PipeChat Digest #3922 - Sunday, August 31, 2003
 
Re: Naji Hakim
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Highland Cathedral -- for Organ?
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
RE: Highland Cathedral -- for Organ?
  by "Mari" <mreive@tampabay.rr.com>
Re: Emergency 911 location calls - contact Legislators!!!
  by <melisma@uniserve.com>
Re: Naji Hakim
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Krebs Chorale Prelude, "Sleepers Awake"
  by "Ron Troop" <ronnymn@frontiernet.net>
Re: de Maleingreau
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net>
Re: de Maleingreau
  by "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com>
Re: Liszt Ad Nosin London
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Highland Cathedral -- for Organ?
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
RE: Krebs Chorale Prelude "Sleepers Awake"
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
OHS Inventory Reduction
  by "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org>
Re: Messiaen, Jon Gillock & Naji Hakim
  by <OrgelspielerKMD@aol.com>
Re: Messiaen
  by "Petri Vahatalo" <petri.vahatalo@phnet.fi>
(no subject)
  by "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com>
St Ann & Holy Trinity; was Romantic beasts in NYC
  by "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com>
Liget's Volumina
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Ligeti's Volumina
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Ligeti's Volumina
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Ligeti's Volumina
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Ligeti's Volumina
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Ligeti's Volumina
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Ligeti's Volumina
  by "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net>
Re: Ligeti's Volumina
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Ligeti's Volumina
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: St Ann & Holy Trinity
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: St Ann & Holy Trinity
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Ligeti's Volumina
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Naji Hakim From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 06:17:24 EDT   In a message dated 8/30/2003 9:11:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, azeilenga@theatreorgans.com writes:   > Is anyone proofreading their emails before they send them?   No. what fun is that? dale    
(back) Subject: Highland Cathedral -- for Organ? From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:01:04 EDT   Hi, Y'all!   I soon am to do a wedding and the bride has requested "Highland Cathedral" = as part of the prelude music. I've heard a zillion bagpipers play it, but = never an organ derangement. Does such thing exist? Is there a piano score = available? Has anyone played this?   Thanks for your help, as always.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea    
(back) Subject: RE: Highland Cathedral -- for Organ? From: "Mari" <mreive@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:29:41 -0400   I can't remember if theres an organ arrangement, but if you contact = Dornoch Cathedral in Scotland, they should know. Mari -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of DarrylbytheSea@aol.com Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 7:01 AM To: PIPORG-L@LISTSERV.ALBANY.EDU Cc: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Highland Cathedral -- for Organ?     Hi, Y'all!   I soon am to do a wedding and the bride has requested "Highland = Cathedral" as part of the prelude music. I've heard a zillion bagpipers play it, but never an organ derangement. Does such thing exist? Is there a piano score available? Has anyone played this?   Thanks for your help, as always.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea    
(back) Subject: Re: Emergency 911 location calls - contact Legislators!!! From: <melisma@uniserve.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:08:29 +0900   And this has WHAT to do with the organ, on an *international* list??     Melisma (under her Rock, trying to decide if she should be peeved or not)         Quoting ProOrgo53@aol.com:   > Consumers can still register through Sunday, August 31 for the = Do-not-call > list by dialing 1-888-382-1222 or visiting http://www.donotcall.gov. > > Snowden is urging consumers to also contact both their cellular = telephone > companies and state officials to urge them to provide what is known as > Enhanced > 911 service, which allows an operator to pinpoint the location or the = number > of > a wireless call. > > Though wireless customers pay a surcharge for E911 service, some cell = phones > > and transmission towers cannot transmit the location of the caller, and > cash-strapped local > and state governments have not spent the money they've collected to = install > the new technology, instead using it to close budget gaps. > > Hope this is helpful information, > Dale Rider >      
