PipeChat Digest #3914 - Friday, August 29, 2003
 
New York City
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: New York City
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: New York City
  by "Kealypaul" <kealypaul@yahoo.com>
ropartz
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: New York City
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
pedal trill and winding
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: toes only
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: toes only
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Photos on orgofftop
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@yahoo.co.uk>
Ren=E9 Blin (X-post)
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net>
Gillian Weir at St. Ignatius Loyola
  by "Hoffman, Christine" <hoffmanc@SAINTIGNATIUSLOYOLA.ORG>
 

(back) Subject: New York City From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:45:36 EDT   I'm going to New York City next week to do a concert at St. Patrick's Cathedral (Sunday, September 7). While I'm up there, I will have some = free time, and am wondering what are some good instruments to see that might be off the beaten path. I've seen Riverside, St. Bart's, etc. I would like to see some that are = less known but just as beautiful. I prefer Romantic instruments, but I'm open = to seeing anything of interest. What are some good recommendations????     Monty Bennett Friendship Missionary Baptist Church, Charlotte, NC   PS. The proposed additions to the new organ for my church were just = approved early this week by the Pastor. If anyone is interested in seeing them, = shoot me an email and I'll send the spec to you. I would post it on here, but = it's just too much bandwidth for the list.    
(back) Subject: Re: New York City From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:55:47 EDT   Monty,   I would try to see St. Anne and the Holy Trinity... great EM Skinner! If you're looking for ideas, checkout the NYC ago page, a lot of = the more noted organs in NYC are on there. If you have a moment, stop over = into Newark and see Sacred Heart Basilica. The organ is a IV/154 Schantz that = surrounds the entire room, its quite a building and quite an organ. John Miller is = the O/C. There is also a recital at Ocean Grove this Saturday at Noon. The = organ is a V/175 Hope-Jones. Ocean Grove is on the Jersey Shore line of NJ transit, =   about an hour out of the city. Good luck on organ hunting!   -Pete isherwood  
(back) Subject: Re: New York City From: "Kealypaul" <kealypaul@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:05:54 -0700 (PDT)   Ask fellow-lister Alan Freed about the one at St Luke's just off Times Square. A coupla years ago, although we weren't there for worship, we sat in on an evening rehearsal with organ and string ensemble that was really great. Truth be known I prefer rehearsals to performances, anyhow ... somehow feels more "real."   In just three weeks we're going to Manhattan again, and we've made worship at St Luke's a high priority. I want to hear the instrument again in worship repertoire.   As I recall, the organ is profiled on their website StLukesNY or something like that. Help us, Alan.   Paul E Kealy       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: ropartz From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:08:39 -0400   does anybody know where i can get a copy of guy ropartz' prelude funebre?   thanks.  
(back) Subject: Re: New York City From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:20:43 -0700   Why don't you get in touch with Sebastian Gluck and see if he can get you in to see the Temple organ? I hear it's BEYOND spectacular.   Have you heard Smoky Mary's since the last restoration/rebuild?   The Beckerath at St. Michael's Episcopal has been refurbished; the whole church has been restored; it's worth it just to see the Tiffany glass since it was cleaned.   Is the OHS list of extant organs online? There ARE some wonderful unknown instruments in Manhattan, but I can never remember where they are.   Cheers,   Bud   RMB10@aol.com wrote: > I'm going to New York City next week to do a concert at St. Patrick's > Cathedral (Sunday, September 7). While I'm up there, I will have some > free time, and am wondering what are some good instruments to see that > might be off the beaten path. > I've seen Riverside, St. Bart's, etc. I would like to see some that are =   > less known but just as beautiful. I prefer Romantic instruments, but > I'm open to seeing anything of interest. What are some good > recommendations???? > > > Monty Bennett > Friendship Missionary Baptist Church, Charlotte, NC > > PS. The proposed additions to the new organ for my church were just > approved early this week by the Pastor. If anyone is interested in > seeing them, shoot me an email and I'll send the spec to you. I would > post it on here, but it's just too much bandwidth for the list.        
