PipeChat Digest #3385 - Friday, January 17, 2003
 
Re: From funerals to weddings
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: From funerals to weddings
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Drive Throughs
  by "Gary A. Raish" <garfd@ptdprolog.net>
Re: Drive Throughs--non-organic
  by "Gary A. Raish" <garfd@ptdprolog.net>
"DIscofication" of compositions
  by "Thomas Mohr" <thomasmohr@aon.at>
Re: "DIscofication" of compositions
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Complete Bach CD Set?
  by "John Jarvis" <jjarvis@attbi.com>
Weddings and wierd music
  by <EchoGamba@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: From funerals to weddings From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 21:05:47 EST     --part1_f9.284e0c6c.2b58befb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/16/03 7:45:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, vze2myh5@verizon.net writes:     Charlie said "Excuse me" to the couple, went over and stood (dunno how = long) at the base of the scaffold with arms folded until the photog climbed = down. Charlie then returned to the chancel and continued.   My very favorite photographer story is from an RC wedding. The soloist = was singing and the photographer, trying to be inconspicuous I suppose, came creeping up the side aisle toward her. His camera was hidden under his coat, so she apparently did not recognize him as the photographer. She =   looked up from her music and froze, with her mouth open in readiness for = the next word. The next word didn't happen. The photographer stood up = quickly to take her picture to which she responded with an incredibly earth-shattering scream! It was really wonderful.       Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502     --part1_f9.284e0c6c.2b58befb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica>In a message dated 1/16/03 7:45:01 PM = Eastern Standard Time, vze2myh5@verizon.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR>Charlie said "Excuse me" to the couple, went over and stood (dunno how = long) at the base of the scaffold with arms folded until the photog = climbed down. Charlie <BR>then returned to the chancel and continued.<FONT SIZE=3D3> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>My very favorite photographer story is from an RC wedding. = &nbsp;&nbsp;The soloist was singing and the photographer, trying to be = inconspicuous I suppose, came creeping up the side aisle toward her. = &nbsp;&nbsp;His camera was hidden under his coat, so she apparently did = not recognize him as the photographer. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;She looked = up from her music and froze, with her mouth open in readiness for the next = word. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The next word didn't happen. &nbsp;The = photographer stood up quickly to take her picture to which she responded = with an incredibly earth-shattering scream! &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It was = really wonderful. <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_f9.284e0c6c.2b58befb_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: From funerals to weddings From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:20:36 +1300   It would not have been offensive, in my view, if he were a Jew, to ask him to take his hat off, as he would not have acknowledged the Church as other than a heretical assembly worshipping a false Messiah. If people come into the house I am in charge of, then they are expected to follow the customs = of that house, be it the Church I am Vicar or my own home. The photographer concerned made it clear he followed no faith at all and that was why he couldn't see why I wouldn't let him wear his hat. Ross -----Original Message----- From: quilisma@socal.rr.com <quilisma@socal.rr.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: Re: From funerals to weddings     >Um, Ross, I wouldn't have chosen THAT particular place to draw a line in >the sand ... what if he was an Orthodox Jew? In THAT case, your actions >would have been offensive in the extreme, yes/no? > >We have a Jewish man who attends Mass with his anglo-catholic wife every >Sunday. And every Sunday he wears a dashing beret in church. Doesn't >seem to bother anybody. > >Cheers, > >Bud > >Ross & Lynda Wards wrote: >> >> Same here. I do not use the term "Funeral Director" for an undertaker, >> either. My job, as Vicar, is to direct the funeral. >> >> I remember a stand-up row I had with a photographer at a wedding a year ago. >> He wanted to wear his hat in the church and I forbade it. The problem = was >> solved when I got the bride's father to tell the photographer he'd = rather >> have no photographs at all than put up with the photographer's hat, and that >> he'd get no fee if he didn't begin to behave himself immediately. >> >> Incidentally, that photographer's head was almost completely bald and white, >> as if he'd never had his head in the sun at all. >> >> Hilarious, sort of. >> >> Ross >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alan Freed <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> >> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> >> Date: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:44 AM >> Subject: Re: From funerals to weddings >> >> >On 1/16/03 1:51 PM, "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> wrote: >> > >> >> I'm NOT the DOer. < >> > >> >Maybe I should have mentioned one more (sometimes delicate) subject: The >> >Wedding Coordinator. He/She can do his thing at the reception, and, = if the >> >bride wishes, in the narthex (sending the procession up the aisle, or >> >afterward lining people up for a reception line). But he/she can be sure >> >that he/she has NO function in the nave or the chancel at all. I can >> handle >> >the ceremony all by myself, thank you. >> > >> >Alan >> > >> > >> > >> >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> > >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Drive Throughs From: "Gary A. Raish" <garfd@ptdprolog.