(back) Subject: Re: Naji Hakim From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 08:24:08 -0400   On 8/30/03 9:10 PM, "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> wrote:   > Is anyone proofreading their emails before they send them? I don't know > how many different ways I've seen M. Hakim's name spelled, but it has > been more than 3   The only Hakims I've known were Arabic Lebanese. So a transliteration = into the Latin alphabet is less than an exact science. I'm having breakfast = this morning with Isak. He's a Finn. But you might know him as Isaac. How = many ways are there to spell Kadaffy/Qadafi, etc.?   Alan    
(back) Subject: Krebs Chorale Prelude, "Sleepers Awake" From: "Ron Troop" <ronnymn@frontiernet.net> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 08:24:00 -0500   I have been primarily an amateur "lurker", but the above piece has forced this inquiry. I recently downloaded the above and on listening to it, set out to immediately learn to play it. I found it amongst my music in "A Treasury of Shorter Organ Classics" edited by Biggs. Portions of it (certainly not the Pedal line) seem nearly unplayable for me. (I am able = to work thru some of Bach's Trio Sonatas-granted with some effort.). While I do not know the performer or registration of the version I downloaded, it has a "sparkling" (flutes?) accompaniment to the melody in the Pedal, certainly not "full to mixtures" as Biggs suggests. Your answer might = well be," yes, it is a difficult piece". So be it then. But, maybe there is = an easier version out there or perhaps the original for organ and trumpet can be "sight" adapted more easily than Biggs' adaptation? Or, perhaps there are fingering or interplay "tricks" between left and right hand in certain measures? Would appreciate any info from your leaned group. Ron    
(back) Subject: Re: de Maleingreau From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 06:34:46 -0700   Dear Dale,   THANK YOU!   What an interesting-looking piece....   Would you like his Symphonie de la N=F6el? I have that on order from = overseas, and it will arrive soon...   Best wishes,   Jonathan       --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/03    
(back) Subject: Re: de Maleingreau From: "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 07:17:55 -0700     ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jonathan Orwig=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 6:34 AM Subject: Re: de Maleingreau >What an interesting-looking piece....   >Would you like his Symphonie de la N=F6el? I have that on order from = overseas, and it will arrive soon...   Not sure what the original context was, but in an odd coincidence this = morning I'll be playing an obscure but interesting piece by Maleingreau, = Offrande musicale, op. 18, no. 1. (There's also a second Offrande in the = opus.) 6 pages, ABA, with the more animated "B" section calling for = Cesar Franck-size hands or better. "A" section an aria first for Montre = accompanied by Swell Gambe, repeated on Swell Trompette accompanied by = Great Violoncelle. Like much of Maleingreau, it really doesn't sound = like anyone else.   MAF=    
(back) Subject: Re: Liszt Ad Nosin London From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:34:09 EDT   The most thrilling in-person performance of the "Ad nos, ad Salutarem Undam" I ever experienced was at Saint Paul's Cathedral in London, sitting =   beneath the dome. The organ scholar's performance made full use of the = acoustic and the distribution of the organ between the Quire, Dome, and West End. He played it more as a four-movement, monothematic piano concerto transcribed for organ, but viewed through the eyes (and ears) of a man who = understood the intentions of the organbuilders who brought that instrument to its present, evolved state. No recording, and no fake alternative to that instrument, could have duplicated the physical and emotional experience. Sebastian M. Gluck New York City 43 years in NYC and never releathered...  
