PipeChat Digest #4168 - Monday, December 22, 2003
 
RE: Bats in my belfry...
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
Re: Backrests (was RE: AGO Bench Height)
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: Bats in my belfry...
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Christmas at ORGANLive
  by "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@charter.net>
Re: Backrests (was RE: AGO Bench Height)
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: Bats in my belfry, pigeons in my tuba
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Bats in my belfry...
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Bats in the belfrey
  by "D Quentin Bellamy" <dqb@boltblue.com>
Re: Bats in the belfrey
  by "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca>
Re: Bats in my belfry, pigeons in my tuba
  by "Peter Rodwell" <iof@ctv.es>
Shooting Pigeons from Hooded trumpets
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: Bats in my belfry, pigeons in my tuba
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: Bats in my belfry...
  by "Nance, Daryel" <DNance@svdp-edu.org>
Re: Fourth Sunday in Advent
  by <bruce.shaw@shaw.ca>
Re: Bats in my belfry...
  by <bruce.shaw@shaw.ca>
Re: AGO Bench Height
  by <bruce.shaw@shaw.ca>
RE: Bats in the belfrey
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Re: AGO Bench Height
  by "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #4167 - 12/22/03
  by <hydrant@baskerbeagles.com>
Winter solstice
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Winter solstice
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: Winter solstice
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Fourth Sunday in Advent
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Winter solstice
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Winter solstice
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Bats in my belfry...
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Sleeping in an organ (was Bats in the Belfry...)
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Winter solstice
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Bats in my belfry... From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:26:19 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   This posting won't be be of great help for David, I fear. The abbey church of the Benedictine Monastery in Guigue had this problem. Solution: Full enclosing case and wire mesh at front. The difference is that David has to deal with an existing organ; I had to install the organ in the abbey and could design it "bat-safe" from scratch on.   Cheers Andres   ----- Original Message ----- From: David Baker <dbaker@lawyers.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 2:13 PM Subject: Bats in my belfry...     SNIP > The problem I have is that > the church has a serious problem with bats!!! They are harmless > except that they leave tokens of their presence in the organ chamber. > Anybody have a suggestion as to how to get rid of them? The church > had a bat exterminator come in a clean up, they're back. I would > welcome any ideas. Thanks. David Baker > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Backrests (was RE: AGO Bench Height) From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:15:45 EST   >But Monte, I trust that REAL mechanical actions do not drive you insane! > >Cheers, > >Malcolm - about to plunge into 18 degree weather for the trip to church, = a >problem you don't have!   Malcolm-- No, a good mechanical action is not a problem to play. The organ St. Ignatius wasn't uncomfortable to play at all, plus it had the modern = conveniences of pistons, swell boxes that actually closed the swell down to a whisper, and =   normal sized keys--not historic sized ones. I've played other mechanical = action organs that were quite enjoyable to play, too. There are some Fisks that = I've played that I had to be pulled off of. On the other hand, I've played = some mechanical action organs that were like driving Model T's. It's the same = with electric action organs. Some are joys to play and some are dogs.   Monty    
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry... From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 04:46:01 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   Aha!   I also thought this at St.Bavo, Haarlem, back in the summer during an organ concert.   Organ playing Reger, with all the squeaky stops drawn and very loud.   Bat flies down cathedral flat out, straight towards the organ.   "I wonder if a red smudge will appear on one of polished tin pipes of the 32ft?" I ask myself, as the bat closes in on the instrument at about 100mph.   Bat gets within about three feet of the organ and turns, zooming back down the church again, as its' friend does much the same thing.   Nope! They're just not affected by Carillons, Terzciimbels or Scherps....so back to the drawing board on this one.   Did some research.......   Bats send out ultra-sonic "calls" in the 20 to 200KHz range; some as loud as 120dB. They don't deafen themselves because they have ear flaps which close as they send out the sound. Clearly, bats which hear in the 100 to 200KHz range, are hearing far and away higher than anything an organ produces and, of course, far, far higher than anything we can hear. To a bat, an organ is a low frequency affair of little consequence, and I suppose it is like us being in a noisy factory and being able to hear a mobile phone ringing, and know roughly where it is.   Of course, even our own hearing is incredibly advanced and extremely accurate as a method of "echo location", but bat hearing is so well evolved, that it makes this tiny mammal the absolute master.   Now, it may be possible to design a "Bat Cymbal" using digital. Trouble is, it could have the opposite effect, and you may end up with half a million bats clinging to your church rafters!!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     PS: There was a fine Dutch organ builder called Batz!     From: Wuxuzusu@aol.com, wrote: > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 8:26 PM > Subject: Bats in my belfry... > > > > How about tuning the mixtures and 1/3' mutations? > > These ranks ultra-high pitches just might mess up > their high frequency radar systems enough to send > them packing. > > ..or is this just a bunch of guano?     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Christmas at ORGANLive From: "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@charter.