PipeChat Digest #3462 - Friday, February 14, 2003
 
Re: How does the Rodgers sound compared to an Allen
  by "G. Deboer" <gdeboer@bluemarble.net>
The Bennett System
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Steering away from the digital discussion.
  by <Pepehomer@aol.com>
Re: How does the Rodgers sound compared to an Allen
  by "Teah" <teahzg@charter.net>
Re: Steering away from the digital discussion.
  by "Teah" <teahzg@charter.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: How does the Rodgers sound compared to an Allen From: "G. Deboer" <gdeboer@bluemarble.net> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 23:49:55 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0008_01C2D483.C64CC740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   I have not promoted, not even mentioned any particular brand name. =3D20 I have not seen nor heard a Cantor and have never formed an opinion of =3D one. =3D20 People have selected other brands of organs for exactly the same reasons = =3D you are giving to your name and model. Your opinions have value to you, = =3D because you believe them to be fact, but they are meaningless to others. Regardless of what brand I may represent or which product I may own at =3D this time, the internet and most certainly this pipechat group is not =3D the place to promote or even mention your favorite digital organ brand. = =3D All such opinions are extremely biased, out of place and therefore =3D nonsense and irrelevant. Case closed.   Gary=3D20   ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Teah=3D20 To: PipeChat=3D20 Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:35 PM Subject: Re: How does the Rodgers sound compared to an Allen     Gary wrote:   "As I said in my original advice, yours is only one opinion and as =3D such is totally useless to the other person ready to investigate his or = =3D her own purchase.=3D20 A knowledgeable adult is not influenced by the idle sales talk of =3D promoting one instrument over another, no matter what direction it comes = =3D from. Sound, Quality construction, Price, Parts availability, that's where =3D it's at. Caveat Emptor - Buyer Beware."   Gary,     Gary,   Granted, my opinion may be only one, but I fail to see how that =3D opinion is "totally useless". Do you think I am totally clueless? I =3D think not! While I did resent the strong arm sales tactics employed by some =3D dealerships, that was not the deciding factor. For me the potential =3D builders were narrowed to 3: Eminent, Johannus, and Cantor. I chose =3D Cantor for the very reasons you stated. 1. Sound Quality (Musicom =3D System, not Sample Technology). 2. Construction (Hand crafted console) = =3D 3. Price (and warranty) 4. Service. Cantor has met or exceded my =3D expectations and requirements in every instance. Eminent and Johannus, = =3D while fine instruments, could not give me what I wanted in an organ "off = =3D the floor".   Since you are a Johannus Dealer, one can naturally assume that it is = =3D in your interest to promote the Johannus product line. Just as it would = =3D be for Rodgers, Allen, or other dealers. The fact that I purchased a =3D digital organ from that other Dutch builder does not invalidate my =3D opinion of all 3. Have you seen, heard, or played a Cantor? I doubt =3D it, since there are only 2 in the US, and you haven't been to my =3D house.... so, what weight should I give your opinion? Rather little I =3D would think.   Respectfully,   Tim     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.454 / Virus Database: 253 - Release Date: 2/10/2003   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0008_01C2D483.C64CC740 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I have not promoted, not even = mentioned =3D any=3D20 particular brand name.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I have not seen nor heard a Cantor = and =3D have=3D20 never&nbsp;formed an opinion of one.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>People have selected other brands of = =3D organs for=3D20 exactly the same reasons you are giving to your name and model.&nbsp; =3D Your=3D20 opinions have value to you, because you believe them to be fact, but =3D they are=3D20 meaningless to others.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Regardless of what brand I may =3D represent or which=3D20 product I may own at this time, the internet and most certainly this =3D pipechat=3D20 group is not the place to promote or even mention your favorite digital = =3D organ=3D20 brand.&nbsp; All such opinions are extremely biased, out of =3D place&nbsp;and=3D20 therefore nonsense and irrelevant.&nbsp; Case closed.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Gary</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Dteahzg@charter.net =3D href=3D3D"mailto:teahzg@charter.net">Teah</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">PipeChat</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 14, 2003 = =3D 9:35=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: How does the =3D Rodgers sound=3D20 compared to an Allen</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Gary wrote:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>"<FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>As = I =3D said in my original=3D20 advice, yours is only one opinion and as such is totally useless =3D to&nbsp;the=3D20 other person ready to investigate his or her own purchase.</FONT>=3D20 <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>A knowledgeable adult is not =3D influenced by the=3D20 idle sales talk of promoting one instrument over another, no matter =3D what=3D20 direction it comes from.