PipeChat Digest #3498 - Tuesday, February 25, 2003
 
Re: FBC Jackson MS
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: FBC Jackson MS
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: FBC Jackson MS
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
KEATES-GEISLER
  by "D. Keith Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com>
RE: 6 manual organs
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
Re: KEATES-GEISLER
  by "Joshua Edwards" <organman@cablenet-va.com>
Re: 6 manual organs
  by "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu>
A Fake -Misinformation from the US Government
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com>
Re: allen organ series
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: 6 manual organs
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: KEATES-GEISLER
  by "DFH" <lukascb2@attbi.com>
X-Posted -- Rite help!
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net>
Re: KEATES-GEISLER
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: KEATES-GEISLER
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: X-Posted -- Rite help!
  by "MediaConstituents" <kealypaul@yahoo.com>
Re: KEATES-GEISLER
  by "D. Keith Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: FBC Jackson MS From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:41:17 -0600     ----- Original Message ----- From: "D. Keith Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:21 PM Subject: Re: FBC Jackson MS     > I saw that Keates-Geisler monstrosity a few years ago. > They claimed that it had 231 ranks of pipes.   We took it out in the worst heat of last summer and I can assure you it = was 231 ranks. Over one hundred of the ranks were mixtures. The whole instrument was not only completely buried in the chambers but was = relatively lightly voiced on low pressures, which in part explains why it sounded = less than stellar.   I didn't see anything in > there that remotely resembled a Skinner organ.   While it might have been hard to recognize it, at least forty ranks of it were indeed by Skinner, from the previous organ in the church. As I mentioned there was also a good deal of Casavant pipework, thought to have all been from the Royal York Hotel in Toronto. Subsequent examination has shown that while most of the pipework is from the Jackson Skinner and = Royal York Casavant, there is also quite a bit of pipework from at least two = other Casavant organs. All this is recognizable from the distinctive Skinner = and Casavant construction of the pipes and from the opus numbers stamped on = the pipes, although much of it had been revoiced and would not have been recognizable from the sound.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: FBC Jackson MS From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:46:56 -0600     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Edwards" <organman@cablenet-va.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: Re: FBC Jackson MS     > John, > > Just wondering, but why are they scaling down in size?   Because if properly scaled and voiced, which we hope it will be, 5/155 should be perfectly adequate. What the building needs is some decent = basses rather than the 100+ ranks of mixtures on the previous instrument.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: FBC Jackson MS From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:06:18 -0500   At 07:41 PM 2/24/2003 -0600, you wrote:   >----- Original Message ----- >From: "D. Keith Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com> >To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:21 PM >Subject: Re: FBC Jackson MS > > > > I saw that Keates-Geisler monstrosity a few years ago. > > They claimed that it had 231 ranks of pipes. > >We took it out in the worst heat of last summer and I can assure you it = was >231 ranks. Over one hundred of the ranks were mixtures. The whole >instrument was not only completely buried in the chambers but was = relatively >lightly voiced on low pressures, which in part explains why it sounded = less >than stellar. > >I didn't see anything in > > there that remotely resembled a Skinner organ. > >While it might have been hard to recognize it, at least forty ranks of it >were indeed by Skinner, from the previous organ in the church. As I >mentioned there was also a good deal of Casavant pipework, thought to = have >all been from the Royal York Hotel in Toronto. Subsequent examination = has >shown that while most of the pipework is from the Jackson Skinner and = Royal >York Casavant, there is also quite a bit of pipework from at least two = other >Casavant organs. All this is recognizable from the distinctive Skinner = and >Casavant construction of the pipes and from the opus numbers stamped on = the >pipes, although much of it had been revoiced and would not have been >recognizable from the sound. > >John Speller     John and list,   The Keates-Geissler Company, did 2 huge organs in the U.S. One was in Jackson, the topic of discussion, the other one is one Dallas (or was in Dallas). I know for a fact the between those 2 organs, they used the resources of 2 Casavants. The organs used was the Royal York, ( from the big Hotel in Toronto), the other one was from the Eaton Auditorium. What went where I don't know. I know too, one was put in in the 80s the other in the early 90s.   It doesn't surprise me that this big organ in Jackson didn't work out very =   well. Most of their work in Ontario was not all that good either. (at least from a tonal point of view). It seems to me that a lot of what they =   did was low budget stuff, and consequently they could not, or would not = put in the effort of doing really good work. Does this sound familiar?   I remember being in their shop once, and they had a 5 manual console under =   construction. It was huge, and looked quite nice.   Arie V.      
