PipeChat Digest #4174 - Friday, December 26, 2003
 
Merry Christmas
  by "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com>
Marry Christmas
  by "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Merry Christmas
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
Gloria in excelsis deo
  by "Charlie Lester" <crlester@137.com>
Re: Merry Christmas
  by "bnorth" <bnorth@intergate.ca>
Re: Merry Christmas
  by <OrganMD@aol.com>
Re: Happy Christmas
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Gloria in excelsis deo; linguam Latinam vivet in aeternam!
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Merry Christmas From the Dentons
  by "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca>
Re: the Jesuits
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: Gloria in excelsis deo"' St Johns Anglican Church Update"
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: Gloria in excelsis deo
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
CHRISTMAS MUSIC AT HOLY ROSARY, MEMPHIS
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Merry Christmas From: "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:00:07 -0800   Wishing and praying that each of you - my new friends - will have a Blessed, Wonderful and Merry Christmas.   Christmas day is bright sunny and mild in the 50'sF.   From Colorado Springs, Colorado, David E   David Evangelides Fulfillment Manager International Bible Society Colorado Springs, CO 80921  
(back) Subject: Marry Christmas From: "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:07:35 -0800   To each of us on PipeChat, may the music we play bring a deeper awareness of the Giver of Peace, Love and Lasting Joy to our hearts.   To those facing difficult times: "Be comforted, My people."   David E   David Evangelides Fulfillment Manager International Bible Society Colorado Springs, CO 80921  
(back) Subject: Re: Merry Christmas From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 12:52:28 -0600   Merry Christmas, everyone, from a sunny -but not white- part of Illinois! Alicia Zeilenga "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis"     -----Original Message----- From: David Evangelides <davide@theatreorgans.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:00:07 -0800 Subject: Merry Christmas   > Wishing and praying that each of you - my new friends - will have a > Blessed, Wonderful and Merry Christmas. > > Christmas day is bright sunny and mild in the 50'sF. > > From Colorado Springs, Colorado, > David E > > David Evangelides > Fulfillment Manager > International Bible Society > Colorado Springs, CO 80921 > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Gloria in excelsis deo From: "Charlie Lester" <crlester@137.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:22:08 -0800   I said,   =3D-> being a LCMS Lutheran congregation, they will never go for doing it in Latin. <-=3D     Alan Freed said,   =3D-> How do they deal with "Angels we have heard on high"? <-=3D   Well, it's one thing to to three words in a refrain in Latin, when everyone on the planet practically knows what they mean -- another thing entirely to present an hour-long cantata entirely in Latin!   And just so I am clear, I meant that it's not the LATIN, itself, per se, that they would balk at --- simply that being Lutheran there is no "tradition" for Latin music or liturgy. At least, not in the past couple-hundred years! ;P Granted, that also applies to contemporary Catholics also but only for the past, what, 30 years? Latin still "runs in many Catholics' blood" and many of them still have Parochial School Latin pulsing through their veins.       =3D-> I've sent you a lead on the Dubois. <-=3D   Thx, we have been in touch.       =3D-> Did it turn out that you are a son or grandson of Bud Lester? <-=3D   No, that name does not ring a bell. There may be some remote relation but Lester is actually a fairly common name and it crosses over several ethnic groups. If I were related to all the other Lesters running loose on the planet, I'd have to be a Black Jewish Irish British French German!     ~ C    
