PipeChat Digest #3470 - Sunday, February 16, 2003
 
RE: Even Bigger than Huge Pipe Organs
  by "Bill Sebring" <baircub@austin.rr.com>
Re: Glass/Plastic Music racks and 5-Manual Organs
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Rodgers, Allen, flowers that bloom in spring, tra la
  by "Tommy Becnel" <tbecnel@cajunnet.com>
Looking for a hymn
  by "Joe Elliffe" <jelli@tampabay.rr.com>
Robin Williams' Top Ten reasons to be Episcopalian
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
books for exchange
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Glass/Plastic Music racks and 5-Manual Organs
  by "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com>
Organ in a recent movie
  by <Pologaptommy@aol.com>
Re: Glass/Plastic Music racks and 5-Manual Organs
  by "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: Looking for a hymn
  by "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Even Bigger than Huge Pipe Organs From: "Bill Sebring" <baircub@austin.rr.com> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 16:59:18 -0600   wow, what a way to blowdry your hair in the morning, eh? >:-{)}   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of John L. Speller Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 4:28 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Even Bigger than Huge Pipe Organs     D. Keith Morgan wrote:   > I have heard one trompette-en-chamade on 50" wihd > pressure. If you want to know what that sounded like, > go to the railroad yard and let them blow a diesel > horn in your ear.   Actually the organ stop is probably louder than the horn of a diesel locomotive. Locomotive horns generally produce about 115 dB, which is about the same as a Tuba on 20" wind. A stop on 50" wind might well be quite a bit louder, although there may not actually be a great deal to be gained by going to pressures beyond about 30".   John Speller   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Glass/Plastic Music racks and 5-Manual Organs From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:35:05 EST     --part1_147.ad0acd0.2b817a29_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi Dennis:   I must agree with you and your reasoning about these five manual consoles. They look terrific! No question about it, but are they practical? Fred Swann was overheard remarking, the fourth and fifth manuals are perfect for placing your lunch sack and thermos.=3D20 Most organists float those divisions to the lower three manuals as a matter of convenience. On tracker organs only an average of 16 stops per manual chest necessitated the arrangement of four or five manuals. Even at that if all the stops were pulled on each the action was so heavy only very virile male types could push the keys down so Barker invented the pneumatic assist to make it possible for a humanbeing to play them.   I know because I play one, for practice in my home. It looks=3D20 terrific, that's why I bought it, but is it practical? the answer is NO. I float the Solo and Bombard to the lower three manuals all the time. The top two keyboards are almost never used. I'm tall, and beyond the third manual it's a tireing, and long reach. Ruth Barrett long at the Mother Church, Boston, had =3DC6olian Skinner remove the fifth manual because of the reach, and she wasn't short either. A box shaped shunt fills that space even today. She was the wife of the great Phelps who designed the organ for =3DC6olian Skinner. The stops for that manual are floated with couplers to the other four.   Ron Severin   --part1_147.ad0acd0.2b817a29_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Hi Dennis:<BR> <BR> I must agree with you and your reasoning about these five<BR> manual consoles. They look terrific! No question about it, but are = they<BR> practical? Fred Swann was overheard remarking, the fourth and<BR> fifth manuals are perfect for placing your lunch sack and thermos. <BR> Most organists float those divisions to the lower three manuals<BR> as a matter of convenience. On tracker organs only an average<BR> of 16 stops per manual chest necessitated the arrangement<BR> of four or five manuals. Even at that if all the stops were pulled<BR> on each the action was so heavy only very virile male types could<BR> push the keys down so Barker invented the pneumatic assist<BR> to make it possible for a humanbeing to play them.<BR> <BR> I know because I play one, for practice in my home. It looks <BR> terrific, that's why I bought it, but is it practical? the answer is<BR> NO. I float the Solo and Bombard to the lower three manuals<BR> all the time. The top two keyboards are almost never used.