PipeChat Digest #3381 - Wednesday, January 15, 2003
 
Drive through weddings
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Drive through weddings
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
Re: Drums - WAS Hallelujah Chorus is Satanic - WAS organ chat list
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
Drums vs. Organs
  by "Mark Koontz" <markkoontz@yahoo.com>
Re: Chest Releathering
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: From funerals to weddings
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: What are we playing on Sunday?
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Sorry! The funeral isn't quite over!
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: What are we playing on Sunday?
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: From funerals to weddings
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca>
Some of Netscape 7's other wonderful features!
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: HTML crap problem, still!
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: funeral (Catholic)
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: funeral (Catholic)
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: Some of Netscape 7's other wonderful features!
  by "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com>
 

(back) Subject: Drive through weddings From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 20:55:42 +0000 (GMT)   Hello, Paul has hit upon a brilliant idea.....drive through weddings!   The whole thing could be condensed into a 2 minute ritual, a quick blessing, two bars of "Here comes" and "There goes" the Bride, everyone wearing silly paper hats and wishing the hapless couple "Have a nice day".   The church doors are just big enough for a stretch limo.   We could even reduce our fees and make a killing....I reckon 120 weddings a day would JUST be possible, and we could seriously undercut the hotels.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   --- EchoGamba@aol.com wrote:   > Dear all, This is good > news for me of course, > because I get paid for each one! ;-) > > Seems to me to be another McDonalds drive through > scenario. > > Paul. > EchoGamba@AOL.com >   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Drive through weddings From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:20:35 -0500   > Paul has hit upon a brilliant idea.....drive through > weddings! > > The whole thing could be condensed into a 2 minute > ritual, a quick blessing, two bars of "Here comes" and > "There goes" the Bride, everyone wearing silly paper > hats and wishing the hapless couple "Have a nice day"   Oh, but they've been doing those in Las Vegas for years!!!! Or at least = they used to. I understand that the minister once fell out of the booth onto = the pavement and has since made people park and come in to the chapel. Does anyone have any updates on this?   Cheers, TommyLee    
(back) Subject: Re: Drums - WAS Hallelujah Chorus is Satanic - WAS organ chat list From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:21:53 -0500   > So, do I scratch Karg-Elert's "Praise the Lord with Drums and Cymbals" > off the wedding recommendations list?   <<Chuckle!>>   > As I look at Psalm 150, it's difficult for me to start listing > exclusions. As I read it, everything can praise the Lord -- nothing > is left out. On the other hand, when our pipe organ replaced the > old Allen, I liked to quote "Let everything *THAT HAS BREATH* praise > the Lord", but that's another story.   Okay, but what about the cymbel and harp? They don't have breath. = Actually, I think the "everything that hath breath" quote meant that every living = being should praise God and that the birds, crickets, grasshoppers, etc. all = praise the Creator in the song/noise/whatever. Even the droning of the cicada is =   acceptable praise for God. However, I think the digitoids get covered by = the first sentence of this paragraph. ::ducking::   On a more serious note, I think that you have indeed hit on the *spirit* = of the Psalm - make music any way you can to praise the Lord! Sing, clap, = stomp your feet, play instruments both beautiful and not so beautiful, as long = as it's offered to God with sincerety as praise. Personnally, I think crying = and laughing can fit in there, too. And, unfortunately, I'd have to say that = this includes "happy-clappy" as much as I dislike it. Jesus said, "In my house =   there are many mansions..." I just hope theirs is heavy sound insulated! = ;)   I have to say here that I take expection with those who, as Bill Lyon = said, "are looking for Satan behind every bush." I personally believe that the Psalmist was trying to cover all bases and that just because it isn't prescribed doesn't mean that it's forbidden. <<sigh!>>   > Back to drums: I don't expect every RC or Anglo-Catholic church to add > a trap set next to the organ. I also don't expect every brand-x > praise band to add a portative.   A TO toy counter on the organ might be fun! ::ducking again:: ;)   Cheers, TommyLee    
