PipeChat Digest #3422 - Sunday, February 2, 2003
 
Re: Introducing The Scholarly Organist Group x-post
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Weddings & Fees
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Czech composers
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
verses for outer space (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: Weddings  - Right of First Refusal
  by "Larry Wheelock" <llwheels@mac.com>
Re: Musical Change for Candlemas
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Musical Change for Candlemas
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Music for 2/2/2003
  by "Carol Scott" <dclscott@skyenet.net>
Re: Music for 2/2/2003
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
Re: Musical Change for Candlemas
  by "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net>
Re: Musical Change for Candlemas
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Introducing The Scholarly Organist Group x-post From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 23:46:03 +0000 (GMT)   Hello,   I quite agree with Jonathan Orwig concerning unknown "gems" of the organ literature, which range from simple manuals only writing to complex, big-scale works.   Going to recitals often reveals the "stick in the mud" attitude of many organists.....a constant repertory of French Romantic/Bach and the two big Mozart works.   Almost always, anything else is a "fill in" for the main courses described above.   When I perform recitals (not very often...but always carefully selected and prepared), I try to include works which are of very high quality which do not fall into the mainstream repertoire....hence my recent mention of works by Jiri Ropek, Glasunow, Jackson, Hindemith, Fricker, Kodaly etc etc.   Reger is very much "out of fashion" in the UK, and yet, it was the music of Reger which totally thrilled me as a 15 year old.....especially when performed by Fernando Germani on a recital tour in the UK, or by Melville Cook. Schroeder also interested me at that age.   Of course I love the war-horses of the repertoire, but without exposure to the great and the good beyond France, we are impoverished.   To-day, I dragged out a copy of "Victim Paschale" by Jiri Ropek........after 20 years of ownership!! I have never bothered to learn it, but as my interest in Central European music grows, I realise that I am quite ignorant of much that is extremely worthy. With only a modest amount of time available for practice, I shall make it a priority.   We have been chatting about contemporary music in recent days and weeks, and looking at much that is available, I realise that French Impressionism is still the dominant force.........why?   Everyone likes a good tune and daring, often mysterious harmonies such as those which sprang from the pens of Durufle and Tournemire. (Especially the latter!) Alain is still thrilling, and Dupre can be awesome, spell-binding and sometimes disturbing.   However, I suspect that the "French era" has now passed, and I, for one, enjoy looking at works which have at their root the more considered modality and contrapuntal complexity of works from other countries and traditions.   Although I improvise a great deal, I simply have not the time to sit down and compose. This I am leaving until my old age. However, something inside me....call it instinct.....suggests to me that contemporary composers could well look towards the lesser known works as a guide. There is, within the modern (rather than contemporary) repertoire, a whole language which awaits discovery by the serious student of composition.   The way forward may yet be contrapuntal!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK                 --- Jonathan Orwig <giwro@earthlink.net> wrote: > And EYE am one of those who is "hooked" like Bob > is..... > > I am always looking for something that I don't have, > always > willing to take a chance and learn/order/play > something different. >       __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Weddings & Fees From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 18:09:49 -0600   And as a clergyman, I can tell you that quite a few of the couples who = have pled extreme financial problems with me, and therefore got a reduced fee = (or free services), led me to feel a bit stiffed when I saw nicely catered receptions with DJs and the like.   In general, though, I have found, for both weddings and funerals, the largest honorariums come from working people who clearly understand "you = get what you pay for." The wealthy are the ones that tend to be stingy.   In fact, there are studies that show that charitable giving is greater by middle class people than by wealthy people--and I don't mean by percentage of income, but actual dollar amount!   Dennis Steckley    
