PipeChat Digest #3359 - Tuesday, January 7, 2003
 
Re: Please read , ALL canadian Pipe Organ Builders
  by <OrganMD@aol.com>
Re: It's the ATTITUDE that's indefensible
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Take a stand and make a difference! (crossposted)(long)
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
RE: Please read , ALL canadian Pipe Organ Builders
  by "Sam Vause" <vause@cox.net>
RE: Please read , ALL canadian Pipe Organ Builders
  by "David Smit" <DavidS@astrolabegroup.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Please read , ALL canadian Pipe Organ Builders From: <OrganMD@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:46:02 EST     --part1_12c.1f95f9e3.2b4bb58a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi..........   I do not know the rules in Canada, but down here in the USA, most = insurance companies would want to put a special "rider" on the policy covering the organ specifically. The same thing would be done for an art collection in =   the home, or other very valuable antiques, a Steinway grand piano, etc.   I hope that this helps you.   Bill Hesterman   --part1_12c.1f95f9e3.2b4bb58a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Hi..........<BR> <BR> I do not know the rules in Canada, but down here in the USA, most = insurance companies would want to put a special "rider" on the policy = covering the organ specifically.&nbsp; The same thing would be done for an = art collection in the home, or other very valuable antiques, a Steinway = grand piano, etc.<BR> <BR> I hope that this helps you.<BR> <BR> Bill Hesterman</FONT></HTML>   --part1_12c.1f95f9e3.2b4bb58a_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: It's the ATTITUDE that's indefensible From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:49:18 EST     --part1_17b.13f647a3.2b4bb64e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   List, I think that many of you are TOO SENSITIVE for a bunch of professional adults. Get a life! He was just making a joke! Greg Ceurvorst (little king) -find something to attack me for now....you guys never fail to moan about something.     --part1_17b.13f647a3.2b4bb64e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>List, <BR>I think that many of you are <B><U>TOO SENSITIVE</B></U> for a bunch = of professional adults. &nbsp;Get a life! &nbsp;He was just making a joke! <BR>Greg Ceurvorst (little king) <BR>-find something to attack me for now....you guys never fail to moan = about something. <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_17b.13f647a3.2b4bb64e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Take a stand and make a difference! (crossposted)(long) From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2003 22:52:49 -0600   To the organ lists,   Normally I avoid crossposting as I know many others are subscribed to more =   than one list. Sometimes it is important to let as many people know about = a situation as possible. I believe this is one of those instances. Hawaii = had 3 Robert Morton theatre organs, 2 4-16's in Honolulu and a 3/10 in Hilo on =   the big island. All 3 survived until now, with the Hilo organ incomplete due to the loss if its console from a tidal wave that struck Hilo in the 40's. When the Waikiki Theatre was built in the 30's the 4/16 from the Hawaii Theatre was moved to the Waikiki Theatre. This organ is in jeopardy =   as the Waikiki theatre is to be torn down and the organ may go down with the building. It is not due to lack of interest in saving this organ. It was believed that this organ's future was secure as there was a project to =   remove the organ, ship it to Hilo and combine it with the 3/10 in the restored Hilo Palace Theatre. The project was funded by donations and = there was money to move the organ. The owners of the Waikiki donated the organ = to the "Friends of the Palace" which is the group which operates the theatre. =   For some reason the Palace Theatre has stopped the project apparently due to some change of heart on their part...and the Waikik organ is now in limbo. The monies donated for the project allegedly been frozen by the theatre group and are not available to save the organ. The following was recently posted on the Theatreorgans-l list by Jason M. Tayor, a theatre organ supporter in New Jersey. I fully agree with his post and endorse his =   efforts to save this instrument. I have been in contact with individuals = in Hawaii who are in a position to know what is going on and they confirm = what is in this post. I want to share Jason's post with you in its' entirety. I =   realize it is long, but I believe this information is important.   sincerely, Jon C. Habermaas Lindenhurst, Il Dear T.O. List members:   Do You   1. Really Love Theatre Pipe Organs, and;   2. fully realize that new ones are not likely to be built, and;   3. think you should make an effort to save those that currently   exist for the benefit of future generations?   Do you find it appalling when people entrusted with donated funds to = save an organ apparently abuse their responsibilities and either misspend or freeze the funds, act in an arrogant manner, and risk loosing the organ forever to a wrecking ball?   If this sounds like you, then please read the following information and start writing Emails to the parties listed at the end. Since the ATOS doesn't seem to want any part of this, it is time we, as members of this list, and people who spend countless hours maintaining and playing Theatre =   Organs take a stand as individuals and do something to save the 16 rank Robert Morgan currently in the Waikiki Theatre.   The information below is from a party who is very well informed and close to the situation. It confirms the material posted to the list from Ed Gilman, President of the HTOS. Get thoroughly annoyed, then do your part and get even with the guilty parties. Email the first three names on the list, and any others you have time for.   For those of you who do not have time to compose an Email of your own, I will submit a short Email that can be copied and sent by you. This will = be done in the next 24 hours.   You can help keep this great instrument out of the rubble pile. It should =   be at least as important as watching and commenting on a bad TV show.   