PipeChat Digest #3396 - Wednesday, January 22, 2003
 
Can you get married in Heaven?
  by "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@optonline.net>
Johann Nepomuk David
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Peter Racine Fricker
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Old & stupid elders
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
RE: Hinge tape
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
RE: Peter Racine Fricker
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
Re: Peter Racine Fricker
  by "Angus Sinclair" <angsinc@oxford.net>
Hinge tape
  by "Itsnet" <rtadams@itsnet.com>
Re: Hinge tape
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Pipe Organ Project
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
Re: Hinge tape
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: Pipe Organ Project
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Paradigm shift [was Re: Hinge tape]
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: Pipe Organ Project
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
Re: Pipe Organ Project
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
 

(back) Subject: Can you get married in Heaven? From: "Marika E. Buchberger, LRPS" <marika57@optonline.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 07:35:02 -0500   Can You Get Married in Heaven?   On their way to get married, a young couple is involved in a fatal car accident. The couple find themselves sitting outside the Pearly Gates waiting for St. Peter to process them into Heaven. While waiting, they begin to wonder: Could they possibly get married in Heaven?   When St. Peter shows up, they asked him. St. Peter says, "I don't know. This is the first time anyone has asked. Let me go find out," and he leaves. The couple sat and waited for an answer....for a couple of months. While they waited, they discussed that IF they were allowed to get married in Heaven, SHOULD they get married, what with the eternal aspect of it all. "What if it doesn't work?" they wondered, "Are we stuck together FOREVER?"   After yet another month, St. Peter finally returns, looking somewhat bedraggled. "Yes," he informs the couple, "you CAN get married in Heaven." "Great!" said the couple, "But we were just wondering, what if things don't work out? Could we also get a divorce in Heaven?"   St. Peter, red-faced with anger, slams his clipboard onto the ground. "What's wrong?" asked the frightened couple.   "OH, COME ON!!" St. Peter shouts, "It took me three months to find a priest up here! Do you have ANY idea how long it'll take me to find a lawyer?     -- Jungian Type: INTJ Wireless: 201 747 4219      
(back) Subject: Johann Nepomuk David From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:22:47 +0000 (GMT)   Hello,   My bit about Johann Nepomuk David may have some significance, so I had better do a little more digging around on the subject.   I'm sure that I hadn't made all this up!   In fact, the information came from Philip Tordoff (Organist of Halifax PC here in the UK) many years ago, as we discussed various things in a bar; so things can happen to memory over that sort of time scale.   I cannot, for the life of me, think that I have got it wrong, because I do not play anything by David and had certainly never heard of him as an organ composer prior to that discussion.   The address at which I believe he may have lived, was actually the ancient castle at Dorset, and Philip Tordoff rather took the bull by the horns and knocked on the door! So it was, that he met the man face to face, when he was normally something of a recluse apparently and saw no-one.   In any event, it should not be difficult to re-check with Philip Tordoff.......   I will keep the list posted as developments unfold.   I even think....but this is very thin memory, that Mr Tordoff may well have an original manuscript, a signed copy or somesuch.....at the time, it seemed all very interesting, but we are talking possibly 30 years ago when I was young. Whatever the music was, Mr Tordoff (a remarkable virtuoso and brilliant sight-reader) found it very, very difficult.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> wrote: >   > > That is very interesting. Johann Nepomuk David was > Austrian, I think, and > was living in Leipzig during World War II. His > partita "Unuberwindlich > starke Held, Sankt Michael" was written at that > time. The desperate terror > and supplication one would feel being in a city onto > which bombs are raining > down is captured marvelously in the first movement, > I think. It's a > wonderful piece for Michaelmas. His son, Thomas > Christian David, wrote a > piece called "Dux Michael" that seems to be based on > the same chorale. I > don't know of any other organ settings of this > melody than those two. I > didn't know that he ever lived in England. >   >   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Peter Racine Fricker From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:27:48 +0000 (GMT)   Hello,   Fricker is not a common name in the UK.   Anyone called Fricker may well be related.   