(back) Subject: Czech composers From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:20:09 +0000 (GMT)   Hello,   I have been digging around the net and came up with some interesting names.   I have not been able to totally verify the country of origin of the following, but I think that they are all Czech.   The names below are just a fraction of a fairly extensive tradition and repertoire.   Peter Eben (we mentioned this previously) Jiri Ropek (Similarly)   Dvorak (Prelude & Fugues....anyone know them?)   Brixi Frantisek Xaver (Organ concertos)   Leos Janacek (Glaglotic Mass/Chorale Fantasia/2 compositions for organ)   Josef Ferdinad Seger ??   Jan Vadio Stamitz ??   Alois Haba ??   Miloslav Kabelac ??   Jan Kritilet Josef ??   Jan Zach (Prelude & Fugue)   How little we know!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   The organ solo from the Glagolitic Mass is horrendously difficult apparently.       __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: verses for outer space (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:27:01 -0800   Jim Lampert fished the following additional verses for "Eternal Father" from the CyberHymnal and posted them on piporg-1:   Tune: Melita   Lord, guard and guide the men who fly Though the great spaces in the sky. Be with them always in the air, In darkening storms or sunlight fair; Oh, hear us when we lift our prayer, For those in peril in the air!   Aloft in solitudes of space, Uphold them with Thy saving grace. Thou Who supports with tender might The balanced birds in all their flight. Lord, if the tempered winds be near, That, having Thee, they know no fear. --from The Cyber Hymnal, http://http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/e/t/eternalf.htm   In Memory of the Columbia Seven: Rick Husband William McCool Michael Anderson David Brown Kalpana Chawla Laurel Clark Ilan Ramon February 1, 2003   _________________________________________________________   I'd change "the men" to "all those", and "balanced" to "soaring"; I can't quite puzzle out the grammar of the last two lines; maybe somebody else can.   Bud    
(back) Subject: RE: Weddings - Right of First Refusal From: "Larry Wheelock" <llwheels@mac.com> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:10:04 -0600     --Apple-Mail-4--730988085 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed   Below I quote Rule 4 of the Code of Ethics of the American Guild of=3D20 Organists.   =3DA0<<=3DA0Before accepting an engagement for a wedding, funeral, or = other=3D20=3D   service, members shall obtain the approval of the incumbent musician.=3D20 In cases where this engagement has been requested by a third party, = it=3D20=3D   is appropriate for the third party to offer the incumbent his/her=3D20 customary fee. It is the responsibility of members to inform the = third=3D20=3D   party of this rule. >>   While not all organists are members of the Guild, the fact that the = AGO=3D20=3D   considers this appropriate to address with national guidelines makes = it=3D20=3D   clear that requesting permission and receiving payment in such a=3D20 situation is not at all out of the mainstream but, rather, the=3D20 customary practice. Every church staff/personnel committee should be=3D20 made immediately aware of this. This is the norm. Period.   Larry Wheelock Director of Music Ministries Artist-in-Residence Kenwood United Methodist Church Milwaukee, Wisconsin musicdirector@kenwood_umc.org=3D   --Apple-Mail-4--730988085 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=3DISO-8859-1   Below I quote Rule 4 of the Code of Ethics of the American Guild of Organists.     <fontfamily><param>Arial</param>=3DA0<<<<=3DA0Before accepting an = engagement for a wedding, funeral, or other service, members shall obtain the approval of the incumbent musician. In cases where this engagement has been requested by a third party, it is appropriate for the third party to offer the incumbent his/her customary fee. It is the responsibility of members to inform the third party of this rule. >>     While not all organists are members of the Guild, the fact that the AGO considers this appropriate to address with national guidelines makes it clear that requesting permission and receiving payment in such a situation is not at all out of the mainstream but, rather, the customary practice. Every church staff/personnel committee should be made immediately aware of this. This is the norm. Period.     =3D </fontfamily><fontfamily><param>Herculanum</param><color><param>5050,0C0C,= =3D 9F9F</param>Larry Wheelock   Director of Music Ministries   Artist-in-Residence   Kenwood United Methodist Church   Milwaukee, Wisconsin   musicdirector@kenwood_umc.org</color></fontfamily>=3D   --Apple-Mail-4--730988085--    
(back) Subject: Re: Musical Change for Candlemas From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 20:34:25 -0500   We're burning up the wires tonight, but that's what they're for.   Tune: Melita   Lord, guard and guide the men who fly Though the great spaces in the sky. Be with them always in the air, In darkening storms or sunlight fair; Oh, hear us when we lift our prayer, For those in peril in the air!   Aloft in solitudes of space, Uphold them with Thy saving grace. Thou Who supports with tender might The balanced birds in all their flight. Lord, if the tempered winds be near, That, having Thee, they know no fear.       --from The Cyber Hymnal, http://http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/e/t/eternalf.htm   In Memory of the Columbia Seven: Rick Husband William McCool Michael Anderson David Brown Kalpana Chawla Laurel Clark Ilan Ramon February 1, 2003      
