PipeChat Digest #4167 - Monday, December 22, 2003
 
Re:  Backrests (was RE: AGO Bench Height)
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: Backrests (was RE: AGO Bench Height)
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Bats in my belfry...
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Backrests (was RE: AGO Bench Height)
  by "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re: Bats in my belfry...
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Fourth Sunday in Advent (x-posted)
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Lessons and Carols From King's College
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Lessons and Carols From King's College
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Bats in my belfry...
  by "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com>
Re: 12/24 At Nativity RC
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Christmas Eve In Chicago (x-post)
  by "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Christmas Eve In Chicago
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #4165 - 12/21/03
  by <hydrant@baskerbeagles.com>
RE: Christmas Eve In Chicago (x-post)
  by "Mari" <mreive@tampabay.rr.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #4165 - 12/21/03
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Bats in my belfry...
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
Re: Bats in my belfry...
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Bats in my belfry...
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Bats in my belfry, pigeons in my tuba
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Bats in my belfry, pigeons in my tuba
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
Re: Bats in my belfry...
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Re: Lessons and Carols From King's College
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Backrests (was RE: AGO Bench Height) From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 05:46:48 EST   >Monty, I hope this isn't a dumb question, but why didn't you just remove >those uncomfortable back rests? I would have.. :) > >Jeff     There are a couple of reasons that I didn't..... The backrest would have left ugly holes where they were bolted in if I = had done so. I was just doing an "interim" position on the Allen, so it = really wasn't my place to start dismantling the organ bench for my comfort = factor. I was just playing a concert on the Austin, so it was a one time gig. = Anyway, I tried to reomve the backrest on it, but it was mounted on these metal rods =   that came out of the bottom of the bench. It just gave me more reason to = dislike Austin consoles--I've never been a big fan and after playing on this = console, it reminded my why I hate their consoles. (I also had a near miss adding = a stop when I almost hit the cancel bar above the stop keys--those = mechanical combination actions drive me insane!)   Monty Bennett    
(back) Subject: Re: Backrests (was RE: AGO Bench Height) From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:30:23 -0500   But Monte, I trust that REAL mechanical actions do not drive you insane!   Cheers,   Malcolm - about to plunge into 18 degree weather for the trip to church, = a problem you don't have! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: RMB10@aol.com=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 5:46 AM Subject: Re: Backrests (was RE: AGO Bench Height)   <snip snip>     "I've never been a big fan and after playing on this console, it = reminded my why I hate their consoles. (I also had a near miss adding a = stop when I almost hit the cancel bar above the stop keys--those = mechanical combination actions drive me insane!)"   Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry... From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 06:18:26 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   I quite agree....leave the poor bats alone!   If they are good enough for St.Bavo, Haarlem, they are good enough for the rest of us.   I would love to have bats in the church where I play the organ. They would look good fluttering around.   Little bats, flying high, dropping messages from the sky, the priest looked up and wiped his eye, praising God that cows don't fly.     Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   --- MusicMan <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> wrote: > Dear 'All', > > I assume that this loft is outside the UK - where it > is the 'Bat exterminators' who are illegal, and the > 'Bats Have Rights' ..... !     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Backrests (was RE: AGO Bench Height) From: "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 12:11:44 -0500   Doesn't it seem that it wouldn't be too difficult to make a bench with an ADJUSTABLE - REMOVABLE backrest?     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY     On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 08:40:01 EST RMB10@aol.com writes: I have played organs with some comfortable backrests and some that I wished I could have ripped the backrest off while playing because it was in the way.  