<BR> I'm tall, and beyond the third manual it's a tireing, and long reach.<BR> Ruth Barrett long at the Mother Church, Boston, had =3DC6olian<BR> Skinner remove the fifth manual because of the reach, and she<BR> wasn't short either. A box shaped shunt fills that space even today.<BR> She was the wife of the great Phelps who designed the organ<BR> for =3DC6olian Skinner. The stops for that manual are floated with<BR> couplers to the other four.<BR> <BR> Ron Severin</FONT></HTML>   --part1_147.ad0acd0.2b817a29_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Rodgers, Allen, flowers that bloom in spring, tra la From: "Tommy Becnel" <tbecnel@cajunnet.com> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:01:15 -0600   There was an old Wicks in the church which in which I was recently = relieved of my duty as choir director and supplanted by a synthesizer. I tried desperately (before I attended the parish) to get them to repair the instrument. It had an English Horn to die for! ... In the Romanesque building, the completely enclosed instrument had a gorgeous, lush sound = ... but could be somewhat bright when needed.... a perfect RC church = instrument. .... sadly replaced by a Baldwin which is now not used at all. Was dying = when I left, and I know that no one will bother with yearly maintenance.       ----- Original Message ----- From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 2:29 PM Subject: Rodgers, Allen, flowers that bloom in spring, tra la     > I have recommended both at various times, and played both. I have no > particular axe to grind with either. > > Here's the thing: IF there are problems with Rodgers, they are (and > these are not their fault): > > (1) they've gone through a number of owners; as a result, the R & D > dept. has taken different directions at different times; there has been > a turn-over in R & D personnel. > > I don't remember now who owned the company at the time (Mitsubishi?) but > there was that infamous lighted rocker tab series of organs that were > really FOUL (grin). That was back in the analog days. > > (2) there is an inventory tax on IMPORTED parts. As a result, ten years > is about the outside limit for stocking parts before a dealer starts > losing money on them, so they don't stock them beyond that. > > Apparently ALLEN doesn't have that problem ... perhaps because they MAKE > UP parts for their older organs as needed. I needed a combo motherboard > for a 30-year-old 301-C; they made it up and sent it to me. > > (3) (and this WAS their fault) - the 800 number to Hillsboro was the > best-kept secret in the industry, even for "factory-trained" techs. > Answer a QUESTION? you've got to be KIDDING! It was THAT that caused me > to stop working with them. > > Allen may be a bit "we are OMNIPOTENT" on the phone, but at least they > ANSWER it (grin). > > I think Rogers' current preoccupation with additional MIDI sounds (choir > alleluias on a drawknob, etc.) is probably aimed at the mega-church > market that has use for such things ... I don't (grin). > > I haven't had occasion to voice a new Rodgers OR a new Allen ... what I > saw in the Allen dealership of the ability to voice a Renaissance from a > laptop impressed me. Maybe somebody who has had experience voicing a new > Rodgers can tell us about that. > > A five-rank Wicks in an RC church seating 2000 wasn't atypical before > Vatican II ... in most places, all the organ had to do was accompany a > small choir, and perhaps the organist singing daily High Masses ... > though I understand the latter was pretty much limited to the > nationality parishes in the midwest and east. > > Perhaps the Diapason-Flute-String-Celeste-Reed unit organ could be made > into the Swell, and a new Great and Pedal added. But you'd probably need > to do it all on electro-mechanical chests so everything will speak > together. Or you could even add another used > Diapason-Flute-String-Celeste-Reed unit organ. > > A VINTAGE Wicks from BEFORE the "Screech and Squawk" era CAN be not-bad. > Enlarging that IN THE STYLE could make a decent organ. But you need > somebody who knows what they're DOING. The pendulum seems to be swinging > back at Wicks now that their Tonal Director has retired. Perhaps they > should be contacted FIRST. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Looking for a hymn From: "Joe Elliffe" <jelli@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:35:25 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0019_01C2D5F2.8DC38C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi Can anyone possible email me a copy of "O God of light, the dawning =3D day"by James Quinn SO.I. and tell me where I can purchase same I need it for a service on Thursday. Thanks Joe     ------=3D_NextPart_000_0019_01C2D5F2.8DC38C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2716.2200" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;Can anyone possible email me a = =3D copy of "O God=3D20 of light, the dawning day"by James Quinn SO.I. and tell me where I can =3D purchase=3D20 same</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I need it for a service on =3D Thursday.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Joe</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0019_01C2D5F2.8DC38C40--      
