PipeChat Digest #3902 - Sunday, August 24, 2003
 
Problems
  by "Felix Hell" <Hell-Felix@t-online.de>
RE: pitch
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Re: Problems
  by "F RICHARD BURT" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: Problems
  by "F RICHARD BURT" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: Problems
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: (Long) Pitches - perfect and non perfect
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
RE: Greetings and Salutations
  by "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au>
Re: (Long) Pitches - perfect and non perfect
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
RE: Problems
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Problems
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Problems
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
New list for sensitive subjects (x-posted)
  by "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net>
Sydney Organ List
  by "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net>
Re: Problems
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Atlantic City
  by "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net>
Re: Sydney Organ List
  by <Swedish5702@aol.com>
RE:  "Perfect pitch"
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: New list for sensitive subjects (x-posted)
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: "Perfect pitch"
  by <Swedish5702@aol.com>
Re: Atlantic City
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
Re: Atlantic City
  by "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net>
IRC tonight
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: Sydney Organ List
  by "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au>
Marion (OH) Palace Theatre 75th W/ Dennis James
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
Sydney Town Hall specs--64' in Pedal
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
Re: Atlantic City
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
 

(back) Subject: Problems From: "Felix Hell" <Hell-Felix@t-online.de> Date: 24 Aug 2003 09:40 GMT   Dear listmembers and friends,   I have a problem, but I'm probably not alone with this. I'm receiving tons of return-messages, either as "undeliverable", or "user unknown" of mails, which I have never sent. I assume, that this has to do with the current virus-problems. So I have to check my system. But, if some of you may have received either strange, or odd, or uggly, or nasty mails, using my address as sender, it was certainly not me, who se= nt those messages. And, if you have an idea, how to solve this problem quickly and e= ffectively,=20 just give me a private mail.   Felix      
(back) Subject: RE: pitch From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 08:16:04 -0500   Then, a little north of where I am in Vermont, there's Canadian pitch- = when you tune to "eh?"   Paul O   http://www.sover.net/~popel/agomain.html      
(back) Subject: Re: Problems From: "F RICHARD BURT" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 06:55:59 -0500   Hello, Felix: If you are receiving the "tons of return-messages..." you have one of the new worm viruses. If you do not have a current virus protection on your computer, get one. To quickly fix your problem, go to one of the better anti-virus home-sites and connect to one of the quick-fix programs. These programs will scan your computer for you at no charge and remove any viruses. Obviously, they want you to purchase a program that will be resident on your computer, but you need to take care of this quickly. Some of the popular/reliable anti-virus programs are: * Norton AntiVirus by Symantec * McAfee * PC-cillan by Trend-Micro (this is the one I use) IBM makes an anti-virus program, along with several others. Run "anit-virus" on one of your web browsers, like Google or Yahoo and you will find a goodly list. F. Richard Burt Dorian Organs ..  
(back) Subject: Re: Problems From: "F RICHARD BURT" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 07:05:09 -0500   Hello, Felix, et al: I wrote: > Run "anit-virus" on one of your web browsers, > like Google or Yahoo and you will find a goodly list. Since my fingers insist on transposing characters this morning, I hope you get the idea of "anti-virus" from the context. Sorry.... F. Richard Burt Dorian Organs ..  
