PipeChat Digest #3393 - Monday, January 20, 2003
 
Re: LSD
  by <EchoGamba@aol.com>
Re: Early Spanish Music
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Re: Early Spanish Music
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Pipe Organ insurance
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Epiphany II (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Epiphany II (X-posted)
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Canyons, prairies
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Trouble with Holtkamp
  by "Jim Clouser" <CromorneCipher@hotmail.com>
Re:A Comprehensive Cavaille-Coll opus list
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Trouble with Holtkamp
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Trouble with Holtkamp
  by "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
weird organs (was "Trouble With Holtkamp")
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: LSD From: <EchoGamba@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 06:58:25 EST     --part1_12e.20a83867.2b5bece1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/18/03 1:57:59 PM Pacific Standard Time, cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk writes:     > Hello, > > Paul Macartney insists that "Lucy in the sky with > diamonds" (LSD) originated from his tiny daughter, who > came home with a painting. >   Hello Colin and listers,   Just for the record, it was John Lennon's son, Julian, who came home with = a picture of 'Lucy in the Sky with diamonds'. It was also John Lennon who defended the song against people who believed it to be LSD related. Like = you Colin, I believe him ;-)   Paul. EchoGamba@AOL.com   --part1_12e.20a83867.2b5bece1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 1/18/03 1:57:59 PM Pacific = Standard Time, cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk writes:<BR> <BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hello,<BR> <BR> Paul Macartney insists that "Lucy in the sky with<BR> diamonds" (LSD) originated from his tiny daughter, who<BR> came home with a painting.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> Hello Colin and listers,<BR> <BR> Just for the record, it was John Lennon's son, Julian, who came home with = a picture of 'Lucy in the Sky with diamonds'.&nbsp; It was also John = Lennon who defended the song against people who believed it to be LSD = related.&nbsp; Like you Colin, I believe him ;-)<BR> <BR> Paul.<BR> EchoGamba@AOL.com<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_12e.20a83867.2b5bece1_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Early Spanish Music From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 07:59:39 -0500   Right off the bat, there's an Oxford volume of early Iberian music (ed. by David Rastall?), and Baerenreiter has a volume or two in their Vox Humana series. There are also two of the four volumes of "Antologia de organistas espanolas del XVII Secolo" from the Biblioteca Central de Barcelona, = edited by Higinio Angles, still in print. All of these are far better edited than the Bonnet volume- all written on two staves, as they should be for modern use (much of the repertoire was originally written in open score using moveable C clefs, which makes it a little tough!). Cabezon and Cabanilles are available cheap from Masters Music. The "Antologia" volumes are a little harder to find-any good dealer should be able to get the others = with no problem- but they're not impossible. Broude Brothers Ltd. (broude@sover.net) has them, for instance.   Early Iberian organs are very interesting instruments. They're not quite = as stereotyped as Italian organs, but they follow a similar pattern. More = than one manual is unusual, and pedals are rare. The organs are generally on = low pressure, with low cut-ups and straight-line scaling in the principal chorus, leading to a relaxed sound that gets brighter as the mixtures (which are grouped, not on separate slides like the Italians) are added. Pungent tierces/cornets are common, and the reeds (en chamade, or not) are well known to part hair. Keyboards are divided between c' and c#', and = many pieces use solos in either the right or left hand. Those of us with more than one manual can do these pieces on two, of course.   Good luck- it's fascinating repertoire. It's always interesting to me that when I hear early Iberian repertoire, my first impression is "wow, this is Spanish" even before guessing a date of composition. There are wonderful moments where 4/4 bars are broken up as 3+3+2, roulades come in quintuplets, and all kinds of other rhythmic devices that are quite different from contemporary repertoire from other regions.   Paul Opel     >Hello All! > Could anyone reccomend some specific volumes I could purchase in order >to get a good selection of Early Spanish Music and the like by such >composers as Cabezon, Cabanilles, Correa, etc? Volumes with multiple >composers would be good as well as specific volumes within complete >works sets. > > >As Always, Thanks for your help. >Beau Surratt, Organist >St. Peter's UCC, >Elmhurst,IL >Organ Performance Major, >Northern Illinois University, >DeKalb,IL > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     http://www.sover.net/~popel/agomain.html      
(back) Subject: Re: Early Spanish Music From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:28:32 -0500   On 1/19/03 7:59 AM, "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> wrote:   > 4/4 bars are broken up as 3+3+2   Paul, is that, then, the origin of the rhumba? Or vice versa?   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Organ insurance From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:31:15 EST   Best to insure it for replacement value. If you don't, and something happens, you may never replace it.  