(back) Subject: Re: Highland Cathedral -- for Organ? From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:39:45 +0100   Put "Highland Cathedral" "sheet music" into Google - it will soon find = some sources for you. I have a song score on three staves - easy enough to play on the organ.   Regards,   Bruce Miles   website - http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> To: <PIPORG-L@LISTSERV.ALBANY.EDU> Cc: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 12:01 PM Subject: Highland Cathedral -- for Organ?     > Hi, Y'all! > > I soon am to do a wedding and the bride has requested "Highland = Cathedral" as > part of the prelude music. I've heard a zillion bagpipers play it, but never > an organ derangement. Does such thing exist? Is there a piano score available? > Has anyone played this? > > Thanks for your help, as always. > > Yours, > > Darryl by the Sea >    
(back) Subject: RE: Krebs Chorale Prelude "Sleepers Awake" From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:11:52 -0500   I'd say to keep working on it as it is. I've never played it with full anything - Krebs was an asti spumanti kind of guy, so he should sparkle. The first time I heard it, it was with the trumpet playing the melody, and went over well (and I think I actually have a book of Krebs' works with trumpet parts somewhere). I finally got tired of hunting for an instrumentalist to play the melody and learned the thing myself. It's not hard at all once you get the feel for it, and it's a lot more fun for solo organ. The constant sixths are good practice.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com (who in another life studied Chopin fingering with Joseffy - also probably a wrong spelling - and shot him in a duel after arguing over it; no substitution of fingers is allowed on the trigger finger)          
(back) Subject: OHS Inventory Reduction From: "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:18:47 -0400   OHS is conducting its first sale, ever, at http://www.ohscatalog.org. = Many items in a special group have been reduced in price for an Inventory Reduction Sale which will end September 30. Please take a look.      
(back) Subject: Re: Messiaen, Jon Gillock & Naji Hakim From: <OrgelspielerKMD@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 13:43:22 EDT   In a message dated 8/31/03 5:02:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 pipechat@pipechat.org writes:   I must just say that Jon Gillock is indeed a fine musician and so is Naji=20 Hakim....though about this "anointed" thing, who might know if there was one= =20 "anointed" or many? Might there be a factual or more reliable source out th= ere? =20 BTW, I had a master class with Naji Hakim as well at the 2003 Region III=20 Convention in VA. For the little time we had, he covered a lot of material=20= and I=20 found the session very helpful. The man is indeed a genius!!!   Sincerely, Christopher J. Howerter, SPC       > From: ProOrgo53@aol.com=20 > To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 > Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 3:15 PM > Subject: Re: Messiaen, Jon Gillock &Naji Hakim >=20 >=20 > In a message dated 8/30/2003 12:18:31 PM Central Daylight Time,=20 > walterg@nauticom.net writes: >=20 >=20 > >However, Jon Gillock, a Phillip Truckenbrod Artist, is the only living=20 > human being that is approved by Messiean's living family to be able to=20 > interpret his music in the proper manner. I remember once participating in= a master=20 > class with him on Mendelssohn..... > >Anyway, he does teach at Juilliard, though he lives in France. Years=20 > ago, > >when he lived in the US, my teacher, Stephen Williams, studied with him= .. > > > >Sincerely, > >Christopher J. Howerter, SPC >=20 >=20 > Some would beg to differ re: Jon Gillock's reputed status as "the only=20 > living human being that is approved by Messiaen's living family to be able= to=20 > interpret his music in the proper manner." No offense to Dr. Jon Gillock.= He is=20 > a wonderful musician IMO; I was privileged to witness him perform in New=20 > York City during the 1989 AGO Regional Convention.