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry... From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:43:43 -0600   They can be pretty bad, however, when they fall into the organ pipes and die. They seem particularly found of 16' Trombones and I have found several in Pedal reed resonators over the years. The first time, when I was pretty new to organbuilding, I realized something was in the resonator, and held it up to look into it and see what the obstruction was. The dead bat slid straight down the pipe and into my open mouth. That is the kind of mistake one only makes once ...   John Speller   Colin Mitchell wrote:   >Hello, > >I quite agree....leave the poor bats alone! > >If they are good enough for St.Bavo, Haarlem, they are >good enough for the rest of us. > >I would love to have bats in the church where I play >the organ. They would look good fluttering around. > > Little bats, flying high, > dropping messages from the sky, > the priest looked up and wiped his eye, > praising God that cows don't fly. > >        
(back) Subject: Fourth Sunday in Advent (x-posted) From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 15:38:38 -0500   It may sound weird (and perhaps it is), but this is the weekend of the Advent Retreat, so both pastor and cantor were away. But both made sure we were supplied with superb subs.   Primary focus on visit of Mary to Elizabeth, John "leaping in the his mother's womb," etc. These are the last very few days of preparation, leading to the darkness of Christmas Eve and the dawn of the festival of ou= r Lord's nativity. That "visit" is expressed FIVE times in the liturgy: The psalmody; the Gospel (of course); the Hymn of the Day; the Offertory anthem= ; and the Communion aria.   Prelude: Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland (BWV659) JSB. Processional: O come, O come, Emmanuel (chanted a cappella by all) Antiphons "framing" the Gospel: O Emmanuel. (1) Plainsong, mode ii, befor= e the reading; and (2) Healey Willan, after.   Hymn of the Day: The Angel Gabriel (GABRIEL'S MESSAGE) A rather dance-like Basque Advent carol, with the text a paraphrase by a fellow much more widel= y known for his "What a friend we have in Jesus" and "Onward Christian Soldiers."   Offertory anthem: My Soul Exalts Your Name, O God" (Heinrich Sch=FCtz) set b= y Robert Buckley Farlee. Soprano aria at communion: Quia respexit humilitatem (BWV243:3) JSB Hymn during communion: Come, thou long-expected Jesus (JEFFERSON [Southern Harmony]) Recessional: Savior of the Nations, Come (Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland) Postlude: ("Little") G minor fugue BWV579 JSB   That was a lot to ask of a substitute pastor AND a substitute organist/choirmaster! But it was wonderful. And we had a TON of visitors in town for the events. Haven't sung a NOTE of Christmas yes; but just wai= t until Wednesday evening! And Thursday morning! Mucho smells and bells.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Lessons and Carols From King's College From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 15:31:52 -0600   Again this year Minnesota Public Radio will be broadcasting the Festival of Lessons and Carols from King's College on Christmas Eve morning for those of us here in North America. Even if your Public Radio station isn't carrying it you will be able to listen via a streaming feed on the Net.   http://music.mpr.org/programs/festival/   David  
(back) Subject: Re: Lessons and Carols From King's College From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:06:43 -0500   Also, if you like to follow along in the libretto, it can be seen at   http://www.kings.cam.ac.uk/chapel/ninelessons/2003/index.html   It lists the (complete) order for this year.   Alan   On 12/21/03 4:31 PM, "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> wrote:   > Again this year Minnesota Public Radio will be broadcasting the Festival = of > Lessons and Carols from King's College on Christmas Eve morning for = those of > us here in North America. Even if your Public Radio station isn't = carrying it > you will be able to listen via a streaming feed on the Net. > > http://music.mpr.org/programs/festival/ >    