(back) Subject: Re: Problems From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 07:16:27 -0500   At 6:55 AM -0500 8/24/03, F RICHARD BURT wrote: >Hello, Felix: > >If you are receiving the "tons of return-messages..." >you have one of the new worm viruses. >   Actually, the problem probably isn't Felix's computer. The SOBIG Virus that is running around on the Net currently uses the names/addresses in an infected computer's address book to send itself out. So the infected computer is something other than Felix's.   I have been getting tons of reject messages fro mail that I have supposedly sent out. Except there is one problem, I use a MAC which is not affected by the SOGIB virus, therefore I am not sending these messages. Actually, I have an idea of what computer is sending the messages out from reading the IP numbers in the headers of the rejected mails. But I haven't been able yet to track down who that computer belongs to.   >If you do not have a current virus protection on your >computer, get one. >   This is a MUST for EVERYONE that uses their computer on the Internet!   Felix, there is nothing you can do about these messages that you have supposedly sent. Just keep trashing the reject messages. However, I would run a check just in case but most likely your computer is fine. I know that you are probably concerned that your name is being used to send out these virus messages, I know that I am about the use of my name/address but unless I can tracked down the offending computer(s) that are sending out this crap there is nothing that I can do.   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: (Long) Pitches - perfect and non perfect From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 08:22:45 -0500   A cents to cps chart is available from Peterson. Roy Redman   bobelms wrote:   > No. no Alan. I didn't get that impression at all! I can measure shift > in pitch in cents with the measuring device but I would have to do a > bit of homework to translate that into fractions of a tone shift. > Intersting subject! > Regards, > Bob Elms. > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: acfreed0904@earthlink.net > To: pipechat@pipechat.org, > Subject: Re: (Long) Pitches - perfect and non perfect > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 21:00:02 -0400 > > >On 8/23/03 8:35 PM, "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> wrote: > > > >> Alan, I have never measured the variations in pitch but I do know > >of two cases > >> in my state where a shift in temperature during the day has put > >pipework out > >> of tune. > > > >Easily believable. Now late at night here, and distressed to get the > >impression that you thought I was challenging you. Not at all! > > > >Let's talk more on, like, Monday? > > > >(Maybe sooner; let's see how the time goes. I happen to be a FAN of > >the > >ideas you are promoting. I'm WITH you) > > > >Alan > > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > >topics > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: RE: Greetings and Salutations From: "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:47:43 +0800   Nathan, I have not seen anyone reply to you regarding Sydney Town Hall organ. I can send you the stoplist if you still have not received it. I'll type it out and email it tomorrow. I will have to send it copy and paste as sending attachments is not very Popular with these viruses round the Net. Bob Elms.   ---- Original Message ---- From: Bigaquarium@netzero.net To: pipechat@pipechat.org, Subject: RE: Greetings and Salutations Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 12:03:12 -0400   >Greetings, > > My name is Nathan, I am a fan of the pipe organ in it's many >forms, and I >have just subscribed to pipechat. (C: > > I would like to start off with a question. Could anyone point me >towards >a web site that has specs and a modern stoplist for the town hall >organ in >Sydney, Australia? I    
(back) Subject: Re: (Long) Pitches - perfect and non perfect From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 09:30:30 -0500   Also, a temperature to cents calculator (simple turning chart) is = available from Laukhuff. This is only calculates around the pitch of a440, however, and does not give you the differences from one end of a rank to the other. As I understand it, these differences are because of the larger quantity = of air enclosed in a larger, versus a smaller pipe. Roy   Roy Redman wrote:   > A cents to cps chart is available from Peterson. > Roy Redman > > bobelms wrote: > > > No. no Alan. I didn't get that impression at all! I can measure shift > > in pitch in cents with the measuring device but I would have to do a > > bit of homework to translate that into fractions of a tone shift. > > Intersting subject! > > Regards, > > Bob Elms. > > > > ---- Original Message ---- > > From: acfreed0904@earthlink.net > > To: pipechat@pipechat.org, > > Subject: Re: (Long) Pitches - perfect and non perfect > > Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 21:00:02 -0400 > > > > >On 8/23/03 8:35 PM, "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > >> Alan, I have never measured the variations in pitch but I do know > > >of two cases > > >> in my state where a shift in temperature during the day has put > > >pipework out > > >> of tune. > > > > > >Easily believable. Now late at night here, and distressed to get the > > >impression that you thought I was challenging you. Not at all! > > > > > >Let's talk more on, like, Monday? > > > > > >(Maybe sooner; let's see how the time goes. I happen to be a FAN of > > >the > > >ideas you are promoting. I'm WITH you) > > > > > >Alan > > > > > > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > > >topics > > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: RE: Problems From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 09:20:08 -0500   Felix, I've used both McAfee and Norton virus protection, and recommend the latter. I have not tried the third recommended by Richard Burt. But for something like $30 or so a year, I have no troubles. And we just regularly and religiously run a scan and do the updates as we are notified. It's worth it.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Re: Problems From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:37:34 EDT   if a computer supposedly has one of these viruses, wouldn't it be easy to verify if it's your own by checking your "sent mail" to see if the bounced = e-mail actually was sent from your computer?  
