PipeChat Digest #3432 - Wednesday, February 5, 2003
 
RE:Iraq
  by "R.E. Malone" <remalone@btinternet.com>
UK radio "The organist entertains"
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
more on performance practice
  by "Daniel Muller" <DVM5704@dcccd.edu>
RE: more on performance practice
  by "Jonathan" <jhumbert@ptd.net>
Providing organ specification at recitals (x-posted)
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re:  Scholarly Organist Group
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: more on performance practice
  by "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu>
Re: more on performance practice
  by "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu>
Re: more on performance practice
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Skinner opus 132 for FREE in NYC
  by "Steven Frank" <steve@virgilfox.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE:Iraq From: "R.E. Malone" <remalone@btinternet.com> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:32:55 -0000   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0027_01C2CD01.F2897030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hello all, I have spent the last two weeks trying to a news item into the public domain over here, the following email explains itself. Has anyone got any method to "Publicize" it? I have also sent it to the NYT and Washington Post. Regards. Richard Hello there, Are you aware of a news item shown last Thursday (23/01/03) on Fox News. It was simple and explicit. A NEW COMMITTEE MET TODAY AT THE WHITEHOUSE, ITS PURPOSE IS TO REBUILD ROADS, SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS IN IRAQ. IT MAY DEPLOY BEFORE ACTION BEGINS. Given if their roads are as bad as ours they may need help. To rebuild schools and hospitals must mean Iraqi cities are going to resemble Hamburg and Dresden if Bush carries out his stated intentions. I have emailed the BBC,ITV,Sky News, Most of the national newspapers, Dennis Skinner MP and several other MPs with this information with no results. Is there a D notice? Or is News, radio and television journalism so poor they cannot see the implications? Regards Richard. 01274 575916. "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" 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Has anyone got any method to =3D &#8220;Publicize&#8221; it? I have also sent it to the NYT and Washington =3D Post.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D2 color=3D3Dnavy = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D2 color=3D3Dnavy = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><span style=3D3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= =3D p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span class=3D3DGramE>Regards.</span> =3D Richard<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D2 color=3D3Dnavy = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D2 color=3D3Dnavy = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D2 color=3D3Dnavy = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:navy'><span style=3D3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= =3D p;&nbsp; </span></span></font><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span =3D lang=3D3DEN-GB style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =3D New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Hello there,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier =3D New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Are you aware of a news item =3D shown last Thursday (</span></font><st1:date Month=3D3D"1" Day=3D3D"23" =3D Year=3D3D"2003"><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"; mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>23/01/03</span></font></st1:date><font =3D size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"; mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>) on Fox News. It was simple and =3D explicit.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier =3D New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>A NEW COMMITTEE MET TODAY AT THE WHITEHOUSE, ITS PURPOSE IS TO REBUILD ROADS, SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS IN =3D </span></font><st1:country-region><st1:place><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier =3D New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>IRAQ</span></font></st1:place></st1:country= =3D -region><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier =3D New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>IT MAY DEPLOY BEFORE ACTION =3D BEGINS.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier =3D New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Given if their roads are as bad =3D as ours they may need help. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier =3D New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>To rebuild schools and hospitals = =3D must mean Iraqi cities are going to resemble =3D </span></font><st1:State><st1:place><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier =3D New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Hamburg</span></font></st1:place></st1:Stat= =3D e><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> and =3D </span></font><st1:City><st1:place><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Courier =3D New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Dresden</span></font></st1:place></st1:City= =3D ><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> if Bush carries out his stated intentions. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier =3D New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I have emailed the BBC<span =3D class=3D3DGramE>,ITV,Sky</span> News, Most of the national newspapers, Dennis Skinner MP and several =3D other MPs with this information with no results.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier =3D New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Is there a D notice? Or is News, = =3D radio and television journalism so poor they cannot see the =3D implications?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier =3D New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><span class=3D3DGramE><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span = lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Regards =3D Richard.</span></font></span><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> <span class=3D3DGramE>01274 =3D 575916.