PipeChat Digest #3421 - Saturday, February 1, 2003
 
Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test
  by "Robert Fox" <foxy@kbdnet.net.au>
Re: Weddings, Organists, or lack of!
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Space Shuttle Columbia has Exploded over Texas
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@optonline.net>
RE: Space Shuttle Columbia has Exploded over Texas
  by "Charles E. Brown" <chabrown@bellatlantic.net>
Re: Whitlock recordings (was: Whitlock's 2nd Fantasie Choral)
  by "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com>
Re: Weddings, Organists, or lack of!
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test
  by "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu>
Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Weddings, Organists, or lack of!
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
weddings and funerals, p.s.
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
responding to the Columbia disaster
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test
  by "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu>
Re: responding to the Columbia disaster
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
RE:  Whitlock's 2nd Fantasie Choral
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net>
Musical Change for Candlemas
  by "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonathan@jonathanbhall.com>
out-of-tune organs
  by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test From: "Robert Fox" <foxy@kbdnet.net.au> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 01:46:32 +1100   Hello List   Let me throw this one into the ring:-   What if the organ is not required?   Robert Fox Sydney  
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings, Organists, or lack of! From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 10:17:34 -0500   At 01:46 AM 2/2/03 +1100, Robert Fox wrote: >Hello List > >Let me throw this one into the ring:- > >What if the organ is not required?   Then you don't pay him!   You don't pay for something that you either do not need, or cannot afford. Not all weddings are as "posh" as people on this list seem to = think!   Just my tuppence worth!   Bob Conway    
(back) Subject: Space Shuttle Columbia has Exploded over Texas From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@optonline.net> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 10:23:45 -0500   Please send your prayers to the family and friends of the seven astronauts that were on the space Shuttle Columbia which apparently just exploded over Texas during re-entry into earth's atmosphere. This is a heartbreaking event.   Marika   -- Jungian Type: INTJ Wireless: 201 747 4219      
(back) Subject: RE: Space Shuttle Columbia has Exploded over Texas From: "Charles E. Brown" <chabrown@bellatlantic.net> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:28:34 -0500   Marika:   Yes. It is very sad and very tragic. These missions usually go so smoothly that we take them for granted and we are shocked when something does happen.   Our prayers should certainly be with these very brave men and women and their families.   Charles   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:24 AM To: Pipechat listserver Subject: Space Shuttle Columbia has Exploded over Texas   Please send your prayers to the family and friends of the seven astronauts that were on the space Shuttle Columbia which apparently just   exploded over Texas during re-entry into earth's atmosphere. This is a heartbreaking event.   Marika   -- Jungian Type: INTJ Wireless: 201 747 4219       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Whitlock recordings (was: Whitlock's 2nd Fantasie Choral) From: "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 08:25:08 -0800     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > I recently came across (on a recording) Whitlock's 2nd Fantasie Choral, = in F sharp minor - what a > wonderful and atmospheric piece - does anyone play it? I've ordered the music for it today.   As far as I know it was first recorded by Henry Hokans at All Saints, Worcester MA, on Volume 11 of the Aeolian-Skinner King of Instruments series. A very eloquent recording, in spite of a minor flub and reeds that couldn't be less English.   Whitlock is well served on record. Graham Barber has recorded the complete works on three Priory CDs at Hull City Hall, Hereford Cathedral, and Downside Abbey. All are quite commendable, but his GREAT recording is the earlier one of the Sonata in c minor at Coventry Cathedral (Vista VPS 1058 -- LP only), to my ears and taste one of the small handful of = greatest organ recordings ever, both for its sonics and musical worth. An = absolutely thrilling sound. (It's commonly complained that the last movement of the Sonata in particular goes on far too long, and perhaps that's true; but there are plenty of wonderful redeeming moments in it.)   