(back) Subject: Drums vs. Organs From: "Mark Koontz" <markkoontz@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:28:21 -0800 (PST)   Del Case wrote:   > To push this thread a little farther, or perhaps to push some other > hot buttons, I see (or hear) a huge difference between "drums" and > a trap set.   I think you're correct that there's a difference, but I think it has = something more to do with the player than the setup. Too many of these guys want to DRIVE everything (talk about a "trap"), and don't (as Bud so eloquently = put it) LISTEN. I can't stand drummers who want to beat everything to death. I = enjoy working with the drummers who want to play along with you.   I recently had an experience playing organ along with a praise band for a Christmas service. During rehearsal, I just could not stand playing the = organ with the drums -- it was just mindless beating. I switched to piano, = where I could fight percussion with percussion.   Oh well, I don't want to beat this to death......   Mark Koontz    
(back) Subject: Re: Chest Releathering From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:47:41 EST     --part1_132.190f2735.2b5730fd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/15/2003 1:58:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca writes:     > What would be the Qualification list for a windchest that could not be > releathered? > what would have to be taken into consideration > say for example ,an early 1900s Casavant windchest > Daniel >   Any windchest that does not have major structural flaws (like hugh cracks thru the channelling of the table/bottomboards/sidewalls) is a candidate = for releathering. Some chest styles are more labor intensive than others, and chests with duplexed pitman systems ( like Moller) can require some re-hab =   work besides the simple replacement of the pouches/pitmans.   Rick in VA   --part1_132.190f2735.2b5730fd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 1/15/2003 1:58:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, danielwh1@ns.sympatico.ca = writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">What would be the = Qualification &nbsp;list for a windchest that could not be <BR>releathered? <BR>what would have to be taken into consideration <BR>say &nbsp;for &nbsp;example ,an early 1900s Casavant windchest <BR>Daniel <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Any windchest that does not have major structural flaws (like hugh = cracks thru the channelling of the table/bottomboards/sidewalls) is a = candidate for releathering. Some chest styles are more labor intensive = than others, and chests with duplexed pitman systems ( like Moller) can = require some re-hab work besides the simple replacement of the = pouches/pitmans. &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Rick in VA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_132.190f2735.2b5730fd_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: From funerals to weddings From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:55:57 -0500   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --B_3125494557_6690512 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   On 1/15/03 3:23 PM, "EchoGamba@aol.com" <EchoGamba@aol.com> wrote:   > it is only in the past few years that hotels and the like have been = issue=3D d > with licences to carry out actual wedding ceremonies prior to the = wedding > reception.=3D20 >=3D20 > =3D80=3D80=3D80That=3DB9s a bit of a foreign idea to an American. To = us, the building, t=3D he > room, or the forest glade where a wedding is held has nothing to do with = =3D it. > SOMEbody (a judge, a clergyperson, or the Lord Mayor) has to officiate = on=3D half > of the state (and on behalf of the religious body, if there is one = involv=3D ed); > but WHERE he or she does it is not involved. If I do a wedding on a = beac=3D h, do > I get a license from the lifeguard? I=3DB9ve had weddings at the Statue = of > Liberty, on the top floor of the (lamented) World Trade Center, on a = yach=3D t on > the Hudson River, in a meadow on a farm, etc. Authority to do so came = fr=3D om > the civil authorities of the state in which the ceremony took place. = (I=3DB9=3D m not > disagreeing with the Brit way; I=3DB9m just mildly bemused.) >=3D20 > Is this just a new trend in the UK or is this happening all over the = worl=3D d? I > suspect the answer is a resounding YES! This seems to be another = example=3D of > businesses cashing in on what was once a serious religious commitment to = =3D God. >=3D20 > =3D80=3D80=3D80I think you=3DB9re right. Thirty years ago, secular folk = in America rarel=3D y > bothered with ceremonies, civic or ecclesiastical. Now, after a year = or=3D two > of cohabitation, SOME kind of ceremony is de rigueur. A restaurant or = a > catering hall is a common venue. I continue to share your views! >=3D20 > Alan >=3D20     --B_3125494557_6690512 Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: From funerals to weddings</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">On 1/15/03 3:23 PM, = &quot;EchoGamba@aol.com&qu=3D ot; &lt;EchoGamba@aol.com&gt; wrote:<BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Comic Sans MS">it is only in the past = few ye=3D ars that hotels and the like have been issued with licences to carry out = act=3D ual wedding ceremonies prior to the wedding reception. <BR> <BR> =3D80=3D80=3D80That&#8217;s a bit of a foreign