Relying totally on memory from a long time ago, I seem to associate the name Fricker with Leeds Town Hall, here in the UK......possibly Civic Organist?   I'm not really sure how I can check this out.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- RMaryman@aol.com wrote: > > > > I don't guess that he is/was related to the H A > Fricker who transcribed the > Sibelius "Finlandia" published by Schott, eH? > > Rick in VA >   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Old & stupid elders From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 09:31:57 -0600   jch wrote: > When we were young we thought we knew everything and our elders were old > and stupid...for some reason we either had enough common sense or = respect > not to show it...and it was amazing how much smarter these older folks = got > as we got older.   Nah!   We just knew they could (and would!) beat the crap out of us if we didn't listen. Then, as we figured out they weren't so dumb after all, it got easier to keep on listening!   Faithfully,   Grandpa Arp (who went through it all with his own 3 kids!) -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Pipe Organ Builders 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL mailto:arp@starband.net SHOP SATELLITE EMAIL mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME OFFICE EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL    
(back) Subject: RE: Hinge tape From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:14:29 -0500   Chapman Gonzalez wrote:   >I have, through your help, discovered something at The Library Store (on the web at <www.thelibrarystore.com>) that appears to be roughly the same product and have ordered some today.   Unfortunately, I don't know how to give a more specific URL from this site than what Chapman has provided; but if you would like to check for = yourself, under "Library supplies" in the right-hand column, click on "More" = (instead of "Book tape", which doesn't show it), then click on "Tape", and then on "Hinge tape".   This is good news-- although you will recall that Gamble tape came in several forms, depending on the number of pages you were dealing with. I don't see these variations here, so perhaps these products can serve only = a more limited set of circumstances, if they are similar at all. Hope springs eternal....      
(back) Subject: RE: Peter Racine Fricker From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:35:00 -0500   Colin laments:   > I'm not really sure how I can check this out.   Then he has become a prophet without honor in his own country. New Grove Dictionary of Music has a substantial article with a photo of him conducting.   Indeed British, he was born in London 1920, educated at St. Paul's School and the Royal College of Music, and served in World War II "posted to = India as an intelligence officer, after an intensive course in Japanese at the University of London." He was a protoge of Michael Tippett, also studying (on Tippett's recommendation) with Matyas Seiber, and in 1952 succeeded Tippett at Morley College, and from 1955 also taught composition at the = RCM. In 1964 he took what was supposedly a one-year appointment at the = University of California, Santa Barbara, but liked it so well that he stayed, while retaining ties with English musical life. He died in 1990.   His musical style, and the admiration of it, reflect a desire to move = beyond the provincial pastoralism of the Vaughan Williams school and to rejoin = the European musical tradition. (Although I like the English pastoral style, = I also like Leighton, in whom the same more cosmopolitan outlook prevailed. Nevertheless, I think there are interesting parallels between his vocal music and that of Howells). The article cites Bartok and Schoenberg, among others, as influences.        
(back) Subject: Re: Peter Racine Fricker From: "Angus Sinclair" <angsinc@oxford.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 13:22:28 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_01C2C219.4F86CB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Greetings,   Mr. Mitchell, you're thinking of Herbert A Fricker, who, according to the Encyclopedia of Music in Canada, was City Organist of Leeds from about = 1899 to 1917, when he moved to Canada and became the Organist at Metropolitan United Church Toronto (1917-1943).   Cheers Angus Sinclair     ------=3D_NextPart_000_01C2C219.4F86CB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <html><head></head><BODY bgcolor=3D3D"#FFFFFF"><p><font size=3D3D2 =3D color=3D3D"#000000" face=3D3D"Arial">Greetings,<br><br>Mr. Mitchell, = you're =3D thinking of Herbert A Fricker, who, according to the Encyclopedia of =3D Music in Canada, was City Organist of Leeds from about 1899 to 1917, =3D when he moved to Canada and became the Organist at Metropolitan United =3D Church Toronto<br>(1917-1943).<br><br>Cheers<br>Angus =3D Sinclair<br><br><br></p> </font></body></html> ------=3D_NextPart_000_01C2C219.4F86CB00--    