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:24:12 -0500   Please note the correct spelling of cemetery -- just remember, 3 e's and = you are dead!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Yoder" <vze2myh5@verizon.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:58 AM Subject: Re: Drive Throughs     > All of this reminds me of the cult movie "The Loved One," with Jonathan Winters, et al. One scene is > in the chapel of the cemetary (LA's Forest Lawn, thinly disguised). A wedding is in progress. The > control room staff is eyeing the clock and turns on a large "CUT" sign = on the rear wall, visible > only to the cleric (Ed Reimers, I believe.) He hurriedly finishes the ceremony, and while the canned > Mendelssohn plays the wedding party exits via a front side door. Simultaneously, a funeral > congregation enters from the rear, a black drape unrolls behind the = altar, the casket slides out > from under the altar, during all of which Reimers lights a quick = cigarette from a nearby candleabra. > Lugubrious music is then heard. > > This flick was advertised as having "something to offend everybody." The cemetary's casket room was > overseen by Liberace. Rod Steiger also starred. Hilarious, if sick. > > Stan Yoder > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Drive Throughs--non-organic From: "Gary A. Raish" <garfd@ptdprolog.net> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 23:28:51 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_003E_01C2BDB7.06FCF0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi Monty, Just read your note stating that you are a funeral director -- me too!! = =3D Where are you from? Are you also an organist? Yes, I totally agree =3D that the cheesy background taped music gives the organ poor =3D "advertisement"... Where I work we do have an organ (actually two). =3D They are not the best of instruments but do well for what we need. We =3D use the organ about 20 times a year. We always ask the families if they = =3D would like an organist. It used to be that we had an organist for every = =3D service but then with the FTC itemization we began asking. In our =3D larger viewing room (which we use for most services) we have a Yamaha =3D console organ. It really does have a nice sound/tone and works well for = =3D what we need - mostly background music with occasional hymn singing or =3D soloist accompaniment. In the other room we have a Hammond - antique =3D but still works fine. Looking forward to hearing back from you. Gary ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: RMB10@aol.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:19 PM Subject: Re: Drive Throughs--non-organic     Re: "The Loved One" as mentioned in Stan Yoder's post.... As a funeral director, I have seen and heard all sorts of funny stuff, = =3D but I've seen that movie several times, and each time it gets funnier. = =3D20   On an organic note, it's the cheesy "organ" music in the background =3D that gives people such a bad stereotype about what the organ really =3D sounds like.   Monty Bennett=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_003E_01C2BDB7.06FCF0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2713.1100" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi Monty,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Just read your note stating that you = =3D are a funeral=3D20 director -- me too!!&nbsp; Where are you from?&nbsp; Are you also an=3D20 organist?&nbsp; Yes, I totally agree that the cheesy background taped =3D music=3D20 gives the organ poor "advertisement"...&nbsp; Where I work we do have an = =3D organ=3D20 (actually two).&nbsp; They are not the best of instruments but do well =3D for what=3D20 we need.&nbsp; We use the organ about 20 times a year.&nbsp; We always =3D ask the=3D20 families if they would like an organist.&nbsp; It used to be that we had = =3D an=3D20 organist for every service but then with the FTC itemization we began=3D20 asking.&nbsp; In our larger viewing room (which we use for most =3D services) we=3D20 have a Yamaha console organ.&nbsp; It really does have a nice sound/tone = =3D and=3D20 works well for what we need - mostly background music with occasional =3D hymn=3D20 singing or soloist accompaniment.&nbsp; In the other room we have a =3D Hammond -=3D20 antique but still works fine.&nbsp; Looking forward to hearing back from = =3D   you.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Gary</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DRMB10@aol.com =3D href=3D3D"mailto:RMB10@aol.com">RMB10@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 16, =3D 2003 2:19=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Drive=3D20 Throughs--non-organic</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 =3D face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">Re:&nbsp; "The Loved One" as mentioned in Stan = =3D Yoder's=3D20 post....<BR>As a funeral director, I have seen and heard all sorts of = =3D funny=3D20 stuff, but I've seen that movie several times, and each time it = gets=3D20 funnier.&nbsp; <BR><BR>On an organic note, it's the cheesy "organ" =3D music in=3D20 the background that gives people such a bad stereotype about what the = =3D organ=3D20 really sounds like.<BR><BR>Monty Bennett</FONT>=3D20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_003E_01C2BDB7.06FCF0A0--    
(back) Subject: "DIscofication" of compositions From: "Thomas Mohr" <thomasmohr@aon.at> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:52:12 +0100   Hi all,   week is almost over and I've got a bit time to participate in the list.=20 Recently I had a discussion with a composer about "discofication" of=20 compositions. With discofication I mean the use of pieces of classical st= yle=20 music by e.g. rockbands, popbands resp. an adaption of style of a composi= tion=20 to the style of entertainment music.   I think it is legitimate, provided some rules are kept (e.g. approval of = the=20 original composer, due credit and due participation in royalties, etc.). = I=20 also think that it can be quite of value, since it is a channel to reach = more=20 people than it would be possible by other means.   Well, I'm looking forward to your opinions !   Thomasp         --=20 DI Thomas Mohr Institute of Cancer Research - Vienna University Borschkegasse 8a A-1090 Vienna Austria Tel ++43 (1) 4277 65160 Fax ++43 (1) 4277 65196  
