PipeChat Digest #3353 - Saturday, January 4, 2003
 
RE: Musical Saw
  by "Mickey Sadler" <msadler@netset.com>
Re: Musical Saw
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
RE: Christmas Organ Music
  by "Cheryl Van Ornam" <cvanornam@newtonpres.org>
Re: Musical Saw(HUMOR)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Musical Saw
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Hinners Reed Organ Pekin, IL
  by "Laura Ingalls Wilder Museum" <liwcm@rconnect.com>
Re: The attack
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: (Purchasing) Christmas Organ Music
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
Re: The attack
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: Musical Saw(HUMOR)
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Musical Saw From: "Mickey Sadler" <msadler@netset.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:12:58 -0500   > > Subject: Musical Saw > From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> > Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:56:23 -0600 > > There is such a thing as a musical saw, Bruce! On West Virginia Public > Radio's "Live from the Mountain State," they used to refer to is as a > "mechanical synthesizer." An apt description, too! > > Dennis Steckley > ______________ > Wouldn't you rather carry wooden blocks rather than a saw in your > music > sack >   Hi All,   I know this is off-topic (unless the sound can be "imitated" on the organ), but for more information on the Musical Saw, find a copy of:   Scratch my Back: A Pictorial History of the Musical Saw and How to Play It by Jim Leonard and Janet E. Graebner Kaleidoscope Press, 1989. Paperback, 8" x 9", 124 pages; illustrated with b&w photos and cartoon-like drawings.   I believe it is out of print (I got it at the public library), but it may be the only book on the subject.   Back to lurking,   Mickey     ---- Mickey E. Sadler Dublin, Ohio    
(back) Subject: Re: Musical Saw From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:56:06 EST     --part1_f2.27391771.2b4728b6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   When I had a senior adult choir we used the musical saw, jugs, the old tub =   with a string on it, etc. Oh yes, also kazoos. This was just for special =   events. lol. Lee   --part1_f2.27391771.2b4728b6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff00ff" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Tahoma" LANG=3D"0"><B>When I had a senior = adult choir we used the musical saw, jugs, the old tub with a string on = it, etc.&nbsp; Oh yes, also kazoos.&nbsp; This was just for special = events.&nbsp; lol. Lee</B></FONT></HTML>   --part1_f2.27391771.2b4728b6_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: Christmas Organ Music From: "Cheryl Van Ornam" <cvanornam@newtonpres.org> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:13:40 -0500   Where do you all order your music from? For bells, I use 1.800.JHS.BELL = and order music. Is there such a "central supply" ordering place for organ music?   Thank you, Cheryl Van Ornam Newton Presbyterian Church Newton, MA cvanornam@newtonpres.org   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Beau Surratt Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 8:13 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Christmas Organ Music     Hi! This us published by Fred Bock music company and is dedicated to listmember Darryl Miller. It features the toccata theme from Mulet's Tu es Petra in the hands and Joy to the World in the feet, then the tume in canon with some running arpeggios and ends with the toccata theme and joy in the feet again.     Christmas Blessings, Beau Surratt, Organist St. Peter's UCC, Elmhurst,IL Organ Performance Major, Northern Illinois University, DeKalb,IL     -----Original Message----- From: ProOrgo53@aol.com To: pipechat@pipechat.org Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 23:36:51 EST Subject: Re: Christmas Organ Music   > In a message dated 12/18/2002 11:08:38 PM Central Standard Time, > Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com writes: > > > Postlude- "Flourish on Joy to the World" Michael G. Dell > > > Publisher? > > Dale G. Rider, MSM, CAGO > Organist/Director of Music Ministries > First Baptist Church /American > Kansas City, Missouri > Volunteer Staff Organist > Community of Christ Auditorium & Temple > Independence, Missouri >       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Musical Saw(HUMOR) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 