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Sound, Quality construction, Price, = =3D Parts=3D20 availability, that's where it's at.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Caveat Emptor - Buyer =3D Beware."</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Gary,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Gary,</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Granted, my opinion may be only = =3D one, but I fail=3D20 to see how that opinion is "totally useless".&nbsp; Do you think I =3D am=3D20 totally clueless?&nbsp; I think not!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>While I did resent the strong arm = =3D sales tactics=3D20 employed by some dealerships, that was not the deciding =3D factor.&nbsp; For me=3D20 the&nbsp;potential builders were narrowed to 3:&nbsp; Eminent, =3D Johannus, and=3D20 Cantor.&nbsp; I chose Cantor for the very reasons you stated.&nbsp; = =3D 1. Sound=3D20 Quality (Musicom System, not Sample Technology).&nbsp; 2. =3D Construction (Hand=3D20 crafted console)&nbsp; 3.&nbsp; Price (and warranty)&nbsp; 4.=3D20 Service.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp; Cantor has = =3D met or=3D20 exceded my expectations and requirements in every instance.&nbsp; =3D Eminent=3D20 and Johannus, while fine instruments, could not give me what I =3D wanted in an=3D20 organ "off the floor".</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Since you are a Johannus Dealer, = =3D one can=3D20 naturally assume that it is in your interest to promote the Johannus = =3D product=3D20 line.&nbsp; Just as it would be for Rodgers, Allen, or other =3D dealers.&nbsp;=3D20 The fact that I purchased a digital organ from that other Dutch =3D builder does=3D20 not invalidate my opinion of all 3.&nbsp; Have you seen, heard, or =3D played a=3D20 Cantor?&nbsp; I doubt it, since there are only 2 in the US, and you = =3D haven't=3D20 been to my house.... so, what weight should I give your =3D opinion?&nbsp;=3D20 Rather little I would think.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Respectfully,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tim</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><BR>---<BR>Outgoing mail is =3D certified Virus=3D20 Free.<BR>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (<A=3D20 =3D href=3D3D"http://www.grisoft.com">http://www.grisoft.com</A>).<BR>Version: = =3D   6.0.454 / Virus Database: 253 - Release Date:=3D20 2/10/2003</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0008_01C2D483.C64CC740--    
(back) Subject: The Bennett System From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 23:18:41 -0600   Hi list, I have a question. I occasionally play a 1914 Bennett Organ manufactured in Rock Island, Il. On the stopboard is the name plaque of = the manufacturer and it says. "The Bennett Organ Co. Rock Island, IL. the Bennett system." What was or is the "Bennett System?" Just wondered. Thanks, Gary      
(back) Subject: Steering away from the digital discussion. From: <Pepehomer@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 00:17:12 -0500   Since I don't wanna get caught up in the digital debate, I thought I'd = throw this back out into the e-mails. For the longest time I have been = "obsessed" with the Prelude by William Harris that was performed at the = Princess Di funeral by Martin Baker. I have the original Prelude, which = is merely a fraction of the one performed (and, as I have found out over = time, completely improvised from the two-page long original)   Does anyone have any contact information (preferably e-mail) for Martin = Baker so that I might perhaps beg him to obtain either a copy or at least = encourage him to attempt to have it published? Do you sense the = desperation?   And Allen is better... I'm kidding!   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA  
(back) Subject: Re: How does the Rodgers sound compared to an Allen From: "Teah" <teahzg@charter.net> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 23:39:31 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0006_01C2D482.5266C8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Gary,   Of late, several List Members have asked for information AND opinions of = =3D various "brands" of digital organs, Cantor and Phoenix specifically. =3D Members who replied to these posts have shared good information and =3D informed opinions on the subject. I suppose all of us who have =3D participated in this thread are from your point of view "nonsensical and = =3D irrelevant".   Who are you to determine what is or is not an appropriate thread for =3D this Forum, or to deem certain opinions irrelevant? That to me is the =3D height of arrogance. If one doesn't approve the subject of a thread, =3D there is always the delete key.   I have no desire to promote any brand of organ over another, and I don't = =3D think I have done so. I simply answered specific questions about the =3D brand of organ that I own. I have no affiliation or interest in any =3D organ company. My interest is in organs, whether Pipes or Digital. No = =3D particular "brand" or type. They each have there place within the =3D musical community.   I must thank you for the put down in such a public place. It's good to = =3D know that Gary Deboer is so eminently qualified to determine what is or = =3D is not relevant to the discussion. Get over yourself.   