</span><span style=3D3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =3D </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal =3D style=3D3D'mso-layout-grid-align:none;text-autospace:none'><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3D"Courier New"><span lang=3D3DEN-GB =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family: "Courier =3D New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D2 color=3D3Dnavy = face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><span = =3D style=3D3D'font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>   </div>   </body>   </html> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" 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(back) Subject: UK radio "The organist entertains" From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 03:58:54 +0000 (GMT)   Hello,   Two remarkable things on the long running Radio 2 programme "The organist entertains" from the BBC.   Firstly, a chance to hear the new instrument by Mander at St.Ignatious, Loyola........wow!   Secondly, a truly awful performance of the Bach D-minor, with lots of swell shutters, an incredibly fast fugue, loud registration and huge armfuls of showmanship.   Tuning into the programme after it had started, I was wondering who might be playing this "criminally insane" performance........all my guesses were very wide of the mark. It was none other than the late, and very great, George Thalben-Ball in his younger days as a concert virtuoso playing to the gallery.   This reminded me of certain recent criticisms about a young organist in the USA.......   It must be the case that, as we grow older, we forget how wild and wacky WE might once have been.   If it was good enough for GTB, then who are we to criticise?   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     John Foss <harfo32@hotmail.com> wrote:   > Not having heard either Mr Carpenter or Mr hell in > person I can only go from > list members comments on their playing, ........   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: more on performance practice From: "Daniel Muller" <DVM5704@dcccd.edu> Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 01:15:00 -0600   On Tue, 04 Feb 2003, at 11:54:38 -0800, <quilisma@socal.rr.com> wrote:   "... A couple of things: even IF the music could be performed in the context of the Mass, and even IF a priest and congregation would hold still for the LENGTH, *most* modern congregations would jump out of their SKINS if the organist launched into a Grand Jeu in the midst of the Kyrie, with all the reeds and cornets blazing away.   The same can be said for the versets of the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei. We're dealing with a TOTALLY different liturgical aesthetic in the 21st century."   While accepting Mr. Clark's premise that a time (and place) machine is not necessary for effective use of music from different periods for liturgy, I would like to introduce some nuancing: I think that a grand jeu in the Kyrie would not be a surprise based on other music that would precede and contextualize it. Depending on the ceremonial, there might be quite a bit of time for the organist to "extend" the introit, and it would be precisely his job to bring the music around to the Kyrie. In a similar way, it is often my job to extend the offertory chant in a way that acknowledges that (the "preface dialogue" Dominus vobiscum ... and) Sanctus are coming.   Actually, the first piece of music that came to my mind while reading this was the Kyrie from Langlais' Missa "Salve Regina" for (male?) chorus and brass (four trombones?) alternatim accompanied by organ, which is of course quite modern -- and loud! -- although based on the solemn tone Salve Regina. Find me the brass and I will do it in a heartbeat. And there will probably be a brass prelude as well. In ritual, the best surprise is no surprise.   "The same can also be said of the pieces for the Elevations ... in Italy in Frescobaldi's time, it was the custom for the priest to hold the Host aloft for five minutes or more, which allowed for the playing of the Toccatas at the Elevation in the Fiori musicale. That liturgical custom no longer exists."   Three points: First of all, the Benedictus was to be sung and the elevation could be played over the Canon, which, not being a proclamation such as the Gospel, was said silently. This is still true in churches that celebrate the traditional Mass -- no, not ours. Secondly, there is no restriction on the time of the actual elevation(s) at a Catholic Mass; in our parish, each elevation is at least a full minute. Finally, it is quite possible and appropriate to play an elevation at Benediction. I think it is beautiful although I have never done so; I also think it is quite possible that Frescobaldi did this himself.   We are not necessarily so remote from these traditions.   Daniel Muller Blessed Sacrament Church Dallas  
(back) Subject: RE: more on performance practice From: "Jonathan" <jhumbert@ptd.net> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:10:38 -0500   You said: A big part of my practice, especially in the beginning of learning a new composition, is practicing away from the keyboard. Just closing my eyes and letting the music formulate in my mind. Letting it talk to me and visualizing the finished product.     Charles:   Do you mean that you look at the notes written on the page and try to "visualize" the sound and structure of the piece or do you mean you listen to a recording before starting to work on it? This is fascinating (I've never heard this in so many words before). Have you found this to help = you get into a new piece more quickly?   Jonathan Humbert    