(back) Subject: Robin Williams' Top Ten reasons to be Episcopalian From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 20:08:49 -0500   Robin Williams' Top Ten reasons to be Episcopalian   10. No snake handling. 9. You can believe in dinosaurs. 8. Male and female God created them; male and female we ordain them. 7. You don't have to check your brains at the door. 6. Pew aerobics. 5. Church year is color-coded. 4. Free wine on Sunday. 3. All of the pageantry - none of the guilt. 2. You don't have to know how to swim to get baptized. .....and the #1 reason to be Episcopalian: 1. No matter what you believe, there's bound to be at least one other = Episcopalian who agrees with you.   Merry Foxworth   =B4=A8=A8)) -:=A6:- =B8.=B7=B4 .=B7=B4=A8=A8)) ((=B8=B8.=B7=B4 ..=B7=B4 -:=A6:-   An excerpt from Robert Giddings "Musical Quotes and Anecdotes", published in Longman Pocket Companions: "There let the pealing organ blow, To the full-voiced choir below, In service high, and anthems clear, As may with sweetness, through mine ear, Dissolve me into ecstasies, And bring all Heav'n before mine eyes". John Milton - Il Penseroso (1632).   http://ibo.bww.com/foxworth password: foxy    
(back) Subject: books for exchange From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:50:18 +1300   Dear List,   I have some spare organ books I'd like to swop for new or used pipe organ CDs or even tapes if in good order, classic or theatre. Has anyone any offers? Email me privately if you have.   1. "The Organ", W.L.Sumner, 2nd ed., Aug.1955, 2nd impression Jan.1958.   2. ditto, 3rd.ed., April 1962   3. ditto, still in dust cover   4. Organ building & Design, P-G Andersen, 1969, in English   The above all in very good order indeed. The following absolutely brand-new -   1. Organum Novum Redivivum, Hans Kriek, 1981, being text plus 115 plates = and specifications, in Dutch   2-3. Visitatio Organorum, Vols.1 & 2, M.A.Vente, 1981, in various = languages incl.English, French, German & Dutch, comprising learned essays from a = host of authors   Anyone interested and with suggestions to make, please email me privately.   Ross    
(back) Subject: Re: Glass/Plastic Music racks and 5-Manual Organs From: "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:53:04 -0800   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0009_01C2D5E4.412E7A60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable     ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: RonSeverin@aol.com=3D20     >Ruth Barrett long at the Mother Church, Boston, had =3DC6olian >Skinner remove the fifth manual because of the reach, and she >wasn't short either. A box shaped shunt fills that space even today. >She was the wife of the great Phelps who designed the organ >for =3DC6olian Skinner. The stops for that manual are floated with >couplers to the other four.     It's always possible I don't know what I'm talking about, but I've =3D never heard that the Mother Church organ ever had a fifth manual. I did = =3D play it some years ago, and to my mind a fifth manual might be useful. =3D The sheer size of the instrument plus the double divisions =3D (Great/Haputwerk, Choir/Postiiv, Solo/Bombarde) make it a most =3D un-intuitive console to deal with.   Parenthetically, those who argue for three manuals as the useful =3D maximum may have not tried to cope with a really large 3m -- Trinity =3D Boston, with back and front divisions on each manual is a nightmare for = =3D a visiting organist. You pretty much have to play it with pistons and =3D planning. (I don't doubt that Brian Jones can use it effectively from =3D long familiarity, but woe betide a stranger trying to figure out what to = =3D couple where.)   And a second parenthesis re the Mother Church: I utterly reject the =3D thinking behind adding two digital 32's to a 237-rank instrument. If =3D "there wasn't room" for pipes, ditch a useless division or two and make = =3D room.   