(back) Subject: Re: Problems From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 10:05:31 -0500   At 10:37 AM -0400 8/24/03, BlueeyedBear@aol.com wrote: >if a computer supposedly has one of these viruses, wouldn't it be easy to >verify if it's your own by checking your "sent mail" to see if the >bounced e-mail >actually was sent from your computer?   One of the things with this SOBIG virus is that it has its own mail server engine to send out all of the emails it sends to propagate itself. So none of those emails would show up in your email client.   And the other thing is that if your computer is infected the virus does NOT use your name and/or address as the sending. That makes it much harder to track down the infected computer   I would really like to see us drop this subject of viruses as it is rather off-topic for the list. If people have questions i would prefer that they email me directly at the Administration address. Tim and I have been a bit tolerant about this discussion since it is such a big topic all over the world but I would really like to see it being dropped from this list.   Happy PipeChatting!   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: New list for sensitive subjects (x-posted) From: "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 11:41:41 -0400   Hi, folks -   I may be a bit idealistic here, but I'm trying something.   I just set up a list on Yahoogroups for the discussion of controversial = issues that face the 21st century Christian. I invite all of you with an interest in = discussing these issues - without emotion or political overtones - to join.   You'll find it at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/controversial_issues.   --Shirley    
(back) Subject: Sydney Organ List From: "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 12:05:15 -0400   Thanks for the replies! I tried going to the ozemail.com site except = the link to the organ site came up as a HTTP error... I have the stoplist = that is in the back of Audsley's Art of Organ Building but I assume it is no longer accurate. Thanks for the stop-list offer, Bob, myself and some fellow workers are curious about the organ!   = -Nate      
(back) Subject: Re: Problems From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:15:35 -0300   Well David I have been getting well over a hundred emails per day from people that belong to these lists, I know that not everyone whose email shows up actually has the virus, But how can we normally carry on when we are being bombarded by these viruses I am almost ready to throw my PC out the window, good job an = airconditioner in it is stopping me Danielwh    
(back) Subject: Atlantic City From: "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 12:45:41 -0400   Good afternoon all...   I was looking at some pics of the Atlantic City organ in the Atlantic City's Musical Masterpiece book and it looks to me like many of the chests are fairly standard double-primary windchests. On page 122 the level 4 = and 5 swell chests and the stentor mixture chest on page 132 all appear to = have primary magnets for the first channel and disc valves for the second = channel for every key channel. Does anyone know more about these?   I would assume that for the high-wind stops (50" and 100") some sort = of direct pallet action would be needed because the leather would have to be really thick to make a pouch withstand that amount of wind! Looking at = the sad picture of the Gamba Tuba offset chest rotting away it appears there = is some sort of action for each toe hole?   = -Nate      
(back) Subject: Re: Sydney Organ List From: <Swedish5702@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:29:02 EDT   Nate:   If you go to the Organ Historical Society site and order one or more of = the several CDs on that instrument they come through with the correct stoplist =   while you are enjoying listening to that fantastic instrument.   Best, Craig    
(back) Subject: RE: "Perfect pitch" From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:48:09 EDT   "Perfect pitch" seems to be a family curse.   When my daughter was all of 2 years old, she could tell me, while in another= =20 room, if I was playing a black or white key.=A0=20   I had an old piano that had been untuned for many years when I bought it, an= d=20 it was almost two whole steps low when it was first tuned.=A0 It drove me nu= ts=20 - so much so that I had monthly tunings until it was at pitch.=A0 And I conf= ess=20 I really appreciate my digital piano, as it is NEVER out of tune.   The worst, however, is listening to someone singing "between pitches."=A0 Th= at=20 will make the little hairs on the back of my neck stand up - and there's a=20 culprit in my church's choir.=A0 (Despite getting pitch from the organ, so t= his IS=20 on-topic.)   Victoria    