13:19:00 -0500   In a message dated 1/3/2003 12:56:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, Chicaleee = writes:   > When I had a senior adult choir we used the musical saw, jugs, the old = tub with a string on it, etc. Oh yes, also > kazoos. This was just for special events. lol. Lee   Dear Lee:   Are these instruments of torture currently being introduced into Praze Bands now? Or is it because they couldn't afford a second hand piano right off the bat. "Brother sings Bass, Moma sings tenor". I suppose I shouldn't give the weak minded ideas, now should I? It would give meaning to a new low in the genre. I propose the Peterson Bottle Organ to stay on topic to go with this menagerie. Ahhhh! How cozy and "DOWN HOME." Makes one feel all warm and CLAPPY HAPPY. The red neck version of it all.   ROTFLMAO   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Musical Saw From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 09:49:05 +1300   Indeed. I've seen a number of people play the musical saw. By increasing = or decreasing pressure on a handsaw, making it bend, and bowing it with a violin bow, you can play tunes, giving a softish wailing kind of sound, = more flutey than stringy. Fun.   Ross -----Original Message----- From: Mickey Sadler <msadler@netset.com> To: PipeChat < <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, January 04, 2003 4:13 AM Subject: RE: Musical Saw     >> >> Subject: Musical Saw >> From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> >> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:56:23 -0600 >> >> There is such a thing as a musical saw, Bruce! On West Virginia Public >> Radio's "Live from the Mountain State," they used to refer to is as a >> "mechanical synthesizer." An apt description, too! >> >> Dennis Steckley >> ______________ >> Wouldn't you rather carry wooden blocks rather than a saw in your >> music >> sack >> > >Hi All, > >I know this is off-topic (unless the sound can be "imitated" on the >organ), but for more information on the Musical Saw, find a copy of: > >Scratch my Back: A Pictorial History of the Musical Saw and How to Play >It >by Jim Leonard and Janet E. Graebner >Kaleidoscope Press, 1989. Paperback, 8" x 9", 124 pages; illustrated >with b&w photos and cartoon-like drawings. > >I believe it is out of print (I got it at the public library), but it >may be the only book on the subject. > >Back to lurking, > >Mickey > > >---- >Mickey E. Sadler >Dublin, Ohio > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Hinners Reed Organ Pekin, IL From: "Laura Ingalls Wilder Museum" <liwcm@rconnect.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:14:42 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004B_01C2B343.393A54A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable     ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Laura Ingalls Wilder Museum=3D20 To: Pipe Chat=3D20 Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: Hinners Reed Organ Pekin, IL     I am looking for more information on a Hinners Reed Organ. It was used in the Lutheran Church in Revere, MN. I can email you a photograph if needed. I cannot locate the date on the = =3D organ. Any information you can supply would be greatly appreciated. We are =3D hoping to add this to our 1890-1920's Parlor.   Please check out our website www.walnutgrove.org   Nicole   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004B_01C2B343.393A54A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dwindows-1252"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=3D20 <DIV style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> = <A=3D20 title=3D3Dliwcm@rconnect.com href=3D3D"mailto:liwcm@rconnect.com">Laura = =3D Ingalls Wilder=3D20 Museum</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">Pipe Chat</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 03, 2003 4:10 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Hinners Reed Organ Pekin, IL</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am looking for more information on = a =3D Hinners=3D20 Reed&nbsp;Organ.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It was used in the Lutheran Church in = =3D Revere,=3D20 MN.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I can email you a photograph if =3D needed.&nbsp; I=3D20 cannot locate the date on the organ.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Any information you can supply would = be =3D greatly=3D20 appreciated.&nbsp; We are hoping to add this to our 1890-1920's=3D20 Parlor.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Please check out our website <A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.walnutgrove.org">www.walnutgrove.org</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Nicole</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004B_01C2B343.393A54A0--      