(back) Subject: Re: Merry Christmas From: "bnorth" <bnorth@intergate.ca> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 11:24:52 -0800     And a very merry Christmas to all from the warm and sunny west coast of Canada, Vancouver, the host city of the 2010 Winter Olympic Games. So, Pipechatters, does ANYONE have a white Christmas?, with warmest regards...........Bob     > Merry Christmas, everyone, from a sunny -but not white- part of = Illinois! > Alicia Zeilenga   > > > > Christmas day is bright sunny and mild in the 50'sF. > > > > From Colorado Springs, Colorado, >    
(back) Subject: Re: Merry Christmas From: <OrganMD@aol.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:00:35 EST   Hi ...............   Merry Christmas to all members of Pipechat. It is in fact snowing in Salt =   Lake City! (Home of the 2002 Winter Olympics)   May God bless all of you!   Bill Hesterman    
(back) Subject: Re: Happy Christmas From: "John Foss" <harfo32@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:17:29 +0000 (GMT)   May I join the chorus of my fellow Brits - and everyone else - in wishing you all a Happy Christmas and a peaceful and prosperous New Year. John Foss   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D www.johnfoss.gr http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/ Topics of the week : Opera Censorship and the right to silence   ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html  
(back) Subject: Re: Gloria in excelsis deo; linguam Latinam vivet in aeternam! From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:16:55 -0800   I find it totally BIZARRE that members of my former high-church Anglican congregation will pay premium prices for seats at the symphony where they hear large-scale Latin choral works as a regular thing, and yet have a yippin' s***t-fit if some of those SAME works (the Faure Requiem comes to mind) are sung in CHURCH where they BELONG.   As far as I'M concerned, acceptance of the use or non-use of Latin has to do with EDUCATION (or LACK of it), rather than churchmanship OR belief ... I'm STILL sputtering over my former soprano section leader calling it a "furrin'" language (SEMI-chuckle).   Cheers,   Bud   Charlie Lester wrote:   > I said, > > =3D-> being a LCMS Lutheran congregation, they will never go for doing = it > in Latin. <-=3D > > > Alan Freed said, > > =3D-> How do they deal with "Angels we have heard on high"? <-=3D > > Well, it's one thing to to three words in a refrain in Latin, when > everyone on the planet practically knows what they mean -- another thing =   > entirely to present an hour-long cantata entirely in Latin! > > And just so I am clear, I meant that it's not the LATIN, itself, per se, =   > that they would balk at --- simply that being Lutheran there is no > "tradition" for Latin music or liturgy. At least, not in the past > couple-hundred years! ;P Granted, that also applies to contemporary > Catholics also but only for the past, what, 30 years? Latin still "runs > in many Catholics' blood" and many of them still have Parochial School > Latin pulsing through their veins. > > > > =3D-> I've sent you a lead on the Dubois. <-=3D > > Thx, we have been in touch. > > > > =3D-> Did it turn out that you are a son or grandson of Bud Lester? = <-=3D > > No, that name does not ring a bell. There may be some remote relation > but Lester is actually a fairly common name and it crosses over several > ethnic groups. If I were related to all the other Lesters running loose > on the planet, I'd have to be a Black Jewish Irish British French = German! > > > ~ > C > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Merry Christmas From the Dentons From: "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 17:03:38 -0500   Wishing all of you a Very Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year.   May your pipe organs always work when intended, May your health woes be = ended and may you get back to work soon , and hopefully all your long lost = relatives turn up- at least on paper.   Nelson & Janine Denton and family R.A. Denton and Son Pipe Organ Builders since 1863 & a Fellow Genealogist   & Tracy Denton formerly from National Health Partners & now The Ontario March of Dimes.   And of course Little Marsha "The Dragonslayer"   Shredder (looking down from kitty heaven) who worked faithfully for 17 years as a security guard and quality control inspector for R. A. Denton & Son   and the rest of the Kitties. T'Pau Mickey Dusty Misty Joe.   ..      
