PipeChat Digest #3348 - Wednesday, January 1, 2003
 
Re: OFF-TOPIC: dumbing down and newspapers
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Blooper
  by "r" <basset3@hvc.rr.com>
"festive music"
  by "Lowell Johnson" <ljohn1247@msn.com>
Re: REPERTOIRE SUGGESTIONS
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@EARTHLINK.net>
RE: REPERTOIRE SUGGESTIONS
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: "festive music"
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Blooper
  by "John Seboldt" <rohrwerk@seboldt.net>
Re: adequate lighting
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: PipeChat Digest #3345 - 01/01/03
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
Re: Blooper
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
Test
  by "Lowell Johnson" <ljohn1247@msn.com>
Subjunctive verbs
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Blooper
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Adjustable organ bench?
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Subjunctive verbs
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: The attack
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Adjustable organ bench?
  by "Jim Hailey" <jhaileya10@charter.net>
Re: adequate lighting
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: adequate lighting
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: adequate lighting
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: OFF-TOPIC: dumbing down and newspapers From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 19:46:09 EST     --part1_36.3549fa75.2b439451_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I used to work with a preacher who was a normal, midwestern, boaring, = white male with a wife, kids, and dog at a predominantly white church (99.8%) = When the climax of the sermon came around he would always say, "and then GAAAWWWWWWD blah blah...............it was GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Like he suddenly grew up in Mississippi or something. Then it was instantly right back to the Mr. Everything is Wonderful suburban white guy pastor. It always made me = wonder a little... Happy New Year, Gregory   --part1_36.3549fa75.2b439451_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">I used to work with a preacher who was = a normal, midwestern, boaring, white male with a wife, kids, and dog at a = predominantly white church (99.8%) When the climax of the sermon came = around he would always say, "and then GAAAWWWWWWD blah = blah...............it was GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"&nbsp; Like = he suddenly grew up in Mississippi or something.&nbsp; Then it was = instantly right back to the Mr. Everything is Wonderful suburban white guy = pastor.&nbsp; It always made me wonder a little...<BR> Happy New Year,<BR> Gregory</FONT></HTML>   --part1_36.3549fa75.2b439451_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Blooper From: "r" <basset3@hvc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 19:12:36 -0500   As long as we are on this . . . On a menu at the Interchurch Center across from The Riverside Church circa 1984: Chicken Catch-a-Tory Quick Lorraine Apple Pie a la Mood Pigs Feet Trottin' on Rice Cream Bruly Robert MacDonald was resident organist at the time. (That made it organ-related.) Robert Clooney ----- Original Message ----- From: <lindr@cch.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 4:50 PM Subject: Re: Blooper     > > That's wonderful--and probably long overdue! > > I can remember carefully going over the spelling of an RVW piece with a > bride, even pointing out the pitfall, and we still got "Rhosymerde" in = the > printed program--to say nothing of Pachelbel's "Cannon." > > RJL > > > > > Dear List: > > Speaking of bloopers, one of the churches where I > service the organ recently printed in their bulletin: > > Anthem: Cesar Franck's Penis Angelicus. > > Let's see someone top that one! > > D. Keith Morgan > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: "festive music" From: "Lowell Johnson" <ljohn1247@msn.com> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 17:54:08 -0600     ------=3D_NextPart_001_0001_01C2B0F5.9E369AD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Let us assume that several months ago the minister of XX XX Church = starte=3D d talking about having "more festive music" next year. A few months = late=3D r he forces the resignation of both the choir director and the organist. = =3D These two professionals are well loved by the congregation and the = choir=3D .. The music program has been traditional classical.   Do you think that "festive" is new terminology for praise music?   Lowell   PS I hope this message is going out in plain text and not html. =3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_001_0001_01C2B0F5.9E369AD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><BODY STYLE=3D3D"font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Let us assume = =3D that several months ago the&nbsp;minister of XX XX Church&nbsp;started = ta=3D lking about having "more festive music" next year.