(back) Subject: Re: The attack From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 00:44:11 +0000 (GMT)   --0-425057974-1041641051=3D:64870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit     Hello, I've been thinkingh about this business of "attack", and even went along = to church to check it all out (freezing cold....such dedication!) I have come to the conclusion that the "intimacy" of attack possible via = tracker action is complete garbage.......I will explain. Factor a) The 8ft Principal is very slow and lazy.....but it sings = beautifully eventually. Factor b) The 8ft Rohrflute is huge in scale (very French) and, no matter = what you do with it, it has a certain "lead in" period......it simply = refuses to be speeded up or slowed down. Factor c) The 4ft Octave is quite prompt, but any attempt at slowing down = the speech merely results in irregular speech from one note to another. Factor d) A Mixture is a Mixture is a Mixture.....just the two = settings...on and off. Factor e) 2 rk Sesqiultera....see Factor d above On to the Positive:- Factor f) 8ft Gedact with a pronounced "Quint" in the tone. So sensitive, = it just speaks at any setting on the keys......no difference in attack. Factor g) 4ft Koppel Flute....speech can be varied ever so slightly, but = not significantly. Factor h) 2 ft Principal just fires up without prompting and refuses to be = slowed down. Factor i) 1.1/3 Quint is....like most weeny pipes, on or off. To the Pedal:- Factor j) 16ft Bourdon...can be induced to speak soft to loud, but = without significant alteration to speed of speech. Factor k) 16ft Fagot......it can be made to half-quack or come on = disagreeably slowly. The action is modern mechanical, and the voicing open toe, whilst the = scaling and voicing is essentialy Dutch in character. However, getting colder by the minute, I tried two pieces of music....the = lovely opening of the F minor Pachelbel "Ciaconne". I stroked the keys = lovingly and played in a very legato style....it sounded beautiful on the = 8ft Rohrflute. I FELT THAT THE SPEECH WAS SLOWER. Then I played part of Jehan Alain's "Litanies"....fairly stabbing at the = keys in the process. I FELT THAT THE SPEECH WAS SNAPPIER. I am now of the conclusion that the difference of approach is entirely = psychological, which may go some way towards explaining why the few = recitals which I have recorded, sound no better and no worse on EP = actions. The only exception to this was on the rapidly failing action on = the Schulze organ at Armley back in 1984, where the organ re-interpreted = every bit of phrasing fed into it! It is my view that consistency of action attack is far more important than = any supposed "intimacy" with the pallets. My only reasons for preferring tracker action are twofold. It is extremely = reliable and consistent, and it keeps my fingers in athletic form. Regards,. Colin Mitchell UK (frozen but thawing out)         --------------------------------- With Yahoo! Mail you can get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits = your needs   --0-425057974-1041641051=3D:64870 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit   <P>Hello, <P>I've been thinkingh about this business of "attack", and even went = along to church to check it all out (freezing cold....such dedication!) <P>I have come to the conclusion that the "intimacy" of attack possible = via tracker action is complete garbage.......I will explain. <P>Factor a)&nbsp; The 8ft Principal is very slow and lazy.....but it = sings beautifully eventually. <P>Factor b) The 8ft Rohrflute is huge in scale (very French) and, no = matter what you do with it, it has a certain "lead in" period......it = simply refuses to be speeded up or slowed down. <P>Factor c) The 4ft Octave is quite prompt, but any attempt at slowing = down the speech merely results in irregular speech from one note to = another. <P>Factor d) A Mixture is a Mixture is a Mixture.....just the two = settings...on and off. <P>Factor e) 2 rk Sesqiultera....see Factor d above <P>On to the Positive:- <P>Factor f)&nbsp; 8ft Gedact with a pronounced "Quint" in the tone. So = sensitive, it just speaks at any setting on