PipeChat Digest #3875 - Tuesday, August 12, 2003
 
Re: Music for Glenda's wedding!
  by "Bruce Cornely" <cremona@cervo.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Music for Glenda's wedding! From: "Bruce Cornely" <cremona@cervo.net> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 00:33:08 -0400   Prelude Music Prelude and Fugue in G Major J S Bach Prelude on Rhosymedre R Vaughan Williams Anthem - Our Father by Whose Name (Rhosymedre) sung by the choir from = West Gallery Prelude and Fugue on ALAIN - M Durufle Anthem - Psalm 23 - Thomas Matthews sung by the choir from West Gallery Trio Sonata I in E-flat J S Bach   At the Procession of the Choir and Clergy, Hymn - Love Divine, All Loves Excelling (Hyfrydol) At the Procession of the Wedding Party, Anthem - Psalm 22 (I Was Glad) - Leo Sowerby The First Lesson Psalm - Sung resonsively by various choristers (solo) with congregational response The Second Lesson Canticle - O Ruler of the Universe - Richard Dirksen At the Gospel Procession, Hymn Holy, Holy, Holy (Nicaea) Homily At the Eucharist, Communion Service by Gerre Hancock At the Communion, Anthems Three Prayers - Ned Rorem Ave Verum - W A Mozart O Sacrum Convivium - Olivier Messiaen At the Procession - Voluntary in C - Henry Purcell Postlude - Carillon de Westminster - Louie Vierne   Ringing of Bells and Swilling of Beer in the Tower!   Scritchies and Haruffarrroooo-bow-ha-wow...   Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at HowlingAcres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 Help Some Animals Free: http://tinyurl.com/2j5i and http://pets.care2.com/welcome?w=3D308025421 GET PAID to shop: http://ct.par32.com/?id=3D473FAAG381F58 ----- Original Message ----- From: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:54 PM Subject: PipeChat Digest #3871 - 08/12/03     PipeChat Digest #3871 - Tuesday, August 12, 2003   Re: Sunday Within The Octave of General Convention (grin) (X-POSTED) by <DERREINETOR@aol.com> RE: Sunday Within The Octave of General Convention (grin) (X-POSTED) by "Patrick Kujawa" <pkujawa@baystar.com> Re: velocity sensitive action by <TubaMagna@aol.com> Re: MIXTURES by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com> Re: velocity sensitive action by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com> Re: Mark Thallander by "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net> Re: Madison, WI - Wed Noon Recitals by "Michael Franch" <mvfranch@hotmail.com> Re: Dogs and organ music. by "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> Re: Dogs and organ music. by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> RE: Madison, WI - Wed Noon Recitals by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Re: Dogs and organ music. by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Re: Organ and dogs by <Shiresvillebone@aol.com> Change in RTOS September Concert Date (cross-posted). by "Kenneth Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com> Re: Dogs and organ music. by <TubaMagna@aol.com> Re: Dogs and Organ Music by "Bruce Cornely" <cremona@cervo.net> Re: Dogs and organ music. by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Silent Movies... by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca> Re: Silent Movies... by <ScottFop@aol.com> Re: Silent Movies... by "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> RE: Wedding musi'Henry Glass'c by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Re: Dogs and Organ Music by "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Re: Organ and dogs by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Re: Organ and dogs by <ContraReed@aol.com> Organs by <ContraReed@aol.com> Playing things wrong-- on purpose by "Mike" <organist@clover.net> Re: Playing things wrong-- on purpose by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>    
(back) Subject: Re: Sunday Within The Octave of General Convention (grin) (X-POSTED) From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:13:57 EDT   John, I'm an Episcopalian, an organist (not working at the moment) and--I didn't go to Mass last Sunday! (I was off the coast of Maine, not near any church--though I did recite Morning Prayer in thanksgiving for Gene). However, I can assure you no one left our parish in the Diocese of Massachusetts over the Gene Robinson issue. Gene, you see, preached at the istallation of our new = Rector last year and will be coming back to preach next June. The parish seems to = really respect Gene. He's a wonderful priest and will be an exemplary bishop. Bill Harris    