&nbsp; A few months = lat=3D er he forces the resignation of both the choir director and the = organist.=3D &nbsp; These two professionals are well loved by the congregation and = the=3D choir.&nbsp; The music program has been traditional classical.</DIV> = <DI=3D V>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Do you think that "festive" is new terminology for = pr=3D aise music?</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Lowell</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> = <=3D DIV>PS&nbsp; I hope this message is going out in plain text and not = html.=3D </DIV> <DIV>&nbsp; <BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_001_0001_01C2B0F5.9E369AD0--  
(back) Subject: Re: REPERTOIRE SUGGESTIONS From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@EARTHLINK.net> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 20:43:12 -0500   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --B_3124212193_1871099 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   On 12/31/02 6:29 PM, "Cremona502@cs.com" <Cremona502@cs.com> wrote:   > If you highlight it, it will turn another color. On my machine it = turns > black, but you can also change the color with your email program. >=3D20 Bruce, I HAVE had that work, wonderfully, many times. But now, it seems = to work less than it used to. I=3DB9m sure it=3DB9s my fault, but Greg has = now corrected it at his end, which I appreciate.   Alan       --B_3124212193_1871099 Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: REPERTOIRE SUGGESTIONS</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">On 12/31/02 6:29 PM, = &quot;Cremona502@cs.com&q=3D uot; &lt;Cremona502@cs.com&gt; wrote:<BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">If you highlight it, = it wil=3D l turn another color. &nbsp;&nbsp;On my machine it turns black, but you = can =3D also change the color with your email program. <BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman"><FONT = SIZE=3D3D"5"><BR> </FONT>Bruce, I HAVE had that work, wonderfully, many times. &nbsp;But = now,=3D it seems to work less than it used to. &nbsp;I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s my = f=3D ault, but Greg has now corrected it at his end, which I appreciate.<BR> <BR> Alan<BR> <BR> </FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --B_3124212193_1871099--    
(back) Subject: RE: REPERTOIRE SUGGESTIONS From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 18:57:07 -0600   I=92ve never looked at the score of the Vierne Clair de Lune, so you = would better know if it would fit. I think something meatier than the 24 pieces in free style is in order, although I love that music. How about the Adagio from the 3d symphony? I just printed that out from my new CD Sheet Music.   I think some Rheinberger, like the Sonata No. 1, or maybe the 8 or 9, would do nicely on this instrument. =20   If you=92re doing Mendelssohn on this instrument, I would lean more = toward Sonatas 4 or 5. No. 4 is not done that much, but would come off well with a warm instrument such as you describe.   How about some Arthur Foote (such as the Cantilena in G or the Canzonetta) or Horatio Parker (I=92m sorta fond of the Sonata in E = flat)? I don=92t know if there=92s enough organ for what John Knowles Paine = I=92m fond of =96 I like his big stuff.   Some wonderful music which no one hears nowadays is Bossi=92s Legende, = Op. 132, No. 1, which may sound nice with your oboe gamba, or the Landliche Szene, No. 3 from the same opus (the latter might not work, but I=92m foolish enough to try it). Both were originally copyrighted 1910.   I would love to hear you do something like the Bach Dorian T&F on a medium registration =96 it=92s always done so hugely.   Maybe you didn=92t want such a serious answer, but since my music is unpacked, I=92ve been so happy fondling it and reacquainting myself with my old friends. Hope it helps.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of ScottFop@aol.com =20 I am looking for program suggestions for a 1908 Moller tracker.=A0 The organ is 2 manuals and 16 ranks, completely and totally extant.=A0 The stoplist is as follows but I am forgetting one stop:   GREAT 8 Diapason, 8 Hohlflute, 8 Dulciana, 4 Octave, 4 Traverse Flute, Chimes   SWELL 16 Bourdon, 8 Violin Diapason, 8 Stopped Diapason, 8 Aeoline, 8 Voix Celeste,=20 4 Harmonic Flute, 2 Flautino, 8 Oboe-Gamba, Tremolo   PEDAL 16 Bourdon, 16 Lieblich Gedeckt   COUPLERS Great to Pedal, Swell to Pedal, Swell to Great, Swell Super to Great   The organ has a beautiful, broad tone and much character.=A0 It has been fully and sensitively restored even down to the stencilling, and is even still under pitch.=A0 It is at least 435, if not lower.=A0 <grin>   Anyway, what would one play on such an instrument as a well rounded program and something that would show off the resources of such a rare and beautiful example of period American organ building?          