the keys......no difference in attack. <P>Factor g) 4ft Koppel Flute....speech can be varied ever so slightly, = but not significantly. <P>Factor h) 2 ft Principal just fires up without prompting and refuses to = be slowed down. <P>Factor i) 1.1/3 Quint is....like most weeny pipes, on or off. <P>To the Pedal:- <P>Factor j)&nbsp; 16ft Bourdon...can be induced to speak soft to loud, = but without significant alteration to speed of speech. <P>Factor k) 16ft Fagot......it can be made to half-quack or come on = disagreeably slowly. <P>The action is modern mechanical, and the voicing open toe, whilst the = scaling and voicing is essentialy Dutch in character. <P>However, getting colder by the minute, I tried two pieces of = music....the lovely opening of the F minor Pachelbel "Ciaconne". I stroked = the keys lovingly and played in a very legato style....it sounded = beautiful on the 8ft Rohrflute. I FELT THAT THE SPEECH WAS SLOWER. <P>Then I played part of Jehan Alain's "Litanies"....fairly stabbing at = the keys in the process. I FELT THAT THE SPEECH WAS SNAPPIER. <P>I am now of the conclusion that the difference of approach is entirely = psychological, which may go some way towards explaining why the few = recitals which I have recorded, sound no better and no worse on EP = actions. The only exception to this was on the rapidly failing action on = the Schulze organ at Armley back in 1984, where the organ re-interpreted = every bit of phrasing fed into it! <P>It is my view that consistency of action attack is far more important = than any supposed "intimacy" with the pallets. <P>My only reasons for preferring tracker action are twofold. It is = extremely reliable and consistent, and it keeps my fingers in athletic = form. <P>Regards,. <P>Colin Mitchell <P>UK (frozen but thawing out)</P><p><p><br><hr size=3D1><a = href=3D"http://uk.yahoo.com/mail/tagline_xtra/?http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mai= l_storage.html"><b><font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">With Yahoo! Mail you = can get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that fits your = needs</font></b></a><br> --0-425057974-1041641051=3D:64870--  
(back) Subject: Re: (Purchasing) Christmas Organ Music From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 20:36:50 EST     --part1_17d.149a88b3.2b4794b2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Lois Fyfe Music in Nashville gets my vote and my business for supplier of organ music. Her toll-free number is 800-851-9023. All who answer the = phone and work for her are knowledgeable and easy to deal with.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea   --part1_17d.149a88b3.2b4794b2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" = FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Lois Fyfe Music in Nashville gets my = vote and my business for supplier of organ music. Her toll-free number is = 800-851-9023. All who answer the phone and work for her are knowledgeable = and easy to deal with.<BR> <BR> Yours,<BR> <BR> Darryl by the Sea</FONT></HTML>   --part1_17d.149a88b3.2b4794b2_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: The attack From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 21:35:10 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0012_01C2B36F.FE4260E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Dear Colin, I must agree with you that tracker organs will keep your fingers in = =3D great athletic shape. I guess I have to go back to Muhlenberg College =3D chapel and practice on that Holtkamp tracker to get my left hand back in = =3D shape. It seems like it is no longer connected to my head.Much fumbling = =3D going on and more than I can tolerate. Just had an MRI to find out if it = =3D was a stroke or just a lack of practice.=3D20 Just wondering if anyone feels that they can improvise much easier = =3D on a EP than a tracker. I find that I have to concentrate too much on =3D the keyboard action than on the music in my head when I improvise on a =3D tracker. Yes I know. The problem is right in there. LOL. Paul ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Colin Mitchell=3D20 To: PipeChat=3D20 Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 7:44 PM Subject: Re: The attack     Hello,=3D20   I've been thinkingh about this business of "attack", and even went =3D along to church to check it all out (freezing cold....such = dedication!)=3D20   I have come to the conclusion that the "intimacy" of attack possible =3D via tracker action is complete garbage.......I will explain.