idea to an American. = &nbsp;To us, the bu=3D ilding, the room, or the forest glade where a wedding is held has nothing = to=3D do with it. &nbsp;SOMEbody (a judge, a clergyperson, or the Lord Mayor) = has=3D to officiate on half of the state (and on behalf of the religious body, = if =3D there is one involved); but WHERE he or she does it is not involved. = &nbsp;I=3D f I do a wedding on a beach, do I get a license from the lifeguard? = &nbsp;I&=3D #8217;ve had weddings at the Statue of Liberty, on the top floor of the = (lam=3D ented) World Trade Center, on a yacht on the Hudson River, in a meadow on = a =3D farm, etc. &nbsp;Authority to do so came from the civil authorities of the = s=3D tate in which the ceremony took place. &nbsp;(I&#8217;m not disagreeing = with=3D the Brit way; I&#8217;m just mildly bemused.)<BR> <BR> Is this just a new trend in the UK or is this happening all over the = world?=3D &nbsp;I suspect the answer is a resounding YES! &nbsp;This seems to be = anot=3D her example of businesses cashing in on what was once a serious religious = co=3D mmitment to God.<BR> <BR> =3D80=3D80=3D80I think you&#8217;re right. &nbsp;Thirty years ago, secular = folk in Amer=3D ica rarely bothered with ceremonies, civic or ecclesiastical. = &nbsp;&nbsp;No=3D w, after a year or two of cohabitation, SOME kind of ceremony is de = rigueur.=3D &nbsp;&nbsp;A restaurant or a catering hall is a common venue. &nbsp;I = cont=3D inue to share your views! &nbsp;<BR> <BR> Alan<BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman"><BR> </FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --B_3125494557_6690512--    
(back) Subject: Re: What are we playing on Sunday? From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:57:40 -0500   On 1/15/03 3:30 PM, "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:   > the well known chorale, "Three blind mice".   And what tune do you use for THAT one?   (Just kidding.)   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Sorry! The funeral isn't quite over! From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:00:06 -0500   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --B_3125494806_6705498 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit   On 1/15/03 3:40 PM, "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> wrote:   > The music will be dignified, but expressing hope a   (a) Choral (b) Instrumental (c ) None of the above   Tee hee   Alan, Univ. of Mich.   --B_3125494806_6705498 Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: Sorry! The funeral isn't quite over!</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">On 1/15/03 3:40 PM, &quot;John Foss&quot; = &lt;=3D harfo32@hotmail.com&gt; wrote:<BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">The music will be = dignified=3D , but expressing hope a <BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman"><BR> (a) &nbsp;Choral<BR> (b) &nbsp;Instrumental<BR> (c ) None of the above<BR> <BR> Tee hee<BR> <BR> Alan, Univ. of Mich.</FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --B_3125494806_6705498--    
(back) Subject: Re: What are we playing on Sunday? From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:05:56 -0800   The one in Mode 5, of course (giggle).   Bud   Alan Freed wrote: > > On 1/15/03 3:30 PM, "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > the well known chorale, "Three blind mice". > > And what tune do you use for THAT one? > > (Just kidding.) > > Alan > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: From funerals to weddings From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:13:48 -0600     --Boundary_(ID_hkAImn5kdnfKvBSAWgJiPA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=3DWINDOWS-1252; format=3Dflowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   Here in Canada (perhaps just in Manitoba though?), the building is=3D20 important to Anglicans - it takes really special dispensation from = the=3D20=3D   bishop for an Anglican priest to marry anyone outside a church, i.e. = no=3D20=3D   weddings out in the gazebo! But a licensed marriage person can marry=3D20 you anywhere on behalf of the state, sort of like the US model.   This has become so common that I have a whole travelling synthesizer=3D20 setup so that I can provide live music (piano, organ or=3D20 quasi-orchestral) for wedding services in any location. Not my = favorite=3D20=3D   trend but certainly part of the time we live in!   TTFN, Russ Greene   On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, at 03:55 PM, Alan Freed wrote:   > On 1/15/03 3:23 PM, "EchoGamba@aol.com" <EchoGamba@aol.com> wrote: > > it is only in the past few years that hotels and the like have been=3D20 > issued with licences to carry out actual wedding ceremonies prior = to=3D20=3D   > the wedding reception. > > =3D95=3D95=3D95That=3D92s a bit of a foreign idea to an American. (snip)   > Is this just a new trend in the UK or is this happening all over = the=3D20=3D   > world? =3DA0I suspect the answer is a resounding YES! =3DA0This seems to = =3D be=3D20 > another example of businesses cashing in on what was once a serious=3D20 > religious commitment to God.