PipeChat Digest #4175 - Saturday, December 27, 2003
 
Yes - it WAS a happy Christmas
  by "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
Re: Fwd: WANAMAKER ORGAN AND PETER JENNINGS, WORLD NEWS TONIGHT
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: CHRISTMAS MUSIC AT HOLY ROSARY, MEMPHIS
  by <Icedad@aol.com>
Re: CHRISTMAS MUSIC AT HOLY ROSARY, MEMPHIS
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Check out Merry Christmas
  by <Icedad@aol.com>
Re: CHRISTMAS MUSIC AT HOLY ROSARY, MEMPHIS
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
EDUCATION (or LACK of it)
  by "Charlie Lester" <crlester@137.com>
Re: CHRISTMAS MUSIC AT HOLY ROSARY, MEMPHIS
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
EMCATOS - Pipe Organ Pops Announcement
  by "Len Beyersdorfer, MARATHON Digital Publishing" <LenB@MDigital
RE: A Christmas wish
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net>
Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS!
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS!
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Merry Christmas???
  by "D Quentin Bellamy" <dqb@boltblue.com>
Sowerby Suite
  by "atal" <atal@sympatico.ca>
RE: Sowerby Suite
  by "Jon Kroepel" <kroepel@uiuc.edu>
Re: Sowerby Suite and copyright laws
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
RE: Sowerby Suite and copyright laws
  by "Jon Kroepel" <kroepel@uiuc.edu>
RE: Sowerby Suite and copyright laws
  by "Jon Kroepel" <kroepel@uiuc.edu>
(no subject)
  by "Jon Kroepel" <kroepel@uiuc.edu>
RE:
  by "Jon Kroepel" <kroepel@uiuc.edu>
copyright laws
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
 

(back) Subject: Yes - it WAS a happy Christmas From: "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:30:34 -0000   Yes - it WAS a happy Christmas, Dear Pipechatters.   The church was FULL for all three Christmas services; the donkey behaved itself (at both ends) during the Nativity play; no-one turned-up drunk during the Midnight Mass; the lights in the crib remained on (rather than fusing as in years past); the wax from the candles missed the straw in the manger during the genuflexions; no bats shot towards the ceiling when 'pulling-out all the stops' (see other threads); the choir ate the tin of sweets I placed in the Vestry (rather than throwing them at each other - = and YES, I know they're an adult choir .... but then again, I KNOW what = they're like !); the Rector's sermon made sense (I know it usually does, but this year I somehow had the time to listen to it); and I've got the time to = plan ahead for the Bishop's visit in January (and am composing Introit and = Anthem for that occasion).   So ............... what went wrong that I don't know about ............ ?   Hope that all your Christmass'es were Happy ones !   Harry [musicman] Grove    
(back) Subject: Re: Fwd: WANAMAKER ORGAN AND PETER JENNINGS, WORLD NEWS TONIGHT From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 06:33:38 -0600   At 08:41 PM 12/23/03, you wrote:   >i received the following and am passing it on > >David > >> >>> >>>Official information has been received from the producer for Peter >>>Jennings World News Tonight, which, on the East coast, is on the ABC >>>network, at 6:30 PM to 7 PM Eastern Standard Time for the showing on >>>CHRISTMAS EVE of their recent visits to the Wanamaker Organ and Light >>>Show at Lord & Taylor in the Wanamaker Building in Philadelphia. >>> >>> this will be on a National Broadcast including shots and sounds of = the >>> Wanamaker Organ and Light Show.   If you missed this....as I did with a previous commitment with our bell choir...it is available on the net from ABC NEWS...the clip is called "Making Music-ABCNEWS.com" It is a very good piece on the organ and did not suffer much in the editing suite. It runs 2.08 minutes which is an unusual time commitment for this type of soft news story...It is a Merry Christmas from ABC NEWS   Jon        
(back) Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS MUSIC AT HOLY ROSARY, MEMPHIS From: <Icedad@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:58:01 EST   Scott,   Christmas Greetings!!   A very fine Christmas Program. I am happy to see that another Director of =   Liturgy and Music in a Catholic Church position besides myself can offer marvelous Liturgy and splendid music. The best to you in the New Year.   Sincerely,   Daniel Weimer Our Lady of Hope Catholic Church Port Orange, Fl    
(back) Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS MUSIC AT HOLY ROSARY, MEMPHIS From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 10:24:35 EST   Thank you for your very kind words. I would do nothing but excellence in music programming (DESPITE Vatican II haha)   Scott F. Foppiano Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.    
