PipeChat Digest #3401 - Sunday, January 26, 2003
 
Re: Organist fees
  by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk>
Re: Organist fees
  by "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com>
TAO articles on Durufl=E9 -- a must  read (x-posted)
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
Re: Organ Tours - Czech Republic
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Organ Tours - Czech Republic
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Organ Tours - Czech Republic(What Happened?)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
OHS convention hymn sing
  by "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Perspective - was RE: funeral fees
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net>
OHS Convention & Hymn Sing
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
RE: Organ Tours - Czech Republic
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Organ Tours - Czech Republic
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Organ Tours - Czech Republic(What Happened?)
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Czech Republic
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Czech organs
  by "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca>
Re: Funeral Fees
  by "Peter Harrison" <peter@phmusic.co.uk>
Re: Czech Republic
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Czech Republic Organ
  by "Antoni Scott" <ascott@ptd.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Organist fees From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:32:22 -0000   It's interesting how fees differ across the country. My first suit was pai= d for by playing for about 10 funerals in 2 weeks at the local funeral parlour....during study leave fro= m school!   Here in Whitehaven, Cumbria (not a well-to-do area) I receive =A330 for a = wedding, and =A320 for a funeral. For "ordinary" services I'll never ask for anything, but will accept anyth= ing given! Back in Edinburgh I used to do many =A350/=A360 weddings, and one =A3100... Them were the days= .....   Best wishes to all   Andrew Caskie UK   On 24 Jan 2003 at 23:52, Colin Mitchell wrote:   Hello,   Being organist in a fairly poor parish, I tend not to charge the full going rate for weddings and funerals.   However, the figures you mention are certainly in line with current levels of remuneration in the UK.   I have actually received double that figure for "up market" weddings, playing as a stand-in for the regular organist.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- EchoGamba@aol.com wrote: > Hello, >   I was receiving, in 2002, =A325 > for a funeral and =A335 for a > wedding, which I considered to be 'well paid'. This > has now been raised to > =A335 and =A345. Considering I have 60+ weddings booked > this year I am quite > pleased, but this seems to be a lot more than any > other organist receives in > my local area. (North East - UK) > > Can any other UK organist tell me if this sounds > about right?? >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Organist fees From: "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 06:57:58 -0600   Hello All! I figured I'd put my 2 cents in on the subject. I play at a large (~1300 member) United Church of Christ in Elmhurst, IL, a fairly wealthy suburb of Chicago. We have a funeral home owner in our congregation who does most if not all of the funerals that we have. Most often, funerals are held in the church rather than the funeral home. When I play for a service, I get a check from the funeral for between $100 and $125 usually and that's for playing only prelude music, 1 or two hymns , and a postlude, and rarely a bit more on occasion for larger services.     Blessings, Beau Surratt, Organist St. Peter's UCC, Elmhurst,IL Organ Performance Major, Northern Illinois University, DeKalb,IL     -----Original Message----- From: Chicaleee@aol.com To: pipechat@pipechat.org Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 21:05:18 EST Subject: Re: Organist fees   > The funeral homes here pay the organists, and it is included in the > "package" > bought by the family. The going rate here is $30. But I would still > rather > play for a funeral than a wedding. Lee >      
(back) Subject: TAO articles on Durufl=E9 -- a must read (x-posted) From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 08:38:43 EST     --part1_14d.1ac73d0b.2b63ed63_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi, Y'all!   Recently _The American Organist_ magazine has published a 2-article = feature on Maurice Durufle. Jim Frazier from Minneapolis has done an outstanding = job in his research, preparation and the writing of these two pieces. If you aren't a member of the Guild or subscribe to the magazine, these articles = are reason enough to join our professional organization.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea   --part1_14d.1ac73d0b.2b63ed63_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SCRIPT" = FACE=3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D"0">Hi, Y'all!