=3D   --Boundary_(ID_hkAImn5kdnfKvBSAWgJiPA) Content-type: text/enriched; charset=3DWINDOWS-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   Here in Canada (perhaps just in Manitoba though?), the building is important to Anglicans - it takes really special dispensation from the bishop for an Anglican priest to marry anyone outside a church, i.e. no weddings out in the gazebo! But a licensed marriage person can marry you anywhere on behalf of the state, sort of like the US model.     This has become so common that I have a whole travelling synthesizer setup so that I can provide live music (piano, organ or quasi-orchestral) for wedding services in any location. Not my favorite trend but certainly part of the time we live in!     TTFN,   Russ Greene     On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, at 03:55 PM, Alan Freed wrote:     <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Times New Roman</param>On 1/15/03 3:23 PM, "EchoGamba@aol.com" <<EchoGamba@aol.com> wrote:     </fontfamily><fontfamily><param>Comic Sans MS</param>it is only in the past few years that hotels and the like have been issued with licences to carry out actual wedding ceremonies prior to the wedding reception.     =3D95=3D95=3D95That=3D92s a bit of a foreign idea to an American. (snip)   </fontfamily></excerpt>   <excerpt><fontfamily><param>Comic Sans MS</param>Is this just a new trend in the UK or is this happening all over the world? =3DA0I suspect the answer is a resounding YES! =3DA0This seems to be another example of businesses cashing in on what was once a serious religious commitment to God.</fontfamily></excerpt>=3D   --Boundary_(ID_hkAImn5kdnfKvBSAWgJiPA)--  
(back) Subject: Some of Netscape 7's other wonderful features! From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:19:11 -0600   noel jones wrote: > I just moved to Netscape 7 and while floundering around found that it > automatically configures to send html mail....checked the OFF box .   Know what else you're going to discover about Netscape 7? If you're using it for EMAIL, you're going to find out that what you think is your EMAIL in your files is NOT yours after all, but that it's being stored online somewhere in Netscape's computers! And every effort I made to change that proved to be a real BAD Deal. And, if you want to save a LOT of old EMAIL like I do for future reference, it'll quickly tell you that your file space is full!   Take my advice and go back to Version 4.79, which is the LAST version where they let you keep YOUR EMAIL to YOURSELF!   Consider yourself warned.   Faithfully, -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Pipe Organ Builders 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL mailto:arp@starband.net SHOP SATELLITE EMAIL mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME OFFICE EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL    
(back) Subject: Re: HTML crap problem, still! From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:21:25 -0600   Wuxuzusu@aol.com wrote: > Greetings all,     > It is the LEAST I can do in this matter until technology catches up to = our problem.   And sometimes, Stan, the EASIEST Solution of all is to MOVE BACKWARDS. Please read my other post about Netscape 4.79. I have NO problems with HTML on that browser.   Faithfully,   G.A. -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Pipe Organ Builders 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL mailto:arp@starband.net SHOP SATELLITE EMAIL mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME OFFICE EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL    
(back) Subject: Re: funeral (Catholic) From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:28:36 -0500   On 1/15/03 3:55 PM, "Thomas Mohr" <thomasmohr@aon.at> wrote:   > Hi Folks, > > I thought I would like to contribute a little about Catholic funerals. = Or > better, funerals in Austria. > > The service at the funeral hall is usually quite brief, it's not a full = mass > (with communion and everything) just a small service ... then the = deceased is > transferred to the burying place where the deceased is finally blessed = and > the attendants make their condolence. Services and exhibitions at home = are > extremely rare, in fact I don't remember even one. As for the music, > sometimes it is canned (CDs), the more expensive funerals have singers = and an > organist. However, a singing quartett is not very seldom here.   Thank you, Thomas. It is a BIT like in (especially rural) America a = century ago. The body was laid out in the parlor of his home. Whatever service there was, was there as well. Now the Roman Catholics must have had a = mass soon after, at the church--but I'll have to let someone else tell of that.   My question is: WHEN does this take place (in Austria)? A day following the death? Sooner, later? > > A few days later there is the requiem, which is a full mass with a = special > liturgy and special hymns. At the anniversary of the death, sometimes a = mass > is dedicated to the deceased, but it has no special liturgy or so, it's = just > the priest says that this mass is hold for N.N. and N.N., whomever.   That sounds excellent! Especially the musical and liturgical aspects, = which can't be well done at home. > > The most important part of the funeral is the lunch afterwards, which = can get > quite "irish" dimensions, especially in the rural areas. In fact I = always > say you meet all relatives at three occasions in life:christenings, = weddings > and funeral   And THAT sounds excellent, too!--and quite American, if I may say so; perhaps the Irish have influenced both of us!   Alan > >    