=20 >=20 > Nevertheless, it was Olivier Messiaen, himself, who designated Naji Hakim= =20 > as his successor at l'=E9glise de la Trinit=E9, Paris, just prior to his=20= death. =20 >=20 > Naji Hakim, for those who may not know, was born in Beirut in 1955. Afte= r=20 > completing his Law degree (satisfying his father), Nakim studied organ wit= h=20 > Jean Langlais, and at the Conservatoire National Sup=E9rieur de Musique de= =20 > Paris, in the classes of Roger Boutry, Jean-Claude Henry, Marcel Bitsch, R= olande=20 > Falcinelli, Jacques Cast=E9r=E8de and Serge Nigg, where he obtained first=20= prizes=20 > in harmony, counterpoint, fugue, organ, improvisation, analysis and=20 > orchestration.=20 >=20 > He also received first prizes at the International Organ Competitions at=20 > Haarlem, Beauvais, Lyon, Nuremberg, St. Albans, Strasbourg and Rennes, the= =20 > composition prize of the "Amis de l'Orgue" for his Symphonie en Trois Mouv= ements=20 > (Paris, 1984), and the first prize in the International Competition for Or= gan=20 > Composition, in memory of Anton Heiller for The Embrace of Fire=20 > (Collegedale, Tennessee, 1986).=20 >=20 > In 1991, he received the Prix de Composition Musicale Andr=E9 Caplet from= the=20 > Acad=E9mie des Beaux-Arts. His many published compositions include=20 > instrumental, symphonic and vocal works. From 1985 until 1993, Nakim was p= rincipal=20 > organist of the Basilique du Sacr=E9-Coeur, Paris. >=20 > Cordially, > Dale G. Rider=20 >=20 >=20      
(back) Subject: Re: Messiaen From: "Petri Vahatalo" <petri.vahatalo@phnet.fi> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 22:10:12 +0300   >"Hans Ola Ericsson? I can't say I heard of him." > >He's Swedish, living and teaching in Bremen, Germany. He and Naki Hakim   He is Swedish, he lives and teaches in Pite=E5, kinda high up in the North of Sweden. In Bremen he holds a position of a visiting professor.   Hans-Ola could (and should) be considered some kind of authority in Messiaen's music. I witnessed an absolutely stunning interpretation of Apparition de l'=C9glise Eternelle just a couple of weeks ago. And he is not just interpreter but also a scholar in modern music, not just Messiaen.   And Hans-Ola is very nice, as is Naji Hakim!   Greetings from Finland, -Petri -- =2E----------.----------.----------.----------.----------. Petri Vahatalo, Pharmacist Kuntokatu 21, FIN-15900 Lahti, Finland tel. +358 3 753 4101, fax +358 3 753 4102 mobile +358 50 64336, e-mail petri.vahatalo@phnet.fi =2E----------.----------.----------.----------.----------.  
(back) Subject: From: "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:35:26 -0400   I have, indeed (remember, I helped maintain the organ for several years), but they had a decade or so of relative peace and quiet. The more recent "troubles" were certainly reincarnations of the earlier ones. David Baker   > The "last few years"? Have you heard the stories from the 1940s, > 1950s, > 1960s, and 1970s? > > Alan    
(back) Subject: St Ann & Holy Trinity; was Romantic beasts in NYC From: "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:31:48 -0400   Further to the St. Ann & Holy Trinity (developing?) thread, the use of parish facilities for classrooms isn't really new. Clergy problems aside, there were times when it was wondered whether the church building was still a church building or merely the site of a secular arts program. "The Arts at St. Ann's" was a big-time music/theatre/"performance art" program that, fortunately, never was admitted to the organ chamber although I feel certain they tried. The organ truly is a huge beast in the rear gallery, party horn and all. It may be one of the few unaltered E.M. Skinners around any more.   david baker    
(back) Subject: Liget's Volumina From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:07:08 EDT   i've never seen the score to volumina, and would like to.   the recording i have is of zsigmond szathmary at st. martin church, olten, =   switzerland on nov. 4-5, 1995.   btw, for those of you who don't know, volumina was composed over the year change, december 1961 - january 1962. this is known as the "ligeti = split."  