Michael Fox   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0009_01C2D5E4.412E7A60 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DTahoma size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DRonSeverin@aol.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:RonSeverin@aol.com">RonSeverin@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2 =3D   FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2 =3D   FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2 =3D   FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">&gt;Ruth Barrett long at the Mother Church, =3D Boston, had=3D20 =3DC6olian<BR>&gt;Skinner remove the fifth manual because of the reach, = =3D and=3D20 she<BR>&gt;wasn't short either. A box shaped shunt fills that space =3D even=3D20 today.<BR>&gt;She was the wife of the great Phelps who designed the=3D20 organ<BR>&gt;for =3DC6olian Skinner. The stops for that manual are =3D floated=3D20 with<BR>&gt;couplers to the other four.<BR><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2 =3D   FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"><FONT face=3D3DTahoma>It's&nbsp;always possible I = =3D don't=3D20 know&nbsp;what I'm talking about, but I've never heard that the Mother = =3D Church=3D20 organ ever had a fifth manual. I did play it some years ago, and to my = =3D mind a=3D20 fifth manual might be useful. The sheer size of the instrument plus =3D the double=3D20 divisions (Great/Haputwerk, Choir/Postiiv, Solo/Bombarde) make it a =3D most=3D20 un-intuitive console to deal with.</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2 =3D   FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"><FONT =3D face=3D3DTahoma></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2 =3D   FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"><FONT face=3D3DTahoma>Parenthetically, those who = =3D argue for=3D20 three manuals as the useful maximum may have not tried to cope with a = =3D really=3D20 large 3m -- Trinity Boston, with back and front divisions on each =3D manual is a=3D20 nightmare for a visiting organist. You pretty much have to play it =3D with=3D20 pistons and planning. (I don't doubt that Brian Jones can use it =3D effectively=3D20 from long familiarity, but woe betide a stranger trying to figure out = =3D what to=3D20 couple where.)</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2 =3D   FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"><FONT =3D face=3D3DTahoma></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2 =3D   FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"><FONT face=3D3DTahoma>And a second parenthesis re = =3D the Mother=3D20 Church: I utterly reject the thinking behind adding two digital 32's =3D to a=3D20 237-rank instrument. If "there wasn't room" for pipes, ditch a useless = =3D   division or two and make room.</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2 =3D   FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"><FONT =3D face=3D3DTahoma></FONT></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2 =3D   FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"><FONT face=3D3DTahoma>Michael =3D Fox</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial = size=3D3D2 =3D   =3D FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML= =3D >   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0009_01C2D5E4.412E7A60--    
(back) Subject: Organ in a recent movie From: <Pologaptommy@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:09:50 EST     --part1_167.1bd82923.2b819e6e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi List, this might be a little off topic, but it does have to do with pipe organs.   Friday night I went with a friend to see a movie, and she just HAD to see = the new movie "DareDevil". I wasn't a big fan of the whole movie plot, but = then I wasn't expecting much anyway. But several scenes in the movie took place in a large Cathedral in New = York, with a couple different views of the organ console. One of the main scenes included the main character "DareDevil", and his = enemy fighting in the organ chamber, while destroying the huge organ pipes and smashing stained glass windows. Don't worry, they were obviously fake = pipes. While I would rather see a movie to where they are building an organ, = rather than tearing it apart, I am still interested to know what Cathedral those scenes took place in. The organ appeared to reside in the rear gallery, = with the console facing the chancel. There were several shots of the organ facade in the background during the movie, but I am not sure if the facade in those scenes were the real Cathedral organ, or a facade