(back) Subject: Re: the Jesuits From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:42:31 -0600   In response to Alan, Ron wrote, in part:   > You must also admit that paganism has returned to roost on the U.S of A.   I can't say whether Alan must admit it, but I don't. I do see lots of people who are attempting to impose their own narrow views on others in the name of "religion". Some of these seem to be some of the same people, who, in their desire to give the people a sense of safety, undermine the very freedoms which upon which our society is founded. .   > There are forces attempting to remove God from every facit of public > life. The end result, more crime, and evil.   More crime and evil, or more knowledge of the crime and evil that was there all along? I submit that if one goes back and examines the appropriate records, one will find that years ago, there was a fire which killed several children, which was most likely set by the mother or father, just as happens occasionally today. The biggest difference between then and now, is that except for the people in the closest communities to where the event occurred, no one knew about it happening. When the same type of event happens today, however, there is a worldwide satellite feed of the event within 90 minutes, with no way to discriminate between such an event which happens on the other side of the block, and one which happens on the other side of the world. The real cause of increased crime and violence, IMO, is those who use sex, crime and violence in the service of marketing and entertainment, and expect it to have no impact on behavior of those to whom whey are = marketing.   Further, if you focus on the crime and evil, how likely are you to see peace and goodwill? I, for one, am quite content that crime and violence is still a matter for the headlines and news bites; I'll start to worry when peace and good will are so rare as to make the headlines.   The real problem is really organs. In the thirties and forties, they were putting pipe organs in at least some schools; when is the last time you heard of that happening?   ns    
(back) Subject: Re: Gloria in excelsis deo"' St Johns Anglican Church Update" From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:49:17 -0400   here is a long awaited update to St Johns Anglican Church in Lunenburg = Nova Scotia I am very happy to see such advance in the rebuilding process Check it out A great Christmas Gift to see http://www.stjohnsrestoration.com/   Merry Christmas Daniel    
(back) Subject: Re: Gloria in excelsis deo From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:05:45 -0500   On 12/25/03 2:22 PM, "Charlie Lester" <crlester@137.com> wrote:   > I said, > > =3D-> being a LCMS Lutheran congregation, they will never go > for doing it in Latin. <-=3D > > Alan Freed said, > > =3D-> How do they deal with "Angels we have heard on high"? <-=3D > > Well, it's one thing to to three words in a refrain in Latin, when = everyone on > the planet practically knows what they mean -- another thing entirely to > present an hour-long cantata entirely in Latin!   Yes. Granted. Except for the word "entirely." It's not ENTIRELY different, but different only in quantity (a few seconds vs. "hour-long"). Which means (and I think we agree on this) that it's not a matter of "Thou shalt not use a Latin [or Hebrew or Greek] word or phrase, ever," but = "Thou shalt use (pretty much) only language (whichever one) that is understood = by (most) folks constituting the assembly. > > And just so I am clear, I meant that it's not the LATIN, > itself, per se, that they would balk at ---   Agreed, as indicated above.   > simply that being Lutheran there is no "tradition" for Latin music or = liturgy. > At least, not in the past couple-hundred years! ;P   I'm not sure about that. And since when did "tradition" begin in 1803? That was not a great time in Lutheran history (musically, liturgically, etc.). (Oh, I am being nasty and obstreperous, aren't I? Sorry. Let me try to modify.)   > Granted, that also applies to contemporary Catholics also but only for = the > past, what, 30 years? Latin still "runs in many Catholics' blood" and = many of > them still have Parochial School Latin pulsing through their veins. > I'm pleased to hear THAT. Mildly surprised, but pleased.   Anyway, even though we sing mostly modern English, but also some Spanish, some Latin, some Greek, and a few snippets of Elizabethan English and African languages at St. Luke's www.stlukesnyc.org I DO favor use of the language of at least most of the folks present. Our choir does Latin and German (and even Old Slavonic) now and then--but there's always a translation in the bulletin. Just as when LCMS folks go to the opera, = they get a translation in a "sur-title" on the back of the seat in front of = them, or on a screen above the proscenium, or at LEAST in a bilingual libretto = one buys in the lobby (or brings from home).   