(back) Subject: Check out Merry Christmas From: <Icedad@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 11:02:49 EST   Click here: Merry Christmas    
(back) Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS MUSIC AT HOLY ROSARY, MEMPHIS From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:05:17 EST   Scott, Absolutely lovely! It's nice to see some RC musicians resisting the urge = to interpret the liturgy documents of Vatican II in a way which rejects what = is beautiful (both ancient and modern) and insults the intelligence and taste = of the congregation. As a former RC musician myself, I applaud you! Do I see = a little Anglo-Catholic/Sarum Rite influence here, or am I just biased? ;)   Pax, Bill H. St. John's, Bowdoin St., Boston    
(back) Subject: EDUCATION (or LACK of it) From: "Charlie Lester" <crlester@137.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 09:54:43 -0800   As far as I'M concerned, acceptance of the use or non-use of Latin has to do with EDUCATION (or LACK of it), rather than churchmanship OR belief ...   Well, that well may be. Particularly since, in most cases, children in school contemplating which "furren" language to take up, will most likely choose one that will actually be of some practical use -- e.g., in this country's very rapid evolution into a bilingual culture -- Spanish.   [school student speaking here] "Who the heck has time to learn a language that has been dead for centuries, other than linguistics scholars and historians?"   Sad fact is that, along with GOOD music (e.g., other than filth-laden rap and the garbage they hear on TV), children are no longer exposed to the arts, humanities and other educational "graces" as they were even in my generation (Baby Boomer).   So, for people to balk at hearing Latin in a church concert for the reason you state makes total sense to me. But I still say it also has to do with culture & heritage. You'd be more likely to pull off a "historically informed" Latin-language concert in a Catholic or Anglican church than in a Southern Baptist or Pentecostal church.   I suppose this is probably off-topic, so I'll leave it at that.   ~ C    
(back) Subject: Re: CHRISTMAS MUSIC AT HOLY ROSARY, MEMPHIS From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:41:57 EST   In a message dated 12/26/03 11:05:55 AM Central Standard Time, DERREINETOR@aol.com writes:   > Absolutely lovely!   Why thank you!     It's nice to see some RC musicians resisting the urge to interpret the liturgy > documents of Vatican II in a way which rejects what is beautiful (both > ancient and modern) and insults the intelligence and taste of the = congregation.   Most definitely. Why do trashy music with GEE-tars and continue to pump money into the pockets of Marty Haugen and David Hass when there is such a =   treasure trove of repertoire which the Vatican itself even acknowledges = and mandates be used and taught??? I believe the actual words are something like = "fostered with great care..."     As a former RC musician myself, I applaud you! Do I see   Oh, absolutely! hehe   Scott F. Foppiano Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.    