(back) Subject: Hinge tape From: "Itsnet" <rtadams@itsnet.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:21:35 -0700   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0169_01C2C210.CE0F7520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   What exactly does this stuff do, and how do you use it? Do you slice the = =3D spine and press this on the back edge of the pages? Is it for books, =3D too, or just music with a few pages?   Richard Adams ------=3D_NextPart_000_0169_01C2C210.CE0F7520 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>What exactly does this stuff do, and = =3D how do you use=3D20 it? Do you slice the spine and press this on the back edge of the pages? = =3D Is it=3D20 for books, too, or just music with a few pages?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Richard =3D Adams</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0169_01C2C210.CE0F7520--    
(back) Subject: Re: Hinge tape From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:27:16 -0800   Basically ... Gamble's used to sell do-it-yourself glue-backed cloth tape with 4, 8, or 16 (?) hinges to a signature; when they did it FOR you on the machine, they'd sew THROUGH the tape as well as glueing it to the pages, and sew the signatures together, making it virtually indestructible. I have W/S Bach books that were done in the 1960s that are still intact.   They could do books, too ... I had several organ hymnals done as well.   Somebody really SHOULD track down that machine, or come up with another one ... this is a CRYING need in the music world, and book binderies, for the most part, just don't seem to understand that the music has to lie FLAT in order for the re-binding to be of any use to US.   We bound all the copies in our entire choir library (close to a thousand titles) with plastic comb bindings and sturdy covers; it took us a year to do it, and it was tedious in the extreme; comb bindings work OK for THAT, since an anthem is probably used once a year; it's less satisfactory for things that are in constant use, like our funeral choirbooks ... I had those done at Kinko's three years ago because they're printed on heavier paper than our machine can punch, and some are already coming apart.   Cheers,   Bud   > Itsnet wrote: > > What exactly does this stuff do, and how do you use it? Do you slice > the spine and press this on the back edge of the pages? Is it for > books, too, or just music with a few pages? > > Richard Adams    
(back) Subject: Pipe Organ Project From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:27:26 EST     --part1_7b.7e105cd.2b6058ae_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   List,   Well, I finally get to post a little progress on my pipe organ project....   I think the last time I posted any progress it was when I was trying to = get the 2nd fan out of my blower. Following the advice of several, I ordered some Aerokroil and Silikroil. I was starting to get frustrated even after =   trying the Kroil products with the stubbornness of that inner fan. = Finally, I wrapped a plastic covered cable (I just happened to have one around for tying up the dog) around the pulley on the other end of the shaft and = bracing it with a length of 2x4 to keep the shaft from turning. I found that I = could get the fan to move slightly "around" the shaft. With persistence, I was able to get the fan turning stiffly on the shaft enough to move outward. Suddenly, it let go. That was well before Christmas.   I managed to get the 2hp motor off and out of the blower this afternoon. = It seemed that the panel closest to the motor was welded on, and I almost = came up and posted a question in that regard. Using a blade from the inside of =   the blower, I started cutting and peeling nasty greasy felt from the edge. = I'd strike the edge occasionally using a hammer and wood block. I decided = to spray Silikroil along the edge on both sides of this wall thinking that it =   might just be stuck. If it was welded on, I figured I would just make a = mess but wouldn't hurt anything.   I turned the blower housing over so the edge opposite the motor end was = down. Using the hammer and wood block, I struck along the edge a few times. I tho't I could see a slight bit of movement as evidenced by a mm more of = felt seen on the motor side of the housing. With persistence, I realized that = the panel was in fact moving. Lo and behold, it came out.   Now I have the hollow blower housing which is mounted on a couple old = 4x6's. The area around the motor mounts is filthy and greasy. There's a good coating of dried grease inside the housing as well as on the motor itself.   I have a few cans of "Foaming Engine Cleaner" with which I plan to spray = down everything and get it all cleaned up.   After that, I plan to take apart the 3 phase motor and get it cleaned out.   Next, I plan to spray paint everything and get some shiny new steel nuts, bolts, and washers with which to bolt it all back together.   I am having a little problem deciding whether to spray it all glossy black = or use the hunter green. It's not a theatre organ, so I want to spray it a "serious" color. Got any suggestions?   Thanks for the help thus far, Keith Zimmerman, M.D. Commerce, Georgia   --part1_7b.7e105cd.2b6058ae_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">List,<BR> <BR> Well, I finally get to post a little progress on my pipe organ = project....