(back) Subject: Re: "festive music" From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 16:00:19 -0500   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --B_3124281620_242311 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   On 12/31/02 6:54 PM, "Lowell Johnson" <ljohn1247@msn.com> wrote:   > Let us assume that several months ago the minister of XX XX Church = starte=3D d > talking about having "more festive music" next year. A few months later = =3D he > forces the resignation of both the choir director and the organist. = Thes=3D e two > professionals are well loved by the congregation and the choir. The = musi=3D c > program has been traditional classical. >=3D20 > =3D80=3D80=3D80And now it is what? > =3D20 > Do you think that "festive" is new terminology for praise music? >=3D20 > =3D80=3D80=3D80Tell him you=3DB9ll try to match the music to the = preaching; the more =3DB3fes=3D tive=3DB2 > he is, the more =3DB3festive=3DB2 you=3DB9ll (try to) be. > =3D20 > Lowell > =3D20 > PS I hope this message is going out in plain text and not html. > =3D20 > =3D80=3D80=3D80Flawless, Lowell, at this end. >=3D20 > Alan Freed >=3D20 >=3D20 >=3D20     --B_3124281620_242311 Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: &quot;festive music&quot;</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">On 12/31/02 6:54 PM, &quot;Lowell = Johnson&quot=3D ; &lt;ljohn1247@msn.com&gt; wrote:<BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">Let us assume that = several =3D months ago the minister of XX XX Church started talking about having = &quot;m=3D ore festive music&quot; next year. &nbsp;A few months later he forces the = re=3D signation of both the choir director and the organist. &nbsp;These two = profe=3D ssionals are well loved by the congregation and the choir. &nbsp;The music = p=3D rogram has been traditional classical.<BR> <BR> =3D80=3D80=3D80And now it is what?<BR> &nbsp;<BR> Do you think that &quot;festive&quot; is new terminology for praise = music?<=3D BR> <BR> =3D80=3D80=3D80Tell him you&#8217;ll try to match the music to the = preaching; the more =3D &#8220;festive&#8221; he is, the more &#8220;festive&#8221; you&#8217;ll = (tr=3D y to) be.<BR> &nbsp;<BR> Lowell<BR> &nbsp;<BR> PS &nbsp;I hope this message is going out in plain text and not html.<BR> &nbsp;<BR> =3D80=3D80=3D80Flawless, Lowell, at this end.<BR> <BR> Alan Freed<BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman"><BR> </FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --B_3124281620_242311--    
(back) Subject: Re: Blooper From: "John Seboldt" <rohrwerk@seboldt.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 16:18:00 -0600   At 01:08 PM 12/31/02 -0800, you wrote: >Dear List: > >Speaking of bloopers, one of the churches where I >service the organ recently printed in their bulletin: > >Anthem: Cesar Franck's Penis Angelicus.   Well, I often refer disparagingly to a commonly-requested pop song as = "Wind Between My Legs..." (at least with like-minded colleagues)... and that = once slipped out with a couple during a wedding consultation. Fortunately the most reaction I got was a funny look, and things went on.   John Seboldt Milwaukee    
(back) Subject: Re: adequate lighting From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 17:27:05 -0500   on 12/31/02 8:01 PM, Glenda at gksjd85@direcway.com wrote:   > I can't remember, Randy - is the console part of the ensemble or > free-standing? Could you use one of the weighted piano lamps on the > long stand? Is there a way to install a fluorescent stick (such as the > smaller under-counter lighting) at the bottom of the music stand to > reflect upward? Or maybe some tracker lighting from the ceiling? > > Glenda Sutton > gksjd85@direcway.com >   Hi, Glenda. The console is free-standing, in a rear balcony. I have a cantilevered lamp with a weighted base, but I'm not sure it's what one = would call a piano lamp. Anyway, from all the suggestions I received, for which = I am indeed grateful, the one I will try first is to tape some black felt to my present lamp to protect the choir's eyes. The German organ lamps are really cool, though. Did you check out that web site?   The flourescent light at the base of my music rack is too dim to do much good, and even if it were brighter would be blocked by the hymnal.   I remember that one of the Parisian organs I visited (I think it was Sainte-Clotilde) was well lit by two lamps from the wall behind the bench. But there is no wall behind my bench--just the balcony railing, which is only slightly higher than the bench. Funny it doesn't give me acrophobia. The most scary perch I've so far seen in that regard is the one at = Chartres, which someone recently accurately described as a swallow's nest on the = wall.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3345 - 01/01/03 From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 22:33:25 +0000   Hey Ross - I'm not getting at you I promise, but "you and I were...." is grammatically perfectly correct, as it is a plural structure. I was ..... you were .... It is also used in the subjunctive "If I were you ...." and = In the Bleak Midwinter : If I were a shepherd, poor as I am .... John Foss (Dip Ed (London)!!)     www.johnfoss.gr         _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/featuredemail    