Sincerely, Jason Taylor     >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hilo, Hawaii   Up until July of 2001 the Palace Theatre had a dedicated group of = theatre professional volunteers who had spent years bringing the Palace back to life and were responsible for getting donations of cash, materials, furnishings and equipment including replacement theatre seats, projection and sound systems and the pipe organ. Everything they did was very = popular with the public and they seemed to be on the right track. Once the theatre was up and running, and established in the community, the volunteers were looking for projects that they could do that would enhance the value of = the Palace in the public's eyes. They had the parts for the original organ, and enough extras to enlarge it to ten ranks in one chamber, so they began =   that project over two years ago. The managing organization, Friends of = the Palace (FOPs) < <http://www.hilopalace.com/>www.hilopalace.com > and the then-executive director were very supportive at that time.   In the meantime, the volunteers succeeded in getting the donation of the Waikiki Theatre 16 rank organ with plans for combining the best of the two =   organs into an instrument to be at least 20 ranks. With the blessing of the executive director and knowledge of the board of the FOPs they began fund raising expressly for the organ project. A single generous donor = gave $15,000 and additional donors gave about $2,300. Of the $15,000 = restricted donation, between $5,000 and $8,000 were budgeted for expenses to get the Waikiki organ out, crated, and shipped to Hilo. The remainder of the = organ fund was designated for a new relay system, enlarging the Waikiki 4 manual =   console and miscellaneous material expenses. So it was all funded and would have cost the FOPs nothing.   Things were going extremely well until the president of the FOP suddenly, for no explained reason, evicted all of the volunteers and shut down the project. This FOP president, Stewart Hussey, has since mounted a vicious smear campaign to discredit the work of the volunteers, some of whom had been with the project since 1989. The volunteers are at a complete loss = to understand what happened. He has ordered his board members to not talk to =   any of the former volunteers or believe anything that they might say. = What seems to be at the core of this whole thing is the $13,000 that is = supposed to remain in the restricted pipe organ account. Hussey claims that this account is "frozen", yet will not provide any accounting to the original donor who has been trying to find out what is going on for over a year.   Hussey claims that the FOPs have engaged a "mainland organ expert" to complete the organ project, but he won't say who it is. This is probably = a smoke screen since they have no extra funds to hire anybody. The = remaining $13,000 (if it still exists) was restricted by the donor for retrieving = the Waikiki organ and buying the new relay system, so it cannot legally be = used to hire anyone. Any reputable organ professional would charge a small fortune for a project like this. Also interesting is that Hussey has recently been publicly saying that the FOPs are not sure that an organ belongs in the Palace's future! Quite a turnaround for a man who helped prepare documentation to get the Waikiki organ donation in the first = place!   When the deadline for removal of the Waikiki organ appeared, the Hilo Theatre Organ Society (HTOS) offered to assist the FOPs with saving the organ for the Palace if the FOPs would release the funds that had been set-aside for this very purpose. The HTOS had lined up volunteers in Honolulu and volunteers from Hilo were available to go to Honolulu to help. The HTOS even secured the commitment of a donation to hire Scott Bosch, of Pipe Organs Hawaii, to plan, organize, and execute the removal project. The FOPs responded that the HTOS were welcome to remove the = organ and bring it to Hilo for the Palace at "their own expense" but the FOPs would contribute nothing! This reinforces the question of what happened to the $13,000. The HTOS is a very small chapter with virtually no resources of its own, so they cannot afford to do this on their own. So, everything is in limbo right now.   The Hilo Downtown Improvement Association (DIA) holds title to the Palace Theatre and owns the original organ (it was donated to the DIA in 1990). The FOPs have a month-to-month interim agreement to manage the building. The Downtown Improvement Association, although listed as the official owner of record, actually has a contract with the County to = manage the project because of the public money that was involved for the purchase =   and structural rebuilding. The DIA cannot lease, sublet, transfer or sell =   the Palace without the approval of the County. The DIA is eager to get = the Palace off their hands since it has become such a hot potato.   Last year the Hilo ATOS chapter had applied to the DIA to take ownership, but the HTOS application was not considered since (guess what!!!!) the president of the Friends of the Palace, Stewart Hussey, was also president =   of the DIA for 2002! Does that sound like a conflict of interest? Life = in paradise is indeed interesting.   * * * * * * * * People to Write To:     The Mayor of Hawaii Island is Harry Kim at < <mailto:cohmayor@interpac.net>cohmayor@interpac.net >   Messages to him would be appropriate since the County of Hawaii gave $425,000 to the Palace project, and because of the Countys responsibility for the public money that was involved for the purchase and structural rebuilding.   The State of Hawaii gave over $700,000 to the Palace Theatre restoration project, and the Palace is on the state register of historic places, so this matter could be of concern to Governor Linda Lingle at < <mailto:gov@gov.hi.us>gov@gov.hi.us >.     Hawaii Senator Daniel Inouye Washington DC Web Mail Address: <http:// www.senate.gov/~inouye/abtform.html >     Hawaii Senator Daniel Akaka Washington DC EMail Address: < <mailto:senator@akaka.senate.gov>senator@akaka.senate.gov >     Hawaii Rep. Neil Abercrombie < <mailto:neil.abercrombie@mail.house.gov>neil.abercrombie@mail.house.gov = >     Hawaii State Foundation on Culture and the Arts Att: Chairperson < <mailto:sfca@sfca.state.hi.us>sfca@sfca.state.hi.us >     Island of Hawaii County Council Council Chairman James Y. Arakaki < <mailto:akonishi@interpac.net>akonishi@interpac.net >       Letters to Newspapers to raise awareness: for letters to the editor the papers require your full name, address, and telephone number for = verification.     The editor of the Hawaii Tribune-Herald (in Hilo) can be reached at < <mailto:htrib@hawaiitribune-herald.com>htrib@hawaiitribune-herald.com >   Letters to the editor can be sent to the Honolulu Advertiser at < <mailto:letters@honoluluadvertiser.com>letters@honoluluadvertiser.com >   and to the Honolulu Star-Bulletin at < <mailto:letters@starbulletin.com>letters@starbulletin.com >      