Other good recordings of the Sonata are Roger Fisher at Lincoln Cathedral (Amphion PHI CD 153 -- an all-Whitlock recirtal recorded live!), Robert Gower at Selby Abbey, and Paul-Martin Maki at Heavenly Rest (JAV CD 114) = -- but particularly to be recommended is Maki's great "Elgar & Company" CD (Titanic TI-226), which includes the 2nd Fantasie Choral. It was recorded = on the untouched GDH Aeolian-Skinner of MacMurray College, an instrument that on the evidence of this record completely merits Robert Glasgow's = continuing advocacy. (It was his first job after leaving Eastman.)   Also of interest are Jennifer Bate's ASV CD (QS 6223), which includes the Plymouth Suite and the less-often-played Seven Sketches on Verses of the Psalms), and Robert Gower's old Wealden LP (WS 196) recorded on Whitlock's old Hill instrument at St. Stephen's, Bournemouth (although somewhat = rebuilt by Rushworth & Dreaper).   There is also a Priory CD of the choral music, which seems to me to be completely generic, with none of the individuality that comes through on just about every Whitlock organ piece.     Michael Fox    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings, Organists, or lack of! From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:43:25 -0500   On 2/1/03 10:17 AM, "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> wrote:   > At 01:46 AM 2/2/03 +1100, Robert Fox wrote: >> Hello List >> >> Let me throw this one into the ring:- >> >> What if the organ is not required? > > Then you don't pay him! > > You don't pay for something that you either do not need, or cannot > afford. Not all weddings are as "posh" as people on this list seem to = think! > True enough, Bob. I'd say that fully half of our weddings do not involve any musical instruments. And of course, no cost involved for what isn't happening. But, personally, I'd encourage the use of the organ for a = little bit of prelude, processional hymn, and a quick shot at the end, at minimal or no cost. After all, it IS a wedding. But, de gustibus.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test From: "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 09:14:09 -0700       Robert Fox wrote: > > Hello List > > Let me throw this one into the ring:- > > What if the organ is not required? > > Robert Fox > Sydney >   I had a Presbyterian pastor who insisted that I had to be paid even if the organ was not used.   Del W. Case Pacific Union College  
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 12:51:47 -0500   On 2/1/03 11:14 AM, "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> wrote:   > I had a Presbyterian pastor who insisted that I had to be > paid even if the organ was not used. > Fine, if he was paying the bill. Or the congregation was willing to pay = it. Otherwise . . . . well . . . .   Alan (Maybe he thought you'd be playing Cage's 4'33"--har har)    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings, Organists, or lack of! From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:53:03 EST     --part1_ac.37d03f9e.2b6d637f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 2/1/03 11:43:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, acfreed0904@earthlink.net writes:     > But, personally, I'd encourage the use of the organ for a little > bit of prelude, processional hymn, and a quick shot at the end, at = minimal > or no cost. After all, it IS a wedding. But, de gustibus.   I've always let the clergy know that I will play for weddings in which finances are a problem. Having been an organist all of my life I somehow =   understand the problem!     Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502     --part1_ac.37d03f9e.2b6d637f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 2/1/03 11:43:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, acfreed0904@earthlink.net = writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">But, personally, = I'd encourage the use of the organ for a little <BR>bit of prelude, processional hymn, and a quick shot at the end, at = minimal <BR>or no cost. &nbsp;After all, it IS a wedding. &nbsp;But, de = gustibus.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I've always let the clergy know that I will play for weddings in which = finances are a problem. &nbsp;&nbsp;Having been an organist all of my life = I somehow understand the problem! <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_ac.37d03f9e.2b6d637f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 09:59:20 -0800   If the request is to use recorded music, the answer is NO. We don't allow recorded music in the church for any reason, including (especially!) "accompaniment" CDs, tapes, etc.   The organ is the default instrument at St. Matthew's ... there IS a nice old console piano in the choir loft, since that's also our "choir room" .... I use it occasionally for pianistic anthem accompaniments in service.   I don't think it'd ever come up for us, but I'd say the same thing applies: if it's something that I would ALLOW on the piano, and I can PLAY it, then I play ... want somebody ELSE (for whatever reason)? pay the piper. If they wanted BIG piano literature that I CAN'T play, then I wouldn't charge the bench fee.   