(back) Subject: Re: "DIscofication" of compositions From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:05:41 -0800   I'm not sure if I should tell THIS story or not (grin), but I will:   At one point in my life, I was a typesetter in a graphics house that produced a variety of newspapers and magazines, including a couple of "alternative lifestyle" ones, and a "swingers'" magazine (chuckle).   By and by, it fell to me to review movies for the various publications .... in one instance, the movie was a rather ... um ... well, YOU know (grin).   I flipped it on, to be greeted by ... well, you get the picture ... but the SOUNDTRACK was the disco version of "Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring" .... I laughed so hard I spilled my popcorn (a necessary adjunct to writing these reviews).   I must confess, that, thirty years later, I STILL have difficulty playing "Jesu, Joy" in CHURCH with a straight face (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   Thomas Mohr wrote: > > Hi all, > > week is almost over and I've got a bit time to participate in the list. > Recently I had a discussion with a composer about "discofication" of > compositions. With discofication I mean the use of pieces of classical = style > music by e.g. rockbands, popbands resp. an adaption of style of a = composition > to the style of entertainment music. > > I think it is legitimate, provided some rules are kept (e.g. approval of = the > original composer, due credit and due participation in royalties, etc.). = I > also think that it can be quite of value, since it is a channel to reach = more > people than it would be possible by other means. > > Well, I'm looking forward to your opinions ! > > Thomasp > > -- > DI Thomas Mohr > Institute of Cancer Research - Vienna University > Borschkegasse 8a > A-1090 Vienna > Austria > Tel ++43 (1) 4277 65160 > Fax ++43 (1) 4277 65196 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Complete Bach CD Set? From: "John Jarvis" <jjarvis@attbi.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 00:49:18 -0800   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0001_01C2BDC2.44A38F30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I have several CDs of Bach organ music played on various organs by several different players. I have been entertaining the idea of purchasing one of the "Complete Bach" organ CD sets. Does anyone have a recommendation of one set over another?   JJ     ------=3D_NextPart_000_0001_01C2BDC2.44A38F30 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <html>   <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dus-ascii">     <meta name=3D3DGenerator content=3D3D"Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)">   <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style>   </head>   <body lang=3D3DEN-US link=3D3Dblue vlink=3D3Dpurple>   <div class=3D3DSection1>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>I have several CDs of Bach organ music played on =3D various organs by several different players.&nbsp; I have been entertaining the = =3D idea of purchasing one of the &#8220;Complete Bach&#8221; organ CD sets. =3D &nbsp;Does anyone have a recommendation of one set over another?</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial><span =3D style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'>JJ</span></font></p>   </div>   </body>   </html>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0001_01C2BDC2.44A38F30--    
(back) Subject: Weddings and wierd music From: <EchoGamba@aol.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 04:00:11 EST     --part1_146.8117eb2.2b59201b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   I don't know if I have already mentioned this on the list, so forgive me = if I am repeating myself.   On the 21st of December 2002 I played (not suprisingly) my last wedding of =   the year. The Brides name was Honour Leigh, and therefore the groom = decided to put in a rather strange request. He decided that he would like the opening notes from the Wagner Bridal March (der, der, d'der, der, deeeeer, =   der) as the bride appeared at the main entrance of the church, and then = slip into................Puff the magic dragon!!! I protested about this to = the vicar, (who by the way thrives on controversy) but reluctantly agreed to = play it. Only the groom and the best man were expecting this rendition, so you =   can imagine who the congregation looked at when they heard this familiar tune!   For any confused readers, 'Puff the magic dragon' lived in 'Honour Leigh'. = Isn't that song all about the effects one might experience through drug usage?   Paul EchoGamba@AOL.com   --part1_146.8117eb2.2b59201b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">I don't know if I have already mentioned this on = the list, so forgive me if I am repeating myself.<BR> <BR> On the 21st of December 2002 I played (not suprisingly) my last wedding of = the year.&nbsp; The Brides name was Honour Leigh, and therefore the groom = decided to put in a rather strange request.&nbsp; He decided that he would = like the opening notes from the Wagner Bridal March (der, der, d'der, der, = deeeeer, der) as the bride appeared at the main entrance of the church, = and then slip into................Puff the magic dragon!!!&nbsp; I = protested about this to the vicar, (who by the way thrives on controversy) = but reluctantly agreed to play it.&nbsp; Only the groom and the best man = were expecting this rendition, so you can imagine who the congregation = looked at when they heard this familiar tune!<BR> <BR> For any confused readers, 'Puff the magic dragon' lived in 'Honour = Leigh'.&nbsp; Isn't that song all about the effects one might experience = through drug usage?<BR> <BR> Paul<BR> EchoGamba@AOL.com</FONT></HTML>   --part1_146.8117eb2.2b59201b_boundary--