Anyway, I'm tired as heck tonight, and I'll bet you are even more so. So, more later, at our mutual convenience. Much enjoying our chat. I'll try = to be nicer!   >> Did it turn out that you are a son or grandson of Bud Lester? > > No, that name does not ring a bell. There may be some remote > relation but Lester is actually a fairly common name and it > crosses over several ethnic groups. If I were related to all > the other Lesters running loose on the planet, I'd have to > be a Black Jewish Irish British French German! > OK, no sweat. Just a wild possibility. But not as wild as it may seem, = as he is/was a Lutheran from, I think, Oregon or California. (But possibly Alaska; I don't remember.) But "sort of" in your neck of the woods.   Alan      
(back) Subject: CHRISTMAS MUSIC AT HOLY ROSARY, MEMPHIS From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 00:39:19 EST   CHRISTMAS MUSIC AT HOLY ROSARY CATHOLIC CHURCH Memphis, Tennessee   The Rev. Fr. Bryan Timby, Pastor The Rev. Fr. Gabriel DiFederico, Associate Pastor The Rev. Fr. Daniel Shanahan, Assisting Priest The Rev. Msgr. Odell Heymer, In Residence   Scott F. Foppiano, Organist-Choirmaster and Director of Liturgy Hunter McClure and Patrick Moerman, trumpets Anton Swistak and Jim Charbonnet, trombones Girik Desai, tympani   *services featuring the full Parish Choir, brass quartet, tympani and = organ   WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 24: Christmas Eve   4:00 PM Children's Liturgy Music led by the St. Nicholas Children's Choir Traditional Carols   7:00 PM Liturgy Music led by the St. Gregory Schola Boychoir and St. Cecilia Girls Choir Traditional Carols Anthem: Tollite Hostias     11:00 PM Service of Lessons and Carols* (prayers and readings from the King's College Service. Music listings = only here):   Carol: Once in Royal David's City   The Bidding Prayer and The Lord's Prayer   Lesson 1: God tells sinful Adam that he has lost the life of Paradise and =   that his seed shall bruise the serpent's head Anthem: Adam Lay Ybounden - Boris Ord   Lesson 2: God promises to faithful Abraham that in his seed all the = nations of the earth shall be blessed Carol: Canticle of Zachary   Lesson 3: The Prophet Foretells the Coming of the Savior Anthem: And the Glory of the Lord - G.F. Handel (from "Messiah")   Lesson 4: The peace that Christ will bring is foreshown Anthem: All Poor Men and Humble - Caradog Roberts   Lesson 5: The Angel Gabriel salutes the Blessed Virgin Mary Motet: Ave Maria - Jacob Arcadelt   Lesson 6: St. Luke tells of the birth of Jesus Carol: O Little Town of Bethlehem   Lesson 7: The shepherds go to the manger Anthem: Shepherd's Pipe Carol - John Rutter   Lesson 8: The Wise Men are led by the Star to Jesus Carol: We Three Kings   Lesson 9: St. John unfolds the great mystery of the Incarnation Carol: The First Nowell   The Collect for Christmas Eve and The Blessing   11:55 PM Handbell Fanfare: Carol of the Bells - Leontovich, Arr: Douglas E. = Wagner   12:00 AM: The Solemn Mass at Midnight* Introit: Puer Natus Est Nobis (Tone VII) sung by the gentlemen of the = Choir   Processional: O Come, All Ye Faithful   Kyrie (chant) Gloria in Excelsis   Responsorial Psalm: Antiphon: Plainchant Verses: Sir John Stainer in G (Anglican Chant)   Gospel Procession and Acclamation: Celtic Alleluia by Fintan O'Carroll   Offertory Anthem: Candlelight Carol - John Rutter   Sanctus Memorial Acclamation Great Amen Agnus Dei "Community Mass" by Richard Proulx   Carol at Communion: Away in a Manger - Mueller Motet: Lo, How a Rose E'er Blooming - Praetorius Carol: Silent Night, Holy Night - Stille Nacht   Recessional: Hark! The Herald Angels Sing Organ Voluntary: Tollite Hostias       THURSDAY, DECEMBER 25: Christmas Day   Masses at 8:00* and 10:00 AM*   Organ Voluntary: Greensleeves - Ralph Vaughan Williams Introit (10:00): Puer Natus Est (Tone VII) sung by the gentlemen of the choir   Processional: O Come, All Ye Faithful   Kyrie (chant) Gloria in Excelsis   Responsorial Psalm: Antiphon: Plainchant Verses: Sir John Stainer in G (Anglican Chant)   Gospel Procession and Acclamation: Celtic Alleluia by Fintan O'Carroll   Offertory Anthem: Shepherd's Pipe Carol - John Rutter   Sanctus Memorial Acclamation Great Amen Agnus Dei "Community Mass" by Richard Proulx   Carol at Communion: Away in a Manger - Mueller Anthem: Candlelight Carol - John Rutter   Recessional: The First Nowell   Organ Voluntary: Tollite Hostias       Scott F. Foppiano Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.