Whatever the OTHER music, the organ is ALWAYS required to accompany the singing of the Nuptial Mass, whether by congregation OR choir. Those musical selections are fixed ... the bride has a choice of Merbecke, Willan, Oldroyd, or plainsong ... all (except the plainsong, which can be sung unaccompanied if the choir is there) require the organ.   I DID have one wedding (not at St. Matthew's) where the bride had a friend who was an EXCELLENT pianist in a sort of New Age meditation style ... he played the prelude; I played the service.   If there's to be NO music WHATSOEVER (which I cannot IMAGINE at a WEDDING), then I wouldn't charge the bench fee.   Cheers,   Bud   Robert Fox wrote: > > Hello List > > Let me throw this one into the ring:- > > What if the organ is not required? > > Robert Fox > Sydney > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: weddings and funerals, p.s. From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 10:11:33 -0800   I have a "gentleman's agreement" with the Rector that in cases of real need (to be determined by him), I will play weddings and funerals at no cost to the family. In that case, I am paid my customary (minimum) fee out of the Rector's Discretionary Fund.   We had one LOVELY wedding of two Eastern European refugees ... the choir sang, I played, St. Mary's Guild put on a reception for them in the parish hall ... for nothing.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:13:44 EST     --part1_182.162b6c6b.2b6d6858_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 2/1/03 11:52:22 AM Central Standard Time, acfreed0904@earthlink.net writes:   > I had a Presbyterian pastor who insisted that I had to be > >paid even if the organ was not used. > > > Fine, if he was paying the bill. Or the congregation was willing to pay =   > it. > Otherwise . . . . well . . . .   Yeah- that one's even a little much for me!   Scott F. Foppiano, Austin, TX Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.   --part1_182.162b6c6b.2b6d6858_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 2/1/03 11:52:22 AM Central = Standard Time, acfreed0904@earthlink.net writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I had a = Presbyterian pastor who insisted that I had to be<BR> &gt;paid even if the organ was not used.<BR> &gt;<BR> Fine, if he was paying the bill.&nbsp; Or the congregation was willing to = pay it.<BR> Otherwise . . . . well . . . .</BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> Yeah- that one's even a little much for me!<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D4 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Monotype Corsiva" LANG=3D"0"><B>Scott = F. Foppiano</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: = #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></B>, = Austin, TX<BR> Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D"Monotype Corsiva" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_182.162b6c6b.2b6d6858_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:18:09 -0500   At 09:59 AM 2/1/03 -0800, Bud wrote:     >If there's to be NO music WHATSOEVER (which I cannot IMAGINE at a >WEDDING), then I wouldn't charge the bench fee. > >Cheers, > >Bud   Bud, et al,   I was married on Easter Sunday 1950, - no choir, no organ, a very simple service that was spoken through out. For two reasons, - we were unable to =   finance a posh "do", and the Organist and Choir had done their stuff in = the morning, and were not available for a 2.00 pm wedding!   There are occasions when everything in your favour is against you!   I still think that the cost of weddings today is much too high, not withstanding the current obsession for "posh" weddings!   Bob Conway    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 10:44:11 -0800       Bob Conway wrote: > > At 09:59 AM 2/1/03 -0800, Bud wrote: > > >If there's to be NO music WHATSOEVER (which I cannot IMAGINE at a > >WEDDING), then I wouldn't charge the bench fee. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Bud > > Bud, et al, > > I was married on Easter Sunday 1950, - no choir, no organ, a very simple > service that was spoken through out. For two reasons, - we were unable = to > finance a posh "do", and the Organist and Choir had done their stuff in = the > morning, and were not available for a 2.00 pm wedding! > > There are occasions when everything in your favour is against you! > > I still think that the cost of weddings today is much too high, not > withstanding the current obsession for "posh" weddings! > > Bob Conway >   Well, first of all, it would require a dispensation from the Almighty Himself to HAVE a wedding on Easter Day afternoon in our (Anglican Catholic) tradition ... I think the same would be true for the Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Anglicans, Episcopalians, and Lutherans ... unless it was an EXTREME emergency, such as the groom shipping out to war the next day, etc.   