<BR> <BR> I think the last time I posted any progress it was when I was trying to = get the 2nd fan out of my blower.&nbsp; Following the advice of several, I = ordered some Aerokroil and Silikroil.&nbsp; I was starting to get = frustrated even after trying the Kroil products with the stubbornness of = that inner fan.&nbsp; Finally, I wrapped a plastic covered cable (I just = happened to have one around for tying up the dog) around the pulley on the = other end of the shaft and bracing it with a length of 2x4 to keep the = shaft from turning.&nbsp; I found that I could get the fan to move = slightly "around" the shaft.&nbsp; With persistence, I was able to get the = fan turning stiffly on the shaft enough to move outward.&nbsp; Suddenly, = it let go.&nbsp;&nbsp; That was well before Christmas.<BR> <BR> I managed to get the 2hp motor off and out of the blower this = afternoon.&nbsp; It seemed that the panel closest to the motor was welded = on, and I almost came up and posted a question in that regard.&nbsp; Using = a blade from the inside of the blower, I started cutting and peeling nasty greasy felt from the = edge.&nbsp; I'd strike the edge occasionally using a hammer and wood = block.&nbsp; I decided to spray Silikroil along the edge on both sides of = this wall thinking that it might just be stuck.&nbsp; If it was welded on, = I figured I would just make a mess but wouldn't hurt anything.<BR> <BR> I turned the blower housing over so the edge opposite the motor end was = down.&nbsp; Using the hammer and wood block, I struck along the edge a few = times.&nbsp; I tho't I could see a slight bit of movement as evidenced by = a mm more of felt seen on the motor side of the housing.&nbsp; With = persistence, I realized that the panel was in fact moving.&nbsp; Lo and = behold, it came out.<BR> <BR> Now I have the hollow blower housing which is mounted on a couple old = 4x6's.&nbsp; The area around the motor mounts is filthy and greasy.&nbsp; = There's a good coating of dried grease inside the housing as well as on = the motor itself.<BR> <BR> I have a few cans of "Foaming Engine Cleaner" with which I plan to spray = down everything and get it all cleaned up.<BR> <BR> After that, I plan to take apart the 3 phase motor and get it cleaned = out.<BR> <BR> Next, I plan to spray paint everything and get some shiny new steel nuts, = bolts, and washers with which to bolt it all back together.<BR> <BR> I am having a little problem deciding whether to spray it all glossy black = or use the hunter green.&nbsp; It's not a theatre organ, so I want to = spray it a "serious" color.&nbsp; Got any suggestions?<BR> <BR> Thanks for the help thus far,<BR> Keith Zimmerman, M.D.<BR> Commerce, Georgia</FONT></HTML>   --part1_7b.7e105cd.2b6058ae_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Hinge tape From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:38:38 -0600     Richard wrote:     > What exactly does this stuff do, and how do you use it? Do you slice the = spine and > press this on the back edge of the pages? Is it for books, too, or just = music with a few > pages? >   Gamble hinge tape was an adhesive backed cloth tape, with two or more pieces of tape sewed together down the middle. It was primarily intended for choral music, where the weakest part of the music was the fold. One cut off a just enough of the fold edge of an octavo off and used this tape to hold the pages together in proper order, by attaching each sheet of the octavo to the proper leaf of the tape.. The tape was available in different sizes, which would accomodate a different number of pages, from four (two sheets - two sides) through, IIRC, sixteen (eight sheets, two sides). At one of time the Gamble Hinged music company would purchase music of other publishers, and Gamble-ize the music, and resell it.   ns    
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Organ Project From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:56:03 EST     --part1_1d1.8ac596.2b605f63_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/22/03 3:28:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, Kzimmer0817@aol.com writes:     > I am having a little problem deciding whether to spray it all glossy = black > or use the hunter green. It's not a theatre organ, so I want to spray = it a > "serious" color. Got any suggestions? >   Taupe! ;-)   Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502     --part1_1d1.8ac596.2b605f63_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2>In a message dated = 1/22/03 3:28:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, Kzimmer0817@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I am having a = little problem deciding whether to spray it all glossy black or use the = hunter green. &nbsp;It's not a theatre organ, so I want to spray it a = "serious" color. &nbsp;Got any suggestions? <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"> <BR>Taupe! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_1d1.8ac596.2b605f63_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Paradigm shift [was Re: Hinge tape] From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:27:15 -0600       quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > Somebody really SHOULD track down that [Gamble hinging] machine, or come > up with another one ... this is a CRYING need in the music world, and = book > binderies, for the most part, just don't seem to understand that the = music > has to > lie FLAT in order for the re-binding to be of any use to US.   I'm guessing that in a few years, printed sheet music will be a thing of = the past, and you will for the most part print out your own copies, either off of the internet, of from a CD-ROM. In that day, I suspect that the ring-binder, with or without plastic page protector sleeves, will be the standard binding method for music.   ns    
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Organ Project From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:32:44 EST     --part1_54.8003c09.2b60760c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 1/22/2003 4:00:24 PM Central Standard Time, Cremona502@cs.com writes:   > Taupe! ;-)   I once had a green Vose Grand Piano and no one took it seriously. I guess = it was not the color for a "serious" instrument. Lee   --part1_54.8003c09.2b60760c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D"#400040" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated = 1/22/2003 4:00:24 PM Central Standard Time, Cremona502@cs.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D2 = FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Taupe!&nbsp; ;-) = </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#000000" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: = #ffffff" SIZE=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#400040" style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0"><BR> I once had a green Vose Grand Piano and no one took it seriously.&nbsp; I = guess it was not the color for a "serious" instrument.&nbsp; = Lee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_54.8003c09.2b60760c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Organ Project From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:51:58 -0600   If this is a Spencer, go the the Spencer site and download the manual. Pay particular attention to the instructions about the disc and seal around the motor shaft near the blower housing. See my recent posts about blowing oil out of the motor bearing. Roy Redman   Kzimmer0817@aol.com wrote:   > List, > > Well, I finally get to post a little progress on my pipe organ > project.... > > I think the last time I posted any progress it was when I was trying > to get the 2nd fan out of my blower. Following the advice of several, > I ordered some Aerokroil and Silikroil. I was starting to get > frustrated even after trying the Kroil products with the stubbornness > of that inner fan. Finally, I wrapped a plastic covered cable (I just > happened to have one around for tying up the dog) around the pulley on > the other end of the shaft and bracing it with a length of 2x4 to keep > the shaft from turning. I found that I could get the fan to move > slightly "around" the shaft. With persistence, I was able to get the > fan turning stiffly on the shaft enough to move outward. Suddenly, it > let go. That was well before Christmas. > > I managed to get the 2hp motor off and out of the blower this > afternoon. It seemed that the panel closest to the motor was welded > on, and I almost came up and posted a question in that regard. Using > a blade from the inside of the blower, I started cutting and peeling > nasty greasy felt from the edge. I'd strike the edge occasionally > using a hammer and wood block. I decided to spray Silikroil along the > edge on both sides of this wall thinking that it might just be stuck. > If it was welded on, I figured I would just make a mess but wouldn't > hurt anything. > > I turned the blower housing over so the edge opposite the motor end > was down. Using the hammer and wood block, I struck along the edge a > few times. I tho't I could see a slight bit of movement as evidenced > by a mm more of felt seen on the motor side of the housing. With > persistence, I realized that the panel was in fact moving. Lo and > behold, it came out. > > Now I have the hollow blower housing which is mounted on a couple old > 4x6's. The area around the motor mounts is filthy and greasy. > There's a good coating of dried grease inside the housing as well as > on the motor itself. > > I have a few cans of "Foaming Engine Cleaner" with which I plan to > spray down everything and get it all cleaned up. > > After that, I plan to take apart the 3 phase motor and get it cleaned > out. > > Next, I plan to spray paint everything and get some shiny new steel > nuts, bolts, and washers with which to bolt it all back together. > > I am having a little problem deciding whether to spray it all glossy > black or use the hunter green. It's not a theatre organ, so I want to > spray it a "serious" color. Got any suggestions? > > Thanks for the help thus far, > Keith Zimmerman, M.D. > Commerce, Georgia