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry... From: "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 15:44:45 -0800   Second good reason for giving thanks that "cows don't fly"!   On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 1:04pm, John L. Speller wrote: > They can be pretty bad, however, when they fall into the organ pipes > and die. They seem particularly found of 16' Trombones and I have > found several in Pedal reed resonators over the years. The first time, > when I was pretty new to organbuilding, I realized something was in the > resonator, and held it up to look into it and see what the obstruction > was. The dead bat slid straight down the pipe and into my open mouth. > That is the kind of mistake one only makes once ... > > John Speller > > Colin Mitchell wrote: > >> Little bats, flying high, >> dropping messages from the sky, >> the priest looked up and wiped his eye, >> praising God that cows don't fly.   David E   David Evangelides Fulfillment Manager International Bible Society Colorado Springs, CO 80921  
(back) Subject: Re: 12/24 At Nativity RC From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:54:55 EST   Peter: You've made some nice selections. Your posting this has moved me to share what's up at Bowdoin St. for the Vigil of the Nativity of our Lord: --Bill H.   Christmas Vigil The Church of St. John the Evangelist (Episcopal) 35 Bowdoin St., Beacon Hill, Boston, MA The Rev'd Fr. Michael Roeske, Rector;Celebrant and Homilist The Rev'd Daphe Noyes, Deacon; Gospeler Mr. William G. Harris, Organist and Choirmaster Sr. Laurie Joseph Niblick, SSG; Cantor The Schola Cantorum of St. John's, Bowdoin St. Carols and Voluntaries: 6:00pm Solemn High Mass: 6:30pm   Carols, etc: Organ Voluntary: Wachet auf--Bach Carol: O little town of Bethlehem (ST LOUIS) Choir Voluntary: Where Riches is Everlastingly--Peter Warlock Organ Voluntary: Chorale Prelude:Es ist ein ros'--J. Brahms (op. = posthumous) Carol: Lo, how a Rose e'er blooming Choir Voluntary: Gaudete--Piae Cantiones Carol: It came upon the midnight clear (CAROL)   Solemn High Mass Prelude: Prelude, Fugue and Ciaconne--Buxtehude Introit: Divinium mysterium Hymn: O come, all ye faithful (with descant by Willcocks, free = harmonizations by Willcocks and B. Harris) Gloria: Mathias Psalm: Plainchant Gradual/Alleluia: Plainchant Gospel: Solemn tone Credo: Plainchant, mode IV Anthem: O magnum mysterium--T.L. de Victoria Hymn: Joy to the world Sanctus: Mathias Great Amen and Pater Noster: Plainchant Fraction Anthem (Agnus Dei): Plainchant, mode I Voluntary: from Weinachtsoratorium, Bach (solo) Hymn: Silent Night Last Gospel: Solemn tone Recessional: Hark! the herald angels sing (MENDELSSOHN) Postlude: Fanfare--Mathias              
(back) Subject: Christmas Eve In Chicago (x-post) From: "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:47:53 -0600   Hi! Well, with all the postings of the Liturgical churches' Christmas music lists, I figured I'd post mine from a church that is PCUSA/UMC/UCC. We do a candlelight service of lessons and carols. I'll just be posting the organ and choral music. Our service is at 7:30 and then I'll be heading over to St. James Cathedral (Episcopal) for their service- Mozart Missa Brevis in D with Full Orchestra (Is this a common Christmas Eve Mass Setting- St. Chrysostom's in Chicago is doing it as well.)     Prelude   Variations on "Il est ne" Marcel Dupre La Nativite- Jean Langais Rhapsody on Christmas Carols- Eugene Gigout Tryptich on 'Forest Green' for Violin and Organ- Kevin Hilderbrand Marcia Cozzi, Violin   During the Service   Pastoral on 'What Is This Lovely Fragrance' Austin Lovelace In The Bleak Midwinter- Harold Darke (choir) Magnificat, tone 8 (from THe Hymnal 1982)- Women's Quartet Amen- arr. Norman Luboff (choir) Carol Bradford, Soloist   Postlude   Organ Flourish on 'Joy to the World'- Michael Dell   The United Church of Hyde Park the Rev. Larry E. Turpin, D.Min- Pastor Beau Surratt, Minister of Worship and Music Organ- E.M. Skinner Opus 443, 1923, 4/43     Blessings, Beau      
(back) Subject: Re: Christmas Eve In Chicago From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:58:14 -0500   On 12/21/03 7:47 PM, "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com> = wrote:   > Well, with all the postings of the Liturgical churches' Christmas music = lists, > I figured I'd post mine from a church that is PCUSA/UMC/UCC.   Beau! Very nice indeed! Kudos!   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #4165 - 12/21/03 From: <hydrant@baskerbeagles.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:06:08 -0500   >From: Alicia Zeilenga <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> >Subject: Franck's Panis Angelicus   >> Does anyone have ideas on how I would register the Franck Panis Angelicus? >> I don't have a decent organ just now, but maybe someday...   