(back) Subject: Re: New list for sensitive subjects (x-posted) From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 15:15:57 EDT   Hello Shirley, and Listers! Happy Sunday to one and all where'er you be!   Shirley, I applaud your effort for beginning a new list for the discussion = of controversial issues facing 21st century Christians. I look forward to joining and sharing.   I do think, however, that your premise: "I invite all of you with an = interest in discussing these issues - without emotion or political overtones - to join" is considerably unrealistic. Church musicians, organists, Christians???!!! = --- without emotion or political overtones? "Let's roll !" (sincere accolades to = the memory of Todd Beamer).   Dale Rider Independence, MO      
(back) Subject: Re: "Perfect pitch" From: <Swedish5702@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 16:21:38 EDT   Victoria:   When I was in college my mentor was Dr. Hum Fishburn at Penn State. He = said all of you that have perfect pitch will be graded an A or F.   I remember my trying out for the Glee Club. You didn't play around you = were either in the center of the note or you were excused. That's why when a difficult passage was to be sung solo you always squeezed your cheeks and = had a full breath of air to fill your lungs.   Same as playing or listening to the pipe organ. I always knew when she = was ready to throw a cipher or the tuners needed calling.   One Sunday the 32' Bourdon just rumbled through the whole service. At = least the folks who watched the late show never dozed. LOL! The pastor made a comment during his message...man the furnace is doing double duty. I swear = to this day he thought it was the furnace running and not a pipe speaking without = being asked. LOL!   Or at choral rehearsal when you see someone shaking their heads it's not because they missed their part it was that darn part that refused to sing = the proper notes on the page.   Now, was that an F or B flat LOL!   Best, Craig    
(back) Subject: Re: Atlantic City From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:53:32 -0500   This doesn't answer your question Nate, I realize, but I received the following announcement, and thought I'd pass it along.   >...the internet has acquired an accurate, comprehesive, and legible = version >of the ACCH stop list. See http://www.ophicleide.org/stops/list_acch.html     In addition to this website, I'd suggest you check that of the Atlantic City Convention Hall Organ Society as well (and become a member, if you're =   able!) for much more information about this remarkable organ. http://www.acchos.org/   Welcome to Pipechat, BTW!   Tim   At 12:45 PM 8/24/2003 -0400, Nate wrote: >Good afternoon all... > > I was looking at some pics of the Atlantic City organ <snip>    
(back) Subject: Re: Atlantic City From: "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 20:27:26 -0400   Thanks for the link to the ACCH organ list! I hope things will get = started down there soon, makes me ill to think about it.     Best regards,   Nate      
(back) Subject: IRC tonight From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:43:56 -0700   LORD!   I made potato salad this afternoon in the kitchen, and it was so hot I almost passed out. Refugeed to my bedroom with TWO fans and a LARGE glass of ICE.   I have to feed kids and kats at some point, but I'm on.   Bud      
(back) Subject: RE: Sydney Organ List From: "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:52:17 +0800   Nathan, here is the stoplist of the Sydney Organ. I have paragraphed the list to avoid a mile long string of stop names. I hope the word wrap matches. The organ has been restored recently and is superb. I heard Fernando Germani play the Poulenc Concerto with the Sydney Symphony Orchestra over 50 years ago. The final chords using the big reeds was mindblowing. Bob Elms.   SYDNEY TOWN HALL ORGAN   BUILDER: Wm Hill, 1890.   1. GREAT: (28 stops): Contrabourdon 32, Bourdon 16, Open diapason I 8, Open diapason II 8, Open diapason III 8, Open diapason IV 8, Harmonic flute 8, Viola 8, Spitz flute 8, Gamba 8. Rohr flute 8,Quint 6, Harmonic flute 4, Principal 4, Octave 4, Gemshorn 4, 12th 3, 15th 2, Mixture III, Cymbal IV, Furniture V, Contra posaune 16, Poasune 8, Trumpet 8, 2. ECHO: (8) Viol d=92amour 8, Unda Maris II, Lieblich gedackt 8, Viola d=92amour 4, Flageolet 2, Glockenspiel IV, Echo dulciana cornet IV, Basset horn 8. 3. SWELL: (24) Double open diapason 16, Bourdon 16, Open diapason 8, Viola da Gamba 8, Salicional 8, Dulciana 8, Vox Angel;ica 8, Hohl flute 8, Octave 4, Gemshorn 4, Har. Flute 4, Rohr flute 4, Twelfth 3, 15th 2, Har. Piccolo 2, Mixture IV, Furniture V, Trombone 16, Bassoon 16, Horn 8, Trumpet 8, Cornopean 8, Oboe 8, Clarion 4 4. CHOIR: (20) Contra dulciana 16, Open diapason 8, Gamba 8, Dulciana 8, Flauto traverso 8, Hohl flute 8, Lieblich gedackt 8, Octave 4, Violino 4, Celestina, Lieblich flote 4, 12th 3, 15th 2, Dulcet 2, Dulciana mixture III, Bassoon 16, Vox humana 8, Clarinet 8, Oboe 8, Octave oboe 4, 5. SOLO: (20) Quintaton 16, Open diapason 8, Violin diapason 8, Flauto traverso 8, Doppek flote 8, Stopped diapason 8, Viola 8, Octave 4, Faluto traverso 4, Har. Flute 4, Mixture IV, flauto traverso 2, Contra fagotto 16, Co Anglais 8, Ciorno di bassetto 8. Orchestral oboe 8, Harmonic trumpet 8, Octvoe oboe 4, Contra tuba 16, Tuba, 8, Tuba clarion 4. 