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:01:53 -0600   For the next few days, ORGANLive will be broadcasting a steady stream of Christmas organ music. The station has switched over to the new MP3pro format, and if you're a live365.com preferred member, you'll notice an amazing difference in quality. ORGANLive is still free to listen to, so just go to www.organlive.com to tune in. Brent Johnson ORGANLive - Music of the organ on demand www.organlive.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Backrests (was RE: AGO Bench Height) From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:26:27 -0600   I have only ever played one organ with a backrest - and in that situation in that church it was very handy for just the purpose I assume they must have been added. It was a church where there was nowhere to go for the sermon. You were stuck on the bench for the entire service. It was quite nice to be able to lean back.   Margo   Gfc234@aol.com wrote: > I HATE backrests. What is the point of one being there? Are you > supposed to lounge back while you're playing? What ever happened > to having good balance?!!!? Beacause I'm tall, I like to sit far back on =   > organ benches-something a back rest won't allow. I would strongly > advise you not to purchase a back rest for your bench! > greg > > > > > > Gregory Ceurvorst > M.M. Organ Performance Student > Northwestern University > Director of Music and Organist > St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL > 847.332.2788 home > 708.243.2549 mobile > gfc234@aol.com <http://gfc234@aol.com/>      
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry, pigeons in my tuba From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:11:12 -0500   On 12/21/03 10:10 PM, "TubaMagna@aol.com" <TubaMagna@aol.com> wrote:   > Off to Madrid tomorrow evening... > (do we have any English-speaking list members in Madrid?)   Creo que no.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry... From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 09:38:31 EST   In a message dated 12/22/2003 6:46:53 AM Central Standard Time, cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk writes: Hello,   Aha!   I also thought this at St.Bavo, Haarlem, back in the summer during an organ concert.   Organ playing Reger, with all the squeaky stops drawn and very loud.   Bat flies down cathedral flat out, straight towards the organ.   "I wonder if a red smudge will appear on one of polished tin pipes of the 32ft?" I ask myself, as the bat closes in on the instrument at about 100mph.   Bat gets within about three feet of the organ and turns, zooming back down the church again, as its' friend does much the same thing.   Nope! They're just not affected by Carillons, Terzciimbels or Scherps....so back to the drawing board on this one.   Did some research.......   Bats send out ultra-sonic "calls" in the 20 to 200KHz range; some as loud as 120dB. They don't deafen themselves because they have ear flaps which close as they send out the sound. Clearly, bats which hear in the 100 to 200KHz range, are hearing far and away higher than anything an organ produces and, of course, far, far higher than anything we can hear. To a bat, an organ is a low frequency affair of little consequence, and I suppose it is like us being in a noisy factory and being able to hear a mobile phone ringing, and know roughly where it is.   Of course, even our own hearing is incredibly advanced and extremely accurate as a method of "echo location", but bat hearing is so well evolved, that it makes this tiny mammal the absolute master.   Now, it may be possible to design a "Bat Cymbal" using digital. Trouble is, it could have the opposite effect, and you may end up with half a million bats clinging to your church rafters!! Maybe the lions on top of the case were doing an extra good job that day! LOL Happy Holidays gfc                       Gregory Ceurvorst M.M. Organ Performance Student Northwestern University Director of Music and Organist St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL 847.332.2788 home 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com    
(back) Subject: Bats in the belfrey From: "D Quentin Bellamy" <dqb@boltblue.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:01:36 -0000   How topical to note dearly beloved brethren, that this week's BBC Radio 4 appeal is in aid of the Bat Conservsation Trust. If only they knew the naughtiness going on in organ lofts. Perhaps our batty friends should be protected from such fearsome dangers as 16' reeds and mixtures! I am aware that there are certain churches where our flying furry friends are less welcome guests; but they are so cute! (I agree that 'tis good however that cows don't fly) Q =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D David Gower appeals on behalf of The Bat Conservation Trust, registered charity no: 1012361.   The Bat Conservation Trust acts as an umbrella organization for a network = of almost 100 local bat groups across the UK and Ireland.   The Trust operates a national helpline to share advice and information = about bats and is seven years into a long-term monitoring programme to assess = the size of Britain's bat population.   To give by credit card, please ring 0800 044 044.   Or make your cheque payable to The Bat Conservation Trust   and send to:   The Bat Conservation Trust Freepost LON10138 London SW8 4BR   Q    
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in the belfrey From: "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:07:57 -0500   The biggest danger to a bat in a church is a ceiling fan.   Sadly we lose more to ceiling fans than we do to Trombones over here in = Ontario. The fans flutter seems to affect the bat's sense of location and they fly = right into them with 100% fatal results. Picking them up in little pieces is sometimes a full time job. Thus the sign on the fan switches "Turn off = fans at night" .   Nelson      
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry, pigeons in my tuba From: "Peter Rodwell" <iof@ctv.es> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:46:25 +0100   Quoting Sebastian:   > > Off to Madrid tomorrow evening... > > (do we have any English-speaking list members in Madrid?)     I take it you mean Madrid, Spain?   Which is where I am! Most people who know me agree that I speak some sort of English.   Give me a call - all list members who make it this far are invited to dinner at the McDonald's of their choice!   Phone numbers are: 91 856 6912 (home/work) 620 34 83 55 (mobile)   Best wishes,   Peter.    