(back) Subject: Re: funeral (Catholic) From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:16:45 -0500   Dear Alan, Well here in Pennsylvania, the body is taken to the church from the funeral home (3 day wake)and is placed in front of the altar. An entire Reqium Mass is said, communion distributed etc. After the service, = everyone who wishes is taken to the cemetery where the body is interred in the ground, with a flower from each of the close relatives placed on the = coffin, prayers for the dead spoken and the coffin lowered into the grave. Not = quite as bad as when I was an altar boy when the church was mostly Polish. At = that time, the people would sing a hymn about being placed into a cold dark grave. It was kind of scary for we kids. They don't sing that hymn anymore as far as I know on this side of the pond. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:28 PM Subject: Re: funeral (Catholic)     > On 1/15/03 3:55 PM, "Thomas Mohr" <thomasmohr@aon.at> wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I thought I would like to contribute a little about Catholic funerals. Or > > better, funerals in Austria. > > > > The service at the funeral hall is usually quite brief, it's not a = full mass > > (with communion and everything) just a small service ... then the deceased is > > transferred to the burying place where the deceased is finally blessed and > > the attendants make their condolence. Services and exhibitions at home are > > extremely rare, in fact I don't remember even one. As for the music, > > sometimes it is canned (CDs), the more expensive funerals have singers and an > > organist. However, a singing quartett is not very seldom here. > > Thank you, Thomas. It is a BIT like in (especially rural) America a century > ago. The body was laid out in the parlor of his home. Whatever service > there was, was there as well. Now the Roman Catholics must have had a mass > soon after, at the church--but I'll have to let someone else tell of = that. > > My question is: WHEN does this take place (in Austria)? A day = following > the death? Sooner, later? > > > > A few days later there is the requiem, which is a full mass with a special > > liturgy and special hymns. At the anniversary of the death, sometimes = a mass > > is dedicated to the deceased, but it has no special liturgy or so, = it's just > > the priest says that this mass is hold for N.N. and N.N., whomever. > > That sounds excellent! Especially the musical and liturgical aspects, which > can't be well done at home. > > > > The most important part of the funeral is the lunch afterwards, which can get > > quite "irish" dimensions, especially in the rural areas. In fact I always > > say you meet all relatives at three occasions in life:christenings, weddings > > and funeral > > And THAT sounds excellent, too!--and quite American, if I may say so; > perhaps the Irish have influenced both of us! > > Alan > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Some of Netscape 7's other wonderful features! From: "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:33:27 -0500   At 04:19 PM 15/01/2003 -0600, Arp wrote: >Know what else you're going to discover about Netscape 7? If you're >using it for EMAIL, you're going to find out that what you think is your >EMAIL in your files is NOT yours after all, but that it's being stored >online somewhere in Netscape's computers!   If that were true, Netscape would have to pull messages from your =   ISP's server to your computer, upload them to another server, and then delete them from your machine. Good plot for a nightmare, but not likely to hit the real world.     >And, if you want to save a >LOT of old EMAIL like I do for future reference, it'll quickly tell you >that your file space is full!   Yes, most ISP's place a limit on the size of their customer's mailbox space. Used to be 2 megs, then 5 megs, now some are 25...but this =   still isn't Netscape's server. This is your ISP's mail server.     >Take my advice and go back to Version 4.79, which is the LAST version >where they let you keep YOUR EMAIL to YOURSELF!   Again, not quite. Before you have heart attacks, would users of Netscape 7 please follow these directions to remedy the problem:   1) click the Edit menu up top in your program 2) select Preferences 3) select the "Offline & Disk Space" option, bottom of the options at the left 4) look at the "When going offline:" option in the top "Offline" = area 5) click the radio button (round dot) to enable "Automatically download messages for offline use" 6) click OK     The option to leave mail on the server isn't new. It's useful = for people who routinely check their mail from two or more machines. My = laptop leaves mail on the server, while my desktop system deletes mail after downloading. It allows me to deal with new messages while I'm on the = road, but keeps my space on the ISP servers cleaned out while I'm at home.   Have fun! Ad ;->