My approach would be to use a light principal/diapason sound. To me, there is no more beautifully gentle sound. If you don't have a small 8' principal, then a 4' can be played an octave lower (using sub-coupler if desired) and 8' in the pedal to catch notes from the missing octave. Especially when accompaning a singer(s), it is often refreshing to omit 16' sound in the pedal.   Other stops depending upon the organ can be used for various solo lines, as others have suggested, or the solo can even be played on the same principal, but an octave higher. Let your ear be your guide, of course.   Good luck for finally getting a nice organ to play on. I've had precious few in my loooooooooooooooong 35 years on various benches (some with back, others without!).   The backs that bothered me most were on Moller benches, and they had springs so that when you leaned back there was the sensation of toppling over backward. Present Casavant has a wonderful back which I discovered today is very comfortable when I hook my arms around it to hold my back straight.   >> The lowest-paid secretary in a small office has a (cheap) ergonomically designed swivel chair that is adjustable ... (schnippe) ... How much more should the organist have such. Likewise, ... the pianist usually has a (upholstered in black leather!) adjustable bench.   But Alan!!! We're organists and we're supposed to be special and above all of those "earthly" accoutrements. We are not of this world (heeheehee and there is more proof daily!!!)     < Phone the bishop. Get him to come over there at his early convenience, any day of the week. Have him "confirm" them bats, en masse. They will never enter another church again (at least for a couple generations!).   Uh oh! I wonder if bats return for really tacky weddings and funerals!! ;-)   Victoria said.... >Scrape up the bat guano and sell it - it's excellent fertilizer. One bat can eat as many as 10,000 mosquitos in one night, so they're an asset, as far as I can see, as long as they're not causing any damage. >   What a wonderful suggestion. It will bring in some extra income and be far less dangerous than microwave dishes in the tower!!   The Baskerbeagles wish everyone a Merry Scritchimus and Happy Arrrrooooooo Year. Scritchies and Haruffaroo-bahawow...   Bruce and the Baskerbeagles http://baskerbeagles.com a great way to shop http://www.smartmall.biz?717886 HELP FEED ANIMALS FOR FREE http://tinyurl.com/2j5i and = http://pets.care2.com  
(back) Subject: RE: Christmas Eve In Chicago (x-post) From: "Mari" <mreive@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:09:52 -0500   As are we at St Peter's Cathedral! (in Florida) Mari   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Beau Surratt Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 7:48 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org; PIPORG-L@LISTSERV.ALBANY.EDU Subject: Christmas Eve In Chicago (x-post)     Hi! Well, with all the postings of the Liturgical churches' Christmas music lists, I figured I'd post mine from a church that is PCUSA/UMC/UCC. We do a candlelight service of lessons and carols. I'll just be posting the organ and choral music. Our service is at 7:30 and then I'll be heading over to St. James Cathedral (Episcopal) for their service- Mozart Missa Brevis in D with Full Orchestra (Is this a common Christmas Eve Mass Setting- St. Chrysostom's in Chicago is doing it as well.)     Prelude   Variations on "Il est ne" Marcel Dupre La Nativite- Jean Langais Rhapsody on Christmas Carols- Eugene Gigout Tryptich on 'Forest Green' for Violin and Organ- Kevin Hilderbrand Marcia Cozzi, Violin   During the Service   Pastoral on 'What Is This Lovely Fragrance' Austin Lovelace In The Bleak Midwinter- Harold Darke (choir) Magnificat, tone 8 (from THe Hymnal 1982)- Women's Quartet Amen- arr. Norman Luboff (choir) Carol Bradford, Soloist   Postlude   Organ Flourish on 'Joy to the World'- Michael Dell   The United Church of Hyde Park the Rev. Larry E. Turpin, D.Min- Pastor Beau Surratt, Minister of Worship and Music Organ- E.M. Skinner Opus 443, 1923, 4/43     Blessings, Beau     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org          