The celebration of Our Lord's Resurrection admits of absolutely NO other celebration WHATSOEVER ... indeed, weddings AND funerals are FORBIDDEN during the seven days of both Holy Week AND Easter Week ... if necessary, a GRAVESIDE Burial Office can be read during those times, but the Requiem Mass in CHURCH has to be deferred until Monday after Low Sunday. I suppose (though I've never known of it HAPPENING), the Marriage Office could be read privately in cases of REAL necessity during that period.   In our tradition, weddings are also forbidden during Advent and Lent, but dispensation can be sought (and is usually granted) from the Bishop.   As to the general COST of weddings, I totally agree. I would like to see them done MUCH MORE like we did that one wedding for the two refugees .... involve the whole parish family, and have the whole affair ... service AND reception ... at the CHURCH. Unfortunately, as we've discovered in the six months since we moved into our new building, our facilities are ALREADY *totally* inadequate to do that, unless we set up rented tents on the lawn, which, of course, involves an expense.   Unfortunately (in common with various graduation exercises) in the U.S. weddings have come to be regarded as the CULMINATION of something (the hunt for a mate), rather than the BEGINNING of something GREATER ... married life together. We are in a DISTINCT minority in holding that weddings are a RELIGIOUS occasion, and not "The Bride's Day" to show off how much money Daddy can spend, beg, borrow, or run up on his credit cards. We know we're swimming against the tide of popular culture, and we'll continue to do so, but in society at large it's a losing battle.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: responding to the Columbia disaster From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 10:51:57 -0800   Are any of you going to attempt to change the music for tomorrow? It's the Feast of the Purification for us, so we can't change the LITURGY, but I've asked the rector if we can change the recessional hymn to "Eternal Father, Strong To Save" (the version with "land, sea and air" in one of the verses); then I'll play a dirge, I suppose ... Dead March from Saul or "Requiem aeternam" by Titcomb. Or is that (the dirge) not appropriate because it's Sunday?   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Weddings: right of first refusal put to the test From: "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 10:55:39 -0700       Alan Freed wrote: > > On 2/1/03 11:14 AM, "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> wrote: > > > I had a Presbyterian pastor who insisted that I had to be > > paid even if the organ was not used. > > > Fine, if he was paying the bill. Or the congregation was willing to pay = it.     What I was paid was built in to what the church charged. This, by the = way, was in the Napa Valley and was a popular wedding church for people who came to the Valley to get married. Very few weddings there were for church members.   D. Case  
(back) Subject: Re: responding to the Columbia disaster From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:08:41 EST     --part1_1c2.45bda57.2b6d8349_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 2/1/03 1:47:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:     > I've asked the rector if we can change the recessional hymn to > "Eternal Father, Strong To Save" (the version with "land, sea and air" > in one of the verses); then I'll play a dirge, I suppose ... Dead March > from Saul or "Requiem aeternam" by Titcomb. Or is that (the dirge) not > appropriate because it's Sunday? >   I think the hymn change is appropriate, but I would ditch the dirge! = The people in the space program, as well as all of the military, are very = heroic and brave people who fly in the face of danger in almost everything they = do. Their passing is sad and tragic to those left behind, but they have gone = on to receive the ultimate reward for giving their lives in service to others =   and their heroism should be celebrated, not dirgified! Try:   Piece Heroique - Franck Carillon Sortie - Mulet Toccata - Gigout Now Thank We All Our God - Bach/Fox   or a stunning improvisation in their honor... after all, these people = are one-of-a-kind!   Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502     --part1_1c2.45bda57.2b6d8349_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 2/1/03 1:47:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I've asked the = rector if we can change the recessional hymn to <BR>"Eternal Father, Strong To Save" (the version with "land, sea and air" <BR>in one of the verses); then I'll play a dirge, I suppose ... Dead = March <BR>from Saul or "Requiem aeternam" by Titcomb. Or is that (the dirge) not <BR>appropriate because it's Sunday? <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>I think the hymn change is appropriate, but I would ditch the dirge! = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The people in the space program, as well as all of the = military, are very heroic and brave people who fly in the face of danger = in almost everything they do. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Their passing is sad and = tragic to those left behind, but they have gone on to receive the ultimate = reward for giving their lives in service to others and their heroism = should be celebrated, not dirgified! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Try: <BR> <BR>Piece Heroique - Franck <BR>Carillon Sortie - Mulet <BR>Toccata - Gigout <BR>Now Thank We All Our God - Bach/Fox <BR> <BR>or a stunning improvisation in their honor... &nbsp;&nbsp;after all, = these people are one-of-a-kind! <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_1c2.45bda57.2b6d8349_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: Whitlock's 2nd Fantasie Choral From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:57:26 -0600     I first heard it many moons ago on one of the Aeolian Skinner LPs - Henry Hokans at All Saints Worcester. It blew me away then and it still does. = I finally worked it up several years ago to play on a choir residency at Norwich Cathedral but I couldn't figure out an appropriate time to play it = - not quite the thing for a prelude for evensong.   Great piece!   Michael     > >Subject: Whitlock's 2nd Fantasie Choral >From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> >Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:21:05 -0000 > >Following the encouragement to discuss repertoire.... > >I recently came across (on a recording) Whitlock's 2nd Fantasie Choral, = in F sharp minor - what a >onderful and atmospheric piece - does anyone play it? I've ordered the music for it today. >      
(back) Subject: Musical Change for Candlemas From: "Jonathan B. Hall" <jonathan@jonathanbhall.com> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:19:11 -0800 (PST)   Hi, List--   In light of the terrible tragedy earlier today, I plan to change the opening hymn for our Candle-Mass/Purification/Presentation Mass tomorrow. We shall now sing number 579 in the Hymnal 1982, "Almighty Father, strong to save."   First introduced into the Episcopal tradition in 1940, and carefully retained in the new authorized hymnal, this hymn is sung to the tune "Melita" by John Bacchus Dykes (1823-1876)--the same tune as the somewhat more familiar Navy Hymn "Eternal Father, Strong to Save, whose arm hath bound the restless wave..."   The 1940 text includes air travel, and the third verse made me cry this morning:   O Spirit, whom the Father sent to spread abroad the firmament; O Wind of heaven, by thy might save all who dare the eagle's flight, and keep them by thy watchful care from every peril in the air.   This verse, building on the first words of Genesis, is not a bad prayer for all of us right now--though I've also presumed to recite the Kaddish for the lost Israeli.   Bill, my partner, did the flowers for Mass tomorrow, and besides two large vases in pure white, he's placed seven red roses, with some baby's breath, at the center of the high altar under the Cross.   --Jon  
(back) Subject: out-of-tune organs From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 22:48:37 -0000   Just back from an evening accompanying a male voice choir in a concert = here in Cumbria. The concert was in a large church that is home to a beefy 3-manual Norman & Beard - = the church was packed.   Anyway, on drawing a stop or two at the organ, I realised that all was far = from well. Everything was horrendously out of tune - I've still got a headache from the screaming = mixture and the foul heavy- pressure bombarde reeds. I was fuming that it hadn't been tuned for such a = big concert - it was really awful - not just the reeds - everything needed a thorough going over. It = was atrocious.   At the end of the concert my ears were in pain, but everyone came up to me = "Oh what a wonderful sound" "Oh we could feel the organ through the seats" "That was = magnificent!"   Eh? Could they not hear it?   I phoned the organist of the church a minute ago to express my = disappointment at how out-of-tune it was - the response - "Oh, was it?"   Do you think that some musicians can't tell when an organ needs tuned?   I moved down here from Edinburgh about 18 months ago and became organist = at a very fine 2-manual Harrison & Harrison instrument, designed by both Hollins and the legendary = Col George Dixon. However, the tuning was foul - I called the tuner out - things were worse! = Got rid of him and got a tuner I knew from over in Newcastle to come across - he spent a whole day setting = the intervals properly and going over it with a fine-tooth comb, so to speak. That evening I stayed = in the church till about 1am playing and playing and playing - it sounded wonderful - everything = blended - under all that foul tuning lurked a fabulous instrument. I gave a recital shortly afterwards at which = many local organists commented "we'd no idea it was such a fine instrument".   I'm sure the one I played tonight could be v. good too if it was tuned = properly - it's such a shame that a) people are paid for such poor tuning and b) that organists and others = can't even tell that it needs it!   Yours frustratedly with a thumping headache from screaming mixtures....   Andrew Caskie