(back) Subject: EMCATOS - Pipe Organ Pops Announcement From: "Len Beyersdorfer, MARATHON Digital Publishing" <LenB@MDigital.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 15:14:40 -0500     This is an EMCATOS - Pipe Organ Pops announcement.   We hope that you are in the midst of a Joyous Holiday Season!   If you are ready for some Theatre Pipe Organ music, here are some events coming up in the very near future that may tickle your fancy. Advance sale tickets are now available.   ***************************************************************************= ************************   Ron Reseigh at the Mighty EMCATOS 4/18 Wurlitzer   Saturday. January 3, 2004, 7:30 PM Knight Auditorium, Babson College, Wellesley, MA   Tickets:   Advance sale: $10.00 (Please see below for ordering information.)   At the door: General Admission: $14.00 Seniors & Students: $12.00 Children 12 and under: Free   ***************************************************************************= ************************   Dave Wickerham at the Mighty EMCATOS 4/18 Wurlitzer   Saturday, February 28, 2004. 7:30 PM Knight Auditorium, Babson College, Wellesley, MA   Tickets:   Advance sale: $10.00 (Please see below for ordering information.)   At the door: General Admission: $14.00 Seniors & Students: $12.00 Children 12 and under: Free   ***************************************************************************= ************************   Dave Wickerham at the Mighty Shanklin Music Hall 4/34 Wurlitzer   Sunday, February 29, 2004. 2:30 PM Shanklin Music Hall, Groton, MA   Tickets are available by Advance Sale Only @ $20.00. (Please see below for ordering information.)   ***************************************************************************= ************************   Note: If you suspect that a concert may be cancelled or rescheduled due to the weather, please call 781-272-5148 for information.   ***************************************************************************= ************************   Advance Sale Ticket Ordering   Tickets for the above events are now available and may be ordered by sending a self-addressed stamped envelope, your name, address and phone number, a list of the tickets you wish to order *, and your check made = payable to "Pipe Organ Pops" to:   Pipe Organ Pops 8 Skyline Drive Billerica, MA 01821-1117   * Ron Reseigh at Babson College, 1/3/04 @ $10.00 * Dave Wickerham at Babson College, 2/28/04 @ $10.00 * Dave Wickerham at the Shanklin Music Hall, 2/29/04 @ $20.00   If you have any questions, please e-mail Tickets@EMCATOS.com or call 978-670-1269. Ticket orders that arrive late or do not include a self-addressed stamped envelope will be held at the door.   ***************************************************************************= ************************   Thank you.     -------------------------------------------------- Len Beyersdorfer LenB@MDigital.com MARATHON Digital Publishing Marlboro, Massachusetts 508-460-6172 --------------------------------------------------  
(back) Subject: RE: A Christmas wish From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 14:32:53 -0600   fifty four C is more than barmy! - Infernal is more like it.   michael     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Mark Turnbull Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 11:32 PM To: PipeChat Subject: RE: A Christmas wish     And a merry christmas from the windy north-east of england. Temperatures are 54 c which makes it slightly barmy. I don't contribute much to the list throughout the year, but enjoy, lurking in the loft and reading what others say. It is just after 0530 a.m and I am off to present a four hour radio programme on bbc local adio which will end in a good old fashioned carol service. (beats working for a living), Mark turnbull     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Hopkins Sent: 25 December 2003 04:45 To: PipeChat Subject: Re: A Christmas wish     Merry Christmas to everyone on thsi list, From Daniel in Nova Scotia , may not be a white Christmas here, but it sure is starting as a Wet Christmas   Hope everyone has a Joyous Day   Daniel   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org       BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/   This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS! From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 12:57:51 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   We no longer "DO" Midnight Mass.....it's at a rather less than meaningful 7.30pm these days!   I do miss the old Midnight Mass, which was always packed to the doors, but it was a bit of an ordeal; usually finishing at about 2am.   Just time for a quick nap, a few mince pies and then back for the 9am and 11am. It seems more leisurely these days.   Sadly, there is so much drunkeness on the streets, which often results in "incidents". I can well understand why the change was made, when many of the parishioners are elderly and the public transport grinds to a halt at 8pm.   On the plus side, I do get to watch Midnight Mass on the TV.