(back) Subject: RE: Sunday Within The Octave of General Convention (grin) (X-POSTED) From: "Patrick Kujawa" <pkujawa@baystar.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:27:55 -0500   Attendance at our Church was a bit up, but it may have been to hear the Bishop's letter in response to the Convention. This is a conservative = area and our delegation and bishop did not support the election or the adopting of the same-sex blessing. The bishop's letter was very well written and assured people that the same-sex blessing would not be "explored" in our local church and urged people to not make hasty decisions. He announced a series of meetings to address the issue. Although the great majority of people oppose the actions taken by the Convention, I think more are = worried about schism. I didn't hear anyone comment on doing the 2 W's - walk or withhold.   Perhaps the best barometer is this: we collected 100+% of our new organ fund as of Monday morning! I don't mean pledges, but actual cash in hand. This is actually ahead of our timeline.   Patrick     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of quilisma@socal.rr.com Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 3:52 PM To: anglican-music@list.stsams.org; organchat; PipeChat Subject: Sunday Within The Octave of General Convention (grin) (X-POSTED)   I didn't go to Mass today ... nobody was home to take me.   These questions are primarily for ECUSA organists in the US, though I suppose there was a certain amount of fallout worldwide:       Was your attendance up, down, or normal today?   Was anything said about the Episcopal Church's General Convention?   Did anyone announce their intention to leave your parish?       Cheers,   Bud       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: velocity sensitive action From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:17:09 EDT   I believe the firm you are discussing is known as Syncordia.  
(back) Subject: Re: MIXTURES From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:27:07 -0400   At 06:25 AM 2003-08-12 +0100, you wrote: >Dale wrote >"Is it really a Viscount(?) Ahlborn?" > >It's a 2m Viscount Jubilate with an Ahlborn Classic >Archive. The Ahlborn is voiceable, the Viscount at >this level not. However the combination provides the >basis for playing virtually all the repertoire, though >3 manuals would be welcome. The Ahlborn has better >sounds than the Viscount - the mixtures are brighter >and clearer. It is when the V & A are used together >that the conflict arises - they are not quite in tune >with each other. Now this is alterable, but the last >occasion I tried my handing at adjusting the settings >the Ahlborn rebelled and went on to about 25% volume, >so, after help from Eorg list members (yes Arie - you >were appreciated!) and the factory to restore it to >its initial glory I have been wary of doing anything >else to it! >John Foss   John,   It is only the oddest time these units hang up, or lock up if you will, so don't worry about changing the settings. As a matter of course it is wise to write down all the numbers (for all stops, all settings), in case it happens again. There should be no problem tuning the Archive unit to the Viscount. Or, can the Viscount organ be tuned to the Archive module?   Arie V.   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Arie Vandenberg Classic Organbuilders ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com Tel.: 905-475-1263      
(back) Subject: Re: velocity sensitive action From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:36:14 -0400   At 09:17 AM 2003-08-12 -0400, you wrote: >I believe the firm you are discussing is known as Syncordia.   Hello,   Yes, it was Syncordia. A great idea, but almost impossible to keep = working properly. Also, Syncordia tried to force certain things on builders, that frustrated builders. Can you imagine, a company telling C. B. Fisk how to build a keyboard properly, so their system would fit and work properly, only to find out that in 3 months it was totally out of adjustment? It = was also hugely expensive.   The company was originally founded in Quebec, was funded by tax payers dollars, but never made any money. As soon as government funding stopped, the company essentially stopped, the assets were packed in a suitcase, and ended up in Switzerland. Whether they are still on the go, I would have = no idea.   I think, if you want that kind of action, (finger responsive key and = pallet action), just go for the true and tried tracker action, and be done with it. At least we know that tracker actioned organs work, and can work work for centuries.   Arie V.   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Arie Vandenberg Classic Organbuilders ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com Tel.: 905-475-1263      