(back) Subject: Shooting Pigeons from Hooded trumpets From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:50:18 -0600   Reminds me of a story of a veterinarian in the UK who became an Anglican clergyman......sorry, I forget the author and his book, but it's worth a read.   Anyhow, he tells the story of a special service where at just the right point in the message, the custodian was to release two white doves from = the gallery symbolizing the Holy Spirit (must have been a Pentecost service). The speaker said the right words, but nothing happened; again, he = thundered the magic words--and nothing happened.   This time the custodian's head popped up in the gallery, and he said, "Sorry, Reverend, the cat done got in and ate the Holy Spirit!"   ;>) Happy Holidays! Dennis Steckley & A Six-Pack of Cats    
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry, pigeons in my tuba From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:10:04 -0500   On 12/22/03 11:46 AM, "Peter Rodwell" <iof@ctv.es> wrote:   > I take it you mean Madrid, Spain? > > Which is where I am! Most people who know me agree that I speak some = sort of > English. > Oh! What a delight to be wrong when I said: Creo que no.   But it gives me an opening to say that, like Bob Lind, we celebrated Seb's Iberian venture yesterday too: With a very dance-like Basque carol: "Gabriel's Message" with a text by Sabine Baring-Gould, of all people.   Lucky you, Peter; you'll ENJOY Sebastian's company!   Alan    
(back) Subject: RE: Bats in my belfry... From: "Nance, Daryel" <DNance@svdp-edu.org> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:49:49 -0600   re:One bat can eat as many as 10,000 mosquitos in one night, so they're an asset, as far as I can see, as long as they're not causing any damage.   You do not want to harm the bats, the colony just needs to be stirred up, when they swarm out, close off their entry opening. However, know that = if you do this in the winter when the dormant bats are not actively feeding, you might cause most of the colony to die from starvation if they are disturbed. When they are not actively feeding, they for the most part, arn't pooping either. A lot of good information is available in various books authored by "Tuttle". He lives "next door" in Austin ...I'm in Houston(Tx). He has done a lot to educate folks in Texas as to why bat colonies are most beneficial ...I even have an "outdoor batroom" (bat house ...instead of a bird house) mounted in the oak tree in front of my house. (....and yes, = even though its Texas, I have "indoor batrooms"...GRIN!) Its a perfect setting on Halloween, bats in the front yard and the Toccata and Fuge in D minor coming from the practice organ in the house. Bella Laggosi (sp?) didn't have it any better in those old black and white = horror flicks. Of course, I keep snakes for pets too, but you don't want to go there.....GRIN Peace and blessings, Daryel   -----Original Message----- From: Myosotis51@aol.com [mailto:Myosotis51@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:23 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry...     Hello dbaker@lawyers.com,   In reference to your comment:   =3D=3D> Although I gave up my proud and might empire of organ =3D=3D> tuning and maintenance contracts several years ago in =3D=3D> order to prowl the halls of justice, I still have one =3D=3D> church where I maintain the organ. It was built by =3D=3D> Harry Hall, probably as a melange of a couple of other =3D=3D> instruments and does its job adequately. The problem =3D=3D> I have is that the church has a serious problem with =3D=3D> bats!!! They are harmless except that they leave =3D=3D> tokens of their presence in the organ chamber. =3D=3D> Anybody have a suggestion as to how to get rid of =3D=3D> them? The church had a bat exterminator come in a =3D=3D> clean up, they're back. I would welcome any ideas. =3D=3D> Thanks. David Baker   Scrape up the bat guano and sell it - it's excellent fertilizer. One bat can eat as many as 10,000 mosquitos in one night, so they're an asset, as far as I can see, as long as they're not causing any damage.   Is there a way to seal off the organ chamber?   Victoria      
(back) Subject: Re: Fourth Sunday in Advent From: <bruce.shaw@shaw.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:43:34 -0700   >Prelude: Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland (BWV659) JSB.   Many people don't realize this is an advent hymn even though it does = appear first in the Orgelbuchlein. I introduced it into my Advent Carol = Service a few years ago. People weren't quite sure what to make of it at = first 'cause it's in a minor key but now it's a favourite. I end up = basing my entire Advent season around it now that they recognize the = theme. I used that piece as part of my prelude to Evensong last week. I = used the Distler for Advent 1.   J. W. Bruce Shaw Organist and Choirmaster St. Stephen the Martyr Anglo-Catholic Edmonton, AB CANADA    