(back) Subject: KEATES-GEISLER From: "D. Keith Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 18:49:21 -0800 (PST)   This character Edgar Morrison hooked five Southern Baptist Churches with these Keates-Geisler concoctions: 1. First Baptist Church, Dallas, Texas 2. First Baptist Church, Jackson Mississippi (This church got taken TWICE. They have one in the chapel.) 3. Dauphin Way Baptist Church, Mobile, Alabama 4. Cottage Hill Baptist Church, Mobile, Alabama 5. Shades Mountain Baptist Church, Birmingham, Alabama.   All of these organs were 5-manual monstrosities except Cottage Hill. That one had only four.   Some time back, I sent a copy of a newspaper article to PIPEORG-L describing the lawsuit filed by the two Mobile churches against Edgar Morrison, and how the FBI got into the matter. Edgar Morrison ended up in the penitentiary for this.   I attended two dedicatory recitals - one in Jackson which was played by Diane Bish. I have never heard an organ cipher so much in EVERY PIECE. That thing must have ciphered 50 times during that program.   I attended the dedicatory program played by Joyce Jones at the Dauphin Way Church in Mobile. The fourth manual was entirely digital. The rest of the organ was under winded and the blower was too small. When full organ was played, the pipes went flat; the digital part did not. That was the experience of a lifetime to hear that.   After seeing three of these farces, I have come to the conclusion that some people really enjoy being screwed. Whenever you place your hand on a hot stove and get burned, you -- and everyone who saw the incident -- have sense enough to keep your hands away in the future. One time is believable, BUT FIVE?!!!   D. Keith Morgan   __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: RE: 6 manual organs From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:55:24 -0500   Alan Freed proffers:   > are Salzburg and Passau also possibilities? Not Weingarten Abbey, I think. Just nominating possibilities without knowing what I'm talking about   Nope, it's not Weingarten (which is an old Gabler organ in rear gallery, very complex casework and action but basically in one place). He did = record the Mozart K.608 in Passau Cathedral in his complete Mozart album (back = when it was still a Steinmeyer), but that isn't what I have in mind. At least part of the organ was new. Could it be Freiburg (there are several Freiburgs)?       > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Freed [SMTP:acfreed0904@earthlink.net] > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:07 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: 6 manual organs > > On 2/24/03 6:11 PM, "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> wrote: > > > E. Power Biggs once recorded on a cathedral in Germany with several > organs > > playable from a single console. > > > > I remember vaguely that some of the work, at least, was by Klais. Or = was > > this it? > > > I think you're on the right track. But in case that trail goes blank, = are > Salzburg and Passau also possibilities? Not Weingarten Abbey, I think. > Just nominating possibilities without knowing what I'm talking about. > > Alan > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: KEATES-GEISLER From: "Joshua Edwards" <organman@cablenet-va.com> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:01:29 -0500   Pretty amazing these were all Baptist Churches too! Why does it always have to be the Baptists that fall for the dupes?   Joshua Edwards Interim Director of Music Thaxton Baptist Church Bedford, VA   D. Keith Morgan wrote:   >This character Edgar Morrison hooked five Southern >Baptist Churches with these Keates-Geisler >concoctions: > 1. First Baptist Church, Dallas, Texas > 2. First Baptist Church, Jackson Mississippi > (This church got taken TWICE. They have one > in the chapel.) > 3. Dauphin Way Baptist Church, Mobile, Alabama > 4. Cottage Hill Baptist Church, Mobile, Alabama > 5. Shades Mountain Baptist Church, Birmingham, > Alabama. > >All of these organs were 5-manual monstrosities except >Cottage Hill. That one had only four. > >Some time back, I sent a copy of a newspaper article >to PIPEORG-L describing the lawsuit filed by the two >Mobile churches against Edgar Morrison, and how the >FBI got into the matter. Edgar Morrison ended up in >the penitentiary for this. > >I attended two dedicatory recitals - one in Jackson >which was played by Diane Bish. I have never heard an >organ cipher so much in EVERY PIECE. That thing must >have ciphered 50 times during that program. > >I attended the dedicatory program played by Joyce >Jones at the Dauphin Way Church in Mobile. The fourth >manual was entirely digital. The rest of the organ >was under winded and the blower was too small. When >full organ was played, the pipes went flat; the >digital part did not. That was the