(back) Subject: Re: Ligeti's Volumina From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:18:03 EDT   if you've finished groaning over my previous e-mail, here's some more info = on volumina's premiere. this is written by ligeti himself:   "hans otte asked me for an organ work to be performed in bremen cathedral; = that was my first 'composition commission.'" karl-erik welin then played volumina in may, 1962 -- but the bremen premiere proceeded in the most = curious way. welin practiced on the organ in goteborg cathedral. volumina begins with = a cluster whereby all the stops are pulled out, coupled with this one = manual; i had tried all of this out already on a smaller, mechanical organ at the vienna conservatory, but no one could have foreseen that the electrical = circuits of the goteborg organ would be overloaded by playing so many pipes at once. when welin turned on the motor, smoke poured from the vicinity of the = pipes, followed by a horrid stench of burning rubber (from the insulating layer = of the electrical wires). it was later found that all the mechanical parts made = of soft metal (lead and tin) had melted. the insurance company refused to = pay, because the investigation revealed that at some point someone had used a = bent sewing needle in the place of a normal fuse (forgetting to replace this = makeshift arrangement with a real fuse). and this in safety-mad sweden!   "when news of the 'burnt-down' goteborg organ reached the bremen church council, they decided to cancel the concert in the cathedral. (the other = reason was that hans otte wanted to have dancers perform in his piece.) so the 'premiere' was heard in a concert at the bremen radio, from a = tape-recording welin had made on the organ in the johanniskyrkan in stockholm (tested first for =   safety). alas, the tape used on the tape recorder at swedish radio had = been too short, and we found out only just before the performance that a few = minutes were missing from the end of the piece."   kinda sounds to me like the music has a curse on it...  
(back) Subject: Re: Ligeti's Volumina From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:43:34 -0500   BlueeyedBear@aol.com wrote:   >if you've finished groaning over my previous e-mail, here's some more = info on >volumina's premiere. this is written by ligeti himself: > >"hans otte asked me for an organ work to be performed in bremen = cathedral; >that was my first 'composition commission.'" karl-erik welin then played =   >volumina in may, 1962 -- but the bremen premiere proceeded in the most = curious way. > welin practiced on the organ in goteborg cathedral. volumina begins = with a >cluster whereby all the stops are pulled out, coupled with this one = manual; i >had tried all of this out already on a smaller, mechanical organ at the >vienna conservatory, but no one could have foreseen that the electrical = circuits of >the goteborg organ would be overloaded by playing so many pipes at once. =   >when welin turned on the motor, smoke poured from the vicinity of the = pipes, >followed by a horrid stench of burning rubber (from the insulating layer = of the >electrical wires). it was later found that all the mechanical parts made = of >soft metal (lead and tin) had melted. the insurance company refused to = pay, >because the investigation revealed that at some point someone had used a = bent >sewing needle in the place of a normal fuse (forgetting to replace this = makeshift >arrangement with a real fuse). and this in safety-mad sweden! > >"when news of the 'burnt-down' goteborg organ reached the bremen church >council, they decided to cancel the concert in the cathedral. (the other = reason >was that hans otte wanted to have dancers perform in his piece.) so the >'premiere' was heard in a concert at the bremen radio, from a = tape-recording welin >had made on the organ in the johanniskyrkan in stockholm (tested first = for >safety). alas, the tape used on the tape recorder at swedish radio had = been too >short, and we found out only just before the performance that a few = minutes were >missing from the end of the piece." > I believe the first perfomance in England also succeeded in blowing a fuse on the organ at the Royal Festival Hall. Fortunately there were no knitting needles there, so it was just a matter of replacing the fuse.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: Ligeti's Volumina From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:50:33 -0400   hmmmm... so it happened in england, too... wonder how many organs = volumina has damaged.   and i wonder if it would damage mine, too. hey, it's worth a try!  
(back) Subject: Re: Ligeti's Volumina From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:50:37 -0400   hmmmm... so it happened in england, too... wonder how many organs = volumina has damaged.   and i wonder if it would damage mine, too. hey, it's worth a try!  
(back) Subject: Re: Ligeti's Volumina From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:50:39 -0400   hmmmm... so it happened in england, too... wonder how many organs = volumina has damaged.   and i wonder if it would damage mine, too. hey, it's worth a try!  