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry... From: <bruce.shaw@shaw.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:49:06 -0700   I'd like to nominate the Anglican Cathedral in Edmonton for the biggest = living object found amongst the pipes.   A homeless person.   Somehow a homeless person got into the church (how?) got up into the = exposed Great chamber (how??) and slept through the janitor's opening the = church (how???). Fortunately he was discovered before service started.   J. W. Bruce Shaw Organist and Choirmaster St. Stephen the Martyr (Anglo-Catholic) Edmonton, AB CANADA        
(back) Subject: Re: AGO Bench Height From: <bruce.shaw@shaw.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:10:48 -0700   An old theatre organist friend of mine, Frank Godley, told me two stories = about benches for Wurlitzers.   One he had played had a nice adjustable, rotating, cushioned chair instead = of a bench. I'm sorely tempted to rip out my bench and do the same thing.   The other had a lighted console, with a lighted bench. He said he was = sweating like a pig after the first 30 minutes and had to put in a small = seat cushion to avoid 2nd degree burns.   J. W. Bruce Shaw Organist and Choirmaster St. Stephen the Martyr (Anglo-Catholic) Edmonton, AB, CANADA    
(back) Subject: RE: Bats in the belfrey From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:23:23 -0500   Nelson: I thought the purpose of ceiling fans were there to chop the = little critters up. Why else would anyone want their ceiling fans operating in = the summer? They just blast hot air from the high up down to where people sit.   AjM   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Nelson Denton Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:08 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Bats in the belfrey   The biggest danger to a bat in a church is a ceiling fan.   Sadly we lose more to ceiling fans than we do to Trombones over here in Ontario. The fans flutter seems to affect the bat's sense of location and they fly right into them with 100% fatal results. Picking them up in little pieces is sometimes a full time job. Thus the sign on the fan switches "Turn off = fans at night" .   Nelson     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: AGO Bench Height From: "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:59:44 -0600   I heard of the 'Howard Seat' used by Theatre Organists, which is supposed to rotate or swivel to allow the performer to turn and face the audience. Not sure how well accepted they are.   David E   David Evangelides Colorado Springs, Colorado     -----Original Message----- From: bruce.shaw@shaw.ca To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:10:48 -0700 Subject: Re: AGO Bench Height   > An old theatre organist friend of mine, Frank Godley, told me two > stories about benches for Wurlitzers. > > One he had played had a nice adjustable, rotating, cushioned chair > instead of a bench. I'm sorely tempted to rip out my bench and do the > same thing. > > The other had a lighted console, with a lighted bench. He said he was > sweating like a pig after the first 30 minutes and had to put in a > small seat cushion to avoid 2nd degree burns. > > J. W. Bruce Shaw > Organist and Choirmaster > St. Stephen the Martyr (Anglo-Catholic) > Edmonton, AB, CANADA > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #4167 - 12/22/03 From: <hydrant@baskerbeagles.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:02:33 -0500   From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>   >They can be pretty bad, however, when they fall into the organ pipes and die. >   In this case, it would probably be less expensive and more helpful in the longrun to cover the tops of the reeds with thin nylon (aka, hose.... panty hose for double reeds!!). This would keep out bats, bat booboo, and dust! ... and the mosquitos as well.   At First Baptist - Gainesville, we are apparently having difficult with squirrels. They have been spotted (and vice versa) in the attic space, although not evidenced definitely in the organ chambers. However, we did have a bunch of suddenly very out of tune pipes in the Pedal Oktave 8, Super Oktave 4, and the Mixtur IV. No one had been in the chamber but the tunine slides were pushed all the way down. At least they didn't leave physical evidence!!   John.... very sorry about the "bat breath"... UGH!   Scritchies and Haruffaroo-bahawow...   Bruce and the Baskerbeagles http://baskerbeagles.com a great way to shop http://www.smartmall.biz?717886 HELP FEED ANIMALS FOR FREE http://tinyurl.com/2j5i and = http://pets.care2.com  