experience of a >lifetime to hear that. > >After seeing three of these farces, I have come to the >conclusion that some people really enjoy being >screwed. Whenever you place your hand on a hot stove >and get burned, you -- and everyone who saw the >incident -- have sense enough to keep your hands away >in the future. One time is believable, BUT FIVE?!!! > >D. Keith Morgan > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more >http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: 6 manual organs From: "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:20:57 -0700       "Emmons, Paul" wrote: > > > Andres Gunther writes: > > > > The Dom in Mainz has four sections, and each one works > > as an individual organ. All can be played together > > from a central console with 6 manuals. > > E. Power Biggs once recorded on a cathedral in Germany with several = organs > playable from a single console. > > I remember vaguely that some of the work, at least, was by Klais. Or was > this it? > >The cathedral in question is in Freiburg. Two organs are by Rieger and there are two others. The main organ is in a unique placement partially in a side gallery at the crossing but sited so that it can speak down the = nave. The second Rieger is a choir organ. The other two organs are older = instruments, one in a swallows nest position on the south side wall of the nave and the fourth organ in a rear gallery. There is a console from which all four can be = played.     Of considerable visual interest are the five organs in the cathedral in = Salzburg. Four of them are located around the crossing in four small galleries at = the intersections of the nave, choir and transepts. The main organ is in the traditional west end location.   Del W. Case Pacific Union College  
(back) Subject: A Fake -Misinformation from the US Government From: "Stanley Lowkis" <nstarfil@attbi.com> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:40:47 -0500   OFF Topic for all my lists, but this deliberate misinformation is part of the war campaign. Please get wound up in that rhetoric for a moment and evaluate.   And Decide Who gets Fired in Washington?   A letter home from a Marine with the multinational force in well crafted- similar rhetoric could justify bombing Vatican City. "Well, the offences of the Inqisition have never been addressed" Let's bomb Iraq and end any threat of nations bombing other nations.   Some people really believe this stuff..Is it Drugs or Rush Limbaugh?     >> Bosnia >> >> Dear Dad, >> >> A funny thing happened to me yesterday at Camp Bondsteel >> (Bosnia): A French army officer walked up to me in the PX, >> and told me he thought we (Americans) were a bunch of cowboys >> and were going to provoke a war in Iraq. He said if such a >> thing happens, we wouldn't be able to count on the support of >> France. >> >> I told him that it didn't surprise me. Since we had come to >> France's rescue in World War I, World War II, Vietnam, and >> the Cold War, their ingratitude and jealousy was due to >> surface, again, at some point in the near future anyway. >> >> I also told him that is why France is a third-rate military >> power with a socialist economy and a bunch of faggots for >> soldiers. I additionally told him that America, being a >> nation of deeds and action, not words, would do whatever it >> had to do, and France's support, if it ever came, was only >> for show anyway. >> >> Just like in ALL NATO exercises, the US would shoulder >> 85% of the burden, and provide 85% of the support, as >> evidenced by the fact that this French officer was shopping >> in the American PX, and not the other way around. >> >> He began to get belligerent at that point, and I told him if >> he would like to, I would meet him outside in front of the >> Burger King and whip his ass in front of the entire Multi- >> National Brigade East, thus demonstrating that even the >> smallest American had more fight in him than the average >> Frenchman. >> >> He called me a barbarian cowboy and walked away in a huff. >> >> With friends like these, who needs enemies? >> >> Dad, tell Mom I love her, >> >> Your loving daughter >> >> Mary Beth >> ( last name, Johnson, LtCol, USMC) >> > > >    