(back) Subject: pedal trill and winding From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:26:17 EDT   Gary:   What your organ most likely needs is a "winker" or concussion bellows, probably on the great windchest. To really diagnose it, I'd have to look = at it. A winker acts as a shock absorber. The regulator (or reservoir) on the pedal = (and great) should regulate around the tremors created by your trills so you = might want to have it checked. Winding an organ can be tricky and one of my = fellow builders describes it as "the black arts."   Good luck:   Alan B   Alan A. Binger Organbuilder Inc. Freehold, NJ      
(back) Subject: Re: toes only From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:09:39 EDT   Hi Terrick:   There's a lot more here to the all toe argument. French pedals, were short, and the compass much less expansive, so toes were comfortable. Spanish Toe buttons same thing. The range of pedal notes was expanded during Bach's time to 25 to 30 notes on a flat pedalboard depending on the instrument in Germany. I could envision the old boy sneaking a heel in occasionally. My major objection, and it is a personal one, modern pedalboards are standardized 30 to 32 notes, most concave and radiating, to facilitate smoother toe heal counterpoint. My question, Why go to the trouble to effect an older technique to authenticate period performance? You simply don't have to. What was impossible back then is possible now.   The same goes for playing the manuals. They used shorter keys, so they adapted a technique to overcome a problem. Our keys are standardized in length, depth, and height and width to facilitate using all the fingers = to play counterpoint. Why go back to a technique for an old fashioned keyboard when you don't have to?   I just don't buy the articulation argument. Articulation has never been easier to affect than on modern organ manuals and pedalboards. Our keyboards manual and pedal are simply different than in the 15th to the 19th century counterparts. The mechanics are different too as well as the tuning techniques, voicing, winding and any other thing one can think of. Hopefully things have evolved and we solve our problems differently than they did back then.   Man is a problem solver,   Ron Severin   PS It makes no sense to tune period instruments to modern temperment if you wish to authenticate everything else Baroque. It's just plain = silly, but the venue of so called Baroque purists. Why do only have measures? Old fingerings and toe only on an evolved instrument, tune it the way they did during the Baroque period to get even closer to the real thing. Why = not? Go all the way!    
(back) Subject: Re: toes only From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:35:34 EDT   In a message dated 8/29/2003 12:10:45 AM Central Daylight Time, RonSeverin@aol.com writes: tune it the way they did during the Baroque period to get even closer to the real thing. Why = not? Go all the way! Some people do! My house organ is tuned in Werckmeister! And it has a = flat pedal board! lol :)   Gregory Ceurvorst M.M. Organ Performance Northwestern University Director of Music and Organist St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL 847.332.2788 home 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Photos on orgofftop From: "John Foss" <harfo32@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 06:46:12 +0100 (BST)   Bob, Unless your yahoo groups layout is different to mine you should have a menu on the left of the screen. This offers you a variety of options including Home, messages, chat, files and PHOTOS Click on photos and then open the TRAINS album and there you should be,   Yes, John, you are absolutely right - it was an Adams 4-4-2 which was needed because of the sharp curve coming down into Axminster and the Uplyme Viaduct, which had sunk at one end shortly after completion and was never quite the same again! John Foss   Bob Conway wrote: John, where, and how do I find the photos? I opened the web page OK, but I cannot see how or where to open the photos.   John Speller wrote: This would have been one of the Adams 4-4-2 tanks of the former London & South Western Railway which were amongst the oldest steam locomotives in Britain, having been specially kept for the Lyme Regis branch because of their light axle loading.   John Foss     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D www.johnfoss.gr http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/ Topics of the week : Scrimbleshanks in territorial dispute Playing the piano in public   ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Ren=E9 Blin (X-post) From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:26:57 -0700   In my continuing quest for organ symphonies, I have reached a dead end = on the Symphonie of Rene' Blin...=20 I find no recording nor any source for the score   Anyone have access to this work?   Thanks for the help,   Jonathan     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/03  
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