=3D20   Factor a) The 8ft Principal is very slow and lazy.....but it sings =3D beautifully eventually.=3D20   Factor b) The 8ft Rohrflute is huge in scale (very French) and, no =3D matter what you do with it, it has a certain "lead in" period......it =3D simply refuses to be speeded up or slowed down.=3D20   Factor c) The 4ft Octave is quite prompt, but any attempt at slowing =3D down the speech merely results in irregular speech from one note to =3D another.=3D20   Factor d) A Mixture is a Mixture is a Mixture.....just the two =3D settings...on and off.=3D20   Factor e) 2 rk Sesqiultera....see Factor d above=3D20   On to the Positive:-=3D20   Factor f) 8ft Gedact with a pronounced "Quint" in the tone. So =3D sensitive, it just speaks at any setting on the keys......no difference = =3D in attack.=3D20   Factor g) 4ft Koppel Flute....speech can be varied ever so slightly, =3D but not significantly.=3D20   Factor h) 2 ft Principal just fires up without prompting and refuses =3D to be slowed down.=3D20   Factor i) 1.1/3 Quint is....like most weeny pipes, on or off.=3D20   To the Pedal:-=3D20   Factor j) 16ft Bourdon...can be induced to speak soft to loud, but =3D without significant alteration to speed of speech.=3D20   Factor k) 16ft Fagot......it can be made to half-quack or come on =3D disagreeably slowly.=3D20   The action is modern mechanical, and the voicing open toe, whilst the = =3D scaling and voicing is essentialy Dutch in character.=3D20   However, getting colder by the minute, I tried two pieces of =3D music....the lovely opening of the F minor Pachelbel "Ciaconne". I =3D stroked the keys lovingly and played in a very legato style....it =3D sounded beautiful on the 8ft Rohrflute. I FELT THAT THE SPEECH WAS =3D SLOWER.=3D20   Then I played part of Jehan Alain's "Litanies"....fairly stabbing at =3D the keys in the process. I FELT THAT THE SPEECH WAS SNAPPIER.=3D20   I am now of the conclusion that the difference of approach is entirely = =3D psychological, which may go some way towards explaining why the few =3D recitals which I have recorded, sound no better and no worse on EP =3D actions. The only exception to this was on the rapidly failing action on = =3D the Schulze organ at Armley back in 1984, where the organ re-interpreted = =3D every bit of phrasing fed into it!=3D20   It is my view that consistency of action attack is far more important = =3D than any supposed "intimacy" with the pallets.=3D20   My only reasons for preferring tracker action are twofold. It is =3D extremely reliable and consistent, and it keeps my fingers in athletic =3D form.=3D20   Regards,.=3D20   Colin Mitchell=3D20   UK (frozen but thawing out)             -------------------------------------------------------------------------= =3D ----- With Yahoo! Mail you can get a bigger mailbox -- choose a size that =3D fits your needs     ------=3D_NextPart_000_0012_01C2B36F.FE4260E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dear Colin,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I must agree = =3D with you that=3D20 tracker organs will keep your fingers in great athletic shape. I guess I = =3D have to=3D20 go back to Muhlenberg College chapel and practice on that Holtkamp =3D tracker to=3D20 get my left hand back in shape. It seems like it&nbsp; is no longer =3D connected to=3D20 my head.Much fumbling going on and more than I can tolerate.&nbsp;Just =3D had an=3D20 MRI to find out if it was a stroke or just a lack of practice. =3D </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Just = wondering =3D if anyone=3D20 feels that they can improvise much easier on a EP than a tracker. I find = =3D that I=3D20 have to concentrate too much on the keyboard action than on the music in = =3D my head=3D20 when I improvise on a tracker. Yes I know. The problem is right in =3D there.=3D20 LOL.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial=3D20 size=3D3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs= =3D p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp= =3D ;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;= =3D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&= =3D nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=3D20 Paul</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Dcmys13085@yahoo.co.uk =3D href=3D3D"mailto:cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk">Colin=3D20 Mitchell</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">PipeChat</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 03, 2003 = =3D 7:44=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: The attack</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <P>Hello,=3D20 <P>I've been thinkingh about this business of "attack", and even went = =3D along to=3D20 church to check it all out (freezing cold....such dedication!)