built by the set crew. I imagine that the actual fight scene in the organ chamber was acted on stage. Does anyone know what Cathedral? Does anyone know anything about the = organ there? Thanks, Josh   --part1_167.1bd82923.2b819e6e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>Hi List,=3D20 <BR>this might be a little off topic, but it does have to do with pipe = organ=3D s. <BR> <BR>Friday night I went with a friend to see a movie, and she just HAD to = se=3D e the new movie "DareDevil". &nbsp;I wasn't a big fan of the whole movie = plo=3D t, but then I wasn't expecting much anyway. &nbsp; <BR>But several scenes in the movie took place in a large Cathedral in New = Y=3D ork, with a couple different views of the organ console. &nbsp; <BR>One of the main scenes included the main character "DareDevil", and = his=3D20=3D enemy fighting in the organ chamber, while destroying the huge organ pipes = a=3D nd smashing stained glass windows. &nbsp;Don't worry, they were obviously = fa=3D ke pipes. &nbsp;While I would rather see a movie to where they are = building=3D20=3D an organ, rather than tearing it apart, I am still interested to know what = C=3D athedral those scenes took place in. &nbsp;The organ appeared to reside in = t=3D he rear gallery, with the console facing the chancel. &nbsp; <BR>There were several shots of the organ facade in the background during = th=3D e movie, but I am not sure if the facade in those scenes were the real = Cathe=3D dral organ, or a facade built by the set crew. &nbsp;I imagine that the = actu=3D al fight scene in the organ chamber was acted on stage. <BR>Does anyone know what Cathedral? &nbsp;Does anyone know anything about = t=3D he organ there? <BR>Thanks, <BR>Josh</FONT></HTML>   --part1_167.1bd82923.2b819e6e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Glass/Plastic Music racks and 5-Manual Organs From: "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:16:25 -0500   Am I right that "plastic" music racks are made of very hard, dense = material called lexan?   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA  
(back) Subject: Re: Looking for a hymn From: "Bonnie Beth Derby" <orge@dreamscape.com> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 21:34:34 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0015_01C2D603.328EA3D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi Joe,   I looked in around ten different hymnals including Hymnal 1940, Worship, = =3D Gather, The Presbyterian Hymnal, The Lutheran Book of Worship, Lift =3D Every Voice and Sing, The English Hymnal, Choral Praise, The Christian =3D Scientist Hymnal, Hymns for Today's Church, and Hymnal for College and =3D Schools but no luck. =3D20 =3D20 Bonnie Beth Derby orge@dreamscape.com   ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Joe Elliffe=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 7:35 PM Subject: Looking for a hymn     Hi Can anyone possible email me a copy of "O God of light, the dawning =3D day"by James Quinn SO.I. and tell me where I can purchase same I need it for a service on Thursday. Thanks Joe     ------=3D_NextPart_000_0015_01C2D603.328EA3D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4807.2300" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi Joe,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I looked in around ten different =3D hymnals including=3D20 <EM>Hymnal 1940</EM>, <EM>Worship, Gather, The Presbyterian Hymnal, The = =3D Lutheran=3D20 Book of Worship, Lift Every Voice and Sing, The English Hymnal, Choral =3D Praise,=3D20 The Christian Scientist Hymnal, Hymns for Today's Church, </EM>and =3D <EM>Hymnal=3D20 for College and Schools</EM> but no luck.&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Bonnie Beth Derby</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:orge@dreamscape.com">orge@dreamscape.com</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3D3Dltr=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Djelli@tampabay.rr.com =3D href=3D3D"mailto:jelli@tampabay.rr.com">Joe=3D20 Elliffe</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 16, 2003 = =3D 7:35=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Looking for a =3D hymn</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;Can anyone possible email me = a =3D copy of "O=3D20 God of light, the dawning day"by James Quinn SO.I. and tell me where I = =3D can=3D20 purchase same</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I need it for a service on =3D Thursday.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Joe</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0015_01C2D603.328EA3D0--