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #4165 - 12/21/03 From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:20:01 -0500   On 12/21/03 9:06 PM, "hydrant@baskerbeagles.com" = <hydrant@baskerbeagles.com> wrote:   > But Alan!!! We're organists and we're supposed to be special and above = all > of those "earthly" accoutrements. We are not of this world (heeheehee = and > there is more proof daily!!!)   Well, yes, of course, Bruce. That is demonstrated in my presence absolutely every week!   Alan    
(back) Subject: Bats in my belfry... From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:26:33 EST   Greetings, How about tuning the mixtures and 1/3' mutations?   These ranks ultra-high pitches just might mess up their high frequency = radar systems enough to send them packing.   ...or is this just a bunch of guano?   Stan Krider   dbaker@lawyers.com recently wrote:   The problem I have is that the church has a serious problem with bats!!! =   They are harmless except that they leave tokens of their presence in the organ chamber. Anybody have a suggestion as to how to get rid of them?    
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry... From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:49:46 -0600   Wuxuzusu@aol.com wrote:   > Greetings, > How about tuning the mixtures and 1/3' mutations? > > These ranks ultra-high pitches just might mess up their high frequency > radar systems enough to send them packing.   Or it might confuse them and cause more of them to drop into the 16' Trombone resonators.   John Speller      
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry... From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:03:13 -0500   On 12/21/03 9:49 PM, "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> wrote:   > Or it might confuse them and cause more of them to drop into the 16' = Trombone > resonators. > Please, Sir John: Send the 16' Trombone at your early convenience. = We'll take our chances on die Fledermausen! (Actually we've got a Subbass and a Fagott, so I shouldn't complain.) www.stlukesnyc.org   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry, pigeons in my tuba From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:10:58 EST   Ever see a New York City pigeon shot out of a 26" pressure hooded tuba? It's fascinating. Setting records for distance and "hang time." But I refuse to develop the concept further for military purposes...   Sebastian Off to Madrid tomorrow evening... (do we have any English-speaking list members in Madrid?)  
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry, pigeons in my tuba From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:55:22 -0600   In honor of your Iberian departure, my prelude today was "Virgo = praedicanda" by the Spaniard Joseph Muset (1889-1957). Bob Lind ----- Original Message ----- From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 9:10 PM Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry, pigeons in my tuba     > Ever see a New York City pigeon shot out of a 26" pressure hooded tuba? > It's fascinating. > Setting records for distance and "hang time." > But I refuse to develop the concept further for military purposes... > > Sebastian > Off to Madrid tomorrow evening... > (do we have any English-speaking list members in Madrid?)      
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry... From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:14:49 -0600   Hi, How about pieces of fallen plaster in D 1 of a 16' pedal trombone = made by Wicks? Shot right out of there and hit the ceiling a good 20 = feet away! Happy holidays. Gary ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Wuxuzusu@aol.com=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 8:26 PM Subject: Bats in my belfry...=20     Greetings, How about tuning the mixtures and 1/3' mutations?   These ranks ultra-high pitches just might mess up their high frequency = radar systems enough to send them packing.   ..or is this just a bunch of guano?   Stan Krider   dbaker@lawyers.com recently wrote:   The problem I have is that the church has a serious problem with = bats!!! =20 They are harmless except that they leave tokens of their presence in = the organ chamber. =20 Anybody have a suggestion as to how to get rid of them?  
(back) Subject: Re: Lessons and Carols From King's College From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 00:49:34 EST   Hello Alan,   In reference to your comment:   =E8 Also, if you like to follow along in the libretto, it can be =E8 seen at   =E8 http://www.kings.cam.ac.uk/chapel/ninelessons/2003/index.html =20   It lists the (complete) order for this year.