PipeChat Digest #4134 - Monday, December 1, 2003
 
RE: Time delay
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
Re: Bethlehem PA combo organ
  by <OrgelspielerKMD@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Time delay From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:34:50 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   At first: Welcome to PipeChat!   At second: The delay problem. We had a similar problem with the EP Walcker at the priest seminar in Caracas. Organ in the choir gallery; console 60 meter away in the chancel. It was installed in the 1950's when electric action "remote consoles" wer= e 'le dernier cri' and their possibilities seemed unlimited. The big handic= ap however is precisely the time delay.   For laymen only: Sound doesn't travel fast - 340 meter per second at 15=BA Celsius; and if the console is some 50+ yards away from the organ trouble starts because the sound delates a fraction of a second to reach your ear= at the console- but this fraction is enough to mess up your coordination, mostly on quick passages.   The first solution is headphone-monitoring as Mike Franch suggested. The other solution (applied in the priest seminar in 1989) is to move the console closer to the organ. A third solution: "Play over" the delay, but= I won't reccomend this one for you as beginner who will have to learn the organ playing technique well.   Good luck with your career; organ is fascinating. Now, a question in retu= rn: could you tell us a little more about the organ itself? Who was or were t= he builders, specification, etc- I am just learning about british and US-american organ building and their characteristics and welcome any information about this.   Cheers Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.      
(back) Subject: Re: Bethlehem PA combo organ From: <OrgelspielerKMD@aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 12:31:52 EST   Dear Bill,   This organ you have asked about, I, in fact, played. It was when I was searching for a new teacher, that I considered Dr. Alan Birney. I then = came in to play for him and had some time by myself on the (brand new) instrument, at =   that time. I believe it was all tonally finished, though things may have = been changed, I'm not sure. I must let you know that I know nothing about the previous instrument, other then that fact that it had a very tough action = (so I was informed...). I really don't know, however. I must say that a = pipe/digital combination in general is more pleasant than that of a fully digital = organ, as the principal chorus is the hardest thing to get it to sound real. I also =   will say that I have seen and played many organs from Allen, which I have = both liked and disliked. I thought they did a splendid job with this = particular instrument, however. There were a lot of very nice qualities. I = especially liked the voicing and how the organs blended together. Burton Tidwell, who is employed by them, does a splendid job voicing. I hope this helped, do = come and see it for yourself, however, and form your own opinion. Mind you it was = a long while ago that I did play it. In fact it was over a year ago, so who = knows, things could have changed. It was fine when I played it.   Sincerely, Christopher J. Howerter, SPC Director of Music and Organist St. Paul's Lutheran Church Bethlehem, PA Cell: (610) 462-8017   In a message dated 11/30/03 5:02:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, pipechat@pipechat.org writes: Subject: Bethlehem PA combo organ From: "William Miller" <Miltronix@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 08:40:24 -0500   <Happy New Year as well...and as always, keep practicing!!!   Sincerely, Christopher J. Howerter, SPC Director of Music and Organist St. Paul's Lutheran Church Bethlehem, Pa>>   Christopher, since you're from there... can you tell me/us how the Bethlehem Ohl-Allen combo instrument sounds, if you've heard it? I played the Ohl organ maybe ten years ago and was impressed.   thanks.   Bill Miller Coleman Place PC-USA Norfolk, VA