PipeChat Digest #3363 - Thursday, January 9, 2003
 
Re: Introduction
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
Re: Introduction/Hellos!!
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
Elegy by William Grant Still
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: Elegy by William Grant Still
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Introduction
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Travelling by Train (long)
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander
  by "G. Deboer" <gdeboer@bluemarble.net>
Re: Elegy by William Grant Still
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: Introduction
  by "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Introduction From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:02:26 -0500   > On 1/8/03 3:36 AM, "David Smit" <DavidS@astrolabegroup.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > Not necessarily:-) > > > > Sawubona, wamukelekile e amaList! > > Dumela, wenkelekile amaLista ba mo! > > Goeiedag, Welkom te die List! > > And finally > > Hello, Welcome to the List. (for those who don't get all of this - = snigger > > snigger) > > > > Dave S > > > Zulu, Swahili, and Afrikaans? (Gotta beat TommyLee to this!) >   Alan I cheated. :) I believe you're correct with 1 & 3 but I believe the 2nd = one is Setswana, the primary language of Botswana. Thanks for the challenge, David! Would you care to enlighten us now?   Now David, to bring this back on topic and tell us a little more about = organs in South Africa while you're at it?   Ke itumetse Rra   Cheers, TommyLee    
(back) Subject: Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:01:57 EST     --part1_6.6b95a50.2b4e15f5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   My boy's father was Dutch. Need I say more. Lee   --part1_6.6b95a50.2b4e15f5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#400040" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">My boy's father was = Dutch.&nbsp; Need I say more.&nbsp; Lee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_6.6b95a50.2b4e15f5_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Introduction/Hellos!! From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:11:40 EST     --part1_194.132a4a52.2b4e183c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Welcome, Thomas. If someone mentions OKRA, ignore it. Lee   --part1_194.132a4a52.2b4e183c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#400040" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Welcome, Thomas.&nbsp; If = someone mentions OKRA, ignore it.&nbsp; Lee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_194.132a4a52.2b4e183c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Elegy by William Grant Still From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:17:01 EST     --part1_24.33f43422.2b4e197d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Does anyone on the list know if William Grant Still's organ music "Elegy" = is still in print and if so, what publisher issues it? Please write me = directly. Thank you.   Dale G. Rider, MSM, CAGO Organist/Director of Music Ministries First Baptist Church /American Kansas City, Missouri Volunteer Staff Organist Community of Christ Auditorium & Temple Independence, Missouri   --part1_24.33f43422.2b4e197d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">Does anyone on the list know if = William Grant Still's organ music <B><I>"Elegy"</B></I> is still in print = and if so, what publisher issues it? Please write me directly. Thank = you.<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Book Antiqua" LANG=3D"0">Dale G. Rider, = </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D1 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Book Antiqua" LANG=3D"0"><I>MSM, = CAGO<BR> Organist/Director of Music Ministries</I><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Book Antiqua" LANG=3D"0"><B>First = Baptist Church</B> /American<BR> Kansas City, Missouri<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <I>Volunteer Staff = Organist</I><BR> <B><I>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </I>Community of = Christ</B> Auditorium &amp; Temple<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Independence, = Missouri<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_24.33f43422.2b4e197d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Elegy by William Grant Still From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 18:33:08 -0600   >Does anyone on the list know if William Grant Still's organ music >"Elegy" is still in print and if so, what publisher issues it? >Please write me directly. Thank you. > >Dale G. Rider, MSM, CAGO >Organist/Director of Music Ministries >First Baptist Church /American >Kansas City, Missouri > Volunteer Staff Organist > Community of Christ Auditorium & Temple > Independence, Missouri   Dale   Again, i will put in a "plug" for the John Henderson "A Directory of Composers for the Organ". If you had a copy you could have found out that the W.G. Still Elegy was published by "Western International Music" - which has a city listing of "Independence - USA. As far as still being in print I don't know but at least you have the information to find out.   A copy of this book belongs in EVERY organist's library! It can be purchased from the OHS at: http://www.ohscatalog.org   David  
(back) Subject: Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 14:11:20 +1300   >There are 2 provences, by that name South Holland and North Holland.   Since we're trying to be accurate about language here, let me say categorically that is only one Provence, and that is in France. There may well be various Dutch provinces, but that's a different matter. :-)   Ross    