(back) Subject: Winter solstice From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 19:29:09 -0500   Time to check your computer's clock. A lot of them a seriously out of whack.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Winter solstice From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:00:42 -0500   At 07:29 PM 12/22/2003, Alan wrote:   >Time to check your computer's clock. A lot of them a seriously out of >whack.   Alan,   How come? My computer clock only recognises the change from Eastern Standard Time to Eastern Summer Time, or vice versa?   What has the Winter Solstice got to do with it?   Bob    
(back) Subject: Re: Winter solstice From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:12:27 -0800   Windoze sometimes changes the settings for no apparent reason ... mine was a YEAR off awhile back, and I never TOUCHED it (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   Bob Conway wrote:   > At 07:29 PM 12/22/2003, Alan wrote: > >> Time to check your computer's clock. A lot of them a seriously out of >> whack. > > > Alan, > > How come? My computer clock only recognises the change from Eastern > Standard Time to Eastern Summer Time, or vice versa? > > What has the Winter Solstice got to do with it? > > Bob > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Fourth Sunday in Advent From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:09:41 -0500   On 12/22/03 2:43 PM, "bruce.shaw@shaw.ca" <bruce.shaw@shaw.ca> wrote:   >> Prelude: Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland (BWV659) JSB. > > Many people don't realize this is an advent hymn even though it does = appear > first in the Orgelbuchlein. I introduced it into my Advent Carol = Service a > few years ago. People weren't quite sure what to make of it at first = 'cause > it's in a minor key but now it's a favourite.   Bruce, I'm cheering you on, for who and what you are! We made significant use of Nun komm yesterday. I want to hear (and learn) a LOT more from = you!   Alan Freed www.stlukesnyc.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Winter solstice From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:14:32 -0500   On 12/22/03 8:00 PM, "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> wrote:   > How come? My computer clock only recognises the change from Eastern > Standard Time to Eastern Summer Time, or vice versa? > > What has the Winter Solstice got to do with it?   Oh, nothing! It's just a "reminder" time. Like checking the batteries in your smoke alarm at the equinoxes. That's all.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Winter solstice From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:15:52 -0500   On 12/22/03 8:12 PM, "quilisma@cox.net" <quilisma@cox.net> wrote:   > Windoze sometimes changes the settings for no apparent reason ... mine > was a YEAR off awhile back, and I never TOUCHED it (grin). > I know; that's why we have to keep an EYE on 'em. Once in a while.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Bats in my belfry... From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:05:47 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   Now I would like to challenge this!!   How tall was your   __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Sleeping in an organ (was Bats in the Belfry...) From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:20:33 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   I don't know what happened to the last post....it got cut in half by Yahoo!   Anyway, what I inteneded to say was:-   I would like to offer a challenge regarding the homeless person as the biggest living object found asleep inside an organ.   It all depends how tall he was, because Denys Thurlow, the UK organ builder, slept on the Great soundboard in a sleeping bag, whilst voicing the (then) new organ of Liverpool RC Cathedral.   Denys is not over-tall, but he ain't short either.   Do you have measurements, and could we send this to the Guinness Book of Records?   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   PS: I once slept in a snow drift....don't ask!         __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Winter solstice From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 20:43:19 -0600   Mine seems to keep perfect time most of the time, then suddenly for no apparent reason it gets 1/4 hour slow. This is generally on a Sunday morning, and as I look at the time to decide when to go over to church it often makes me late for church.   John Speller   Alan Freed wrote:   >On 12/22/03 8:12 PM, "quilisma@cox.net" <quilisma@cox.net> wrote: > > > >>Windoze sometimes changes the settings for no apparent reason ... mine >>was a YEAR off awhile back, and I never TOUCHED it (grin). >> >> >> >I know; that's why we have to keep an EYE on 'em. Once in a while. > >