(back) Subject: Epiphany II (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:52:09 -0800   St. Matthew's Anglican Catholic Church 2300 Ford Road (at Bonita Canyon and Prairie Roads) Newport Beach CA USA   Sung Mass at 9 a.m.   Voluntary - Adoro te devote - Everett Titcomb Hymn - How Bright Appears the Morning Star - Wie schoen leuchtet Setting - Willan / Scottish Chant Gradual - Misit Dominus - Tone 6 with fauxbourdons Alleluia - Vox facta est de caelis - Tone 6 with fauxbourdons Anthem - O Magnify the Lord - Carrie Adams Communion Anthem - Come Unto Me - E.S. Lorenz Hymn - Songs of Thankfulness and Praise - Salzburg Orison - Day By Day - Sumner Hymn - Hail to the Lord's Anointed - Woodbird Voluntary - Improvisation on "Woodbird"   No High Mass today on account of the Annual Meeting at 10:30 a.m., so the 9:00 Mass was absolutely JAMMED. We began a 7:45 a.m. Mass today, but it really wasn't a fair test (we only had about a dozen people), since almost everybody came to the 9:00 Mass so they could go to the Annual Meeting.   Those two anthems have become something of a tradition on the Sunday of the Annual Meeting ... OUTRAGEOUS Victoriana, with solos, duets, and trios ... something for everybody (grin); "O Magnify the Lord" ends with a big chorus in WALTZ time (chuckle). And yes, every year they vote to pass the increases in the music budget AND my SALARY (grin).   This was my first Sunday back playing since I was hospitalized after Christmas; I must say, I was glad there was only ONE Mass.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Re: Epiphany II (X-posted) From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:04:43 -0500   On 1/19/03 6:52 PM, "quilisma@socal.rr.com" <quilisma@socal.rr.com> wrote:   > Canyon and Prairie   Bud, I've been to Newport Beach a few times, back in my Navy days in the mid-late 50s. Fun place. But I can't remember anything that suggested "canyon" or "prairie." What's the deal?   Alan      
(back) Subject: Canyons, prairies From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 16:24:12 -0800   Hmmm ... probably because none of that was THERE in the '50s (grin) ... this is a new upscale housing tract that's just been developed in the past few years ... average price of a home: $500K. Bonita Canyon the *CANYON* was there, but there was no ROAD running through it. "Prairie"? Who knows (grin). Maybe there were prairie dogs (chuckle).   It's just off the new 73 toll-road, which snakes through Laguna Hills between the 405 and Pacific Coast Highway.   Cheers,   Bud   Alan Freed wrote: > > On 1/19/03 6:52 PM, "quilisma@socal.rr.com" <quilisma@socal.rr.com> = wrote: > > > Canyon and Prairie > > Bud, I've been to Newport Beach a few times, back in my Navy days in the > mid-late 50s. Fun place. But I can't remember anything that suggested > "canyon" or "prairie." What's the deal? > > Alan > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Trouble with Holtkamp From: "Jim Clouser" <CromorneCipher@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 22:21:23 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000B_01C2C009.19C89690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hey gang,   I am having some trouble with my Holtkamp at church. I went to hit a =3D piston today, and when i did, I heard the reservoire snap shut and the =3D manual turned dead. I turned the instrument off, waited 10 seconds, =3D turned it back on and it was fine. I hit the piston again, *SNAP*, =3D nothing! So for my postlude, I had to manual pull my stops. Does =3D anyone have any idea what could be causing this? Possibly a glitch in =3D the SSL? I'd hate to have to have Holtkamp come out if I can fix it =3D with relative ease! Thanks a lot!   Jim Clouser BM candidate, Cleveland Institute of Music Music Director/Organist Reformation Lutheran Evangelical Church Eastlake, Ohio ------=3D_NextPart_000_000B_01C2C009.19C89690 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey gang,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I am having some trouble with my =3D Holtkamp at=3D20 church.&nbsp; I went to hit a piston today, and when i did, I heard = the=3D20 reservoire snap shut and the manual turned dead.&nbsp; I turned the =3D instrument=3D20 off, waited 10 seconds, turned it back on and it was fine.&nbsp; I hit =3D the=3D20 piston again,&nbsp;*SNAP*, nothing!&nbsp; So for my postlude, I had to =3D manual=3D20 pull my stops.&nbsp; Does anyone have any idea what could be causing =3D this?&nbsp;=3D20 Possibly a glitch in the SSL?&nbsp; I'd hate to have to have Holtkamp =3D come out=3D20 if I can fix it with relative ease!&nbsp; Thanks a lot!<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Jim Clouser<BR>BM candidate, = Cleveland =3D Institute of=3D20 Music</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Music Director/Organist</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Reformation Lutheran Evangelical=3D20 Church<BR>Eastlake, Ohio</DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_000B_01C2C009.19C89690--  
