Dimensions. You may also want to check out Charlie Parker, Melvin Rhyne, Grant Green, =   Wes Montgomery, John Coltrane, McCoy Tyner, Elvin Jones, Freddy Hubbard, = Kenny Barron etc.... good luck- gfc    
(back) Subject: music but not organ music% From: "Dr. Amy Fleming" <docamy@alltel.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:33:16 -0500   Hope someone can help me. I am looking for some piano sheet music by the composer Alec Templeton. The piece is called a "A Sultry Day in New York". My mom played it in her youth and would like to play it again. I was hoping to find it for her 80th birthday but internet searches have been unproductive, it is out of print. It may be in a 2 volume set of paino music by this composer called "Piano Portraits". If anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Amy Fleming    
(back) Subject: Re: music but not organ music% From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:46:25 -0500   on 7/31/03 9:33 AM, Dr. Amy Fleming at docamy@alltel.net wrote:   > Hope someone can help me. I am looking for some piano sheet music by the > composer Alec Templeton. The piece is called a "A Sultry Day in New York". > My mom played it in her youth and would like to play it again. I was > hoping to find it for her 80th birthday but internet searches have been > unproductive, it is out of print. It may be in a 2 volume set of paino > music by this composer called "Piano Portraits". If anyone can help it > would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, > Amy Fleming > >   It's in a 1944 collection from Leo Feist called "Music for Moderns." Here are the results of a WorldCat search. Your local library should be able to get it on interlibrary loan.   Best wishes,   Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu       Music for moderns, eight solos for piano.   Alec Templeton   1944 Musical Score : Printed music : Jazz 30 p. 31 cm. New York, L. Feist,   Standard No: LCCN: 45-14998 Contents: Haydn takes to ridin'.--Mendelssohn mows 'em down.--Debussy in Dubuque.--Grieg's in the groove.--Old world charm.--Redwoods at Bohemian Grove.--A sultry day in New York.--Berceuse in blue. Class Descriptors: LC: M25 Entry: 19911009 Update: 19940908 Accession No: OCLC: 24523538 Database: WorldCat      
(back) Subject: Adjusting Peterson magnets (IMPORTANT!) From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 10:01:57 -0500   In a message dated 7/30/2003 RMaryman@aol.com wrote:   > I have used them in a couple of projects and have had relatively good success. <snip> we used about 500...and out of those, we had to replace 3 or 4 that did not work > once the chests were installed in the chambers (even tho they did work when the chests were > winded in the shop and tested under pressure.). We did have to go thru and adjust a number (about > 20 to 25) of the armature settings, but this is a simple matter to take care of and Peterson makes a > tool especially for this purpose.   This is the first time I've ever heard of this happening. I do know that Peterson's literature has armature adjustment instructions that should be followed and that the gap between the magnet pole and armature needs to be properly adjusted for proper operation during installation.   Once I got my guys used to doing that, everything goes out and works the first time. Peterson has a sheet with their recommended settings illustrated that you can obtain from them.   Faithfully,   G.A.   -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO Schneider Pipe Organs, Inc. 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (877) 944-2454 TOLL-FREE (217) 944-2527 FAX arpschneider@starband.net Home Office EMAIL arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com URL ADDRESS    
(back) Subject: Speaking Pipe Video From: <rkinner@fuse.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:53:41 -0400   Some time ago, someone posted the web address of a site with videos of the turbulents around a pipe mouth as it apeaks. Can you help me find this site?   Thanks, Bob   Where your treasures lie, there will your heart be also. Matthew 6:21    
(back) Subject: Re: Sweet, Sweet Spirit From: "bruce cornely" <cremona@cervo.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:27:35 -0400   From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 18:55:30 -0500   <I find "Sweet, Sweet Spirit" to be much easier and appropriate on organ than piano.... No, I can't imagine it on baroque principals either...>   Glad you prefer "SSS" on the organ. It takes on a special elegance when "squirting" from gently nicked Prinzipals on low pressure; add to that a flowing accompaniment on "chiffing" flutes and it's a real gem.   Scritchies and Haruffarrroooo-bow-ha-wow...   Unkie...   Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at HowlingAcres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 Help Some Animals Free: http://tinyurl.com/2j5i and http://pets.care2.com/welcome?w=308025421 GET PAID to shop: http://ct.par32.com/?id=473FAAG381F58          