(back) Subject: Re: Blooper From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 17:46:08 EST   In a message dated 1/1/03 5:17:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, rohrwerk@seboldt.net writes:   << Well, I often refer disparagingly to a commonly-requested pop song as "Wind Between My Legs..." (at least with like-minded colleagues)... and that = once slipped out with a couple during a wedding consultation. Fortunately the most reaction I got was a funny look, and things went on. >>   Speaking of wedding consultations, I used to play in a woodwind quintet, = and we were approached by a young woman who was thinking about having us play = at her outdoor ceremony. We invited her (and her mother) to a rehearsal so = she could get an idea of some of the music we could provide, and also for us = to find out exactly what she had in mind. She showed up, and we played = through some of the pieces we had done for other weddings, as well as = processionals and recessionals. The few pieces she had asked about we were able to put together. Then she asked if we know one piece in particular, but she = didn't know the name of it. She started singing the triplets from "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring" (something we had in our folders). Four of us went = digging for it, and the flutist said: "We have that, it's called "Jesu, Joy of = Man's Desiring." The bride-to-be asked again what the title was, and the flutist =   repeated the title for her. At which point the bride opined that she = didn't think that would be appropriate for her wedding. When she was asked why, = she replied: "Man's Desiring", isn't that........."sex"? (the last word whispered). We looked at each other for a few seconds, but couldn't = contain ourselves. We all broke out laughing at the same time.   We didn't play for that particular wedding.   Richard  
(back) Subject: Test From: "Lowell Johnson" <ljohn1247@msn.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 16:38:00 -0600   This is just a test to see if message is plain text or html.           _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/virus    
(back) Subject: Subjunctive verbs From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 18:41:33 -0500   On 1/1/03 5:33 PM, "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> wrote:   > If I were a shepherd, poor as I am ....   There's a line, I think from Rob't Burns, that my German teacher used to = use when discussing the subjective: "Would I a little apple were. . . ." = Boy, that's a pretty spare clue. But if anyone knows the line [or, "should anyone know the line"], it's a prize in this linguistic department.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Blooper From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 18:48:28 -0500   On 1/1/03 5:46 PM, "ContraReed@aol.com" <ContraReed@aol.com> wrote:   > "Man's Desiring", isn't that........."sex"? (the last word > whispered). We looked at each other for a few seconds, but couldn't = contain > ourselves. We all broke out laughing at the same time.   THAT is hilarious. God forbid that a wedding should have ANYthing to do with [[[sex]]]. Gawsh!   Alan (loving it)    
(back) Subject: Re: Adjustable organ bench? From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:48:35 EST   Organ Supply Industries, Erie Pennsylvania They recently built a custom Art Deco adjustable bench for us that is quite elegant. They also have stock models that are not customized, = and represent a smaller investment. I do not know if they sell to organists; you may have to go through = your organbuilder, who will help with matching finish samples and getting the right configuration for you.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Re: Subjunctive verbs From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 18:52:07 -0500   On 1/1/03 6:41 PM, "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> wrote:   > subjective   That's the trouble with reading one's own eloquent posts upon arrival = rather than before posting. "subjunctive," of course. Apologies. Thanks.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: The attack From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:53:03 EST   There are many factors involved. The greatest variance in pipe speech =   obviously comes on mechanical action organs, where there is a direct = linkage. If there are insufficiently thick toeboards on electropneumatic = actions, one might have different speech characteristics with reeds than flues. Mixing two different types of chest actions in the same organ can also = causes problems. Electric valve actions are frequently accused of having valve bounce problems, both opening and closing, which disrupt proper pipe = speech. Poorly designed mechanical actions, with the manuals coupled, can = cause one manual to speak before the other, or have different effects when = played through the couplers than through the home manual. Likewise, the yank of = a slider soundboard pallet by an electric action is more violent than one opened by finger pressure. This is easily demonstrated on mechanical = action pipe organs with a second, electric-action console.  