(back) Subject: Re: Ligeti's Volumina From: "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:56:17 -0400   "wonder how many organs volumina has damaged."   Larry Phelps designed an anti-Ligeti device in the organ he built for Oral =   Roberts U..     noel jones, aago 423 887-7594   rodgers organ users group, www.frogmusic.com/rodgers.html frogmusic press, executive director    
(back) Subject: Re: Ligeti's Volumina From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:06:26 -0400   In a message dated 8/31/2003 4:56:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = gedeckt@usit.net writes:   > Larry Phelps designed an anti-Ligeti device in the organ he > built for Oral > Roberts U..   you sure it wasn't an anti-oral device??  
(back) Subject: Re: Ligeti's Volumina From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:06:30 -0400   In a message dated 8/31/2003 4:56:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = gedeckt@usit.net writes:   > Larry Phelps designed an anti-Ligeti device in the organ he > built for Oral > Roberts U..   you sure it wasn't an anti-oral device??  
(back) Subject: Re: St Ann & Holy Trinity From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 17:39:44 EDT   While the organ is hardly unaltered, most would agree that it can be gotten back to a reasonable approximation of its original state, which = accounts for the present desire to restore it. The physical appearance of the = shallots and the tone of some of the reeds are indicative of drastic alteration. Although I know nothing about the project, I assume that the plan is eventually replace the replacement console with something more in keeping = with the original. I believe a fifth manual and fields of unreadable knobs were = added for unidiomatic expansion in decades past. Sebastian M. Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Re: St Ann & Holy Trinity From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:53:16 -0400   On 8/31/03 5:39 PM, "TubaMagna@aol.com" <TubaMagna@aol.com> wrote:   > I assume that the plan is eventually replace the replacement console = with > something more in keeping with the original. I believe a fifth manual = and > fields of unreadable knobs were added for unidiomatic expansion in = decades > past.   That certainly accords with my observation of 10-15 years ago--though mine was IMMENSELY more superficial than yours Forests of drawknobs, with most of them with BandAids on them.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Ligeti's Volumina From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:06:21 -0400   On 8/31/03 4:18 PM, "BlueeyedBear@aol.com" <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> wrote:   > if you've finished groaning over my previous e-mail, here's some more = info on > volumina's premiere. this is written by ligeti himself: > I hear it said that it's bad manners to write your posts in ALL CAPS. I must say that you're a very mannerly fellow, Mr. Bear.   > "hans otte asked me for an organ work to be performed in bremen = cathedral; > that was my first 'composition commission.'" karl-erik welin then = played > volumina in may, 1962 -- but the bremen premiere proceeded in the most = curious > way. > welin practiced on the organ in goteborg cathedral. volumina begins = with a > cluster whereby all the stops are pulled out, coupled with this one = manual; i > had tried all of this out already on a smaller, mechanical organ at the > vienna conservatory, but no one could have foreseen that the electrical > circuits of > the goteborg organ would be overloaded by playing so many pipes at once. > when welin turned on the motor, smoke poured from the vicinity of the = pipes, > followed by a horrid stench of burning rubber (from the insulating layer = of > the > electrical wires). it was later found that all the mechanical parts = made of > soft metal (lead and tin) had melted. the insurance company refused to = pay, > because the investigation revealed that at some point someone had used a = bent > sewing needle in the place of a normal fuse (forgetting to replace this > makeshift > arrangement with a real fuse). and this in safety-mad sweden! > > "when news of the 'burnt-down' goteborg organ reached the bremen church > council, they decided to cancel the concert in the cathedral. (the = other > reason > was that hans otte wanted to have dancers perform in his piece.) so the > 'premiere' was heard in a concert at the bremen radio, from a = tape-recording > welin > had made on the organ in the johanniskyrkan in stockholm (tested first = for > safety). alas, the tape used on the tape recorder at swedish radio had = been > too > short, and we found out only just before the performance that a few = minutes > were > missing from the end of the piece." > > kinda sounds to me like the music has a curse on it...   I'll have apologize later.   Alan