(back) Subject: Re: allen organ series From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:56:21 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0044_01C2DC57.F2AA2EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Dear Dick, You can get that list from the Yahoo allen organ owners list on =3D Yahoo Paul ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: RSiegel920@aol.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:40 PM Subject: Re: allen organ series     I can recall several years ago a posting (on this list I think) which = =3D gave a chronological listing of the various series/generations of organs = =3D manufactured by Allen. Try as I may I cannot find that posting or a site = =3D with that info. Any help and/or direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and regards :) Dick Siegel=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0044_01C2DC57.F2AA2EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dear Dick,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You can get = =3D that list from=3D20 the Yahoo allen organ owners list on Yahoo</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= =3D p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp= =3D ;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= =3D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 Paul</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DRSiegel920@aol.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:RSiegel920@aol.com">RSiegel920@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, February 24, 2003 = =3D 7:40=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: allen organ =3D series</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 =3D face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">I can recall several years ago a posting (on this = =3D list I=3D20 think) which gave a chronological listing of the various =3D series/generations of=3D20 organs manufactured by Allen. Try as I may I cannot find that posting = =3D or a=3D20 site with that info. Any help and/or direction would be greatly=3D20 appreciated.<BR>Thanks and regards :)<BR>Dick Siegel=3D20 </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0044_01C2DC57.F2AA2EA0--    
(back) Subject: Re: 6 manual organs From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 22:59:33 -0500   Dear Paul, That was Freiburg Cathedral, Germany. I have the tape.There are four organs which can be played from one console. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 6:11 PM Subject: RE: 6 manual organs     > > Andres Gunther writes: > > > > The Dom in Mainz has four sections, and each one works > > as an individual organ. All can be played together > > from a central console with 6 manuals. > > E. Power Biggs once recorded on a cathedral in Germany with several = organs > playable from a single console. > > I remember vaguely that some of the work, at least, was by Klais. Or was > this it? > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: KEATES-GEISLER From: "DFH" <lukascb2@attbi.com> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:04:14 -0500   Found this link with a picturem of the console and specifications of the = MS organ   http://www.musicbase.org/organ/keates/4.html       ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Edwards" <organman@cablenet-va.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:01 PM Subject: Re: KEATES-GEISLER     > Pretty amazing these were all Baptist Churches too! Why does it always > have to be the Baptists that fall for the dupes? > > Joshua Edwards > Interim Director of Music > Thaxton Baptist Church > Bedford, VA > > D. Keith Morgan wrote: > > >This character Edgar Morrison hooked five Southern > >Baptist Churches with these Keates-Geisler > >concoctions: > > 1. First Baptist Church, Dallas, Texas > > 2. First Baptist Church, Jackson Mississippi > > (This church got taken TWICE. They have one > > in the chapel.) > > 3. Dauphin Way Baptist Church, Mobile, Alabama > > 4. Cottage Hill Baptist Church, Mobile, Alabama > > 5. Shades Mountain Baptist Church, Birmingham, > > Alabama. > > > >All of these organs were 5-manual monstrosities except > >Cottage Hill. That one had only four. > > > >Some time back, I sent a copy of a newspaper article > >to PIPEORG-L describing the lawsuit filed by the two > >Mobile churches against Edgar Morrison, and how the > >FBI got into the matter. Edgar Morrison ended up in > >the penitentiary for this. > > > >I attended two dedicatory recitals - one in Jackson > >which was played by Diane Bish. I have never heard an > >organ cipher so much in EVERY PIECE. That thing must > >have ciphered 50 times during that program. > > > >I attended the dedicatory program played by Joyce > >Jones at the Dauphin Way Church in Mobile. The fourth > >manual was entirely digital. The rest of the organ > >was under winded and the blower was too small. When > >full organ was played, the pipes went flat; the > >digital part did not. That was the experience of a > >lifetime to hear that. > > > >After seeing three of these farces, I have come to the > >conclusion that some people really enjoy being > >screwed. Whenever you place your hand on a hot stove > >and get burned, you -- and everyone who saw the > >incident -- have sense enough to keep your hands away > >in the future. One time is believable, BUT FIVE?!!! > > > >D. Keith Morgan > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > >http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: X-Posted -- Rite help! From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 23:20:08 -0600   I need to have the rite of dedication for church furnishings, but I do not have access to the minister's edition that has that in it. Does anyone = have a version that would work that they could please email me (offlist is = fine)? This is for an ELCA church, but I can pretty much make do with whatever is handy.   We replaced the pews in our choir "loft" with chairs, and Pastor wants to dedicate them this Sunday.   Thanks in advance! Jeff    