(back) Subject: RE: Please read , ALL canadian Pipe Organ Builders From: "Sam Vause" <vause@cox.net> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 00:16:04 -0700   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0025_01C2B5E1.F82C5840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Indeed, I second your statement. My homeowner's policy covers the replacement value of all my keyboards, including a Baldwin 6'3" Grand, a Conn 652, and a Rodgers Concord 760 w/ a 4-rank chest. My agent didn't = even bat an eyelash when I stated the replacement value on the instruments. --Sam Sam Vause, Chandler, AZ -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of OrganMD@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:46 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Please read , ALL canadian Pipe Organ Builders     Hi..........   I do not know the rules in Canada, but down here in the USA, most insurance companies would want to put a special "rider" on the policy covering the organ specifically. The same thing would be done for an art collection in the home, or other very valuable antiques, a Steinway grand piano, etc.   I hope that this helps you.   Bill Hesterman   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0025_01C2B5E1.F82C5840 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dus-ascii">     <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2722.900" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY> <DIV><SPAN class=3D3D482001407-07012003><FONT face=3D3DArial = color=3D3D#0000ff =3D   size=3D3D2>Indeed, I second your statement. My homeowner's policy covers = =3D the=3D20 replacement value of all my keyboards, including a Baldwin 6'3" Grand, a = =3D Conn=3D20 652, and a Rodgers Concord 760 w/ a 4-rank chest. My agent didn't even =3D bat an=3D20 eyelash when I stated the replacement value on the=3D20 instruments.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial color=3D3D#0000ff>--</FONT><FONT = face=3D3DGaramond=3D20 color=3D3D#0000ff>Sam</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3D3DGaramond = color=3D3D#800080>Sam =3D Vause,=3D20 Chandler, AZ</FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=3D3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3D3Dltr align=3D3Dleft><FONT =3D face=3D3DTahoma=3D20 size=3D3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =3D pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]<B>On Behalf Of=3D20 </B>OrganMD@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, January 06, 2003 9:46=3D20 PM<BR><B>To:</B> pipechat@pipechat.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Please =3D read ,=3D20 ALL canadian Pipe Organ Builders <BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT=3D20 face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D3=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">Hi..........<BR><BR>I do not know the rules in = =3D Canada, but=3D20 down here in the USA, most insurance companies would want to put a =3D special=3D20 "rider" on the policy covering the organ specifically.&nbsp; The same = =3D thing=3D20 would be done for an art collection in the home, or other very =3D valuable=3D20 antiques, a Steinway grand piano, etc.<BR><BR>I hope that this = helps=3D20 you.<BR><BR>Bill Hesterman</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0025_01C2B5E1.F82C5840--    
(back) Subject: RE: Please read , ALL canadian Pipe Organ Builders From: "David Smit" <DavidS@astrolabegroup.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 09:38:50 +0200   Hi,   I don't know if this is any good to you, but in South Africa the organ is generally considered part of the structure itself rather than a fitting to it, that is, a fixture - it DOES need to be mentioned specifically, but it is part of the building itself due to the fact that it is generally so difficult to remove. You might get away with stating the the instrument is not "household content", but part of the household itself.   Best   Dave S   -----Original Message----- From: danielwh1 [mailto:danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:33 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Please read , ALL canadian Pipe Organ Builders     I am trying to find out how to insure a Home Pipe Organ My Insurance company"Will NOT" under any circumstances even think of insuring my Instrument, they have not come to look at it, Al lthey say A "Pipe Organ" is not considered normal household content , therefor they will not = insure it under our home policy. We tryed to even insure it at a minimum amount of what it would cost to replace of an equivilent value from the Organ Clearing House. , Later in the day they replied to us via the phone, that they reviewed our Policy = and there guidelines, and still said No We have never ever put a claim into thsi insurance company.so I do not think we are a Risk I dont want to lose what I have, I just would like to feel like I have = some security in the event that I would ever lose it.   Does anyone know of what I would need to do? I need a good insurance company How do the churches insure there Pipe Organs in Canada, and also some of you may have build instruments for Private Residences, thank you Please reply Privatly thanks danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 31/12/2002     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org