6. PEDAL: (26) Double open diapason (w) 32, Double open diapason (m) 32, Contra bourdon 32, Open diapason (w) 16, Open diapason (m) 16, Violone 16, Gamba 16, Dulciana 16, Bourdon 16, Quint 12, Octave 8, Prestant 8, Violoncello 8, Bass flute 8, 12th 6, 15th 4, Mixture II, Mixture III, Mixture IV, Contra trombone 64, Contra posaune 32, Poasune 16, Trombone 16, Bassoon, 16, Trompet 8, Clarion 4. 7. COUPLERS: 14 Interdepartmental couplers including swell to great octave and suboctave. 43 thumb pistons, solo and swell tremulants on peal, 2 pedals to couplers (Gt to ped and Sw. To ped.) 8. COMPASS: 61/30 9. ACTION: Pneumatic lever to Great, tubular pneumatic to other divisions, mechanica coupling, blowing originally by gas engine, Cres. pedals to choir and swell reeds.         --    
(back) Subject: Marion (OH) Palace Theatre 75th W/ Dennis James From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:03:44 EDT   Greetings all,   This Saturday the Marion (OH) Palace Theatre celebrates its 75th = Anniversary. The Palace is presenting, "Harmony, Vaudeville and Dennis James at the = 3/10 Wurlitzer playing songs and a silent movie.   For information call: The Palace Theatre 276 West Center Street Marion, OH Ph. 740/383-2101   Tickets $18, (Students & Seniors $16)   The Marion Palace Theatre is a beautiful John Eberson jewel located in the =   Ohio heartland, home of Warren G. Harding. The Palace Cultural Arts = Association is restoring this lovely atmospheric house.   Musically, Stan Krider    
(back) Subject: Sydney Town Hall specs--64' in Pedal From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:13:56 -0500   Thank you, Bob Elms, for reinforcing in my mind that there is at least one 64' pedal reed in this world on a playable, working instrument. In light = of this, I have a question. I've written a Toccata in A Minor that I'm about = to send to a publisher (engraved in Finale). At the end, the final downward stride in the pedal ends on low A and cries out for a 64' reed (the 32' register having already been drawn several measures earlier). I wrote "+ = 64' Reed" in my handwritten manuscript for this final phrase (rather whimsically) but didn't carry it to Finale. I just mentioned this to a friend last Sunday and said that I thought Sydney's Town Hall did indeed have such a stop. So it turns out I have two questions:   1) Does it seem ridiculous to put "+ 64' Reed" in the score, or does the fact that such a stop exists legitimize such a notation even though one's ability to carry out the composer's wish is almost nonexistent?   2) How many organs in the world have such a stop?   2a) A telling 64' flue wouldn't be half bad as a substitute, so how many = of those are there?   Many thanks,   Bob Lind ----- Original Message ----- From: bobelms <bobelms@westnet.com.au> To: <Bigaquarium@netzero.net>; <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 7:52 PM Subject: RE: Sydney Organ List     > Nathan, here is the stoplist of the Sydney Organ. I have paragraphed > the list to avoid a mile long string of stop names. I hope the word > wrap matches. <snip> > Bob Elms. > > SYDNEY TOWN HALL ORGAN > > BUILDER: Wm Hill, 1890. <<big snip>>   > 6. PEDAL: (26) Double open diapason (w) 32, Double open diapason (m) > 32, Contra bourdon 32, Open diapason (w) 16, Open diapason (m) 16, > Violone 16, Gamba 16, Dulciana 16, Bourdon 16, Quint 12, Octave 8, > Prestant 8, Violoncello 8, Bass flute 8, 12th 6, 15th 4, Mixture II, > Mixture III, Mixture IV, Contra trombone 64, Contra posaune 32, > Poasune 16, Trombone 16, Bassoon, 16, Trompet 8, Clarion 4.      
(back) Subject: Re: Atlantic City From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 22:37:22 -0500   Bigaquarium wrote:   > I would assume that for the high-wind stops (50" and 100") some sort = of >direct pallet action would be needed because the leather would have to be >really thick to make a pouch withstand that amount of wind! > I am not sure exactly what was used at Atlantic City, but with pressures like this neither pallets nor direct electric action would work, so one would have to use pouch chests. In the past I have experimented testing leather pouches by putting up to 100 psi through them with a compressor. This would be equivalent to about 2,000" wind, and I have rarely had a pouch fail. Obviously one would use thicker leather for pouches intended for very high pressures, but it would not have to be as thick as all that.   John Speller