<BR> <BR> Recently _The American Organist_ magazine has published a 2-article = feature on Maurice Durufle. Jim Frazier from Minneapolis has done an = outstanding job in his research, preparation and the writing of these two = pieces. If you aren't a member of the Guild or subscribe to the magazine, = these articles are reason enough to join our professional = organization.<BR> <BR> Yours,<BR> <BR> Darryl by the Sea</FONT></HTML>   --part1_14d.1ac73d0b.2b63ed63_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Tours - Czech Republic From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:12:42 -0500   Hi Stephen:   I have a large set of CD's of the Czech organs. I think you will find these charming in tone, with a great many of them small to intermediate, and in some form of comma meantone. The tone is refreshing very suitable for liturgical liturature, and fill the room with unforced delightful sound, in very alive acoustical environments. The music on the CD's goes from the 17th to the 20th centuries. The blend of these organs is ravishingly beautiful. I hope you enjoy them in person as I have from the recordings. You'll come away wondering why our organs don't sound as wonderful as that. It borders on the etherial.   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Tours - Czech Republic From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:12:45 -0500   Hi Stephen:   I have a large set of CD's of the Czech organs. I think you will find these charming in tone, with a great many of them small to intermediate, and in some form of comma meantone. The tone is refreshing very suitable for liturgical liturature, and fill the room with unforced delightful sound, in very alive acoustical environments. The music on the CD's goes from the 17th to the 20th centuries. The blend of these organs is ravishingly beautiful. I hope you enjoy them in person as I have from the recordings. You'll come away wondering why our organs don't sound as wonderful as that. It borders on the etherial.   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Tours - Czech Republic(What Happened?) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:32:31 -0500   I don't know what happened, but I sent only one copy of my reply, but two got recorded. A mystery!   Ron  
(back) Subject: OHS convention hymn sing From: "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:21:13 -0500   Dear Friendly Listers,   Seems like just about every time I try to do something good, I mess it up! Well--you know: it's sin!! It's the devil in me: he done it!! :-( and perhaps also ;-) At any rate, I now realize I forgot = to include word about our good list-buddy Bruce Cornley and the annual OHS = hymn sing which he has so wonderfully designed and which he'll lead on Saturday night 21 June at Mahoning Presbyterian Church in Danville PA.   Bruce has exercised obvious and impressive thought into a festival entitled "The Wind That God Has Given Us." It's an obvious allusion both to our bodily winding systems and to the = pipe organ's winding system. What has intrigued me for years is where there is any relationship about both of these to the symbol of the Holy Spirit as wind and which yields the Greek phrase St. Paul used, _odi pneumatiki_, "spiritual odes," in his discussion of "hymns, psalms and spiritual = songs." (No, it's NOT a homework assignment for Bruce to explain this!!) Hey, this might end up being one of the high points of the convention!! Bruce has caused a number of new descants to be composed for this festival, and I surely look forward to them. We'll sing a new tune or = two by Bruce hismelf as well. Any barking sounds in them, Bruce? :-)   By amazing coincidence, Bruce's choice for the opening hymn uses the "Aberystwyth" tune, composed by Joseph Parry, who left Wales on two occasions and spent time in Danville, the second time in fact as choir director for the congregation whose building we'll be in for the hymn = sing, with its Hook and Hastings tracker. Even though Parry compsoed it later in Wales, it could hardly be more specific or appropriate to the place = where we'll have our annual singing splurge.   The hymn sing will follow supper and a hering of a Felgemaker across = the street in St. Paul's United Methodist Church. After that the convention will return to Harrisburg early enough to have some relaxing time Saturday evening.   Thought you'd like to know.   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA  
(back) Subject: Perspective - was RE: funeral fees From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 15:15:49 -0600     Bud is right.   During the AIO convention in Bud-land last year, Lynn Dobson was = discussing the instrument they built for the new RC cathedral in Los Angeles. After alluding to some of details of the negotiations, he said the cost of the instrument was about the same as that of the wood moldings / railings in = the entire complex.   Weddings? hit 'em up for everything you can - they're the biggest hassle around unless your church has and enforces rules.     > >Subject: funeral fees >From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:04:35 -0800 > > snip > >Weddings are a different story ... I just raised my wedding fee to >$200-$500, depending on what's required. I totally agree that in >comparison to the cost of flowers, dresses, reception, band, etc., we've >been GIVING it away for FAR too long. > >      