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK         --- Stephen Barker <steve@sbarker.net> wrote: > Were you not out playing for Midnight Mass Colin?! > Some of us have only > just got in   __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: HAPPY CHRISTMAS! From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 13:20:59 -0800   Midnight Mass is gone/went/departed in Southern California, and I'm sorry to say that it's mostly because of the high number of drunken drivers on the freeways, and the high crime rate after dark, even in wealthy areas like Newport Beach. Christmas Eve is prime time for house burglars and car thefts. The few churches that DO have Midnight Mass have armed security guards patrolling the church parking lots.   Our elderly parishioners at St. Matthew's simply refused to leave their homes after dark for any reason, even if they still had a car and a valid driver's license.   I never cared for Midnight Mass because in the RC churches where I played in the 1960s and 1970s, one had the MIDNIGHT Mass at midnight, followed by the SHEPHERDS' Mass at 2 a.m. (the "overflow" / "drunks'" Mass) and THEN the usual 7:30-9-10:30-noon-8 p.m. Sunday schedule, which was enough to kill a HEALTHY person.   The priests still each sang a High Mass at the High Altar, and then said two Low Masses apiece at the side altars, but the ORGANIST sang/played EVERYTHING, except for midnight and noon ... those WERE with the choir.   In my latter years, I decided that driving myself to exhaustion was NOT an appropriate way to celebrate the feast of Christ's Incarnation. When St. Matthew's scheduled FOUR Solemn Masses on Christmas Eve, I said, "that's nice ... who's playing the organ and singing for the other two? I'M not. FOUR priests and ONE organist does NOT strike me as an equitable distribution of the work-load."   Of course I got fired shortly thereafter, but it was worth it (grin).   Cheers,   Bud       Colin Mitchell wrote:   > Hello, > > We no longer "DO" Midnight Mass.....it's at a rather > less than meaningful 7.30pm these days! > > I do miss the old Midnight Mass, which was always > packed to the doors, but it was a bit of an ordeal; > usually finishing at about 2am. > > Just time for a quick nap, a few mince pies and then > back for the 9am and 11am. It seems more leisurely > these days. > > Sadly, there is so much drunkeness on the streets, > which often results in "incidents". I can well > understand why the change was made, when many of the > parishioners are elderly and the public transport > grinds to a halt at 8pm. > > On the plus side, I do get to watch Midnight Mass on > the TV. > > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK > > > > > --- Stephen Barker <steve@sbarker.net> wrote: > >>Were you not out playing for Midnight Mass Colin?! >>Some of us have only >>just got in > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Merry Christmas??? From: "D Quentin Bellamy" <dqb@boltblue.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:50:55 -0000   So you have Christmas in America too???   Q (with a wicked grin.....)     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.555 / Virus Database: 347 - Release Date: 23/12/2003  
(back) Subject: Sowerby Suite From: "atal" <atal@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:25:32 -0500   I am looking for a copy of the Sowerby Suite (1935). Does anybody know if = it is still in print? I need it faaast... Thanks in advance,   Andreas Thiel atal@sympatico.ca    
(back) Subject: RE: Sowerby Suite From: "Jon Kroepel" <kroepel@uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:59:15 -0600   I have a copy of the Suite. It was published by H. W. Gray in Sowerby's collected Organ works, but I am unsure if it is still in print. If it's not, I can send it to you over email.     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of atal Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 9:26 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Sowerby Suite   I am looking for a copy of the Sowerby Suite (1935). Does anybody know if it is still in print? I need it faaast... Thanks in advance,   Andreas Thiel atal@sympatico.ca   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Sowerby Suite and copyright laws From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 20:10:17 -0800   Um, I hate to be the one to point it out, but "out of print" does NOT mean "out of copyright." I'd be VERY careful about offering illegal copies of copyrighted music in an open chat room ... publishers DO prosecute the most egregious violators. If you contact whoever owns the HW Gray catalog at this point, they PROBABLY would give permission to reprint it at a FEE.   Cheers,   Bud   Jon Kroepel wrote:   > I have a copy of the Suite. It was published by H. W. Gray in Sowerby's > collected Organ works, but I am unsure if it is still in print. If it's > not, I can send it to you over email. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > atal > Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 9:26 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Sowerby Suite > > I am looking for a copy of the Sowerby Suite (1935). Does anybody know > if it > is still in print? I need it faaast... > Thanks in advance, > > Andreas Thiel > atal@sympatico.ca > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: RE: Sowerby Suite and copyright laws From: "Jon Kroepel" <kroepel@uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:19:47 -0600   Thank You, Bud for bringing this to my attention. I have misinformed about the copyright laws.   Thank you again.   Happy Holidays!   Jon Kroepel   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of quilisma@cox.net Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 10:10 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Sowerby Suite and copyright laws   Um, I hate to be the one to point it out, but "out of print" does NOT mean "out of copyright." I'd be VERY careful about offering illegal copies of copyrighted music in an open chat room ... publishers DO prosecute the most egregious violators. If you contact whoever owns the HW Gray catalog at this point, they PROBABLY would give permission to reprint it at a FEE.   Cheers,   Bud   Jon Kroepel wrote:   > I have a copy of the Suite. It was published by H. W. Gray in Sowerby's > collected Organ works, but I am unsure if it is still in print. If it's > not, I can send it to you over email. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > atal > Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 9:26 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Sowerby Suite > > I am looking for a copy of the Sowerby Suite (1935). Does anybody know > if it > is still in print? I need it faaast... > Thanks in advance, > > Andreas Thiel > atal@sympatico.ca > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: RE: Sowerby Suite and copyright laws From: "Jon Kroepel" <kroepel@uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:43:14 -0600   Thank you once again everybody for pointing out how stupid offering out of print music. Now that I know that it is against the law, I know better not to copy music without the publishers permission (not that I have ever done this before).   How long are things covered by copyright? I am just wondering for things like hymns and stuff.   Jon Kroepel      
(back) Subject: From: "Jon Kroepel" <kroepel@uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:44:41 -0600   I emailed the person requesting the Suite that they had better contact H.W. Gray.   Jon    
(back) Subject: RE: From: "Jon Kroepel" <kroepel@uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:48:17 -0600   Oh, when will I learn how to use Outlook?   Better go to bed so I can practice again tomorrow.   Jon Kroepel    
(back) Subject: copyright laws From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:10:11 -0800   American copyright laws are insufferably complex; and a recent court decision in favor of Walt Disney almost ENSURES that a great many worthy works will be lost. Someone who followed that case more closely than I can explain it, but basically it extended the copyright even LONGER.   And American copyright length varies according to when a work was published. I think currently in practice it amounts to the composer's life + 100 years.   Unlike Britain, which has three or four obligatory depositories of record, we only have the Library of Congress. Ever tried to get a copy of a copyrighted work from THEM?   "Oh, we have it in the catalog, but it's probably still in a box in the basement ... we're only 30 years behind filing deposited copies of = record."   So much for the Library of Congress.   I have a FEELING that when software reaches the point that it can ACCURATELY scan a score into Finale or Sibelius, the whole thing is going to be knocked into a cocked hat.   Hypothetically, if I scan one of the Bach Yale chorale preludes into Sibelius, and make an edition of it for brass quintet, at what point does it cease to belong to Barenreiter and become my intellectual property? I have raised the pitched, added phrasing and dynamics, transposed the horn part, etc. etc. etc.   Music in the public domain already circulates freely on the Net.   Or what about this: Finale and Sibelius can readily extract orchestra parts from a piano-vocal score ... must permission be sought every time something is orchestrated?   There are already online music publishers who charge so much per page for the masters, which includes permission to make as many copies as you like. Printing and binding multiple scores that way IS a pain, but it's a HECK of a lot cheaper than OUP's prices these days (grin).   I"M excited about the notebook-size computerized choir folders. If they're networked, the conductor can make instant changes and corrections. Music can be inserted and deleted electronically, no muss, no fuss; there's no great rattling of paper as every singer turns the page in a quiet moment of a piece, etc.   Ravenna is introducing computerized music stands this summer ... be interesting to see how that works out.   Cheers,   Bud