(back) Subject: Re: Adjustable organ bench? From: "Jim Hailey" <jhaileya10@charter.net> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:36:48 -0600   I played an organ with an adjustable, and quite frankly, they were more of = a hassle and their high cost justified.   Jim H.     ----- Original Message ----- From: <ctwomey@fcgnetworks.net> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: Adjustable organ bench?     > Hi Everyone, > > I'm thinking about purchasing an adjustable organ bench. Can anyone > suggest a source? > > Many thanks...and Happy New Year! > > Carol (the Lurker) > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: adequate lighting From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 19:42:09 EST     --part1_196.133cd046.2b44e4e1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/1/03 5:27:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes:     > I remember that one of the Parisian organs I visited (I think it was > Sainte-Clotilde) was well lit by two lamps from the wall behind the = bench. > But there is no wall behind my bench--just the balcony railing, which is > only slightly higher than the bench.   hmmmm.... a couple of twelve-branch candlabrum might be attractive just behind the bench, with an oriental altar table in between with coffee in silver service and some nice hors d'ouvres. I know it's not an Episcopal =   church, but.... ;--)   Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 check out <A = HREF=3D"http://www.visionsuccess.com/BC2053">Vision Success </A>       --part1_196.133cd046.2b44e4e1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 1/1/03 5:27:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I remember that = one of the Parisian organs I visited (I think it was <BR>Sainte-Clotilde) was well lit by two lamps from the wall behind the = bench. <BR>But there is no wall behind my bench--just the balcony railing, which = is <BR>only slightly higher than the bench. </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" = SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>hmmmm.... a couple of twelve-branch candlabrum might be attractive = just behind the bench, with an oriental altar table in between with coffee = in silver service and some nice hors d'ouvres. &nbsp;&nbsp;I know it's not = an Episcopal church, but.... &nbsp;&nbsp;;--) <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;check out &nbsp;&nbsp;<A = HREF=3D"http://www.visionsuccess.com/BC2053">Vision Success </A> <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_196.133cd046.2b44e4e1_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: adequate lighting From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 19:52:15 -0500   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --B_3124295536_1079306 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit   On 1/1/03 7:42 PM, "Cremona502@cs.com" <Cremona502@cs.com> wrote:   > a couple of twelve-branch candlabrum might be attractive just behind the > bench, with an oriental altar table in between with coffee in silver = service > and some nice hors d'ouvres. I know it's not an Episcopal church, but   I certainly agree. But I will have to insist on some oysters and clams on the half-shell as well.   Alan   --B_3124295536_1079306 Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: adequate lighting</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">On 1/1/03 7:42 PM, = &quot;Cremona502@cs.com&quo=3D t; &lt;Cremona502@cs.com&gt; wrote:<BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">a couple of twelve-branch = candlabrum =3D might be attractive just behind the bench, with an oriental altar table in = b=3D etween with coffee in silver service and some nice hors d'ouvres. = &nbsp;&nbs=3D p;I know it's not an Episcopal church, but<BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman"><BR> I certainly agree. &nbsp;But I will have to insist on some oysters and = clam=3D s on the half-shell as well. &nbsp;<BR> <BR> Alan</FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --B_3124295536_1079306--    
(back) Subject: Re: adequate lighting From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 20:10:10 EST     --part1_e5.2194a170.2b44eb72_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/1/03 7:52:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, acfreed0904@earthlink.net writes:     > I certainly agree. But I will have to insist on some oysters and clams = on > the half-shell as well. >   Very interesting, indeed. I didn't know clams did that!! ;-)   Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 check out <A = HREF=3D"http://www.visionsuccess.com/BC2053">Vision Success </A>       --part1_e5.2194a170.2b44eb72_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 1/1/03 7:52:29 PM Eastern = Standard Time, acfreed0904@earthlink.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE = style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I certainly agree. &nbsp;But I will have to insist = on some oysters and clams on the half-shell as well. &nbsp; <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Very interesting, indeed. &nbsp;&nbsp;I didn't know clams did that!! = &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;check out &nbsp;&nbsp;<A = HREF=3D"http://www.visionsuccess.com/BC2053">Vision Success </A> <BR> <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_e5.2194a170.2b44eb72_boundary--