(back) Subject: OHS Convention & Hymn Sing From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:22:00 -0500   Dear Karl,   In response to your "Thought you'd like to know," am I not correct in = saying that never in the history of OHS conventions have we ever had so much information so far in advance? Or have I been sleeping and missing it in previous years.   Do keep it coming, but skip the discussion of my winding system, please! = (It was last year that we were in the Windy City)   Cheers,   Malcolm   ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> To: "pipechat" <pipechat@pipechat.org>; "piporg-l" <piporg-l@listserv.albany.edu>; "organchat" <organchat@egroups.com> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: OHS convention hymn sing     > Dear Friendly Listers, > > Thought you'd like to know. > > Karl E. Moyer > Lancaster PA      
(back) Subject: RE: Organ Tours - Czech Republic From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:56:36 +0000 (GMT)   Hello,   That has to be the question of the year!   Stephen should know that there are no less than 630 churches in Prague.....repeat.....six hundred and thirty!!   There is a notable Klais in Prague, but I have forgotten which of the 630 it is in.......probably couldn't pronounce it anyway.   The absolute "gem" is the 3-manual, 44 stop Baroque organ in St.Nicholas, Prague, built by Toman Schwarze in 1746, with the most fabulous case in white, with a glorious front full of tin pipes......take a camera.   In organ circles, Prague is best known as the centre for some major organ composers (Wasn't Dvorak a product of the Prague organ school?)   No sooner had I bemoaned contemporary organ music than I recalled that Peter Eben (Prague) is one of the most respected of contemporary organ composers.....there is life after death after all.   I am working from memory, but I believe that Peter Eben was imprisoned for quite a while for his political views, back in the bad days of communism in Czechoslovakia.....now divided into the Czech Republic and Slovenia of course.   I'm sure that members of the list might enjoy a visit to the Dutch organ site, "Het Orgel", which has links to Prague with a spectacular photo of the main organ at St.Nicholas.   Also, try searching under "Prague Organ"....this will bring up various items, including CD sets etc.   The Klais site may well bring up details of their contribution to the Prague organ scene.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   PS: Always take Baroque/Classical style music to Eastern Europe......there are many old organs and many newer ones do not have swell boxes.     --- Stephen Barker wrote: > > > I'm taking 38 girls from the school where I teach on > a short concert > tour to Prague at the end of February and I was > wondering if anyone knew > anything about the organs in the city? As we are > doing concerts in two > of the churches (I can't remember which - stuff's at > school - not very > helpful I know!) I might get the chance to play > something - but as space > in the coach will be at a premium, what sort of > music should I take?     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Tours - Czech Republic From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:39:18 -0500   On 1/25/03 4:56 PM, "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:   > Czech Republic and Slovenia of course.   Or "Slovakia," to be a bit more precise. Isn't Slovenia the north end of what used to be Yugoslavia? And was the first breakaway a few years back from that fragile confederation (if that's the right word).   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Tours - Czech Republic(What Happened?) From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 17:56:18 -0500   Hi Ron, Maybe your mouse button has developed---(ba dum bum) SECOND TOUCH. :-)   Mike   RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > I don't know what happened, but I sent only one > copy of my reply, but two got recorded. A mystery! > > Ron > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Czech Republic From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 23:15:33 +0000 (GMT)   Hello,   Right!   I'm only a European....shame on me!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK in Europe     --- Alan Freed <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> wrote: > >   > Or "Slovakia," to be a bit more precise. Isn't > Slovenia the north end of > what used to be Yugoslavia?   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Czech organs From: "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:03:49 -0500       Ron Severin's posting on sweet sounding Czech organs prompted me to dig through my CD collection and pull out a Naxos CD of a very lovely instrument by Jehmlich of Dresden that stands sort of next door in the House of the Arts, Szekszard, Hungary. The recording is titled Organ Meditation and it is Naxos Cat. # 8.550791 . =   OHS offer it in their "cheap" C.D. section as NX791. For a picture of the organ and stop list go to http://www.jehmlich-orgelbau.de/englisch/organs/organ_1077.htm   This is a thoroughly satisfying recording of mainly not so well known transcriptions.   HD    