(back) Subject: Re: Mark Thallander From: "Ed Steltzer" <steltzer@gwi.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:14:08 -0400   Mark played a concert at Ogunquit Baptist Church not long before his accident. Pastor Clark from there gave me a URL by which interested folks can keep up with Mark's progress in the hospital www.caringbridge.org/ca/markthallander   He may not have visitors at this time. Ed, in Kennebunkport Maine   ----- Original Message ----- From: <Devon3000@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: Mark Thallander     clip....... > Do you know Mark Thallander? He's an organist, was on staff at Crystal > Cathedral for maybe 15 years, before and after Fred Swann. clip....... > Anyway, he was in a car wreck in Kennebunkport on Sunday..... lost his left > arm. It was too badly mangled to save, but he's alive and in a = hospital in > Portland. clip........... > Devon Hollingsworth      
(back) Subject: Re: Madison, WI - Wed Noon Recitals From: "Michael Franch" <mvfranch@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:25:31 -0500   You are correct. Sorry for the typo.   Mike     >From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> >Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Subject: Re: Madison, WI - Wed Noon Recitals >Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:19:35 -0500 > > >I think this is Bengtson (son of Bengt) not Bengston. This would be = Bruce >A. Bengtson. Bruce P. Bengtson is organist of Christ Church, Reading, = Pa. > >John Speller   _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=FEatures/junkmail    
(back) Subject: Re: Dogs and organ music. From: "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:09:14 -0400   Heh.   At one of the Cherry Rhodes concerts at Trinity Lutheran in Lansdale, PA, during an AGO convention, one of the attendees was a partially sighted woman who = came in with her seeing eye dog. Part way through the first half, she brought him out into the "lobby" where some of the volunteers were waiting for the concert to = be over to start our next task.   Turns out that the pup - a sweet-tempered black lab - was squirming and whimpering. Cherry played a well-selected program that showed off the organ, including some of its unusual mutations.   The dog didn't like those high pitches.   Bob, I'm thinking that the oboe has more high overtones than you use in registering the organ. It's not the rumble so much as it is the squeal.   --Shirley   On 12 Aug 2003 at 11:28, bobelms wrote:   > > Both instruments are tuned to equal temperament so we can't blame > that, can we? > > Bob Elms.      
(back) Subject: Re: Dogs and organ music. From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:32:26 -0500   At the ATOS convention last November in San Diego Carol Williams had her dog with her when she played the program at the Speckles Organ Pavilion in Balboa Park. From what I remember the dog snoozed through most of it. Of course that is an outdoor venue so I'm sure the organ did not bother the dog.   Jon    
(back) Subject: RE: Madison, WI - Wed Noon Recitals From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:29:01 -0400   Michael Franch's mention of Luther Memorial Church reminds me that in = third grade, 1956/57, I studied piano with the then organist of that church, = Mrs. Russell Paxton. She was a gracious, very cultured matron who lived in an elegant modern house just up the hill from my school. In her living room was a Steinway grand. Her husband, as I remember, was a music professor = at the university and conducted the orchestra.   Although I hadn't yet become particularly interested in the organ, our family did once stop in and catch the end of service that she played at Luther Memorial, probably at my request. Her postlude was someone's = setting of "Ein feste Burg" (the first time I'd ever heard that name and probably the tune), and I thought that it was probably a nice enough piece except definitely too short-- didn't even give a fan enough time to run up to the organ before it was over :-) Wasn't the console just above the front of = the nave on the left (north, Gospel) side of a balcony that wrapped almost 3/4 of the way around the building? Mrs. Paxton was fond and proud of the instrument; at least, she said that as long as she could go and play it "with so many stops at my disposal", she would have no use for an = electronic organ even if were conveniently in her home rather than a 15-minute drive away.   How much has this organ changed since the late 1950s?    