(back) Subject: Re:A Comprehensive Cavaille-Coll opus list From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 22:36:16 -0500   Dear pipechatters:   I found a comprehensive opus list of most of the Cavaille Coll output. It includes instruments in France, as well as those sent out of that country. I think this might be useful as the original venue and moves second hand, fates of some, dates of installation and refurbishment work were given.   http://backoffice.andante.com/Cavaille/ccorglista.html   http://www.cavaille-coll.com   I thought especially of Andres while posting this, because several of the organs went to and near his neck of the woods.   The specifications were not given, but the size may give some idea of what each organ contained. He had a definate pecking order of which stops to include as the number of them increased, a formula if you wish. The number of stops per division were given including transmissions to the pedal. The organs were designated G.O., O. Ch. and O.S. which I take to be Grande Orgue Orgue de Choire, and Orgue de Salon. I hope you find it as interesting as I did. Find your lost CC.   You may share with other lists.   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Trouble with Holtkamp From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 22:48:06 -0500   Dear Jim:   Call Holtkamp. He can advise your organ tech. as to how to fix your problem. Don't even think of tinkering around yourself. It could be a ground come loose, or any number of things. Let them handle it.   If you can do without the piston for awhile all the better, don't use it until it's repaired.   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Trouble with Holtkamp From: "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 23:09:47 -0500   I would think if it's a fairly new SSL relay (I assume you mean Solid State Logic) I would call your Holtkamp rep and get him out there post haste. I wouldn't advise tinkering in one of those relays (if it's anything like the one I used to have on an organ here in Florida).   You didn't say whether or not it was just one piston or all -- could make a difference     > Jim Clouser wrote: > > Hey gang, > > I am having some trouble with my Holtkamp at church. I went to hit a > piston today, and when i did, I heard the reservoire snap shut and the > manual turned dead. I turned the instrument off, waited 10 seconds, > turned it back on and it was fine. I hit the piston again, *SNAP*, > nothing! So for my postlude, I had to manual pull my stops. Does > anyone have any idea what could be causing this? Possibly a glitch in > the SSL? I'd hate to have to have Holtkamp come out if I can fix it > with relative ease! Thanks a lot! > Jim Clouser > BM candidate, Cleveland Institute of Music > Music Director/Organist > Reformation Lutheran Evangelical Church > Eastlake, Ohio   -- Tom Hoehn, Organist http://theatreorgans.com/tomhoehn Tampa Theatre, Tampa, FL Roaring Twenties Pizza and Pipes (substitute) First United Methodist Church, Clearwater, FL CFTOS/Manasota/OATOS/HiloBay/CIC-ATOS/VotS-ATOS    
(back) Subject: weird organs (was "Trouble With Holtkamp") From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 20:43:19 -0800   Reminds me of a funny story: two or three organs ago, St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Winter Haven FL had a DREADFUL old Austin (not the Austin's fault, BTW) ... they'd bought the Swell, Great, and part of the Pedal from a 4-manual Austin somewhere in West Virginia, c. 1930, and installed it with a 2-manual Austin console.   During WWII, some downy-bird organist decided he just HAD to have 3 manuals; now, all the LEGITIMATE organ-builders were building war materials ... Moller was building bomb-sights, I think ... don't remember what Austin was doing.   But said downy-bird organist found himself a downy-bird organ cobbler, who added a termite-ridden Wurlitzer unit chest, three ranks of pipes (flute, string, clarinet), jacked the Austin console up, shoved a third manual into its midsection, and called the job done. The church eventually had to be TENTED on account of the termites.   The console and the relays were a MESS ... wires festooned EVERYWHERE; the ONLY reliable stop on the ENTIRE organ was the Great 8' Clarabella; at any given time, pressing any given stop-tab might result in (1) a chime ringing, (2) the swell box opening and closing rapidly, or (3) the full organ coming on. The wind system leaked so badly that the hiss that accompanied the opening of the swell box was the choir's signal to STAND (grin). The combination action was LONG-dead, except for the crescendo pedal and the full organ button.   The rector (an organist) eventually plastered over access to the organ chamber, and informed the Vestry he wasn't spending another penny on the beast. Sure enough, the following Easter, there was a fire in the chamber. The fire brigade had to break an attic window in the north transept (where the chamber was located) to put out the fire.   He got his Aeolian-Skinner (grin) ... 3 manuals, with the Positive prepared for; sadly, THAT organ and the church burned to the ground the NIGHT the organ was finally completed (fire set by a vagrant ... nothing to do with the organ THIS time). I understand they have a rather nice 3m Harrison & Harrison in the new church, which was built from the blueprints of the original building.   Hanging in my present choir loft is a picture of me, c. 1960, and a list of Lenten RECITALS I played on the Austin to raise money for the Aeolian-Skinner. I must have been OUT OF MY MIND (chuckle) ... ah, youth!   Cheers,   Bud