(back) Subject: Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 14:19:23 +1300   No, Colin, the dykes are in Holland the banks, not the waterways, though I admit your useage is permissible in obsolete English. Ross -----Original Message----- From: Colin Mitchell <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander     >Hello Alan, > >I never know what Holland is about! > >The Dutch seem to call themselves Hollanders, whilst >the Netherlands includes the French speaking lot and >the Flemish speaking lot in Belgium. > >Southern Holland remains quite catholic to this day, >but of course, it is a generally protestant country. > >Further complications include the Walloons....I think >they are the French speaking Netherlands Belgians. > >My friends would know, but I fear the arrival of a >truck carrying books and documents from Amsterdam. > >In any event, the place is flat and boring except in >the Ardennes (note the French) and it all results from >the protestant monarchies of centuries ago. > >They even call canals "Dykes". > >If you ask me, the Netherlands is all "Oranges" and >"Lemmens". > >:) >Regards, > >Colin> > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Everything you'll ever need on one web page >from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts >http://uk.my.yahoo.com > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Introduction From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 20:38:26 -0500   A warm welcome to you, Thomas Mohr, from one who is both an organist and a = cancer survivor.   Yours, Victoria Hedberg-Ceruti  
(back) Subject: Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 20:39:24 -0500   On 1/8/03 8:11 PM, "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> wrote:   > Since we're trying to be accurate about language here,   Ross, I'm with you. I thank you. Not too good at it, but it is my aim. And when I goof, I'll welcome corrections.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:19:02 -0600   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander     > They even call canals "Dykes".   So what's odd about that? In Somerset where I grew up we used to refer to the drainage channels (such as the King's Sedgemoor Drain) as dykes too. Without them the Isle of Avalon and the Isle of Athelney would still be islands.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: Travelling by Train (long) From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:38:43 -0600   ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: Travelling by Train (long)     In those days there was a magnificent > Arch at the entrance to Euston, alas long since departed to the = vandalism of > =93progress=94.   The new Euston is really pretty squalid and will not, I think, last as = long as the old Euston Station with its wonderful Great Hall and Doric arch. = In America the demolition of the old Pennsylvania Station in New York was a similar outrage, and has proved so disastrous from the practical point of view that there has even been talk of rebuilding it from scratch. It is fortunate that the other original terminus of the London & Birmingham Railway at Curzon Street in Birmingham has survived and is being restored. Did I dream it, or did someone say that it is going to be the new headquarters of the Royal College of Organists? Perhaps they will have a steam calliope with a Tuba on 225 psi. <g>   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander From: "G. Deboer" <gdeboer@bluemarble.net> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:28:39 -0500   A correction is required here. The word dykes is incorrect, the Dutch call them dijk (single) and dijken = if plural. The letters "i" and "j" make up the letter "y" in Dutch. They = also do not pronounce this letter "y" as in the English "y".   Gary   ----- Original Message ----- From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander     > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 5:38 PM > Subject: Re: Netherlands/Dutch/Hollander > > > > They even call canals "Dykes". > > So what's odd about that? In Somerset where I grew up we used to refer = to > the drainage channels (such as the King's Sedgemoor Drain) as dykes too. > Without them the Isle of Avalon and the Isle of Athelney would still be > islands. > > John Speller > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Elegy by William Grant Still From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:15:44 EST     --part1_53.205ee661.2b4e5170_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   David,   Again, you have been a tremendous help to me. You are quite correct about = the Henderson book: I'm taking your word for it simply because you have proven =   twice now of the necessity of owning this book.   As soon as I'm again gainfully employed full-time Henderson's book will be = my first purchase. (We've a daughter in college in her sophmore year; the company I was working for let several of us go in August due to financial difficulties. Ugh! We had a happy but meager Christmas.   Dale G. Rider   --part1_53.205ee661.2b4e5170_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D"Times New Roman" LANG=3D"0">David, <BR> <BR> Again, you have been a tremendous help to me. You are quite correct about = the Henderson book<B>:</B> I'm taking your word for it simply because you = have proven twice now of the necessity of owning this book. <BR> <BR> As soon as I'm again gainfully employed full-time Henderson's book will be = my first purchase. (We've a daughter in college in her sophmore = year<B>;</B> the company I was working for let several of us go in August = due to financial difficulties. Ugh! We had a happy but meager = Christmas.<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SERIF" FACE=3D"Book Antiqua" LANG=3D"0">Dale G. = Rider</FONT></HTML>   --part1_53.205ee661.2b4e5170_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Introduction From: "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 22:55:49 -0500   Ja, Herr Whitlock ist richtig. Er ist hier ein besonders Mensch.   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA   > From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> > Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 00:32:48 -0500 > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Subject: Re: Introduction >=20 >> On the side: Thank you for knowing English. WE do NOT know other >> languages, for which we owe big apologies. >=20 > Speak for yourself, Alan! <g> Some of us do. Well, at least sort of. <= G> >=20 > Herzlich wilkommen zu unserer Liste! Es gibt hier jede menge freundliche > Leute aus verschiedenen L=E2nder, viele Leute mit einer sehr tiefen Kenntni= s der > Orgelkunst und alle ganz hilfsbereit! Und es gibt hier auch einige > Deutschsprechende. >=20 > Join right in! I'm just a beginner, myself, having started a little over= 2 > years ago. I've learned a great deal regarding the art of the organ from= this > group. =20 >=20 > Cheers! > TommyLee Whitlock > ::returning to lurk mode:: >=20 > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >=20 >=20