=3D20 <P>I have come to the conclusion that the "intimacy" of attack =3D possible via=3D20 tracker action is complete garbage.......I will explain.=3D20 <P>Factor a)&nbsp; The 8ft Principal is very slow and lazy.....but it = =3D sings=3D20 beautifully eventually.=3D20 <P>Factor b) The 8ft Rohrflute is huge in scale (very French) and, no = =3D matter=3D20 what you do with it, it has a certain "lead in" period......it simply = =3D refuses=3D20 to be speeded up or slowed down.=3D20 <P>Factor c) The 4ft Octave is quite prompt, but any attempt at =3D slowing down=3D20 the speech merely results in irregular speech from one note to =3D another.=3D20 <P>Factor d) A Mixture is a Mixture is a Mixture.....just the two=3D20 settings...on and off.=3D20 <P>Factor e) 2 rk Sesqiultera....see Factor d above=3D20 <P>On to the Positive:-=3D20 <P>Factor f)&nbsp; 8ft Gedact with a pronounced "Quint" in the tone. =3D So=3D20 sensitive, it just speaks at any setting on the keys......no =3D difference in=3D20 attack.=3D20 <P>Factor g) 4ft Koppel Flute....speech can be varied ever so =3D slightly, but=3D20 not significantly.=3D20 <P>Factor h) 2 ft Principal just fires up without prompting and =3D refuses to be=3D20 slowed down.=3D20 <P>Factor i) 1.1/3 Quint is....like most weeny pipes, on or off.=3D20 <P>To the Pedal:-=3D20 <P>Factor j)&nbsp; 16ft Bourdon...can be induced to speak soft to =3D loud, but=3D20 without significant alteration to speed of speech.=3D20 <P>Factor k) 16ft Fagot......it can be made to half-quack or come = on=3D20 disagreeably slowly.=3D20 <P>The action is modern mechanical, and the voicing open toe, whilst =3D the=3D20 scaling and voicing is essentialy Dutch in character.=3D20 <P>However, getting colder by the minute, I tried two pieces of =3D music....the=3D20 lovely opening of the F minor Pachelbel "Ciaconne". I stroked the keys = =3D   lovingly and played in a very legato style....it sounded beautiful on = =3D the 8ft=3D20 Rohrflute. I FELT THAT THE SPEECH WAS SLOWER.=3D20 <P>Then I played part of Jehan Alain's "Litanies"....fairly stabbing =3D at the=3D20 keys in the process. I FELT THAT THE SPEECH WAS SNAPPIER.=3D20 <P>I am now of the conclusion that the difference of approach is =3D entirely=3D20 psychological, which may go some way towards explaining why the few =3D recitals=3D20 which I have recorded, sound no better and no worse on EP actions. The = =3D only=3D20 exception to this was on the rapidly failing action on the Schulze =3D organ at=3D20 Armley back in 1984, where the organ re-interpreted every bit of =3D phrasing fed=3D20 into it!=3D20 <P>It is my view that consistency of action attack is far more =3D important than=3D20 any supposed "intimacy" with the pallets.=3D20 <P>My only reasons for preferring tracker action are twofold. It is =3D extremely=3D20 reliable and consistent, and it keeps my fingers in athletic form.=3D20 <P>Regards,.=3D20 <P>Colin Mitchell=3D20 <P>UK (frozen but thawing out)</P> <P> <P><BR> <HR SIZE=3D3D1> <A=3D20 =3D href=3D3D"http://uk.yahoo.com/mail/tagline_xtra/?http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/m= =3D ail_storage.html"><B><FONT=3D20 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>With Yahoo! Mail you can get a bigger mailbox = -- =3D choose a=3D20 size that fits your =3D needs</FONT></B></A><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0012_01C2B36F.FE4260E0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Musical Saw(HUMOR) From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 21:47:19 EST     --part1_15d.19dec798.2b47a537_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   This was back in the 80's and we used them for a special "Senior Adult Musical." I don't dare tell the Praise band about them. That might be = the next thing to replace the organ. Lee   --part1_15d.19dec798.2b47a537_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">This was back in the 80's and we used them for a = special "Senior Adult Musical."&nbsp; I don't dare tell the Praise band = about them.&nbsp; That might be the next thing to replace the organ.&nbsp; = Lee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_15d.19dec798.2b47a537_boundary--