Tim ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: G. Deboer=3D20 To: PipeChat=3D20 Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:49 PM Subject: Re: How does the Rodgers sound compared to an Allen     I have not promoted, not even mentioned any particular brand name. =3D20 I have not seen nor heard a Cantor and have never formed an opinion of = =3D one. =3D20 People have selected other brands of organs for exactly the same =3D reasons you are giving to your name and model. Your opinions have value = =3D to you, because you believe them to be fact, but they are meaningless to = =3D others. Regardless of what brand I may represent or which product I may own at = =3D this time, the internet and most certainly this pipechat group is not =3D the place to promote or even mention your favorite digital organ brand. = =3D All such opinions are extremely biased, out of place and therefore =3D nonsense and irrelevant. Case closed.   Gary=3D20   ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Teah=3D20 To: PipeChat=3D20 Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:35 PM Subject: Re: How does the Rodgers sound compared to an Allen     Gary wrote:   "As I said in my original advice, yours is only one opinion and as =3D such is totally useless to the other person ready to investigate his or = =3D her own purchase.=3D20 A knowledgeable adult is not influenced by the idle sales talk of =3D promoting one instrument over another, no matter what direction it comes = =3D from. Sound, Quality construction, Price, Parts availability, that's where = =3D it's at. Caveat Emptor - Buyer Beware."   Gary,     Gary,   Granted, my opinion may be only one, but I fail to see how that =3D opinion is "totally useless". Do you think I am totally clueless? I =3D think not! While I did resent the strong arm sales tactics employed by some =3D dealerships, that was not the deciding factor. For me the potential =3D builders were narrowed to 3: Eminent, Johannus, and Cantor. I chose =3D Cantor for the very reasons you stated. 1. Sound Quality (Musicom =3D System, not Sample Technology). 2. Construction (Hand crafted console) = =3D 3. Price (and warranty) 4. Service. Cantor has met or exceded my =3D expectations and requirements in every instance. Eminent and Johannus, = =3D while fine instruments, could not give me what I wanted in an organ "off = =3D the floor".   Since you are a Johannus Dealer, one can naturally assume that it = =3D is in your interest to promote the Johannus product line. Just as it =3D would be for Rodgers, Allen, or other dealers. The fact that I =3D purchased a digital organ from that other Dutch builder does not =3D invalidate my opinion of all 3. Have you seen, heard, or played a =3D Cantor? I doubt it, since there are only 2 in the US, and you haven't =3D been to my house.... so, what weight should I give your opinion? Rather = =3D little I would think.   Respectfully,   Tim     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.454 / Virus Database: 253 - Release Date: 2/10/2003 ------=3D_NextPart_000_0006_01C2D482.5266C8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Gary,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Of late, several List Members have = =3D asked for=3D20 information AND opinions of various "brands" of digital organs, Cantor =3D and=3D20 Phoenix specifically.&nbsp; Members who replied to these posts have =3D shared good=3D20 information and informed opinions on the subject.&nbsp; I suppose all of = =3D us who=3D20 have participated in this thread are from your point of view =3D "nonsensical and=3D20 irrelevant".</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Who are you to determine what is or = is =3D not an=3D20 appropriate thread for this Forum, or to deem certain opinions =3D irrelevant?&nbsp;=3D20 That to me is the height of arrogance.&nbsp; If one doesn't approve the = =3D subject=3D20 of a thread, there is always the delete key.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I have no desire to promote any brand = =3D of organ over=3D20 another, and I don't think I have done so.&nbsp; I simply answered =3D specific=3D20 questions about&nbsp;the brand of&nbsp;organ that I own.&nbsp; I have no = =3D   affiliation or interest in any organ company.&nbsp; My interest is in =3D organs,=3D20 whether Pipes or Digital.&nbsp; No particular "brand" or type.&nbsp; =3D They each=3D20 have there place within the musical community.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I must thank you for the put down in = =3D such a public=3D20 place.&nbsp; It's good to know that Gary Deboer is so eminently =3D qualified to=3D20 determine what is or is not relevant to the discussion.&nbsp; Get = over=3D20 yourself.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tim</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Dgdeboer@bluemarble.net =3D href=3D3D"mailto:gdeboer@bluemarble.net">G.=3D20 Deboer</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">PipeChat</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 14, 2003 = =3D 10:49=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: How does the =3D Rodgers sound=3D20 compared to an Allen</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I have not promoted, not even =3D mentioned any=3D20 particular brand name.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I have not seen nor heard a Cantor = =3D and have=3D20 never&nbsp;formed an opinion of one.&nbsp; </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>People have selected other brands = of =3D organs for=3D20 exactly the same reasons you are giving to your name and model.