(back) Subject: Re: Musical Change for Candlemas From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 17:42:21 -0800   We came up with the following revision on Anglican-Music.   Alan Freed wrote: > > We're burning up the wires tonight, but that's what they're for. > > Tune: Melita > > Lord, guard and guide all those who fly > Though the great spaces in the sky. > Be with them always in the air, > In darkening storms or sunlight fair; > Oh, hear us when we lift our prayer, > For those in peril in the air! > > Aloft in solitudes of space, > Uphold them with Thy saving grace. > Thou Who supports with tender might > The soaring birds in all their flight. > Lord, if the raging winds be near, > May those who love thee know no fear. >   Bud    
(back) Subject: Music for 2/2/2003 From: "Carol Scott" <dclscott@skyenet.net> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 20:08:42 -0500   I'll be adding the Navy Hymn (Melita) to my communion music; if I can find = a soloist on short notice, they'll sing this added verse:   Eternal Father, King of birth, Who didst create the heaven and earth, And bid the planets and the sun Their own appointed orbits run; O hear us when we seek thy grace From those who soar through outer space. J. E. Volonte (1961)   Carol Scott   Bud wrote, Are any of you going to attempt to change the music for tomorrow? It's the Feast of the Purification for us, so we can't change the LITURGY, but I've asked the rector if we can change the recessional hymn to "Eternal Father, Strong To Save" (the version with "land, sea and air" in one of the verses); then I'll play a dirge, I suppose ... Dead March from Saul or "Requiem aeternam" by Titcomb. Or is that (the dirge) not appropriate because it's Sunday?      
(back) Subject: Re: Music for 2/2/2003 From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 21:39:36 EST   In a message dated 2/1/03 8:44:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, dclscott@skyenet.net writes:   << Subj: Music for 2/2/2003 Date: 2/1/03 8:44:09 PM Eastern Standard Time From: dclscott@skyenet.net (Carol Scott) >>   Are you the same Carol Scott at Messiah Lutheran in Harrisburg, PA?? Or = did I already know that??   Richard Spittel  
(back) Subject: Re: Musical Change for Candlemas From: "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:15:48 -0500   Not to be picky, but I still have problems with the undue accent which the tune places on the word "the" in the second line of text... :-)   Charles Peery Cincinnati   On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 08:42 PM, quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > We came up with the following revision on Anglican-Music. > > Alan Freed wrote: >> >> We're burning up the wires tonight, but that's what they're for. >> >> Tune: Melita >> >> Lord, guard and guide all those who fly >> Though the great spaces in the sky. >> Be with them always in the air, >> In darkening storms or sunlight fair; >> Oh, hear us when we lift our prayer, >> For those in peril in the air! >> >> Aloft in solitudes of space, >> Uphold them with Thy saving grace. >> Thou Who supports with tender might >> The soaring birds in all their flight. >> Lord, if the raging winds be near, >> May those who love thee know no fear. >> > > Bud > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Musical Change for Candlemas From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:59:10 -0500   Yes, this is the perfect place for a frowned-upon "me too" posting. That = had struck me as well. I would remove the word "the", and slur the word = "great," gently accenting the first of the two notes on "great." The meaning = remains essentially the same.   It's good to be picky about things that matter.   Malcolm   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Musical Change for Candlemas     > Not to be picky, but I still have problems with the undue accent which > the tune places on the word "the" in the second line of text... > :-) > > Charles Peery > Cincinnati > > On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 08:42 PM, quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > > > We came up with the following revision on Anglican-Music. > > > > Alan Freed wrote: > >> > >> We're burning up the wires tonight, but that's what they're for. > >> > >> Tune: Melita > >> > >> Lord, guard and guide all those who fly > >> Though the great spaces in the sky. > >> Be with them always in the air, > >> In darkening storms or sunlight fair; > >> Oh, hear us when we lift our prayer, > >> For those in peril in the air! > >> > >> Aloft in solitudes of space, > >> Uphold them with Thy saving grace. > >> Thou Who supports with tender might > >> The soaring birds in all their flight. > >> Lord, if the raging winds be near, > >> May those who love thee know no fear. > >> > > > > Bud > >