(back) Subject: Re: KEATES-GEISLER From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:28:26 EST     --part1_15.b266d52.2b8c58fa_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 2/24/03 9:50:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com writes:     > Whenever you place your hand on a hot stove > and get burned, you -- and everyone who saw the > incident -- have sense enough to keep your hands away > in the future.   But Keith! After you've burned hour hand on a hot stove burner, there = are still at least THREE burners and an oven left. heeheehee   Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502     --part1_15.b266d52.2b8c58fa_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>In a message dated = 2/24/0=3D 3 9:50:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Whenever you place your = han=3D d on a hot stove <BR>and get burned, you -- and everyone who saw the <BR>incident -- have sense enough to keep your hands away <BR>in the future. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 = FAMILY=3D3D"=3D SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR>But Keith! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;After you've burned hour hand on a hot = stov=3D e burner, there are still at least THREE burners and an oven left. = &nbsp;&nb=3D sp;heeheehee <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Ac=3D res http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_15.b266d52.2b8c58fa_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: KEATES-GEISLER From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 00:38:45 EST     --part1_bf.2eaa4162.2b8c5b65_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 2/24/03 11:04:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, lukascb2@attbi.com writes:     > http://www.musicbase.org/organ/keates/4.html   How exciting...   On the Positiv division there is a 4/5' Bunte Zimbel V 405 Pipes. = Is that one of those zimbels with the the pipes planted in a circle! ;-) = ???   Hmmm.... for some reason I want a piece of cake! ;-)     Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502     --part1_bf.2eaa4162.2b8c5b65_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>In a message dated = 2/24/0=3D 3 11:04:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, lukascb2@attbi.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px">http://www.musicbase.org/or=3D gan/keates/4.html</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERI=3D F" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR>How exciting... &nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>On the Positiv division there &nbsp;is a 4/5' Bunte Zimbel V 405 = Pip=3D es. &nbsp;&nbsp;Is that one of those zimbels with the the pipes planted in = a=3D circle! &nbsp;&nbsp;;-) &nbsp;??? <BR> <BR>Hmmm.... for some reason I want a piece of cake! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Ac=3D res http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_bf.2eaa4162.2b8c5b65_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: X-Posted -- Rite help! From: "MediaConstituents" <kealypaul@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:48:24 -0800 (PST)   There is a dedication of furnishings and gifts at the altara "Beating of the Bounds" (based on Episcopalian ritual) in _Simple Solutions for Special Services_ that may do the trick. I could send you the appropriate chapter, if you're interested.   ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Paul E. Kealy   __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: KEATES-GEISLER From: "D. Keith Morgan" <aeolian_skinner@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:49:42 -0800 (PST)   Damfino.     --- Cremona502@cs.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/24/03 11:04:39 PM Eastern > Standard Time, > lukascb2@attbi.com writes: > > > > http://www.musicbase.org/organ/keates/4.html > > How exciting... > > On the Positiv division there is a 4/5' Bunte > Zimbel V 405 Pipes. Is > that one of those zimbels with the the pipes planted > in a circle! ;-) ??? > > Hmmm.... for some reason I want a piece of cake! > ;-) > > > Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the > Muttastery at Howling Acres > http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 > >     __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/