(back) Subject: Re: Funeral Fees From: "Peter Harrison" <peter@phmusic.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 00:25:20 -0000   At the village parish church where I hold the position of organist and choirmaster we have just set the wedding fees for 2003 at =A342.50 (that's forty two pounds, fifty pence for non UK configured email systems!) and funerals at =A336. Bury Parish Church, the principal church in that nearby modest sized Lancashire town (main claim to fame being as the home of = black puddings!), is a place I fairly often play for weekday funerals and has = had their funeral fee set at =A340 for a year or more.   At Holcombe, we try to keep fees in line with the reccomendations of the Archbishop's Council and I believe their figures are set in cosultation = with the Incorporated Society of Musicians and a few years ago the RSCM also = had a stake in that debate, though I'm not sure if they do still. The initial scheme had a complex classification system depending on the size and location of the parish, whether the musician was professional or amateur, the amount of music typically used in the service and the level of involvement of a choir. Having waded through that a few years years ago = and placed ourselves into the scale, we've since just looked for what approximate annual percentage change the Archbishops have proposed and revised our fees in line with that.   This has resulted in organist fees that are higher than some other local parishes, but to adapt Revlon's phrase, "I think I'm worth it!" More to = the point, the folk who are paying seem quite happy! We've deliberately kept = our organist fees for weddings and funerals properly maintained as they are = the only fees I draw for playing at Holcombe.     Peter   Peter M Harrison Director of Music, Emmanuel Church, Holcombe (North West UK) & P H Music : 48 Moorfield : Edgworth Bolton : Lancs : BL7 0DH : GB fax: +44 (0)1204 853445 : tel: +44 (0)1204 853310 web: www.phmusic.co.uk         | --- EchoGamba@aol.com wrote: > Hello, || | | I was receiving, in 2002, =A325 || for a funeral and =A335 for a || wedding, which I considered to be 'well paid'. This || has now been raised to || =A335 and =A345. Considering I have 60+ weddings booked || this year I am quite || pleased, but this seems to be a lot more than any || other organist receives in || my local area. (North East - UK) || || Can any other UK organist tell me if this sounds || about right?? ||      
(back) Subject: Re: Czech Republic From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:37:50 -0500   On 1/25/03 6:15 PM, "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:   > Hello, > Right! > I'm only a European....shame on me! > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK in Europe > Well, I've kind of felt guilty about it all. In 1990 I spent a week or so visiting Belgrade and then the Dalmatian Coast. We caught sights and = rumors of impending camouflaged "military" activity; our host asked the uniformed personnel, "What do you think? Are the Italians about to invade us?" Six months later the country fell apart (with, initially, as I recall, the withdrawal of Slovenia, which is much more "central European" than = "Slavic."   So the next year I did (then) Leningrad and Moscow--and ten days after we left, there was no more USSR.   So the next year I went to what was then "Czechoslovakia." This time it took a bit longer, and was quite peaceful, so far as I know, = but--bingo!--no more Czechoslovakia.   I've had several late-at-night visits from NATO and the United Nations, asking me to abstain from visits to ANY other countries.   Thus my sensitivity about Slovenia.   Alan, now a stay-at-home    
(back) Subject: Czech Republic Organ From: "Antoni Scott" <ascott@ptd.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:57:38 -0500   All: Some 40 years ago I heard an absolutely gorgeous organ in St. Jakob's , Prague, Czechoslovakia. I wrote to the organist (Jiri Ropek) and he kindly responded with a description of the complete organ. It was a brilliant and full organ. It has been updated and enlarged since its original 1700's design but is still within the Czech tradition. Jiri Ropek played French masterpieces plus a Czech choral on the Supraphon label (circa 1964). I transcribed this LP to CD some years ago but have been looking for a = better tape -to -CD transcription.   Antoni Scott