(back) Subject: Re: Dogs and organ music. From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:37:48 -0400   On 8/12/03 1:32 PM, "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> wrote:   > At the ATOS convention last November in San Diego Carol Williams had = her > dog with her when she played the program at the Speckles Organ Pavilion = in > Balboa Park. From what I remember the dog snoozed through most of it. Of > course that is an outdoor venue so I'm sure the organ did not bother the dog.   I haven't heard that one for 47 years. But as I recall, it sure used to annoy the lions a couple blocks north (if I recall the direction = properly). Also, Carol's dog has heard that instrument a thousand times, and is used = to it.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ and dogs From: <Shiresvillebone@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:01:28 EDT   Hey,   My dog (American Eskimo) does not mind piano or organ, but the second I = pull out the trombone the dog runs far away, the cat gets all tense, and the = bird gives me the angry chirp...Guess trombone isnt the musical instrument = thats supposed to "soothe the saage beast".   JP    
(back) Subject: Change in RTOS September Concert Date (cross-posted). From: "Kenneth Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:20:05 -0400   The contractor who is installing the new seats, carpet and other improvements to Rochester's Auditorium Center will not complete their work in time for our previously scheduled September 13 concert date. This concert has been rescheduled for Saturday, September 27. Details will be posted on our website at http://theatreorgans.com/rochestr/ when they become available.   The improvements to the Auditorium Center, being made by the Rochester Broadway Theatre League, will be worth waiting for. We hope you can come = and attend the concert on September 27. The admission will be free as our way = of thanking everyone for their support of theater pipe organ restoration in Rochester since the Rochester Theater Organ Society was formed in 1964.   Ken Evans, RTOS Director    
(back) Subject: Re: Dogs and organ music. From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:38:48 EDT   What a great thread! At a recent recital by Sam-Hindsley Berlewycke at Trinity Unitarian Church, he pulled his signature prank of releasing some starving, rabid, trained attack dogs during his performance of "Herzlich tut mich verlangen." He received a standing ovation, and eight people were hospitalized. Any other fun organ/dog anecdotes?  
(back) Subject: Re: Dogs and Organ Music From: "Bruce Cornely" <cremona@cervo.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:33:01 -0400   Bob, You have definietly hit a conundrum, although the answer may lie in the subject title, "Organ MUSIC".   The Baskerbeagles, and their fore-pawed-bears have all snoozed through practice sessions at church, even sat through services on occasion, = without so much as an "arrooo," except for the time at the St. Francis Day service when all 150 dogs let fly during "All Things Bright and Beautiful." But that was the fault of the rectors Irish Setter. SHE STARTED IT!!   I have also noticed that the Baskerbeagles do not seem the least annoyed = by loud organ music played on the stereo.   However, I cannot play my recorder or blow a single organ pipe in the = house without them going berserk and breaking into cascades of howling (geez... = I love it!!!). I think it is the "solo" sound. They also break into = song when a solo instrument plays on TV (i.e., theme from "Bold and Beautiful" with solo sax). My first experience with this was years ago on a = Johnson's Wax commercial in which a well-dressed gentleman entered a ballroom and casually leaned on a pedestal table, upsetting several bottles of wine. = In the background a lone soprano sang the love song from "Madame Butterfly." Whenever this commercial came on all hell broke loose. I even recorded = it so that I could play it at parties. They've never let me down!!!   You might try, next time you practice, just playing a single pipe for a = few moments or a lone melody and see what happens. Or you could hide your doggy beneath a pew next time you have a soprano soloist!!   Scritchies and Haruffarrroooo-bow-ha-wow...   Unkie...   Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at HowlingAcres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 Help Some Animals Free: http://tinyurl.com/2j5i and http://pets.care2.com/welcome?w08025421 GET PAID to shop: http://ct.par32.com/?idG3FAAG381F58      
(back) Subject: Re: Dogs and organ music. From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:03:31 -0400   On 8/12/03 3:38 PM, "TubaMagna@aol.com" <TubaMagna@aol.com> wrote:   > He received a standing ovation, and eight people were hospitalized.   Our of the nine in attendance.   > Any other fun organ/dog anecdotes?   Seb, you are just TOO MUCH!   Alan (from Trinity Unitarian)    
(back) Subject: Silent Movies... From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:03:36 -0500   I'm interested in doing a silent movie concert at our church this year, as part of fund-raising for a new organ.   Does anyone on the list know how we would get hold of an appropriate silent movie to present? Has anyone actually done this in a church venue?   Thanks, Russ Greene St. Andrew's Anglican Church Winnipeg, Canada    
(back) Subject: Re: Silent Movies... From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 17:11:31 EDT   Hi Russ   My name is Scott Foppiano, and I am both a classical and theatre organist. I have not only presented the films as part of my own programs but have = played them myself as well as bringing in guest artists.   What specific questions might you have? I will certainly be happy to = speak with you further about this. Are you considering any specific artists for this film?   Looking forward to hearing back from you. Thanks   Scott F. Foppiano Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.    