(back) Subject: Re: Acoustigasms! (wuz. A or R?) From: "bruce cornely" <cremona@cervo.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:41:39 -0400   Stan Krider wrote: <Have you ever stood in the pipe chamber while someone played a "real" pipe organ? Have you ever stood in the middle of an orchestra while it was playing?>   Yes, indeedy! My first "intimate encounters" with a pipe organ were when I was around 9 or 10 years old and was in the children's choir at church. The director, knowing my infatuation with the pipe organ made the bargain with me that if I would behave in choir I could sit in the Swell chamber of the 3/17 Wicks during church. It worked like a charm, too. I was an angel in rehearsal and happily perched on the walkboard from the first note of the prelude to the last note of the postlude.   I loved the sound of the strings as they purred beneath me, and the blasts of energy from the Trompette during those magic moments of the hymns. The 4' Traversflute was another favorite; it took on a special beauty up-close and personal.   I recently had a very close encounter with a beautiful organ at the OHS convention. The organ sat a mere three feet from the side gallery rail and I had that glorious experience again. I could almost feel the octaves moving along the chest and the organ had a very special crispness to it.   So, at recitals I can be found in one of two places, the front or the back pew!   Scritchies and Haruffarrroooo-bow-ha-wow...   Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at HowlingAcres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 Help Some Animals Free: http://tinyurl.com/2j5i and http://pets.care2.com/welcome?w=308025421 GET PAID to shop: http://ct.par32.com/?id=473FAAG381F58      
(back) Subject: Re: Adjusting Peterson magnets (IMPORTANT!) From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 18:22:48 EDT   Rich -   thanks for the note. The notes we had to adjust were more of a "tweak" = than an hugh adjustment. The few that we did have to dojust needed a very small =   amount of adjustment. Some of this may have been due to the time lag = between the time we built/tested the chest (all of the magnets worked OK in the shop) = and when we actually did the installation - AND - there may have been some difference in the wind-presure of the shop test and the actual in-chuch = installation. the church blower put out a much higher static and CFM than the blower in = the shop, and most of the problems we encountered were in the bass notes. ( we =   maybe should have used a stronger magnet, but went with Peterson's = recommended coil sizing.). Still, 20 out of 500 is not so bad...We built a similar = sized organ using Reisner 601's and they took a LOT more fiddling with to get = them 100% reliable..   Rick in VA    
(back) Subject: our "regular/irregular" THURSDAY night live chat on IRC From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:46:33 -0700   It commences officially at 9 p.m. U.S. Eastern Time, but I'm already on, if anybody's around.   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: Adjusting Peterson magnets (IMPORTANT!) From: "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 01:02:13 -0400   Mostly I've only had problems when I've not adjusted the spring for the = =3D windpressure correctly. As most of us do we install the valves with the = =3D chest upside down and all seems right. . You can forget to =3D loosen/tighten the spring a bit when your installing them especially =3D when you are using very high/low pressure, remember gravity effects!. =3D You don't need a strong spring return on high pressure but you do on =3D very low pressure. On high pressure the vacuum will take care of itself = =3D causing the valve to seat ok. Remember to make sure the felt/leather =3D disk is flat when installing them, it's easy to shove a slightly curved = =3D one in by mistake and you can't see the poor fit once they are =3D installed. However that darn speck of sawdust that always creeps into = =3D the chestwork will get you sooner or later, you will never escape it. =3D It's best to leave yourself an easy access panel on the chest to get in = =3D to adjust things. And don't put the screws in corners or under legs and = =3D supports where you will never get them out!   I've almost never had a dud Peterson Magnet. installed thousands, plus =3D the thousands of our own unit electro pneumatic design. I did have to rebuild a 24 rank organ with only Reisner magnets in it =3D for the 4th time in it's first 10 years. (a real hoot of an organ =3D folks!) What a nightmare unsoldering and resoldering those easily melted plastic = =3D terminals only 3" above my face. I resembled the TIN MAN after I was =3D done each day.=3D20     Nelson Denton   Save up to 65% on your auto insurance - Don't get CAA insurance. I saved $900.00 today.=3D20           --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 25-Jul-03