&nbsp; = =3D Your=3D20 opinions have value to you, because you believe them to be fact, but =3D they are=3D20 meaningless to others.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Regardless of what brand I may =3D represent or which=3D20 product I may own at this time, the internet and most certainly this =3D pipechat=3D20 group is not the place to promote or even mention your favorite =3D digital organ=3D20 brand.&nbsp; All such opinions are extremely biased, out of =3D place&nbsp;and=3D20 therefore nonsense and irrelevant.&nbsp; Case closed.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Gary</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Dteahzg@charter.net =3D href=3D3D"mailto:teahzg@charter.net">Teah</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">PipeChat</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 14, = =3D 2003 9:35=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: How does the =3D Rodgers sound=3D20 compared to an Allen</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Gary wrote:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>"<FONT face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2>As I =3D said in my=3D20 original advice, yours is only one opinion and as such is totally =3D useless=3D20 to&nbsp;the other person ready to investigate his or her own=3D20 purchase.</FONT>=3D20 <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>A knowledgeable adult is not =3D influenced by the=3D20 idle sales talk of promoting one instrument over another, no matter = =3D what=3D20 direction it comes from.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Sound, Quality construction, = Price, =3D Parts=3D20 availability, that's where it's at.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Caveat Emptor - Buyer =3D Beware."</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Gary,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Gary,</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Granted, my opinion may be only = =3D one, but I=3D20 fail to see how that opinion is "totally useless".&nbsp; Do you =3D think I am=3D20 totally clueless?&nbsp; I think not!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>While I did resent the strong = arm =3D sales=3D20 tactics employed by some dealerships, that was not the deciding=3D20 factor.&nbsp; For me the&nbsp;potential builders were narrowed to = =3D 3:&nbsp;=3D20 Eminent, Johannus, and Cantor.&nbsp; I chose Cantor for the very =3D reasons=3D20 you stated.&nbsp; 1. Sound Quality (Musicom System, not Sample=3D20 Technology).&nbsp; 2. Construction (Hand crafted console)&nbsp; =3D 3.&nbsp;=3D20 Price (and warranty)&nbsp; 4. Service.</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT =3D face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2>&nbsp; Cantor has met or exceded my expectations and =3D requirements=3D20 in every instance.&nbsp; Eminent and Johannus, while fine =3D instruments,=3D20 could not give me what I wanted in an organ "off the =3D floor".</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Since you are a Johannus = Dealer, =3D one can=3D20 naturally assume that it is in your interest to promote the =3D Johannus=3D20 product line.&nbsp; Just as it would be for Rodgers, Allen, or =3D other=3D20 dealers.&nbsp; The fact that I purchased a digital organ from that = =3D other=3D20 Dutch builder does not invalidate my opinion of all 3.&nbsp; Have =3D you=3D20 seen, heard, or played a Cantor?&nbsp; I doubt it, since there are = =3D only 2=3D20 in the US, and you haven't been to my house.... so, what weight =3D should I=3D20 give your opinion?&nbsp; Rather little I would think.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Respectfully,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tim</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><BR>---<BR>Outgoing mail is =3D certified Virus=3D20 Free.<BR>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (<A=3D20 =3D href=3D3D"http://www.grisoft.com">http://www.grisoft.com</A>).<BR>Version: = =3D   6.0.454 / Virus Database: 253 - Release Date:=3D20 =3D 2/10/2003</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTM= =3D L>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0006_01C2D482.5266C8E0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Steering away from the digital discussion. From: "Teah" <teahzg@charter.net> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 23:42:10 -0600   "And Allen is better... I'm kidding!"   LOL! Careful now, that's nonsensical, inappropriate, and irrelevant to = the discussion!   ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pepehomer@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 11:17 PM Subject: Steering away from the digital discussion.     > Since I don't wanna get caught up in the digital debate, I thought I'd throw this back out into the e-mails. For the longest time I have been "obsessed" with the Prelude by William Harris that was performed at the Princess Di funeral by Martin Baker. I have the original Prelude, which = is merely a fraction of the one performed (and, as I have found out over = time, completely improvised from the two-page long original) > > Does anyone have any contact information (preferably e-mail) for Martin Baker so that I might perhaps beg him to obtain either a copy or at least encourage him to attempt to have it published? Do you sense the desperation? > > And Allen is better... I'm kidding! > > Justin Karch > Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS > Rome, GA > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.454 / Virus Database: 253 - Release Date: 2/10/2003