(back) Subject: Re: Silent Movies... From: "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:43:38 -0400   Hi Russ --   My name is Tom Hoehn and I present Theatre Organ and Classical organ concerts. In October I'll be accompanying "Phantom of the Opera" at a church in Ft. Myers, FL. What type of information are you looking for?   Looking forward to hearing from you....   Tom Hoehn, Organist http://theatreorgans.com/tomhoehn Roaring Twenties Pizza and Pipes (substitute)(4/42 Wurlitzer) First United Methodist Church, Clearwater, FL (4/98 Ruffati/Wicks/Rodgers) CFTOS/Manasota/OATOS/HiloBay/CIC-ATOS/VotS-ATOS/DTOS/AGO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca> To: "Pipechat List" <pipechat@pipechat.org>; "Piporg List" <piporg-l@listserv.albany.edu> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: Silent Movies...     > I'm interested in doing a silent movie concert at our church this year, > as part of fund-raising for a new organ. > > Does anyone on the list know how we would get hold of an appropriate > silent movie to present? Has anyone actually done this in a church > venue? > > Thanks, > Russ Greene > St. Andrew's Anglican Church > Winnipeg, Canada > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >      
(back) Subject: RE: Wedding musi'Henry Glass'c From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 18:37:46 -0500   I don't want suggestions for where to find organ music; I'm not looking for a collection of organ wedding music, but thank you. I want a suggested complete program of organ music and boychoir music for an upscale wedding.   In fact, I REALLY do need suggestions for some great English/boy choir wedding music with organ, whether or not you do the rest.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     >      
(back) Subject: Re: Dogs and Organ Music From: "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 08:03:19 +0800   Well, Bruce, I did have a fox terrier once that used to sit by the piano howling whenever I played. He wagged his tail (what was left of it) during the whole performance, as evidence that he was really enjoying what he was doing. He was inclined to be coloratura. However there is no doubt that this present border collie totally disapproves of oboes . He votes with his feet!!   Oops! I fear that one of our august listers does not approve of this thread!! oh well, back to mixtures and welltemper, whatever that is.   Regards, Bob.   ---- Original Message ---- From: cremona@cervo.net To: pipechat@pipechat.org, Subject: Re: Dogs and Organ Music Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:33:01 -0400   >Bob, >You have definietly hit a conundrum, although the answer may lie in >the >subject title, "Organ MUSIC". > >The Baskerbeagles, and their fore-pawed-bears have all snoozed >through >practice sessions at church, even sat through services on occasion, >without >so much as an "arrooo," except for the time at the St. Francis Day >service >when all 150 dogs let fly during "All Things Bright and Beautiful." > But >that was the fault of the rectors Irish Setter. SHE STARTED IT!! > >I have also noticed that the Baskerbeagles do not seem the least >annoyed by >loud organ music played on the stereo. > >However, I cannot play my recorder or blow a single organ pipe in >the house >without them going berserk and breaking into cascades of howling >(geez... I >love it!!!). I think it is the "solo" sound. They also break >into song >when a solo instrument plays on TV (i.e., theme from "Bold and >Beautiful" >with solo sax). My first experience with this was years ago on a >Johnson's >Wax commercial in which a well-dressed gentleman entered a ballroom >and >casually leaned on a pedestal table, upsetting several bottles of >wine. In >the background a lone soprano sang the love song from "Madame >Butterfly." >Whenever this commercial came on all hell broke loose. I even >recorded it >so that I could play it at parties. They've never let me down!!! > >You might try, next time you practice, just playing a single pipe >for a few >moments or a lone melody and see what happens. Or you could hide >your >doggy beneath a pew next time you have a soprano soloist!! > >Scritchies and Haruffarrroooo-bow-ha-wow... > >Unkie... > >Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at >HowlingAcres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 >Help Some Animals Free: http://tinyurl.com/2j5i > and http://pets.care2.com/welcome?w=3D308025421 >GET PAID to shop: http://ct.par32.com/?id=3D473FAAG381F58 > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related >topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ and dogs From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:35:30 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: <Shiresvillebone@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:01 PM Subject: Re: Organ and dogs     > > My dog (American Eskimo) does not mind piano or organ, but the second = I pull > out the trombone the dog runs far away, the cat gets all tense, and the bird > gives me the angry chirp...Guess trombone isnt the musical instrument thats > supposed to "soothe the saage beast".   