(back) Subject: Providing organ specification at recitals (x-posted) From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 20:33:18 EST   Dearest assembled:   It is a good policy, for many reasons, to provide not just stoplists, = but organ specifications, at organ recitals. The more accurate and detailed, = the better. At first blush, one might figure that to the average attendee, it = appears no different than a menu in a foreign language, and is of little use or meaning. Yet it really tells the uninitiated that the instrument is = complex and vast, and far more than the 37 chipped, dented tubes painted = funeral-home radiator "gold-tone" paint behind the altar. The year of construction, whether new or ancient, is important. The = same is true of the rebuilding projects associated with the organ -- it lets audiences and congregants know that pipe organs are renewable, evolving resources, or fine enough in their original design to be restored, = unaltered, after decades or centuries. An opus number lets people know that these are =   not one-shot deals, that people devote their lives to building these = wonders, one after the other. It takes little effort to do it correctly, and if you are unsure, ask your organ curator for help. "Flote de Chimneyee 8'" doesn't cut it, but nicely organized columns, with such information as "8' Flute a Cheminee = (look up the appropriate accents, the sources are there), 61 pipes, 1-12 stopped =   poplar, 13-61 50% tin with domed caps, chimneys 13-49" tells facts to = those in the know, and opens a world of inquisitiveness to those who do not. List wind pressures as well. Which division goes with which manual. = How many horsepower each of the blowers are. Even if ONE person wants to know what these things mean, it draws one more human being into the world of the pipe organ, its history, its music, =   and its construction. That person is a possible donor, a possible future organist, a possible future organbuilder. If your church or synagogue or school won't spring for the photocopying, isn't it worth it to do it = yourself? Sebastian M. Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Re: Scholarly Organist Group From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 03:29:45 +0000 (GMT)   Hello,   I absolutely agree with everything Tommy says!   However, there is a kind of exchange which is not "general" or can be quite code-ish.....the sort of conversations which members of the Medical Profession indulge in, where the name of a drug may trigger all sorts of associated information which only the absolute professional might understand.   No one is about to abandon "pipechat" I think!   Perhaps the point about strict academic qualification is one which I have my personal doubts about.....some of the very best performers in the UK are not academics in the true sense. Some really big names were honoured with academic qualifications, such as Virgil Fox, but they gained them the hard way!   Academic achievers are, like great performers, a breed apart........I used to have a partner who was a triple Masters before the age of 24!!!!!! (Harvard, Paris, Columbia). The fact that this same person could barely write an original nursery rhyme, did nothing to bolster my faith in the English Literature and Language programmes he pursued!   Wasn't it Haslett (Sp?) who talked about "The ignorance of the learned"......the man whom he described as knowing everything there was to know about the tribes and castes of the Kalmut (Sp?) Tarters, but who knew nothing at all about his next door neighbour.   Would you REALLY want to be in the same group as these people?   Put it another way.......how much Ivory does it take to build a skyscraper in Manhattan?   Were this group in the UK, it would have been an all male preserve, with women allowed only as guests..... at least you are not barred on the grounds of gender!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   --- TommyLee Whitlock <tommylee@whitlock.org> wrote: ! > > I respectfully disagree with you here, Colin, and > also with Mr. Gettleman. By > demanding "proper" credentials and academic degrees, > how can the list be > anything _but_ elitist? >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: more on performance practice From: "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 16:22:52 -0700       "Charles E. Brown" wrote: > > Our first role as organist, like any other performing artist, is to be a > communicator of ideas. Whether I am playing a hymn, or performing a work > by Bach, my first and primary concern is what the work says to me and > how I can communicate that idea to the people listening.     Music is a language. If I travel to a foreign country where I know = nothing about the language, I will have a difficult time communicating ideas.   The more I understand the musical language of other times and cultures, the better I will understand and, in turn communicate those ideas to = others through my performance of another composers musical thoughts. I take that as an obligation if I am going to try to communicate the music of Bach, or Brahms, or Bartok to others.   D. Case Pacific Union College  
(back) Subject: Re: more on performance practice From: "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 16:32:53 -0700                 Ronald:   It does get slippery!   Charles E. Brown       Yes, it does get slippery. There is more than one slope. The slope of "who cares, it is all about what I want to do" is just as slippery.       D. Case  
(back) Subject: Re: more on performance practice From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 20:10:15 -0500   On 2/4/03 6:13 PM, "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> wrote:   > I have a real problem with the term "AUTHENTIC."   Dr. Case: You sound very sensible to me. What/where is Pacific Union College? Year founded (just an academic questions, because I thought I = knew West coast schools, but this one does not ring a bell)?   Alan, PLU, 1955    
(back) Subject: Skinner opus 132 for FREE in NYC From: "Steven Frank" <steve@virgilfox.com> Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 20:41:20 -0500   Hi, All,   I am offering the following for free to the first person who will come and take it.   I have E.M. Skinner opus 132 in my basement in pieces.   The console (2 manual) is Organ Supply. Blower, shades, 12 ranks, chimes.   The ranks are as follows:   16' Open Wood (mitered at about 12 feet) 16' Bourdon   8' Gt. Open Diapason 8' Gt. Gross Flute 8' Gt. Aeoline 8' Gt. Unda Maris   8' Sw. Flute 4' Sw. Flute 8' Sw. Salicional 8' Sw. Voix Celeste   8' Sw. Cornopean 8' Sw. Vox Humana (no resonators)   Chimes 21 notes   Console is Organ Supply, not Skinner. 2 manual/pedal   "Big green" blower   Main chest 10 ranks - about 8'x5' Many offsets. Open wood has own chest. Vox has own chest.   Have shades, blower   Pipes are not in trays - laying about (sorry!) There is some pipe damage (i.e. Squashed) but most pipes are OK. This is definitely a "handyman's special" It has been in my basement since 1985.   That's is about it!   Steve