Same here. My dogs don't mind piano or organ, but when my daughter starts practising her trombone they both take off to the basement in terror.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ and dogs From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 21:41:48 EDT   In a message dated 8/12/03 8:35:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jlspeller@mindspring.com writes:   << Same here. My dogs don't mind piano or organ, .... >>   I guess I'm lucky, my present dog (a Dutch Shepherd) and her predecessor = (a German Shepherd) were not phased at all by any instruments - from piccolo = of contrabassoon. I think they both realized that if I was there practicing, = I was there for a while and they were content to just be in the same room with = me. I did have a house sitter for a few years who was a trumpeter, and he said the German Shepherd would stay in the room with him and sleep while he practiced, but she made sure she wasn't in the recieving direction of the trumpet.    
(back) Subject: Organs From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 21:44:03 EDT   Does anyone have any "opinions" on Zimmer or Murphy organs?? My church is in the final stages (at last) of deciding which organ builder we'd like to go with on the restoration project of our dying Moller, and these seem to be the two builders who are in the final running.   Private e-mails would be perfectly acceptable.   Thanx in advance,   Richard  
(back) Subject: Playing things wrong-- on purpose From: "Mike" <organist@clover.net> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:26:50 -0700   Hi Pipechatters!   Has anyone here ever been asked to play hymns, wrong to satisfy the way the minister prefers to sing it rather than how it's notated in the book? Examples would be like dropping a couple of beats from a whole note, singing quarter notes as 8th notes, etc.   For most of the general hymns, this isn't much of a problem, but where it really shows up is in "praise songs" arranged as 4 part hymns. Such arrangements generally will have a lot of flow and movement in the vocal parts suddenly interrupted by two whole notes tied together that seem to go on forever.   This is one of the problems you encounter when some editor or arranger tries to FORCE a composition into a format different from that intended by the composer. In the originals, the long held notes are balanced out by moving notes in the accompaniment. When possible, I just play the piece in it's original version. If I can't get = to an original, I keep some kind of movement going through the long notes so it doesn't feel like running into a brick wall. If the arrangement's not too far out, I just play it as written.   Some of these arrangements are just plain, flat out, poor arrangements. They're cheesy and don't work. Is my job as an organist to "change" such pieces to make them sound better? Is my job to make up for the deficiencies of others? Should bad arrangements be played as written, in all their bad glory, exposing those particular editors and arrangers for the charletains they are?   The minister wants to meet with me this week. He's doing some newer hymns on Sunday, and he wants to sing through them with me playing so I can see how he sings and adjust my playing accordingly. The two pieces in question I have the originals for, and plan to play them from the piano. I'm expecting that this will be OK. It's the "brick-wall" effect the minister doesn't like.   Here's the rub. The previous organist at this church did not count well. He often dropped beats and played rhythms wrong. When I took over, I found that the congregation still sang things "wrong" while I played them "right." After three years, they're finally counting with me, and singing with accuracy. I really don't want to unravel all this by starting to play things wrong.   Do I have a reason to be concerned?   Thanks, Mike        
(back) Subject: Re: Playing things wrong-- on purpose From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 22:47:20 -0400   in my world, it's easier to go with the congregational flow on praise = songs if the crowd learned them wrong. but if the hymn is 'lauda anima' they'll soon learn the correct way to sing it.   (joe nichols, this shouldn't surprise you.)   scot